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Christine

Exactly! But I think the hormone levels at 8, 12 and 6 are pretty interesting!

Christine

Maybe this can be taken with a grain of salt, but:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/katies-take ... .html?vp=1

...we can overcome the 3:00 snack, right?

Christine

Yes, wosnes, that I do! ...have a bad case of diet-head. Although I am seriously trying to work through that. Which leads me to your comment oolala, that is sort of what I'd tried to do last night with the chicken fettucine alfredo. I took about 2/3 as much as I would have before, and added a bunch ...

Christine

Well, the chicken tenders were four big pieces, so... anyway, yeah, I know, that's what was happening to me at first with No S. I was eating "diet-size" three meals, and was hungry all the time! Yep, as far as Medifast, like I said I was shocked to see how often I'd been eating Medifast for the past...

Christine

That's 8 weeks of more chances to let N days help moderate your appetite. ... I hope you can find a way to magnify your successes. You stuck to one plate and didn't cheat when you really wanted to. This is progress! Yes, and I intend to stick to No S at least for the 8 weeks. Actually I usually don...

Christine

Ahh - ha, you ladies are being so nice. I wish I could reciprocate... I'm so grateful for everything you're saying. Ya know, I sometimes think that I'm just in the middle of this "last chance on the stairway" before I just give up. I do need to get through this initial panic with signing up for this...

Christine

I'm still 100%. Even with joining the fitness program, I'm still doing No S.

Christine

Ha, I never thought of the trainer/conflict of interest point of view! Well, I've been busy the last few days, including a couple of days of mandated exercise from the PN program, when all I really rather would have done was come home from work, have a couple beers, and veg out. I don't know why I'm...

Christine

Yes, that's a big part of why I signed up, the exercise part. LOL, I probably do need someone else to tell me to actually eat it... I'm such a stubborn person. I fall back into my old bad habits so easily, it's not even funny. In fact it's pretty shameful. I really gotta wonder if I do want to fix m...

Christine

Yes, that's why I thought I could try this fitness program and fit it into No S. I just read yesterday, a post from a No S-er whose trainer wanted her to eat six meals per day, and she refused. Well, I can do that too. I just need some extra motivation, and, shall we say, paid-for accountability; i....

Christine

Hey y'all, thanks for the encouragement. I truly do believe in No S, really. I am tired of pouring myself into my pants. Having been a career yo-yo-er, when I lost all the weight "for once and for all", five years ago, I vowed that I would NEVER buy a bigger size again to accommodate my lack of disc...

Christine

Yeah, that fitness plan that my daughter is so successful at... I signed up for it. It was a battle with myself, down to the last minute (deadline being Tuesday). So my plan is this. I still do need the framework to keep me accountable for exercise and food choices. Those two things are what my down...

Christine

Well said, oolala!!! And you *do* give great advice and encouragement for all of us, thank you!!!

Christine

LOL!!! Well, somebody's gotta say it.

Yep, that's my bad time of day too. Luckily I can get out of work about 3 every day (so far) so I'm busy with trying to get home, etc. and so it's not a period where I just sit there and imagine how hungry I am.

Christine

Yes, exactly. My definition of what's historically worked, is whatever people were eating when they were healthier, even if it's animal fats or whatever. I keep trying to remember how my grandmother ate, and even my mom; both of them lived until well into their 90s. As far as veg oil goes, I only us...

Christine

wosnes wrote:What you do to lose the weight is what you do to maintain the weight loss.

Yes, that's it, thanks! I sure did mangle that one, haha!

Christine

jw wrote:Going out to dinner tonight -- glad it's a day when I won't have to second-guess myself!

Ahh, brilliant. Hope you really enjoyed it!

Christine

Yes, you've gotta go with what has historically "worked", definitely. This plan also wants you do make different smoothies, ones that you can drink *while* you're working out, ones that you drink after you've worked out, etc. Well -- that might be OK for my 35-year-old daughter, but geez-o-pete, I'm...

Christine

Haha I like that quote! Well, actually I do love veggies, it's just that I have a hard time with salad. Sometimes I'm in the mood for it but I get burnt out with it quickly. Now sautÃ©ed vegs, yum!!!!!

Christine

Being at this a little over a month, it's hardly worth saying you "still" haven't gotten the healthy food thing down. You're just getting going! Having gotten to the point at which you don't feel like cheating is already terrific progress. Isn't it fun Haha, you're right! I'm definitely still a beg...

Christine

Hi sugarjunkie, welcome, sounds like you're doing well so far! Someone said in another thread recently, it's the only diet where the diet is also the maintenance. (well, something like that) It's brilliant!

Christine

Halfway through July and I'm 100% compliant so far. Even so, I gained a couple pounds last week

but I'm keepin' on.

Christine

Wow, oolala, I'm glad you didn't offer to split a salad with me! I would've said, no thanks, I just had one last month!

Don't worry, I'll get there eventually!

Christine

vmsurbat, I am reading through many old posts on the forum, including the stickies -- very inspiring. Thank you for your encouragement! wosnes, that's exactly what appeals to me -- the "diet" is also the maintenance. I read that 95% of conventional dieters regain all the weight they lose, and I don...

Christine

jos22 yes yes to IF regulating appetite. I've found that too. I tried NoS a year ago (before IF) but just kept stumbling over appetite control which kept leading me to snack. After doing IF for a few months, I found my appetite had regulated (something to do with the hormones insulin, leptin and gh...

Christine

Yes, I do like walking by myself, actually. I like to sprint on and off during the walk; it's exhilarating! Also I do belong to a gym, which I was going to practically every day in April and May. However that's when I went on "vacation", and never got back to it yet. Now that I have just started a n...

Christine

LOL, you're right about the scale obsession! I do walk with my friend, but unfortunately it's only a couple times a week (work schedules being what they are). I'm afraid that I can't do much more than that (yet!).

Christine

I wasn't trying to do IF in my 21-day habit-building phase, and I'm not sure if I will do it on a regular basis now, but the few times I've ended up doing it, I'm surprised because it's not that hard! You get waves of hunger, but they go away. I'm not gonna starve to death, that's for sure. I actual...

Christine

Hm, maybe it's good to do it that way if it hearkens back to the "caveman" eating habits which they're touting these days. Like, your body is used to not getting food at regularly scheduled times?

Christine

wosnes wrote:So I tried it -- half wine, half ginger ale. Not only was it very refreshing and not too sweet, it didn't bother me.

Oh wow, that sounds good!

...and Yes!!! A Shandy was great when I was with my Brit friends in Belgium!!!

Christine

leafy_greens wrote:Looks good (and easy.) I'll try it.

Me too! Yummy!

Christine

Alas, in my case it's not that I think I "shouldn't" feel hungry or it's not OK to feel hungry; it's just that it feels icky and I simply haven't wanted to feel that way! However, lately I am living with hunger a lot of the day, and I don't like it, but I am sticking it out. I'm still happy with mys...

Christine

Have any of you heard of Dr. Gourmet? He is an MD and a chef. He has a website, book, with a diet plan that is called "Just Tell Me What to Eat" which gives you a calorie level, and a menu of three (count 'em, 3) meals per day. So you cook his recipes, divide them into, say, two portions for your sp...

Christine

After reading so much about the French diet, it makes a lot more sense to eat on this time schedule (and more socially friendly) than on the schedule my psychiatrist recommended (wake at 4:30 am, in bed by 8pm to prevent night time grazing.) I can't imagine telling people I can't come over because ...

Christine

Obesity, of itself, being called a disease just sounds like another politically correct term. To overcome obesity/overweightness sure feels like will power to me. Every day except an S day. And even then I'm hoping to exercise a little of that in the near future on S days. I'd love it to come natur...

Christine

Here's a timely article... What do you all think?

http://ideas.time.com/2013/06/26/the-be ... nsibility/

Christine

Yes, Medifast has a transition plan, having you slowly wean yourself off of their meals, and its length depends upon how much weight you have lost. But somehow I could never do that; at the point I'd felt like I was done, I.Was.Done. However, I did my own transition to real food, just not a lot of i...

Christine

It matters whether they would have contributed to pleasure, satiety, and a later feeling of vitality. And keep the plan seeming fair and reasonable. ... You will find the balance between ease of meal "planning" and what will truly please you in the long run. Maybe food is less important to you than...

Christine

If you go out for dinner it's probably going to be later since most restaurants don't open for dinner until 8. Yes! I used to live in Belgium and not only do they have dinner late, they take a long time doing it. Boy was it nice! It really highlighted the idea that eating should be social and enjoy...

Christine

The reason I said something about the soup not being enough for me was that I think the original poster had said something previously about feeling very hungry pretty quickly after meals during the day. I wanted that person to know that to start at least, it's okay to eat enough to avoid that. Gett...

Christine

Thanks very much! I've just spent 1 1/2 hours reading these articles and following interesting links from them. And, the Ayurveda has always been fascinating to me; has anyone here tried what Dr Douillard recommends (3-Hour Diet)? Within the framework of No S of course! Just saw oolala53's link to t...

Christine

Well, the soup I had was Progressive Chicken Pot Pie style soup. It was pretty substantial. I'm finding that I need enough protein (oolala, I think the "palm of my hand analogy" is good, I try to use it myself) otherwise I'll be ready to eat my shoes by the time dinnertime rolls around. Also that ea...

Christine

Very interesting thread and insights from all. I've read about the TV documentary and also watched videos from it. I'm intrigued also; as I've said elsewhere I have sort of done 16:8 on S days without trying to. Normally my husband doesn't eat until dinner, and I've found myself just going along wit...

Christine

Interesting article, of course; it makes sense. I do have a problem with this, though: " [Elisa] Ziedâ€™s rule: Eat when youâ€™re hungry, stop when youâ€™re satisfied, and plan ahead." This person apparently has not had any eating issues. Are my eyes open? I'm hungry. Am I leaning back on the couch,...

Christine

@wosnes, hope you're feeling better today! Say, how did you come up with yogurt and heavy cream? Sounds delicious! Do you just mix it half and half? @oolala53, Yes, I agree, I can divert myself away from virtual hunger if I really keep paying attention. Physical hunger, well, I have a little harder ...

Christine

Hi all, So even though I didn't publicly commit, I started No S on 5th of June. I have now reached my 21st day of habit-building, 100% on track. I am positive the rest of the day will be a green day. Some of the N days were not, food-quality wise, the best, but they definitely have all been "technic...

Christine

Because it's rarely or never a desire for raw veggies... I don't think I've ever been hungry enough to want raw veggies. I thought at one time of trying to spread the word funger, but it turns out it has a pornographic meaning, at least according to one online urban dictionary. What a waste. :lol: ...

Christine

@oolala53: thank you! Yes, I want to get to that point where lots of folks are here: getting my eating behavior in order and have the bonus of weight loss--even though I don't always sound like that's what I want. @finallyfull: Thanks for your comments! I have a "very" short time to scarf down break...

Christine

I read recently that both being very attuned and present for your meals and also recalling what you ate later caused test subjects to eat less at the next meal. When hungry, I try to use that tidbit. It works. Also, when I start to feel really hungry an hour or so before a meal, six months in, I ho...

Christine

Good Monday to y'all, hope everyone had a good weekend. You know, what keeps me on track more than everything else is -- how unbelievably commonsense this No S thing is, and I'm slowly realizing the unbelievability (?) of how people have forgotten this. @wosnes & @oolala53, I hope you ladies will fe...

Christine

Hi LA_Loser, What a fantastic, inspiring outcome to all of your sad & scary events. The best to you and your loving husband, thanks for sharing all of this!

Christine

That said, 3.5 glasses is a lot of wine, more than you should be having. You might want to try glass ceiling, where you limit yourself to 2 drinks a day. Yes, it is more than I should have, so Glass Ceiling is what I was thinking. I showed my husband the web page about Glass Ceiling, who's an avowe...

Christine

Helenaz, Good luck to you. A couple months later, but I hope you are doing well! I can echo your frustrations, totally. And I'm about the same age range. Reading this just reminded me of a couple of things: once my mother told me, than when I was about a year old, I kept crying and crying. She took ...

Christine

@wosnes: What's that old song, "one bourbon, one whiskey, one beer" -- haha! Interesting and good that it worked for you. @Nicest: Interesting article! But they don't have Twinkies anymore so I can't go on that diet!!! :lol: Last evening I went up to the grocery store and got stuff from the deli for...

Christine

I got a kick out of Hagen Dazs "Take Five" ice cream when it was available. Five ingredients in every flavor. The same flavors in their "regular" ice cream? The same five ingredients in the same order. I think the biggest difference between the two ice creams was the packaging. As I recall not even...

Christine

Let me clarify: I'm not necessarily speaking about breakfast foods being promoted, but the meal as the most important meal of the day. If the meal is being promoted, then it follows that the foods people would eat at that meal would be promoted. Point is, when you see diet advice, you have to ask y...

Christine

Yes, I agree; like the phrase "breakfast food" exists because lots of folks don't eat or don't want to eat breakfast. So the companies can use this to sell less-than-healthy foods so people are lured into eating them when they're marketed as "breakfast food". As in, You'll want to eat breakfast if y...

Christine

Ha, yes, exactly! I've been paying attention to snack commercials lately, and the recurring theme is, you gotta have this RIGHT NOW! Sadly I haven't even realized this before.

Christine

I experienced something similar of discovering No S, leaving, meandering in diet-land, then realizing I have to come back to No S. I think this is normal. No S is not easy, so I continued to look around for another "miracle" plan that was easier, perhaps one where I could eat chocolate all day yet ...

Christine

Nicest, thanks for the reassurance! I just have been hungry so much during the past six years trying to maintain the weight loss, I'm just tired of it. I knew I read somewhere either here or in the book that at first you would be more hungry and then it would lessen after a while. Thanks for the rem...

Christine

Dee, great to hear that you did well yesterday! Keep on keepin' on (and yes, gotta take my own advice) and we can both do this.

Christine

Haha, that's OK. Pride's one of the "deadlies" which I have an abundance of! This whole way of thinking is really simple, but not easy. Common sense is like that! However, one of the reasons I really have to think about weight loss (besides just being vain) is -- I'm a breast cancer survivor, coming...

Christine

Yes, both of you have brought up some really valid points. I stand chastised ... :oops: But --you give me some good stuff to think about. Yep, I do have lots of issues that seem to manifest themselves in the weight. Not going to go into it here -- but nevertheless I thank you for looking at this mor...

Christine

Just chiming in to say that LaurenExists, you have a lot of the same concerns that I do, after having only done this for about two weeks. Good on you for sticking it out for 10 weeks so far! Thanks to all the folks who replied, it's helping me, and hopefully lots of other people, as well!

Christine

Dee2013, I'm in the same spot as you. Older and taller, but still feeling sooo tired of being like this and tired of yo-yo-ing and tired of obsessing. But really hating myself for lack of discipline. I hope you're not doing that! Please, if you're going to do this, keep posting here with your status...

Christine

Wow, I need to read that whole article, thanks for bringing it up. That's kind of like how I feel. And I feel just as awful at 20 lbs. overweight as I did 65 lbs. overweight. Whew, it's kind of scary to think about!

Christine

For between meal hunger you could try adjusting your meals to make them more satisfying, e.g. add good fats like avocado, nuts, olive oil. Also, a milky tea or coffee can tide you over for another hour or so. I'm going to suggest that you add some fat to your meals. Fat aids substantially in satiet...

Christine

Well -- this time I had not been starving myself within the past several months, and was gaining gradually and found myself 20 lbs. up from the weight I'd maintained for the past few years (in the wrong way, I might add). However, yep, I'm sure my body is well used to thinking I'm starving it. You'r...

Christine

Hi, Thanks to you both for your words of encouragement, I really appreciate it! So after 10 days of complying 100%, I weighed in yesterday and found that I actually gained about 1 1/2 lbs. Gosh, I really didn't need to see that. I really have not been loading up my plates, either, like folks say mig...

Christine

Hey y'all, this is just a bunch of rambling stuff that a week of No S has popped into my consciousness. I don't care if you don't read it, I've just gotta understand it by typing it. I've read several posts here, and one of them mentioned a "Zen" thing about looking at a mountain, then looking at it...

Christine

Hi FarmerHal, nice to meet you. I feel for you. I was a military wife (ex-husband) and I got that permasnacking thing down pat -- well, even before he joined the Air Force. I give you credit for homeschooling your kids though!!! I've just started this No S thing last week, and so far so good. Good l...

Christine

wosnes: If I just have a bowl of oatmeal (or anything else), I just have the bowl. If I'm having oatmeal, toast and fruit, the bowl goes on a plate along with the toast and fruit.

OK. I was wondering about a soup & sandwich lunch; guess that would be the same?

Christine

I've found something interesting that's happening to me, already. I started No S on Wednesday the 5th, and I'm finding, after having one S weekend under my (large) belt so far, that already the desire to eat all kinds of crap all weekend doesn't seem so desirable. In fact, even on Saturday when we w...

Christine

janiean1, Hi, you sound just like me! We had "normal" food, Mom would bake, and neither she nor I were overweight (but she smoked). Even when I used to sew my clothes in the basement and run back and forth to the broom closet in the stair landing and grab candy to snack on! I lost 65 lbs. with Medif...

Christine

Thank you very much! You and I seem to be about the same size & age. I too am 5'6" and am 62 years old (OMG, can't believe I'm saying that!!! Where DO the years go?). And it looks like you have been very successful over the past few years. Well, wish me luck! I'm in this for the rest of the month an...

Christine

Thanks for this brilliant observation. I've thought about No S for a long time and have finally decided to take the plunge. So this was the perfect time for me to read this. I used Medifast to get the weight off in the first place, but was shocked to actually see how often I've ordered it in the pas...

Christine

Hi, I've started No S yesterday after a very long time dithering around with "what diet to go on!" I lost 65 lbs. years ago with Medifast, but have had a very stressful year, and gained 20 lbs. back. Anyway I'm gonna try this for the rest of June, to set my habit. I'm an IT professional also, and th...

Christine

I have a hard time walking with her, too. I slow down for her; she never makes an attempt to speed up for me. I only walk with her because it's nice to be outside when we talk and we do like looking at landscaping and architecture. I know what you mean about that A/C, too. I run very hot and like t...

Christine

Man, am I glad to read that. However, I don't get in the exercise that you do. However, I'm all for getting rid of my giant dish set and get new dishware with s-m-a-l-l plates for the dinner plates. I don't trust myself to use the salad plates when the giant dinner plates are sitting there!

Christine

Hi wosnes, great article, thank you! I agree that people need to just move. I love the idea of having a lifestyle that keeps me moving naturally, and *really* don't like that I have to take time out of my day to specifically, artificially, move just to stay healthy. I actually think about this a lot...

Christine

Well -- the only place I can do it normally is in the "den" in the basement which is taken up by the giant box holding the bathroom countertop, amidst piles of tools, insulation, table saw, wood, etc. So before the bathroom fiasco, I had plenty of room to do it there. Outside the back door-- technic...

Christine

OOlala, thank you! You are right. I am going absolutely CRAZY (or was) trying to do Medifast while working at a frustrating job, coming home to a mess, contractors who haven't shown up half the time, work that has to be done over again, and on and on... And this is our master bathroom that we're tal...

Christine

Hey y'all, I started this a couple months ago and somehow I dropped out fairly quickly. I know where I have messed up, and having gotten the book I'm reading more insights that are soooo true! --happy about that, and I even got an 8-lb. sledge hammer and was starting to do Shovelglove! Then all kind...

Christine

I'm in. Nothing special happening this month, so I should be able to do "plain vanilla" all month! The one thing that I have to learn is how to eat more per meal so I'm not STARVING too soon before my next meal. Also, the literal "one-plate" rule is confusing. What if I eat soup, is soup the only th...

Christine

Hi, Yep, you're right oolala53, it is vanity weight, I'll admit. It's just that I'd lost the weight and have all my clothes a certain size, and don't want to buy the next size up. That's a powerful motivator for me. That's always what happened before, I'd start to gain the weight back, get bigger cl...

Christine

Ahhhhh!!! I love this!!!!

Christine

Hey Sarah, how're you doing today? I had a questionable weekend of S-days but doing well yesterday and today. Hungry as anything but I looooove the structure that takes away my *bad* choices and forces me to do the right thing. Dale, I saw that programme too and it was very enlightening. I have alwa...

Christine

Ah, thanks Oolala42 & lbb(Liz) -- your last two posts really are helping me.

Christine

Hi, That's a big thing I have to learn. Make it my own, and there's no messing up because there's no diet. It is eating, plain and simple. I liked what I read about someone who talked about Zen Buddhism and looking at a mountain in a different way once they had been up the mountain etc. etc. etc. (c...

Christine

Hi all, Well I did have a couple of no-kiddin' S-days this weekend; it pretty much felt like what I said earlier... as in, no holds barred on the weekends which has been undoing whatever progress I'd gained during the week. But I'm doing OK, yesterday and today so far, and Oolala53, you're right abo...

Christine

Hi Sarahkay, I'm a newbie, hardly qualified to give you a great answer, but I just had to say that I'm scared too. I have a fear of being hungry, have a very distorted body image, and it seems that the book that you read (Fed Up) just seems like the usual doctor's advice and completely impossible fo...

Christine

Hi Finally, Yep, I have an iron skillet which I use all the time, but never thought to use it for exercise! Maybe I'll try that. Haven't tried the sledgehammer yet, so I don't know if I like it or not (yet)!

Christine

Hi, During my brief introduction to No S and Shovelglove and everything all at once, I haven't seen any females posting here during a quick browse. Anybody out there? I thought I'd start out with an 8-pounder, does that sound right? I'd just like to know what to expect because I think this sounds pr...

Christine

'Morning y'all, thank you so much for the warm welcome and encouragement :D Well I made it through my first day (yesterday). I ate a small chicken breast, lots of peas, some brown rice, and a bit of gravy for dinner last night. It was really tasty but I was still hungry afterward and somewhat scared...

Christine

Howdy! This is my first day of No S and I actually got the link from a forum on a thinspo website (yep, although I'm older than these skinny waifs, the mindset hasn't resolved yet after all these years). No S intrigued me immediately. It's unbelievably the exact thing I need to get back to a normal ...

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