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carolejo

I do just what Deb describes. I let both hands take the weight, but I swap hands halfway through my 'set' so that both hands get a turn on the top. I actually find in practise that the top hand takes a slightly greater strain than the bottom hand, but the difference is minimal and as I'm swapping ro...

carolejo

Hello again, Josie,

Glad you found the main board. As I said before, it sounds like you're doing really well, I'm glad it's working out for you too.

'See' you later.
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carolejo

I did have a single gummy computer-mouse sweet that somebody else gave me in the office, but then I managed to walk past the pizza slice stall on my way home just as they were putting a new pizza out! Yeah, it was very far from an ideal day, but you're right that I didn't turn it into a binge, Deb. ...

carolejo

Hey Silent! This is MAGIC news!!! I'm so so happy for you :D I hope you continue to tell us how you're doing, now that you're well on the way to building your stable new eating habits. Oh, and I'm glad you're giving SG a shot too. I think this is one of the very best things you can do for yourself, ...

carolejo

Today I had a piece of cake in the office. The Netherlands was the best performing business unit last year, so they celebrated. I could have said NO, but didn't. :? Damage limitatation time though. My lunch was pretty small after the cake and I'm having a full roast chicken dinner tonight cos my Mum...

carolejo

Hey Josie! I'm really glad to hear it's going so well for you. Great news. :D I think you'd get more people looking at and replying to your postings though if you put them in proper forum, rather than just in the Test Messages section. :) Look at the top of your screen. Under Everyday systems it say...

carolejo

Not a bad day today, considering. My Mummy is here, so it's a little harder in some ways, cos she's *definately* a grazer! :lol: Today I did only have 3 meals, but I did have an apple turnover with my lunch. It probably would've fitted on the plate with my toast and pate, but it would have definatel...

carolejo

I guess you found one then!

Most people make the avatar themselves, by scaling down a photo or other picture using photoshop or somesuch.

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carolejo

never mind. At least you're still here and still having a go, that's the important bit.

Good luck getting back on track on Monday.
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carolejo

Friday was.... NoS :D MILA: :D Yay for me! I didn't cave in to the calling of that yummy sticky apple syrup. Deb was right that a little with breakfast was all I needed to prevent my innner five-year-old from whinging about being "hard done by" :lol: (although she didn't put it quite that way, of co...

carolejo

On Lane's Checkin, Freakwitch wrote: In terms of weighing, I was on No-S for nearly half a year before I started weighing myself. The weighing isn't the important thing, the doing is. Don't ever forget that. As far as losing weight as fast as me, that will be hard for most people in terms of pounds....

carolejo

That's a cool quote, Kimmi!

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carolejo

Wow. You're nearly there for your habit-building 21 days already!

This is great stuff. You sir, are doing very well indeed.

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carolejo

Its the measurements that are the important bits! That and how you feel within yourself. The scale is so arbitrary, so contrary, so inaccurate and your weight will be variable during a single day by anything up to 4 pounds anyway, so it's essentially meaningless unless you leave a good long time bet...

carolejo

Well, my breakfast may well have been yummy-tasting, but there was definately insufficient protein in it to keep me going. My stomach is growling already and it's not even half past 11. Hungry is good though. It means that my body is having to look elsewhere for fuel :twisted: Hopefully it's looking...

carolejo

I just had a totally yummy breakfast, which made me think of Peetie too :lol: I had a nice big bowl of natural yoghurt, with a handful of chopped up dried prunes and a teaspoonful of apple syrup in it. I made a deal with myself, that I could have a little of that apple syrup with my breakfast, but i...

carolejo

let me guess, Kevin...

...she's especially 'aware' when it comes to things you should have done but haven't?

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carolejo

your sectionmate is officially EVIL.

Good on you for still resisting though.
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carolejo

I know what you mean about separating the book from the film. That never bugs me either, although it seems to drive most people crazy. I keep telling people "but it's better that they're different! Do you really want exactly the same story told twice..?" Similarly, I always wondered how people could...

carolejo

Welcome back, Tricia.

Don't worry, you'll be back where you want to be in no time.

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carolejo

It's a great kind of repetitive! We TOTALLY forgive you

Great stuff, Lane!

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carolejo

Hey Sandy!

that's fantastic! Pretty much bang on the healthiest speed at which to sustainably lose weight too, one pound per week.

Good on you for getting straight back to it after thanksgiving. You're doing really well.

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carolejo

Sorry to hear that you've been finding it tough. The great thing here though is that you can try again... and again... and again... You're not even starting over each time cos the bad days don't outdo the good ones. If writing down everything you eat feels too much like food journaling, try just 'Su...

carolejo

Hi Dru, Thanks for your reply. Steve and I are actually staying here for Christmas and New year - the three of us (Steve, me and Lyra-the-wondercat) are going to have a quiet christmas together in our new place. My parents we planning on coming over, but since my Nan got so sick they'll be spending ...

carolejo

I have attention surplus disorder, I think.

Amen to that!! I'm gonna borrow that particular phrase if you don't mind, Reinhard. What an excellent way of putting it.

You crack me up. It's brilliant.
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carolejo

fortunately the only varicose veins I have are on the tops of my feet. I won't be massaging that part of me with a sledgehammer anytime soon! :lol: I expect I'll get a lot more of them though. My mother had a lot before they were surgically removed, and both my grandmothers had / have lots too. I'll...

carolejo

Hi Angela,

how was that first advent treat then...? Bet it was good.

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carolejo

cool idea Deb!

I'm gonna try this out too.
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carolejo

Hi Deb, Thanks for writing back. For the moment I've put the jar at the furthest point away in the back of the cupboard. I think I might just be allowed to have a little on a slice of toast with breakfast tomorrow, but the problem at the moment is that I'm DEFINATLEY snacking on it directly out of t...

carolejo

Hi folks, did my SG today :D but not yesterday. It really doesn't happen if I go into the office, despite my best efforts. :roll: Broke NoS this morning by eating another spoonful of that apple syrup stuff. Man, I'm gonna need to lock that stuff up in a strong box and give the key away for safekeepi...

carolejo

Oh dear!

Nevermind. Welcome back. Restart, reboot, redo, retry. It's the human curse.

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carolejo

W000t! How about that for WILLPOWER!

Lane, you are my hero

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carolejo

Hi Sonrisa,

Hope your first day went well. Welcome to NoS. It does get easier doing this. The hard stuff really is all up front.

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carolejo

Hey Deb,

Have a great time in Florida with your family!
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carolejo

Hi Kimmi, Don't worry too much. As long as you start out each day and try to do your best, that's all anyone can ask of you. Sometimes it's really hard for no apparent reason. Sometimes it's really hard and it's obvious why and sometimes it's almost no effort at all. That's just the way life is. In ...

carolejo

I don't suppose you could get non-edible goodies to put in it? Do you collect thimbles or something else similar (lame, I know! I'm clutching at straws here *grin*) An IOU in each pocket might be nice though. Then you could use it but still within the rules proper and know that your treats are waiti...

carolejo

Hi Josie,

perhaps you could set up a daily checkin and let us know how you're doing? Up to you, of course! I find it really helpful and interesting to look back and see how much has changed, but some other people don't find it as useful.

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carolejo

To save lots of to-ing and fro-ing, here's what I put on Angela's checkin: I dunno. I know officially the rules would say "leave them til the weekend", but it's kind of a special thing. Personally, if I had an edible advent calendar I'd make an exception for the one little sweet or chocolate each da...

carolejo

probably a good thing. Not everyone reads the checkins and it's the sort of general interest question that fits.

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carolejo

in the office today so surfing is somewhat curtailed, which is good. Last night I broke the NoS rules - in the name of trying something new. It was definately funny stuff though, cos I could have waited til the weekend really. :? We got a pail of Dutch apple syrup. This is made from apple juice and ...

carolejo

I dunno. I know officially the rules would say "leave them til the weekend", but it's kind of a special thing. Personally, if I had an edible advent calendar I'd make an exception for the one little sweet or chocolate each day from it. Fortunately I'm spared this dilemma because my calendar is the k...

carolejo

hear hear! I second Freakwitch's comments.

Lane, you rock. You're really doing great!

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carolejo

Hi Niruma, welcome to NoS! I hope it works out well for you, like it has for me so far. I'm a little worried though, in case you're setting yourself up to fail by starting with an unrealistic goal. I agree with kevin's comments that 8 pounds in a month is perhaps a little bit quicker than ideal... S...

carolejo

Oh, on Celery sticks and snatching them - it's true that Celery is a negative calorie foodstuff. by that I mean it actually takes more energy to process it through the digestive system than you get from eating it. That said, the biggest part of NoS is psychological and I think it's pretty important ...

carolejo

Hi Josie,

welcome to NoS.
try changing your time zone in your profile. Then it will show the right time for you whenever you're logged in. Of course, if you're not logged in it will always show the standard time.

Hope that helps.
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carolejo

Yesterday NoS :D , MILA :D Luddite :? I think I'm not ready for this luddite goal. I only managed to stick to it once in the whole time I've been trying. I'm gonna buy a kitchen timer when I go into town next weekend, and every time I switch the internet on, set it for 14 minutes so I can only surf ...

carolejo

Hey, I can teach you intercontinental macrame if you like, but the interstellar kind is a bit beyond me at present! :lol: Sounds like you're getting things sorted again, anyhow. Good on you for realising and pulling back. I go through phases of 'borderline Essing without really thinking about it' to...

carolejo

Hiya Deb, It's OK. I'd worked out it wasn't the pharma-style mega-dosage stuff. But meds is meds, right? Even if it's just a vitamin C tablet, it's meds to me :twisted: Have a great day (it sure sounds like there's some fun stuff lined up in there too!) If you'd like, I can ask my little sister if s...

carolejo

you ROCK!

Nice one

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carolejo

Hi Deb,

sorry to hear that the meds didn't work out. I hope you feel more balanced soon.

love, C.

carolejo

Hi Ingrid,

Hang in there! There will be good days and bad, easy days and hard ones. There's not even always a logical pattern.

Hope your next few weeks go well. You're doing fine and well done for picking yourself back up and restarting.

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carolejo

Hi everyone, This is just a short post to say that I've finally gotten to the point where this is mostly habit now. It's taken me a bit longer than some, and I'm definately not a 'perfect score', but funny stuff is rare and correct NoS and regular Shovelglove habits are the norm these days. I shall ...

carolejo

I made it out of the house yesterday, and all the way to Wageningen for the hash meet. I went running and then did a lot of drinking. Mixed in was a lot of talking (which I'm much better at than running :lol: ) so on balance it made for a very enjoyable and worthwhile afternoon. S came with me, but ...

carolejo

This morning I'm going to sit and plan my meals for the week while I wait for the supermarket to open. Fruit will probably be the first thing I buy *chuckles out loud* I know what you mean about that! Well done, anyhow. It doesn't sound too bad really. Just think, there are people who deliberately ...

carolejo

Hi folks, yeah, I've spent a total of 15 weeks in the states at varous times, including some time in the southern part of the east coast (Carolinas, Georgia, Florida) so I've eaten a few 'biscuits' in my time too :P Today the weather is truly manky. I'm trying to work up the enthusiasm to leave the ...

carolejo

Oh, and a 'biscuit' to us brits is like a cookie to you :lol: I was just reading Freakwitch's log and I realised my explanation of what a stroopwaffel is might not make much sense to you!!!! The kind of biscuit I think Freakwitch is referring to is closer to what we would call a savoury scone - alth...

carolejo

Stroopwaffels are a kind of thin waffle biscuit with a syrup layer embedded in the middle. They're almost like a national dish in themselves over here. they get served with coffee and are also good topped with icecream. Very very sweet though. I used to be the queen of sweet things, but these days I...

carolejo

Oh, and apart from the very first day, I've broken my 'no surfing during work hours' rule every single day!

I never thought it would be harder than giving up all that sugary junk, but it sure is!!!!

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carolejo

the Boy and I took today as an S day, cos we both took the day off work (nothing to do with Thanksgiving or anything - we're both Brits) Initially, we were going to go out in town and just chill out, but the weather was spectacularly bad. We've had about 6 hours of thunderstorm, with driving rain an...

carolejo

oops. Hope I didn't jinx you!

Nevermind. Whereabouts are you with that 5-10cm of snow?

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carolejo

....and it's a lot more fun than jogging or running are, too

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carolejo

Hi Mo,

That's good to hear. Glad it's working well.

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carolejo

Gammon is a ham joint. Or can also appear as a ham steak. Eaten hot, usually with pineapple, sometimes also eaten with eggs, as "eggs and ham" (Dr Seuss style!)

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carolejo

wow! Glad to hear it's going so well for you. Great work!
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carolejo

Workday luddite so far has only a 33% success rate.
That's one day out of the 3 I've been going so far!

Went again to the Aerobics class last night. S's boss didn't show up, but there were lots of nice Dutch people there and I was the only foreigner, which was nice.

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carolejo

Natural fruit sugars - not refined in any way.... NOT a sweet.
You still can't snack on it, but if you want a slice with lunch, I reckon you can go for it.

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carolejo

Hiya Judy, Sorry, no wise words here, just the ramblings of another confused soul! I aim for the optimal, absolutely best, healthiest, live-forever diet I always wondered about that 'live forever' diet too. Suppose you actually got it right and lived 'forever'.... It's a big 'suppose', cos medical e...

carolejo

I broke the no surfing rule, and it's only day 2!!

This is *HARD*. It's really really hard.

NoS and MILA are all OK though. And I heard back from the Yoga person. I just need to turn up on a Wednesday evening and have a go. If I decide its for me, then I can sign up.

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carolejo

Good for you. Sounds like you're doing really well.

Not having control over what and when you eat can be a real pain, but at least it doesn't mean that its automatically not 'noS friendly'. Afterall, you've not got to ask everyone to cook special foods for you!

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carolejo

HA! I survived my first day of 'workday luddite'! Boy, that was HARD! That was almost as hard as not eating those Twix bars was at the very start of NoS. I'm really glad that it's past 5pm and I can surf again. Yay! MILA :D NoS (so far) :D Luddite :D I also UR'd at lunchtime over to the social centr...

carolejo

Don't forget that Sick Days also start with an S.

Do what you have to do to get better quickly. Hope you're all fixed up in no time.

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carolejo

Morning everyone. I think it's time I applied some Everyday Systems thinking to another area of my life and scaled back the time I'm spending on the web... Not that I don't LOVE talking and posting to you all, (Oh my, that's most of the problem! Between this board and LiveJournal I can happily squan...

carolejo

Hello SandySue!

Did you take the weekend as N days cos you were just starting?

Looking good, anyhow. Welcome to NoS.
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carolejo

Oh well. As you say, the 'old' you would've eaten the tootsie rolls, then gone on a cereal-killing spree to boot. Good on you for resisting that pesky cereal.

Have a good Sunday Deb,
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carolejo

Well, I had some nice Sweeties this afternoon, but I couldn't finish the whole packet. I don't think I'll finish the whole lot tomorrow either, but I don't want to throw them out! I'm gonna put them in a sealed box at the back of my uppermost kitchen cupboard. Out of sight and (hopefully) out of min...

carolejo

Looking good!
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carolejo

That's really great to hear!

Truly S-worthy.
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carolejo

Oh yeah! It's addictive. So addictive. I actually *miss* doing it on weekends now!!!

Glad it's working out for you.
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(who also cannot touch her toes and hasn't been able to in living memory either)

carolejo

Friday NoS :D and MILA :D I didn't even take my 'friday evening after 6pm' exception this week. In fact, I've not even Essed at all yet today - not had anything suitable in the house and not felt motivated enough to go out and get anything either - although I expect that will change as I'm going to ...

carolejo

I find Fridays are either easy to get through, cos I can honestly say (NoS Angel sitting on my right shoulder) "just hang on until tomorrow, then it's Saturday and you can eat that if you still want it" OR very hard, as in (little devil sitting on my left shoulder) "What's the difference? Tomorrow i...

carolejo

And the vending machine at work knew me by my first name. :lol: I hear ya! BUT NOT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: You can do this. Don't forget though, that there's a whole load of difference between "simple" and "easy". I won't lie to you. This ISN'T easy! Especially not at the start. But the hard p...

carolejo

Hey, we've got ourselves some nuns now, so I think we should be safe.....

*grin*
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carolejo

Oh Prodigal!! That's so funny. It's kind of what I had in mind though when I wrote before about the loud obnoxious alarm ringing. Maybe if you *knew* that an alarm would ring if you open the fridge and wake up the whole house you might think better of it Deb! :lol: Joking asside though, this is a re...

carolejo

Yesterday NoS SUCCESS MILA SUCCESS. Shovelglove keeps getting to be more fun with each passing day. I now find myself swinging the hammer in time to Sheryl Crow with some really daft 'idiot' grin from ear to ear. It's more like dancing with a hammer than the straightforward snow-shovelling / wood-ch...

carolejo

Hi Silent-Guy!

I have to say I thought you were a girl too. Sorry. I'm sure I'd never think that if I saw you 'for real' though. Internet personas can be so confusing.

Have a good day.
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carolejo

Your pasta sounds like nothing to worry about. One plate is one plate. And to Paraphrase Reinhard "If your one plate seems a little beastial and disgusting, well, that's part of the learning process too!" As you rightly pointed out, you didn't do the whole appetizer, dessert, soda, side dish thing, ...

carolejo

*RRReeeek* *Rrrreek* *Rreeek* (obnoxious sounding alarm bell) Attention Deborah! Come out of the refrigerator with your HANDS UP! This is your final warning! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You really made me laugh so much!!! Great going though. One night down already. Here's hoping tonight goes even ...

carolejo

Kimmi, don't worry about the '4 S days in a row' thing. This sort of stuff only happens a couple of times a year, and in the grand scheme of things, the 'macro' scheme of things, you won't do yourself or your weight any harm over this little period. Not if you concentrate on your N days, anyhow. I k...

carolejo

They will let you have soft drinks instead, but I imagine it's still the wrong kind of 'culture' if you're trying to avoid the *demon drink*.

carolejo

Hi Judy, I think if you've got to the point where you don't need to write it all down, then great! If you start sliding and feeling like it would help again, you can always start back up again, but in the meantime then posting only if there's something 'funny' going on, and every 21 days to tell us ...

carolejo

Oh, and at least all that protein will help you to feel fuller for longer than if you just went back to eating toast for breakfast...
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carolejo

Don't feel you have to write down everything you eat. Some people find it helps, but a lot of us never bother. Personally I only write it down if it was particularly interesting to me for some reason. Also, milk in your coffee is unlikely to make a great deal of difference on the 'macro' scale of th...

carolejo

Coworkers can be so mean!!!!

good on you for resisting though.
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carolejo

OK, well... By popular demand, here's some more info about The Hash House Harriers. http://www.harrier.nl. Warning, It'll be quite a long post! I had some loose idea of what to expect before I got there, as a friend of mine in Paris happens to be the Grand mistress for one of the hashes that runs in...

carolejo

Yesterday evening I didn't get around to doing my SG, which was bad, but I did do it today again. I'm really liking the obvious signs that I'm getting stronger and fitter. I can definately cope with holding the handle a lot further away from the head of the sledgehammer than I used to. The Boy is al...

carolejo

I'm as sure as I can be that NOBODY here is going to excommunicate you for doing NoS PLUS WP, if that's what you feel you have to do. Hope you come to feel at peace with your weight / weightloss and I wish you a ton of success. I for one would be happy to read how it's going for you every now and th...

carolejo

brussels sprouts are good done that way though, cos they stay mostly whole throughout, yet get a good mushy texture and soak up all that gravy....

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carolejo

technically today was a failure day, but I don't think it was so bad. I had to go to Kleve, Germany for a customer meeting but on the way home my train got diverted. Ultimate result was I ended up standing around in Utrecht about an hour and a half after I was expecting to have been at home, really ...

carolejo

That's really the point. We learn best from our failures, all of us!! Afterall, it's no good telling a small child NOT to touch something cos it's hot. Of course we still tell them - we want to protect them - but it rarely does any good. That kid just *has* to touch and find out for itself. Sure as ...

carolejo

Hmmm. Yes. It needs quite a lot of concentration for the first week or so, until it becomes automatic habit!

I had a Fuji-hiro side dish on 'autopilot' during my first week, so 3 cough sweets isn't terrible.

On and upwards though. Good luck!
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