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Thanks for the feedback, Deb and Pete. Some ideas for future video: 1) one clip per movement 2) a full 14 minute routine you can follow along with (low rep counts, very slow tempo) 3) (maybe) bare torsoed so you can see that not just the arms are being hit. I hesitate to do this because of the quasi...

Welcome, gravysmothered. Here are a couple of options: you could give yourself a forth additional mini meal. The pro is that it's minimally painfully and requires the least change to your current routine. The con is that that additional input opportunity makes your overall consumption more difficult...

Just a test to see how google video works. I go through all the basic movements once (7 rep sets). Much better than the non-streaming quicktime stuff I'm currently using on shovelglove.com. I think I'll do a separate video of each move and link to each from the movements pages/registry. http://video...

Excellent, Phayze. I'm glad to hear your sticking with it despite some initial trouble and seeing results. You're right to take it very slow. Don't worry about getting high rep counts. I think you'll get just as good a workout if you do two or more low rep sets of each movement than just one record ...

2 vacation S days and 1 Failure since last checkin (been a while, hasn't it?) The failure was pretty minor, and I didn't have much of a choice if I wanted to preserve my status as a nice human being, but still I'll call it that, just to keep me in line. We went to a great local BBQ joint (Redbones) ...

Kevin, I'm sure you're right. I was just trying to find *something* redeeming about the only realistic option I have. Besides being more fun, striking something is closer to the useful movement it mimics (which is why it's more fun). Good to see you posting here again. This had been a fun thread. Th...

Welcome Robin! The good news about the nos honeymoon is that nos actually gets easier after the you've established your habits -- which is important, since the that initial rush of enthusiasm only lasts so long. As for the nighttime protein... I think practice and habit will cure you of that. Beware...

Hi Kevin,

Glad to see you here again. Hope things are going well.

Your old log is here:

http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=103

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I'm going to switch service providers. These guys are bozos. We have the slowest, flakiest T1 line in existence.

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Hi Jan, It used to be impossible (except by sending me an email), but I just enabled it in the bulletin board preferences. I think you can just change it in your profile now. Let me know if not. It was recommended to me at some point to disable this option for security reasons, but I'm just going to...

Congratulations, Shel! I've got to warn you, you may eventually run into the opposite problem: I can't wear my wedding ring any more because it keeps on falling off.

Wow, James, this is striking. Congratulations and thanks so much for posting this. Time to get that gallery page together!

Jen, congratulations and welcome!

Besides the 21 days, I'm glad to hear big picture stuff is looking so auspicious.

Reinhard

Welcome hikermom.

I know it might not seem that way now, but habit can tame hunger. It's really not bad once you internalize the three meal routine. As Monica says, hunger actually becomes something good -- the proverbial "best sauce."

Best of luck and keep us posted,

Reinhard

Welcome, sk8rgirl. I'm sorry to hear it's been slow going in terms of pounds lost, but that's not unusual on no-s. Because its approach is so moderate (this is a big plus for the long term), you're unlikely to experience a quick drop up front. Are you eating less? With your new limited input opportu...

Welcome and good luck, JS.

Brace yourself for a few false starts till you get this down. It's trickier than you might think up front, but only gets easier.

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hi Merrykat. Is it working? (not sure what you're trying here).

Let me know if I can help...

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Willkommen, yaki! My hammers are all 36 inches = 91.44 centimeters There seem to be a humber of Vorschlaghämmer here, but no precise dimensions are given: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/10961731/ref=dp_brlad_entry/028-0776027-3381340 Judging by the weights, I would assume they must be ...

Nice run so far, flsunshine! Keep it up.

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Very nice.. there have been a lot of rowing movements proposed, but nothing as precise as this. I've been doing a confused rowing variant for a while (more like tossing the sledge from one hand to another), but this precision is inspiring... Could make for a great "Galley slave" or "Ben Hur" scenari...

James,

Your funny stuff days seem to mostly amount to 3 meals instead of 2. I know you hold yourself to a higher standard, but that's really not too bad as funny stuff goes...

Still, if it results in an extra burst of enthusiasm, I'm not going to quibble.

Reinhard

Great to have you back again, Jan!

Samurai,

I don't want to jinx your low profile return -- just want to say a quick welcome and good luck. Another scenario, too! You're back in strength... but no jinxing.

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This is great. Thanks so much for posting it, harpista. This means a lot, coming from a woman who ate as well as she did (in every sense) and lived a long, full, healthy life. No-s is just a slightly more precise formulation for those of us for whom this obvious wisdom is no longer intuitive -- thou...

Congratulations, Phil, and thanks so much for posting this. I hope I can bother you to post before and durings.... with yours I think we might have critical mass to get that "before and during gallery" together. Let us know how it goes with the baseball stats method. I'm thinking of touting it more ...

Thanks for the feedback, guys. I stuck in "Muscles worked" mostly out of a sense of obligation... I'll be happy to remove it. I'll check out the wikki links you sent, James. Whatever I wind up doing I want to make sure it works with the bulletin board user accounts so people don't have to create mor...

Congratulations and thanks so much for posting this, Kathleen! You look great and what a transformation. I hope you don't mind if I link to this from the testimonials page. Way more inspiring than dry text!

Best,

Reinhard

Happy birthday, James! Hope you're enjoying it far from your computer

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This is just a rough, first cut, just the movements I do:

http://shovelglove.com/movements/

Let me know if you're doing any movements that should make this list, or if you have ideas how it could be better structured.

I'm thinking of making a "routines" page, too.

Reinhard

Great scenario and link, Phayze.

I gotta get an mp3 of that song...

In all seriousness (well, maybe in half seriousness), Shovelglove is a kind of communion with our laboring ancestors.

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I'm definitely going to put together a movements registry page. I've been talking about this forever and it would just take half an hour or so. Somehow there have always been a million and one other things ahead of it in line for that half hour, but no more! I hereby officially commit to getting it ...

Daisy,

Sorry it's been forever since I've popped in here. Congratulations on your long string of successes and very respectable results!

Best wishes going forward,

Reinhard

That's funny. I've had failure dreams, too. Maybe you should keep 2 counts, one for waking life and the other for the unconscious :-) I love that you're keeping a running count. I think it's a good self disciplinary technique. I'd probably do it myself if I weren't utterly confident in my ability to...

Francois,

Glad things sound mostly good. An abject failure and a few tablespoons of ice cream here and there, but big picture, it sounds like you're getting into the groove of it and making progress.

Reinhard

Sorry about the horrid April and June, MerryKat (not just diet-wise).

You're right, snacks are probably the most difficult thing to manage playing it by ear... glad May furnished some personal evidence for you for this.

Best wishes for the rest of July,

Reinhard

Thanks for checking in here, 3aday. I'm so happy to hear it's working well for you. 7 months may not exactly qualify you as an "old" timer, but it's definitely respectable. You've got the hardest part behind you. And the fact that you're happy doing it now bodes very well for the future (on many oth...

Jan,

Great to hear from you again! I was worried when your reliable check-ins abruptly stopped. I'm sorry this job has made things so difficult, I hope its coming to an end is good news on more than just the no-s front.

Best wishes and looking forward to reading about your rehabituation,

Reinhard

I've actually been doing the handle all finances once a month system that Mike recommended (he recommended twice, but I've found I can get away with once). The "Financial 14th" is the day that works for me. Less chaos and stress, no late fees.

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I wouldn't do this regularly (zillions of empty calories), but it's techinally ok, even with that mysterious substance "topping".

Enjoy! (once in while)

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Welcome, wildnight! Stoke the oven is here: http://www.shovelglove.com/stoke_oven.html Hoist the sack is here: http://www.shovelglove.com/hoist_the_sack.html Shovelglove definitely hits the abs (coal miner abs were the original inspiration). Hoist the sack very directly works the triceps. Butter chu...

Welcome phayze, and thanks for the post. I'm very glad to hear that you with all your martial arts/exercise experience got so much out of it. But I'm afraid it sounds like you may be a little sore tomorrow... I always thought Shakespeare should have written a play about zombies fighting with lightsa...

James, I'm sorry to hear about your demon induced slacking, but wow, you seem to have psyched yourself out of it. Looking forward to a virtuous circle of determined resolve leading to success and vice versa. You've certainly done it before. I had a couple of minor but unambiguous glass ceiling viola...

2 special days since last checkin: 4th of July and 1 vacation day (had 2 more vacation days I counted a N days).

I tend to stick with a single weight for a long time (a year or more) once I get used to it. My logic is: fewer variables make progress clearer, and when you get used to a weight you're less likely to make a dangerous move, you can go on autopilot. It's also one less decision to make. If I'm feeling...

This reminds me a little of the debate about standardized testing in education. Most US tests today are absolutely terrible, but instead of arguing about how to make better, more meaningful, less obtrusive tests, it's either "any and all tests are good!" or "tests are inherently evil!" In education ...

This is great news, Kathleen! Thanks for posting.

Looking forward to pictures (though no pressure, if your camera shyness reasserts itself).

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mschalock, It may not be ideal, but I think it's sufficient to get started. The hardest part by far is building the habit of doing this regularly, the actual muscle work is comparatively easy, whatever the weight (up to a point, obvioiusly). You can build the habit with a broom. And a crowbar does h...

Sorry to hear about this, mommashell. My thoughts are with you. Best to you and your Dad, too, Deb.

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David, Thanks for alerting me to the existence of "sundome" and sorry I took so long to revisit this thread. I love having a technical, time-honored term for this essential shovelglove technique. It was a tad tricky to find anything about it on the web (lots of stuff about a structure called the Sun...

Tundrabird, Healthy snacks are certainly an improvement over unhealthy snacks, but they're still indirectly dangerous (and a tad directly dangerous). How? 1. They mess up your routine. Habit needs clear rules about when you eat. With these clear rules, habit gets strong and no-s becomes automatic an...

Great to see you here again, VanillaGorilla. "Real life" can be such a distraction

. Hope your hand is ok.

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For future reference: the "I have other interests" doesn't provide any additional information and reveals an obvious bias. If people think the poller is biased (especially against them), they're less likely to participate (your sig probably doesn't help in that regard either). Not to knock maintaini...

BMI might not be a perfect metric (and note that I didn't actually use it), but there's no question we've gotten much, much fatter. While it might yield absurd results on an individual level, I don't think the BMI increase over the last couple decades is due to an unprecedented proliferation of Holl...

In 1980, people in the United States were much skinnier than they are today. You don't have to go to some far out time and place to find skinny people. You just have to eat (and move) like an American circa 1980. What was 1980 like? People consumed a lot less skim milk and other virtuous diet food i...

Happy belated Canada day! Sorry for the delay, I was on the road (and extended weekend ludditing). Thanks also for your well-wishes for the 4th.

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Welcome, tallgirl. My guess is it will be much harder to start while you're surrounded by unusual vacation temptations. Yes, this is something you're going to have to learn how to deal with eventually, but going up agaist it now is a little like throwing raw recruits into a pitched battle instead of...

I've been talking for ages about coding up an online habit calendar where you can tick success/failure/exempt for every habit-day and have it light up in green/red/yellow. Well, someone has kinda sorta done something like this: http://www.joesgoals.com/ I think I'm still going to go ahead with my ow...

Nielsio,

Beautiful contraption... looks positively medieval. I underestimated you!

I tried your moves earlier this week, but they didn't quite click. Nothing unusual about that, it usually takes a few tries before I get a move down.

I'll post again when I try them next week.

Reinhard

Welcome cookie monster and nomad!

I think the no-s diet is the only diet out there that can appeal even too people who aren't overweight. Speaking purely in my capacity as a gourmand, I've never made a better culinary decision. My enjoyment of food has been vastly enhanced.

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Francois, "No snacking" means no eating between meals. I think it's actually a hugely important "S," and not at all arbitrary. If you don't keep your input opportunities discreet, you're never going to be able to monitor them without a whole lot of math (fun for a week or too, boring as hell for lon...

Having a small child definitely makes weekend luddite easier -- by making everything else much harder :-). It's an enormous help that she has figured out how to say "computer" (actually she calls it tv, very presciently convergent) and wants to bang away at the keyboard like mad every time she sees ...

Jan, sorry it's been so long since I popped in. Hope things are going well, post vacation.

Best,

Reinhard

I look forward to it! Your plan of starting with just a couple flights of stairs and then ramping up is a good one. By far the most important thing is to make a habit of doing some every day you're in the office. The physical part is comparatively easy once you get that down (though its a great excu...

An ambitious and dangerous poll (even for off-topic)! No subject interests me more than God and religion... but I've found it difficult to profitably discuss on the internet. So just a friendly, preemptive reminder to everyone: vote (and comment) away, but let's keep this civil, however rabid your v...

Congratulations on your continued success and thanks for popping in. Nothing is more useful to newbies than seeing this kind of sustained, long term success.

Looking forward to the next one,

Reinhard

Hello Francois, I know very little about AA... I linked to it because so far as I could tell it was the "industry leader" and I needed to deflect responsibility away from myself for a huge problem that can potentially kill someone overnight (plus we have at least one perhaps statistically insignific...

Welcome, Eskh. Glad to hear it!

I'm still surprised at how a little bit of disciplined moderation can turn problems into pleasures.

I hope the next few weeks, months, years go just as well. Drop us a line now and then.

Reinhard

Excellent resolution, Operababe.

Your 6th floor office is a tremendous opportunity.

It'll take some effort up front, but you'll be amazed how it gets easier.

Let us know how it goes,

Reinhard

Hi Shell, No s is about establishing habits of moderation. This is hard to do. And it's hard in a different way than we're used to. "Extreme moderation," making an extra, unsustainable sprint of effort doesn't get us closer to the goal -- on the contrary. You had an excessive weekend -- I've had lot...

Good luck, Deb! You're right to start small. It's harder than you think -- but the payoff is big, even limited to weekends.

Sorry to hear about your, Dad.

Best wishes you you all,

Reinhard

A lot of exercises require proper form. Those that minimize the importance of form tend to do so by sacrificing a lot of the workout value (nautilus machine vs. free weights). But form can be tricky. Shovelglove, at first glance, seems even trickier than free weights in terms of form. The movements ...

Thanks for posting there, Nielsio. The movements sound great and the real world analogies are spot on. I'll give them a try this week and let you know how it goes.

Nice one, Sledge. That does sound hard (in a good way). I remember how hard hammering up with a regular little hammer can be.

I'll try it out myself next week.

Reinhard

Welcome, Nielsio. A double hammer sounds a little unwieldy... you might want to consider using just one for now until you get the habit down. Building the habit and routine are harder than building muscle, and an unstable tool can make that tricky... though maybe I'm underestimating your mechanical ...

Thanks for the post, Daisy. Sounds very nice! Informal exercise is so much better than formal -- the healthy byproduct of something useful or pleasurable. As much as I love shovelglove (formal exercise pretending to be informal), if I could actually clear stables etc. instead of just pretending to, ...

A bunch of people have posted about using their sledge to whack tires instead of or as a supplement to vanilla, targetless shovelglove, and I have to admit, I'd started to feel a little inadequate that I don't do this myself (though of course it isn't really an option, given my cramped living space)...

Great idea. Home page worthy, in fact. Just make sure you're batting way over .300

I need to get this habit calendar page up already... it could compute all kinds of stats for you. Dieting could be as fun as fantasy baseball.

Thanks for the great idea and keep us posted,

Reinhard

Welcome Steve!

Great start (and great avatar!).

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Welcome, heathengirl.

Maybe we'll bump into each other urbanrangering around boston (though I usually stick to the camridge side of the river).

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2 "special days" since last checkin: 1 vacation, the other a double birthday for close family. Treated two more vacation days as N days.

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Great idea, Deb. Thanks for starting the discussion.

I can log in here, too. I've been stable for 4? 5? years now on nos/shoveglove/urbanranger.

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Congratulations, David! I've very happy to hear this.

Thanks for letting us know and for all the details -- very helpful for newbies.

Looking forward to seeing you around here for years to come,

Reinhard

This is great news, operababe. Congratulations! That's one of the most impressive up front losses that's been reported here. I'm also happy you seem mentally prepared for the inevitable long plateaus. Sorry for the long delay, I've been traveling ("vacation" seems like the wrong word with a 2 year o...

Congratulations, Daisy!

Off to your check-in...

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I guess it's mostly healthy, but it's also pretty caloric and tastes good. Everything I eat is full fat. There's no weird taste compromised low calorie health food. I make no effort to avoid whole milk, butter, cream, cheese, chicken skin, fatty meat, and am generous with the olive oil when I cook (...

Ouch. Sorry to hear it, Deb.

I think I'm sufficiently paranoid in this department to consider myself safe, but thanks for the tip.

Hope you're healing up ok,

Reinhard

Hmmm... Sounds interesting. I've heard something about this before. But I usually go all out (more or less) for 14 minutes straight. I guess I could go even more all out than I do, but that seems dangerous and unpleasant... but perhaps I'm not understanding it correctly. Thanks for posting and let u...

Welcome to the group, sledge. Do be careful about the duct taped plate... 20 something dollars for a heavier sledge is not a prodiguous sum for a modicum of safety and wieldyness. Also keep in mind that the hard part is not the muscle work but building the habit. I'd focus my hard coredom on that. A...

Vertical urban ranger is still going well. I've only used the elevator twice since I started at the new office in early March (once when I didn't know where I was going, and once when my wife and daughter came to visit). It's 175 steps, and I go up twice a day (morning and after lunch). Mornings I b...

Here's a typical N day for me: 1. Breakfast: a) skillet toasted mestamacher black bread with cheese, nuts, and some leftover dinner vegetables. A piece of fresh fruit. Black coffee. or b) a bowl of cold cereal with fresh fruit. Black coffee. 2. Lunch: oatmeal with nuts, dried fruit, seeds. Sounds mo...

Congratulations, Cab! First breakthrough in ten years, wow.

Thanks for letting us know and keep us posted,

Reinhard

Welcome back, Pete.

Sticking to a routine -- any routine -- is most of the problem. Shovelglove is very routine friendly, as these things go, but it still takes some serious effort to establish.

Best of luck this time around,

Reinhard

Welcome, Veronica (sorry for the delay, it's been a busy week).

No-s gives you a lot more to look forward to (and a lot sooner) than "a little bit of carbs." Incentive and reward are pillars of the systems.

Hope you've made it past 5 hours

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I'm happy it helped, Sue (and even happier to hear your daughter's ok).

Best wishes to you both,

Reinhard

Welcome amd congratulations, peachee!

Welcome, Operababe!

I think this is mostly habit, and in time it will get better and maybe even go away completely.

Till then, the caloric drink/oil sounds like a reasonable choice. It'll knock out the blood sugar thing without unduly diluting the clarity of your habit.

Reinhard

Congratulations! Glad it's working out with your schedule.

Welcome, metsgirl. Sorry for the delayed response... I guess this is a moot point now, but start whenever you feel suffiently energized. There are pros and cons to any day. Starting on a Monday might appeal to the ambitious -- they need a reasonable big goal to work up inspiration. Later during the ...

Good to see you back here again, Donna, and thanks for your kind words.

Keeping the 3 meal rule on S days sounds like a reasonable step if you find them getting too out of control. Just make sure to give yourself a treat of some kind (sounds like your are).

Best wishes going forward,

Reinhard

Welcome to the group, Marreta! Yeah, I thought I had invented something completely new when I came up with shovelgove, but over the years it's become apparent that there is a lot of precedent, which I humbly and gratefully acknowledge. I'm grateful because while originality is nice, it's comforting ...

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