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It just sounded like the snake thing was new.

Congrats on the negative celiac test. I mean, it's doable but it can put a real dent in your options.

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Or under it.

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I think it's interesting that you said if you HAD to eat whole foods 24/7. I guess we'd have to be on some remote island or something. It reminds me of a cartoon I saw in New Yorker magazine in Tehran (I think they had a Middle Easter version) in which there was a Middle Eastern bread baker standing...

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Can you help it if you are a mover and shaker?

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Sadly, delicious is not a reason to eat more anymore.

I've thought of getting a tortilla press and learning how to make them fresh because they are so wonderfully soft and "fluffy" feeling then.

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I'm aware of the recommendation as ideal. I saw it as a comparison to the general advice that snacks in general are needed. I can see how that was a misreading. 3squares, I apologize if I've muddied the water. Drink away!

But you may have to change your username to 3squares&aroundmeal.

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I just went to the Testimonials forum.

I hope to see your update there sometime.

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Well, you either stayed on the beam or you didn't. Hope its being March 1st helped.

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I like that notion of a proper WTH evening. Could you have also said "right proper"? or would that have been being more along the lines of wild?

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As they say, brush off the cookie crumbs and onto March!

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I think processed foods are most everyone's boogeyman. They just do a number on our satiety systems. Or rather they don't- their cutoff satiety point is so low that it takes a lot to feel like you've had enough. All populations that get easy access to manufactured foods get heavier and sicker, altho...

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Yes, feeling lighter is a thing. Or at least I'm convinced of it. Losing some water weight can do it. Eating less can do it. When I was younger, whenever I felt fat, it had a lot more to do with being overfull for a period of time. If I did that, even my clothes would feel tighter, though I'm convin...

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Did you see the thread on the free one-minute exercise site? I know it's just a minute, but it's so reinforcing to get a streak. There are only three moves that are free, but I'm finding many days, I just throw in a few moves that work similar muscles or ones that I use a weight with and mimic Shove...

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I still say you should consider experimenting with dropping it. It could just be continuing a habit of eating at night. I'm not one to think that eating before bed is evil, but it does negate some benefits of a longer overnight fast.

Your call, of course.

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I'm curious if you keep daily track to see if that 1.7 lb. gain lasts. It HAS to be water. Have you been slowly climbing or might you be on an up day? Women statistically gain during middle age. I don't know how long it's been a phenomenon. I suspect life has gotten more complicated for women (proll...

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That sent a shudder through me. I wonder if I'll decide later to drop it with all your stoic examples?

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I wonder how many people out of 100 bump their heads each day? I bumped mine several days ago, but not enough to feel it for long. I did touch my head later and wondered at first why it felt sore.

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March can be your training for Easter, if that's a wild adult Easter basket without the basket day for you. (I used to fail big time after Easter because of discount candy the next day or so.)

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Even with only seven green, it sounds like moderation might be "sneaking" into even your red and yellow days. Lookout, you might be a moderate eater very soon!

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A NWS day watching snowflakes fall when you rarely see them sounds sweet. Prolly no big reasons for more than a second NWS day this month.

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Without that flap, it sounds like a snake door!

I'm sorry if I missed this, but did you move recently?

Good plan for S day breakfast

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Just starting up the thread. Will update with calendar later.

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I think it can get in the way when you have one signature task. It's too much like WTH, if you DON'T do it. I get that it's supposed to be just one thing you can do to hang your hat on, but as I said... I do find that making my bed is more likely and has led to my keeping the bathroom right off the ...

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Finishing up February today. If you're going strong, fantastic! If not, forgive yourself and aim for the smallest win you can today. Try NOT to think, well, I'll let things go today and get tougher in March. Sometimes. just one gap between meals or cutting a "failure" in half or postponed an hour ca...

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Thank you for sharing your observations. It's so easy to get lured by the excess messages, even if the messages are encoded in the food- esp. the packaged stuff. 8) Is this what you meant about a previous post? If not, let me know if you want me to delete it. ****************************************...

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I meant the water in your body. :) It builds up for the big event! In a week, it will be over, right? But they're not very comfortable weeks. :( Man, I wish I liked that bite of arugula. If I did, maybe I could learn to like coffee black. It's doctored. So is my tea. Otherwise, it's like medicine to...

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Just about all flour foods can be fit in to the stomach in large quantities. I call it a particle food. (Just about all packaged snack foods are particle foods.) In a certain way, it's already been chewed/ground up, though with no liquid, so it's in essence dry in comparison to how you'd have to mak...

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Water, water, everywhere. Do you keep track of the trends? It might be interesting to compare the weights at analogous times of the month for awhile.

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:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 03 04 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: NWS :mrgreen: :oops: 10 11 :oops: :oops: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 17 18 :oops: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :oops: 24 25 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 28 NWS 2/7 had to take meds with food, timing not right to be at meal, so ate a sna...

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I'm not terribly burdened by this, but I wish coffee drinking wasn't such a habit. I just want it in the morning. I get up and I want it. Or that I could stand it black. I know people say they get used to it, but by itself, it tastes like a poison to me. I sucked my thumb when I was older than peopl...

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My gmail was cluttered with a few hundred daily newsletters from her for a few years. I'd periodically delete them, but keep a few I really thought I was going to go back and read, especially on paper issues. Finally unsubscribed. I now get some of the same messages from a team I'm on on Sparkpeople...

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You aren't on a diet. You're eating the way you probably would have if you had been born in a slim country. Pretend you're an immigrant holding on to your superior eating culture.

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Where do you get duck meat? Is apricot loaf a bread or an official dessert? That reminds me, I have some semi-dried apricots in the freezer. Going to put a few in yogurt to have tomorrow.

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Wait, what? A venomous snake? Where in heavens name do you live? (Actually, when I was 7, we moved to a not-so-big California city and to a rather remote street to a corner house that no one had lived in for awhile. There was a wide open area on two side in a kind of desert-ish environment. Not long...

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Thanks! I was kind of free falling. I often sound so serious here, but I drive people crazy with my sounding off in real life. (There was a woman in my musical theater class who was doing that last night, and it made me thing, hmm, I have to be a lot more judicious about that. She sometimes asks ver...

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I lied, big time. I used the Friday night event as an excuse to start eating in the afternoon. I reported it as a fail because even on S days/NWS days, my mod is not to eat S's out of sight of others. It was about two big bowls of cereal, cereal I came to have under dubious circumstances. The rest o...

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Grand scheme, so true. Year after year. Just like the slim cultures do. 8) I go to a free Shakespeare reading once a month that is catered by a local English shop with scones and tea, sometimes with clotted cream. I almost always tell myself I will have only one scone, but it's usually two and a hal...

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BTW, the marketed offerings at the bottom of you page today include two packaged meals that both included meat. They often include items related to something I searched for in the last few days. I have no idea where those came from! I'm amazed to think they make enough sales off that tactic that the...

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Continued kudos!

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Sorry for bubbly stomach. Those would be tough for me to give up, but if I thought they were giving me such grief, it would definitely be worth the experiment.

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Reading a book for OCD not long before No S made me decide that my compulsion to overeat was a lot like other compulsions in that it would feel like I just had to have the food or something terrible would happen. It was just a set of thoughts and feelings. Nothing more terrible than just putting up ...

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I just figured from your first post on Jan. 16, but I realize now you had already been at it. And you are being able to tap into your previous history. Sounds like things are moving nicely.

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Sorry for your troubles since 2106 but glad for your husband's recovery. and for starting your thesis, etc. Welcome back. Nice to hear you are already enjoying some of the benefits again.

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Enjoy the effects as they are! There are no guarantees that changes are linear. They usually aren't! It's more about the trends. You can't really see a trend on any one or two days. But it's very good to reflect on and enjoy the pleasures you DO experience.

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Excellent progress.

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Wow, I am trying not to use this against me. I have been free to declutter for weeks and have done only a few cabinets and some from bedroom corner and storage space. And I went to a fundraiser rummage sale yesterday and bought stuff! But I am still happy when I see the bottles and such in pullout p...

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Lucky you, Over43. :wink: When that video was popular, there was a scene on the old Ellen Degeneres sitcom in which Ellen was on the floor in workout clothes being browbeat by someone to exercise. Ellen said something like that she didn't care about buns of steel. All she could think about was buns ...

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That recommendation comes from goals outside of No S. That's probably IDEAL for building muscle, but No S isn't about the most muscle. I doubt not eating then is going to turn your muscles to wisps. But if you're actually hungry (I hardly ever get hungry until hours after a workout), it's within the...

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Declaring a NWS day. A friend invited me to an event tonight that will involve spread out appetizers and dessert. I eat S's only among others, even on S days so I'm doing it. Got only one event with others planned on an S day this weekend.

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I need to hear it, too, in other areas. Housework, run-ins with students and others- we'll just stop there... I'll try to listen to my own advice!

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Five weeks in. All in due time. I used to determine what food I was going to go off my plan (before NO S) with by what items that I considered very, very good were available at discount stores. "Well, if this is available, I'll get it and eat it." Once in awhile, they'd have it but the line was so l...

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That you felt that you almost had to drop out to get how good No S was for you is what I was saying about the usefulness of relapse in drug treatment. Just like it often takes several tries to get serious and find an eating system that works, it usually takes "users"several tries, too. Getting more ...

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Drat! Yea, it's sad but probably true: being short and in mid-life seems to allow for a lot less leeway in eating. It may take some unusual conditions- in that they aren't just the status quo with less of it- to counteract that body's attempts at homeostasis or other influences. We have only about 3...

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I used to keep chocolate in the trunk of my car! Not sure if that would just make another time of day more trying for you. And it didn't always work but enough to make a difference. A woman I knew years ago who had kicked alcohol said she went to a lot of movies alone for quite awhile in the beginni...

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Wrote a longish comment that I lost.

Her saying that she felt so much more space for other topics reminds me of an old OA motto that nobody seems to know about anymore: three meals a day and LIFE in between.

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Here are a couple more from different times. Link any you know of here, please!

https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11686

https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=10810(this one is more from a health POV, not the satisfaction/hunger issue.

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How's your first month back gone? It's okay if it's been rocky. Or maybe it's been so easy that you've moved on to other things!

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I was searching for something else in the archives and stumbled on this entry from you: The first time I did Vanilla No S, I lost nearly 25 lbs eating only three meals. My breakfast was small, but lunch and dinner was very sufficient on my one plate. Too many sweets and snacking on the weekends caus...

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That's the kind of thing I found was like circling the airport, which I think was a good holding pattern. Over a long period of time, my eating has become pretty darn "whole," but if I had told myself in the beginning I had to eat like this, in the amounts I do now, the plan would likely have fizzle...

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Merry, get that cake now!

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The whole three minutes! But really, it would have been so easy to start tearing into the bread. I used to buy a garlic whole wheat artisan loaf sometimes and fail by eating about half of it on the way home. More than three minutes but less than fifteen.

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No, there are already too many stickies. If no one is posting,, and new threads are started, it's going to get moved down. Bumping will go only to those who are following the thread.

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Good move. I sometimes think I might not have been willing to use No S when I was in my twenties and thirties because I stayed up so much later. Now it's basically just a few hours between dinner and bed. Easy peasy.

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Relapses at this point in the history of substance abuse therapy are almost considered part of the process. It often reminds the person what had become so miserable about the habit, and they often recommit with even better results. (Not saying our eating is substance abuse, but both are habits along...

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re:snow. The most magical part is that you probably won't have to shovel it.

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Octavia, I think the only thing those days have in common is that we actually stick to the protocol.

What leads us NOT to do that is likely a lot of things inner and outer coming together at the same time. But the bottom line solution is the same: wait to eat.

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Wow, someone who actually knows about music. Unlike me, who's never bothered to actually learn that part. Unless Jordan has an idea,and I think he won't because he wants us to pick our own, I think I'm going to do "I Am What I Am." It was originally a Shirley Bassey song, but got taken up as a gay a...

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Holding steady, knock on wood. Had a little bit of a setback in my singing class. Both songs I wanted to do are written in a key too high for me. We basically use background music on the internet for our songs. The teacher (Jordan) said it would be hard to find some music already produced out there ...

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Lucky cancel. Onwards!

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I get a little anxious when I have to eat a lot of food out. I've become so aware of how much all the food establishments have to compete for our money with similar weapons: salt, sugar, fat, all in refined packages, and all very easy to overdo in just a few bites. That makes it sound evil, doesn't ...

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Two thumbs up!

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Sweet, on more than one level!

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Are you kidding? Of course you can consider yourself a No S-er while following any guidelines you've been given. Illness is a perfect reason to cut particular foods from your diet. In fact, healing illness is what a specialized diet is designed for, not weight loss. No one should never insist on Van...

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It's been only a little over a month since you've been back, right? Reinhard didn't hash over the details of his first years on No S, but since he's emphasized that this about averaging things over hundreds and hundreds of plates, I think what happens on the first few days back from a break is small...

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Cheers, all! Had a big lunch yesterday at the end of an Indian cooking class I go to periodically. Also nibbled a lot of the way through, which we don't usually do, but it was at a different venue and snacky things were set our plus we had some people there different from the usual crowd who were fo...

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Well done, Missy. I've been including something green in my lunches for a couple of decades (even when I was binging) and anyone who saw my lunch would say, "That looks so healthy!" Or "What is that?" but with nice curiosity. This is when I was eating kale 10 years before the trend.I don't know if i...

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Oh, the lists I made! The paragraphs I wrote describing the life I wanted as if it already was, as was recommended! The money and time and heart I spent! Much like diets: might work for a few, but mostly selling dreams with testimonials. Sure, there are testimonials here; this was based on one excep...

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I had started a response but accidentally closed the page before I finished. Suffice it to say I think your changes are great and moving along wonderfully. I think when people want all the problems over in 12 weeks like so many body transformation programs promise, they give up too soon. I read some...

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What incredible and delicious developments! So happy for you.

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Linda, you're right in step with your peers. Women do have higher weight ideals as they age. Women at my age/height aren't completely happy with their weight until they weigh 129. Women at X weight want to weigh Y. Women at Y weight want to weigh Z. Interesting, the lighter women want to weigh more ...

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I think this was my first year absolutely not planning a raid on the day-after discount chocolates. I haven[t done oit for a few years, but I think I fantasized about it. I didn't feel much about it romantically, either. But no date! And just about all my relationships happened when I was at higher ...

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Ask yourself calmly and rationally: can you be truly convinced if you eat in response? Are you suspecting down deep that you somehow will escape the consequences, as you know some people do? Or that you'll be delivered from it by a turn of circumstance, which could actually happen, by the way. It's ...

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I wrote such a long response that I felt like I was bogarting too much (me! me! me!) and moved the post to my thread. It's certainly a repeat of what i've said there before more than once but long enough ago that it's too much trouble to look back.

Kisses to all!

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I'll say you did a lot of walking..and in the rain! But, dang, when are you going to be there again?

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Pontificating here on No S is another way to avoid getting rid of clutter, especially paper clutter. Iâ€™ve done it for years! By the way, when I use text, it writes â€œno assâ€ for you know what .

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I just couldn't stand the idea that food ruled me so much and that I would spend the rest of my life caught by it if I didn't get serious. I strove to keep redefining what moderation meant because it was so central to me. I couldn't let calories rule me, either. I kinda wanted to prove that you can ...

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Oh, I can't take much of the credit. I was blessed that the timing was so good for gaps between meals. You really figuring out what you need for your condition. I know from experience that that doesn't always lead quickly to the habit! Oh, how I remember the fast food stop on the way home. And often...

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I agree completely about the low mood possibly being a reason the brain makes up to get to another binge. Though I had plenty of low moods-generalized anxiety here- my first few years (and beyond) but I saw that it only got worse later with eating, as it was rarely just a nibble. That's why I tell p...

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Your comment on malaise struck home. I don't know if it's accurate or not, but I had some weepy, discouraged, and weary thoughts and feelings last weekend and it occurred to me that they were similar to ones I had after active binging. It seemed very likely that the "chemicals" were a stimulus to th...

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How was your week? I did look back at your posts from 2015. If revealing all is not your thing, no worries. Have a great journey

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That is fantastic news, Karen. It's so nice to be able to just slip into the stream and float!

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Even with guests! a real win

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I think you are very wise to consider cutting the refined carbs. Of course you love them! It also makes sense to me that potatoes don't fluff you up, unless it's potato chips you're talking about. Boiled or baked potatoes are not refined. Diets that restrict foods and even amounts are what are MADE ...

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Wow, your body was determined to get ready for the famine! There must have been one you were running away from...

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You can always report your S's on S days.... but I wouldn't have in the first two years! :evil: Actually, I've decide to do it now, in my 8th year as a mod. It's not my devilish idea: I'm pretty sure it's one Reinhard suggested in the "S Days Gone Wild" podcast. But no one would hold it against you ...

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I read a blurb once about a woman whose husband was in the service and went ahead of the family to get a place ready for their move. The wife got rid of tons of his stuff in emptying out their old house. After they had been in the new place awhile, they had a dinner at which she revealed what she ha...

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