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Someone just started a whole new thread on mods, many of which have to do with S days mods. And we have an original mods thread, too. You might want to check them out first. It's really nice, I think, to keep things consolidated. https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2527 https://everydaysy...

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If the previous times, you didn't have a lot of green weeks, I warmly suggest that you consider not trying to limit yourself on weekends as a way to discipline yourself. It often backfires because a person loses the sense that they are not trapped. Try listening to Reinhard's podcast #s 21 and 33.

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https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11497

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The jury is still out on when in a person's "development" that health information actually causes a change in behavior. That being said, post your finds on shocking sugar facts here. Not that it stopped me from having some sugar yesterday and today, I heard a stat on an interview with Stephen Guyene...

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previous thread dedicated to this topic

https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2527

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Big kudos on Friday being green! I didn't mean to criticize your friend. I hope you didn't think that was my intent. It's often said that everyone's different but that is only partially true. The statistics of failure on dieting have been the same for 150 years. Unless someone chooses a way that can...

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Lin, how long did you practice No S before leaving the last time? I'm not up on your whole history. I do know that in 2015, you said that you had been here even before that.

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The other issue to me is what %age of a person's weight is the loss? A 300-lb. person losing 12 lbs. of water in a week from low carb sounds about right. I'd be surprised if she didn't lose that, since protein and fat on their own are dehydrators, in essence. Nothing else to do but eat our meals and...

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I'm not old school on pumpkin pie because it doesn't send me. I like the cream versions better, but I take what I get because neither one is important enough for me to buy one anymore. Now you have me wishing someone brings a cream version to something....

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But over quick...

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I don't count losing 12.5 pounds in a week working for anybody. If she's not doing it two years from now, maintaining the habit if not the loss, it's not working. You can't know in a week what's working! Yeah, that's my bias but it's served me well, and the short term has failed over 95% of those wh...

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Gillian Riley thinks that a lot of our eating is driven by hijacked reward systems gone cuckoo from cruddy food and just a greater acceptance of overeating and lots of sweets and starches. I like the metaphor, even if it isn't true. It's definitely helped me this week. Do I want to reinforce the fal...

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You've probably told your story before, but what Atkins "didn'' work" anymore? You stopped losing weight or was gaining? Or missed carbs too much? 30 carbs a day doesn't allow for many potatoes, barley, or even fruit... but it sounds like using similar guidelines for your three meals is not torture ...

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Found this in a really old email. Just here to admire the artwork in the first post!

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That's astounding in our culture! Yet I think it was par for most of our history, at least in urban areas.

And congratulations to you, too.

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Atkins for two years! I wonder if it's a sign of my being addicted to carbs that I can imagine going without meat for two years but it makes me want to cry to do the same with grains, beans, and potatoes. Or even to have to limit them to tiny amounts. How many grams of carbs were you eating daily mo...

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Nov. 1-3 Wed. Thurs. Fri. RED

Nov. 6-8 M-W GREEN

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Food list skipped dried beans, but otherwise a pretty good primer.

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I'm glad the pain situation seems to be over. Many households could use a concerted effort to manage the food-rich culture. This one is one of the least crazy-making, I'd say. But I'm biased.

Keep us apprised as you like!

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Lin, my experience with Zen sitting for several years helped set the stage for using this attitude for No S purposes. The body would sometimes be screaming for me to move but I learned it was rarely helpful to do it. It would start screaming again in awhile. I haven't had near the success "sitting w...

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I don't know where it is- in mods somewhere or a podcast, but I remember Reinhard once saying that a new mod for him was giving up those mindless, "joyless" snacks, like plunging your hand into the box of whatever just because you looked in the cupboard. Or even letting yourself look ifor something ...

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I like to think that just as exploring cooking the "regular" foods can be fun part of No S, so can experimenting with some "new" foods. Not packaged things and such, but just a few things added to the repertoire. I've incorporated things like flaxmeal or coconut oil, but I not because I think they'r...

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I'm sending you an email so it will be easier to delete it without drama if you feel it's a drag.

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I hope you're making it! Consider going to bed earlier a few nights. IF possible.

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Reinhard just said recently on the Facebook group that the thinking side of things is crucial. There is no way to change eating habits without changing some thinking, especially because the body will put up a fight and produce a lot of thoughts and justifications to deviate from the plan. That's wha...

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Frozen veggies are pretty darn fast.

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What fb page?

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I agree with David Burns of Feeling Good repute: self-esteem should be unconditional, but it's just about impossible to have self-confidence and self-respect without the right behaviors that build them. And we ultimately want them all. Come to think of it, self-esteem takes the right behaviors, too,...

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Take as many greenish-yellow smiley faces as you need! Big hugs.

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I have had to admit that when I slip, it's almost always on sugar or flour or somehow a dehydrated, processed starch. I haven't cut them out completely but I'm mulling over what situations I will allow them in, and I have cut them way down over the years--unless I'm failing. I'll still eat potatoes ...

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Health conditions are the most common spur for weight loss success as recorded in the National Weight Loss Registry. But the majority of sick people either don't believe it or down deep believe they will beat the odds playing Russian roulette and some of them will. But others won't. Or they believe ...

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What astounds me about what Fung says is the idea that the vast majority of his successful patients are ultimately NOT eating less when they fast for 24-36 hours. Or not admitting that their incentive has a big influence on compliance. I do think the fasting is part of the solution for those with in...

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Thanks, Gingerpie. As Reinhard says, most of being able to implement No S depends on changing our thinking about our eating and our excuses. I'll admit that when it comes to items to buy and places to visit, cost and lack of proximity may help make the decision, because the urges to buy or go don't ...

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I wonder how you're doing, Ammy?

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It's important to think ahead to what obstacles you may encounter. What reasons/thoughts might come up to eat outside the window? How will you refute them? I feel sad when I see how many times in the past so many situations can sway you from your stated intentions, leaving you whirling in thoughts t...

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The message about consumerism has been around for decades- it was called conspicuous consumption in the 60's but isn't really recognized as conspicuous by the masses- but it has only risen in the ensuing time. Yet, one of my college friends who was very deep into environmental studies for decades re...

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Honestly, I would have called that virtual plating, really. I don't think that would be being in denial. But it's your call.

Might warm milk have done the trick?

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I usually feel as good as my most recent day of eating. Therefore, ending 2017with a couple of good months can feel great no matter how bad the previous ten have been. I'm going to add "feeling great about my last months of eating on New Year's Day" to my list of reasons to eat moderately that I wil...

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see update below

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Nice posts from all, but fail-a-thon is a keeper.

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How can you say overeating is not worth it if it can't be measured? You must have had to experience it to say it's not worth it. Why not add not overeating during weekday 8-hour eating windows to your behavior goals? It will be unlikely you'll experience any reinforcing benefits from fasting 16 hour...

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There's only one way to show that overeating isn't worth it and that's to NOT do it. If a person does it, it means she is still not convinced. She thinks the discomfort of not overeating ISN"T worth it. The pleasure or ease or urgency (even if it isn't pleasant) is more important. That is not a crim...

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Thanks, Linda. And I know what you mean about best friends. My friend who moved 500+ miles away is someone I can talk to pretty well, but even when she was here, she never wanted to just hang out the way I would have liked to have. But there are people who might have wanted more from me. Okay, anoth...

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You're slimmer than 84% of your peers. Not that it's a contest.

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I definitely need tuning up though I tend to forget it every afternoon. Oy vey. And yes, I remember you both!

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See below.

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It sounds like you're convinced, and this is overkill, but just for fun, look at this.
https://fatfu.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/weight-watchers/

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My wobbling has been escalating. I"d better join, except that I forget to come back and keep track when I don't get an email message that someone else has posted. Oh, well I guess if it's important enough, I'll do it, and if not, shut my mouth.

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Congrats, ammy1993. When is your baby due? The things about the doctor's link are the comments on fat consumption, recommending oils and spreads, whose greater consumption has correlated almost exactly with the rise in obesity, and using bread as the first source of supposedly whole grains. Bread is...

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Are you saying that if no one can guarantee that you'll lose weight on No S that you'll be okay with eating the way you've been eating and living with the body you have? I ask this with all the warmth I can: if you REALLY want to lose weight, why do you think you haven't? What gets in the way? What ...

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Just keep chipping away. Drink something at night and try not to fear or cave. You'll be sleeping most of the time to breakfast. Promise yourself a doozy of a breakfast, but make it optional when you wake up with little appetite.

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Maybe 2018 will be the year we all swear off diet book porn...

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Oh, they think if the kids have to go to school the day of and after Halloween, they have less time to wind themselves up. Some logic to that.

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Welcome back! Just to ponder: is there anything that you really want that you can't get if you keep falling off the wagon? What would make it worth to just flat out tolerate ANY reason to eat outside Vanilla without eating? (Answering these questions really honestly were pivotal for me, so I'm proje...

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Merry, that's what I meant when I said I find it more annoying because it's become so obvious that it's ineffective for the problem at hand yet persists as a desire. I find a lot of people talk about emotional eating as if it's almost impossible to overcome, like it's inevitable and understandable. ...

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I think you meant the town offsets Halloween from a school night to a weekend night. I thought I'd see some Halloween people out when I had dinner out Friday night. Even at a Dia de los Muertos event I didn't see any costumes or face makeup.

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Waiting rocks!

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I don't think they found honey very often, and their fruits were much less sweet than ours. But we do what we can where we are today.

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Glad for you about the candy.

Just keep trucking along!

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Ah, if only regular sleep would come. It's much like weight loss, seems to me: responds in unpredictable ways to my efforts. But it probably is an influential part of the mix.

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Great job winding up October.

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Yes, and totally not romantically interested in me. And yes, he has said it outright in as kind a way as possible years ago,, so I'm not guessing. He recognized that I was good people, and thought maybe the spark could be there, but it just wasn't for him. But at my age, with my lack of success at i...

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I just wrote you a long message. I'll say here that you should give it a few months of non-wild S days before allowing yourself to fret. Since you've been compliant for a couple of years, I'll wager you'll be safe implementing this through the upcoming season of even greater egregious exposure. If w...

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I'm in the middle of another post, but I'll say briefly that to me there is a world of difference between a BMI of 30 and the author in the link. If you feel vital most of the time, are okay with the amount of modern manufactured food you eat, are okay with your level of hunger and satiety, and with...

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And to add to it, the process might not always be fun. Nearly all skill development involves some intense frustration with not getting it right coupled with the refusal to be stopped by the difficulty. It's accepted as part of the journey, but NOT accepted as reason to ultimately fail. Which doesn't...

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I hope the 21-day club will bring a return to your 2010-11 successes. You deserve to have some respite from the tug-of-war, as do we all who are are sliding some in the mud.

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It's a conundrum, in my opinion. Sure, she shouldn't be vilified in public on a daily basis, but I have to say I find it hard to believe that she got to 330 lbs. eating moderately. Unreasonable French disapproval of fatness was not the only reason their society had one of the lowest BMI averages in ...

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Belated congrats to bd88 and big yay to SpiritSong. Relapse is a real thing and can't become a reason to give up on a reasonable plan.

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Those unused days boost my monthly retirement, or for sure, I'd be leaving a semester early. I would not take them piecemeal. Too fragmenting for me. I feel discombobulated being gone and coming back, and leaving plans for a substitute teacher are so time consuming when you're dealing with kids who ...

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Thanks, Selcazare. MM, I feel for ya. Try not to berate yourself. Has it ever worked for much longer than an hour or two? If it worked, you wouldn't be here. In fact, shaming yourself is actually part of the overeating habit and keeps it strong. Do you see it yet? Aren't you miserable overeating? Yo...

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Not this week. I will just pay for it later. I need contact personally with students for what I have to do. At least my job can't be outsourced...yet.

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Let's fight food while we decry our jobs together.

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I took one! But still didn't get all the grading done. Oh, well. staying up late. I've got only 34 days left this semester. I can afford a few more of burning the midnight oil.

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If you are enjoying your meals without sweets, terrific! Humans have lived without many intense sweet foods for most of history and never missed them. You're connecting with your ancestors.

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I dunno, if a person is going to be spending a fair amount, it might be nice to have help. I assume you were thinking of making changes anyway. Neither my sister nor I could likely succeed in really impressing each other because we have such different tastes and values. Not that her house isn't pret...

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RE: site down, I was thinking of my thousands of posts but also of people I couldn't keep in touch with! You at least are on the Facebook page, no? Can't we just move to Italy or France for a year? Oh, a decorator would have a heart attack if s/he saw my place, but I've really never been trying. See...

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I keep seeds and meal there, too. Nice nutty flavor and fibrous.

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Any relation, Linda?

It's already been posted to SPAM.

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TX, gp. I think I have a follow-up appt. tomorrow with doctor. Will ask about hair thing. but I suspect it's age and keeping it pulled back. I've never really been immune to urges. Have kept my sweet tooth, but dealing with it isn't usually torture, though recently, I've gotten exasperated with the ...

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My eating week is about as good as my last couple of days, which have been good. I don't think I did anything egregious before that, but I don't feel the solidity I used to when I rarely questioned whether I was going to be green. I did stop at Costco again for tastes. I've decided that's an accepta...

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I didn't read the whole thing but that quotation is chilling. The market forces to keep this mistake going are huge. They capitalize on every weakness, including the all-American emphasis on freedom. I feel I used individual responsibility to battle this, but I see that for all our talk about indivi...

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I agree with gingerpie. You've got to see that your emotional eating is actually causing you more grief than the original problems so it will be worth going through the tough withdrawal. I was a compulsive eater/binger with lots of emotional problems. Guess what, the problems are pretty much still t...

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First, you sound like you are handling this news really well. I've been lucky enough not to have any "innards" problems yet in my life. It's slightly frightening to me that my insides that run pretty well could be on their way to going wonky without my knowledge at all. And then if something does go...

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Of course, you're preaching to the choir here. NO slim culture on earth eats on whims. Poor girl. Nobody gains 30 lbs, listening to their true hunger. And the British are hefty eaters, so there was probably lots of reinforcement for frequent eating. (In 2011 the Guardian reported that British women ...

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I suspect that self improvement didn't get big until the Industrial Revolution and people saw some who accumulated incredible wealth and aspired to change their lot. And it's also because societies that value material things get stuck on the hedonic treadmill where people get acclimated to the new s...

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I didn't mean what strategy would make you willing to eat less even when it's hard, I meant what OUTSIDE your eating habits would make it worth it to challenge your fear of "restriction?" Not being a slave to whims and random eating? A comfortable feeling in your stomach instead of feeling stuffed? ...

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RE: thin female characters famed for eating a lot. Grace Adler on Will and Grace. Even if it were true that she could gorge and stay skinny, I still resented it. Their kidding of her was the only price she had to pay for gorging.

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My chest hair is full enough.

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I'm pretty sure a lot of humans lived without a lot of daily self-improvement goals for a few thousand years, religiously-oriented ones excepted. And Ben Franklin.

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Checking in after the weekend.

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Okay but I'm still not going to do the dishes before I go to bed...

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Belated kudos for the weekend!

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Are there homes in which the siblings don't fight? Yours sound like they get over it and can have a good time together. That's better than many. If you want to take the blame for that, go ahead.

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If that floats your boat , do it. We were talking about that constant barrage of food. Plus, most people want to keep the work week Vanilla. I think.

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Kathleen, if you feel my post was too strong and you'd like me to remove it, I'd be glad to.

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NOOOO, don't do it! I mean, food at the office more often.

We should start a national movement of anti-office birthday cake. There's got to be SOME other way to celebrate.

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It's not to say that some short, small women eat more and somehow burn it off. But you'd know if you were one of them already...

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Sounds reasonable.

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A 24-hour shift merits a mod in my book. Are you a doctor?

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