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If a couple of "too much" meals are all you're having, you are WAY ahead of the game. Awesome!

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I remember being on a road trip with my then-boyfriend and we were having disagreements and tough feelings. I had always thought I was someone who could "communicate," but I was silent a fair amount. I wanted to either lash out or just go home on my own at times, but I sat with the discomfort. There...

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Yes, make the leisure, the sights, the sounds, the togetherness, the air, etc., the essence of the holiday. It might have made sense at one point in time when people ate quite conservatively most of the time to let go some on holidays, but our normal days (before No S) were/are hardly conservative. ...

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How did the end of the week go?

In any case, tomorrow is hump day.

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No S can work if you are enthused by the idea of moderation, eventually on most days of the year. It is not something that responds to losing weight by a certain date. It works by a person discovering over time that she actually enjoys her overall life better when she's not eating as much as she use...

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Get your reasons front and center. Maximize how important they are to you! Without completely dismissing them, minimize the difficulty in complying. See your rebel not as a personality trait but just the habit exerting itself. It will try to make you feel and think anything to keep the habit. It is ...

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No there is nothing wrong. You are fine. Your body is tapping into its reserves. You just never needed all the food you thought it you did. It was habit and a ton of other cues we have to eat. The body will react to eating less in a variety of ways, most of them beneficial for longevity. I think the...

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I've pretty much trained myself to wait until the entree to eat. I don't order appetizers, but there are often ones to share, so I put what I want from them on my plate when it comes before I start eating. I save salad, too. I sip my drink while others eat and really relish those first few bites of ...

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Who would have thunk a "diet" could be a refuge?

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Greetings! I think I fell off of the bandwagon due to not forming good enough habits before I tried modding what I was doing. Premature optimization. A common problem, despite the exceptions. I assume you would make mods because of slow weight loss. I've seen a lot of people return weighing even mor...

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Tortie wrote: I also learned through this nutrition tracker that all of my excess calories came from snacks.

Say it into the microphone!

Looking forward to delightful testimonials.

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Only time will tell, and I look forward to your long term success.

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I am not pre-diabetic. Since you are, I would say stopping eating things you don't enjoy unless they are very sweet is actually a smart strategy. Modern cereals are way more processed than any grains eaten before they arrived on the scene. I think there is no reason to eat any food that needs to be ...

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When you finish the food on your plate, you're done. Tastes according to Merry's guidelines sound fine. Popping bites in just because they're there is not. It's unlikely you will eat less at the meal even if you do, nor will you experience the same enjoyment of those first few bites eaten civilly wh...

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Welcome home. I hope you can see that what you really need is to get overeating under control. There is no consistent weight loss without that. Here's to your managing your hypoglycemia, too. Not sure if Vanilla is okay for that. Just because No S allows for free rein on S days, it doesn't mean that...

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I'm afraid to open ellaspragins one post. See general discussion thread dicey-titled thread on Aug. 11.

This member's posts look fishy, too.
https://everydaysystems.com/bb/profile. ... le&u=10471

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Apparently, eating a cup of cashews (paleo!) whenever I was feeling peckish wasn't helping me lose weight. Likewise, with bacon treats whenever I walked by the fridge. I knew there was trouble when I found some delicious avocado oil-fried cassava chips (paleo!) at the market. Perhaps eating 4/5 of ...

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I awake early all year long. I just don't like having to be out the door and in the classroom so early. I'm so tired at the end of the day that I don't feel like I can push anymore. I used to wake up and be able to get some work or think time in before I had to start. Now that's gone, but I don't fe...

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I feel a little scared for you. What if you do all the "right" things and the weight doesn't come off at the speed you'd like? I hope you can find some satisfaction from the discipline and some vitality from the combo of eating moderately and moving. I always feel sexier when I'm eating moderately a...

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Rude, true, but astute.

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That sounds like one of those uncomfortable situations where what's being asked of your daughter is blatantly illegal but it would probably be considered bad form not to participate. Not a team player and all that. But it's not cheap to bake! Maybe she can write it off on her taxes...

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May I suggest you buy the dessert for the potluck. I never bake sweet things unless it is a flagrant failure, where I am flat out bingeing. I guess I could conquer it if it were important to me, but I equate it with too many bad memories of kidding myself. I started to interpret my the justification...

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I also can't imagine not having to put SOME mental effort into what and how much goes on my plate. Since I cook for myself in batches, it's common for me to use measuring cups to serve myself, and sometimes the kitchen scale, though I have gotten the servings of things that are weighed down pretty w...

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Thumb pretty much doesn't hurt anymore, though some of the blood came back after it was drained. I've had several days of overeating. The urges are knocking me over with a feather. Nothing to do but get to the next meal. It could be related to work but I've gone through some very tough times being v...

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What did you do? I was rooting for your NOT making it an S day. It's too easy for work to be a place for multiple reasons to justify S's. But it was your call.

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Thanks for the added observations, TexArk.

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I hope you think your July looked good, because it sure did to me.

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Great observations without it seeming like it's dominating your life.

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Here's to a fantastic August.

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It's fine to weigh, but I gently suggest trying making behaviors the more important measure of success. Just try to imagine: would it be okay with you to have a consistent binge habit if you were thin? I'm so glad for you're accepting that you can have urges but be willing to just stick to your meal...

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Wait, is your husband going to counseling? You said you were excited about going today. (or next Tuesday?) I thought you said you'd be looking for strategies to get him to go. I'd be curious to know what the therapist said about that.

Do you think he is happy in the marriage as is?

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Onwards.

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Merry, if I may, consider making a minimum of 4 minutes of N-day vigorous exercise, plus whatever walking you can fit in, enough for now.That's my goal for August, though I can do more. I'll often just do a search for x-minute HIIT videos and follow along or just use it to time myself while I do som...

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Ooooh, our first summer triumph! Congrats.

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Having your N days be diet-like is pretty common. What's funny is that as time goes on, N day meals might return to some kind of simplicity, but it will be because you just find that's what you prefer, not from some secret sense of being on a diet.

Here's to August!

oolala53

I know it may sound defeatist, but really, a binge every few months is not bad. It's too bad that it's likely really cruddy quality food, but early humans would have probably "binged" every few months, just not on sugar.

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So what if it takes you some effort? Besides, most of the world can't do it.

But it would be nice. I think I would have to lose part of my brain to ever be someone who didn't think about what I eat at all.

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Not bad for eating and pretty darn good for exercise.

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As always, enjoy every bite! Including the love bites...

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Good to hear that you haven't slunk off in shame.

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It's actually been shown that exercise doesn't do much in itself for weight loss, but it has mental and physical health benefits that some people claim are their reasons to lose weight, so it's definitely worth the time. And some people DO find it makes them feel more like eating better food. I know...

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No matter what other influence there is, it is very likely that they also end up eating a fair amount less on average than citizens in heavier countries. Also, if most people never became overweight, they can eat more than formerly overweight people of the same weight. But there could be something m...

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These are fantastic changes! I'm a big fan of whittling away at the extras. If you plunge to the least amount you can stand to eat, there's no place to adjust.

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Honestly. I'd steer clear of talking about No S, especially with people who don't have to do much for their weight maintenance. It just invites criticism and more attention to your habits. Divert!

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I used to feel a bit ashamed of aiming at not having binge foods around, but Wansink's research made me feel better. And early humans had to search long and hard for food, so it's better that we do, too. Slim societies don't keep a lot of food around and certainly not sweets.

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Well, I'm flattered and it sounds about right, though I don't usually talk about sabotage, because it sounds so mean. I don't think we're being mean in overeating. It's just hard to justify the sacrifice if we dont' get something we want more. If weight loss is the only thing we want, it makes it ha...

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Have I really not posted since the 14th? Went back to work. First day with students was Thursday, but it was a short day. Friday, my first full day back I also had to be there an hour earlier than I normally do. The traffic is MUCH worse at that time and in my hurry I slammed the car door on my thum...

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Yes, Americans like a separate house and yard for families. You need density for good public transport. Then Americans need a car to get around and to lug all the food since they won't shop often. It means they also have more food around which encourages more consumption. I don't think people here c...

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It's been about two months? Not very long, really. Are you talking aobut S days only?

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I'm sorry you felt hurt. It's really a shame how much we feel our identity and ability to be accepted by others is so tied to our appearance. It's probably a pretty old biological program that runs deep even though it's not actually very important any more. It's hard to accept that when we bring up ...

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As a practical weight-management strategy, Whatever is deemed healthy must still be negotiated with culture and habit. I don't think in our culture trying to make breakfast big or even the midday meal be the major one will ever be practical because it is socially unsatisfying not be to be able to s...

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I've posted this on some other thread, but I was reading a blog of a woman who married a European man and learned a lot about meal planning and cooking from her MIL. She said she's gotten used to much smaller meals at her husband's insistence! She posted a recipe for a lamb dish that used 10.5 ounce...

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Hate to tell you, but it's likely there will be many times you want the food. Wanting is not necessarily going to go away. You can't know whether holding out or having it under those circumstances is better until you do both. You didn't ask for a suggestion, but I gently recommend on date nights you...

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Exactly!

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I pretty much cut the food at theaters habit even before no ass, and honestly it's still a relief when I go in and know I'm not gonna get anything. Judith Beck says it's when we give ourselves a choice too often that we feel the struggle.

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Wouldn't THAT be something! I'm surprised someone hasn't capitalized on this!

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S., and found a site https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5304a3.htm that's pretty dense, but the stat that stood out to me is that the AVERAGE caloric intake by women in 1971 was 1542. That's what I at times was recommended to eat for weight loss. I know it wasn't the proverbial 1200, but it...

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Yes! I meant to say thanks for coming back to comment. I often worry that people don't get in touch because they're feeling too discouraged or ashamed.

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I'm not a dietician but I would cut WAY back on any refined (low fiber) starches and exercise more for cholesterol issues. I'd probably add fiber and even some good fats.

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I dont' see how people can do everything on their phone. I don't see the same thing on screens and often can't get to linking icons.

But it will pass, you're right 'bout that.

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I'm sorry you have so much that's rough to look back on but it does sound like you've come through it very well. Be very careful of ascribing a lot of negative meaning to binges. If there are painful issues to deal with, please do, but there are physiological reasons people binge, too, most of it ju...

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Shoot, that was a bit of bad luck, but Sick days are exempt. If you didn't use the cookie as an excuse for more, you're ahead of the game.

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Some overeating is par. No out-of-control eating so far is pretty fantastic.

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My chest and stomach went completely hollow when I read your message. I wish there was a way to enfold you in comfort. May your family be healed soon.

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Great new connections in that prefrontal cortex!

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I think that's good sleuthing. Most of the time these days, if I don't feel very clearly drawn to a specific sumptuous-no sweet- food, I opt for quite simple meals. I'll probably have another chance at a later time to eat it, and why insist when it's doubtful what I really need? I eat all kinds of f...

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I think I was down even less than that at this point in my history. I did have some looow days at times, but not to lose more.

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I think you're right. My friend didn't mention it, so I left it out. But I've seen it talked about online. I think the fact that not as much is available and the tradition of not snacking work hand in hand. Though snacking and waistlines are spreading among the younger generation, of so I hear.

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I am on his email list, too. I often don't actually read them, but they're like little reminders of MY version, so I keep the subscription. I noticed that he changed the name of the inner drive to eat. But yes, the NO S book is excellent retraining in thinking. I read it many times and still look on...

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A retired colleague came to visit. He and his wife moved to Italy more than a year ago. He had noticeably lost weight. He said they're still eating plenty of pasta, etc, but they walk more AND there is almost no food available in Italy outside of restaurants and grocery stores. None at gas stations ...

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Nixing the theater food is a big win.

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Stellar overall. Won't it feel good to finish the week green? This is how life can be!

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I don't think I have ever thrown away half a candy bar because I didn't want the rest. Yay for you!

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All of a sudden, gmail identified all my No S emails as SPAM. I did a search for Reinhard's email address to consolidate the most recent emails and nothing came up in my inbox, but there was a note that the address was in trash or SPAM. SPAM? After all these years? But there they all were, about 10 ...

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Even if those changes don't happen, the discipline you gain will make it a lot more likely that you'll be able to stick to any new restrictions that you really believe you have to make. And I hope you'll come to believe you do need to make them.

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https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopi ... 084#183084

Brian Pittman is a maybe.

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Actually, wanting to AVOID your past experiences is what will help you keep things calm. In the beginning, it's often a matter of will that later is just your habit.

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1. Do you have health complications?

2. Realistically, do you have any options besides No S?

3. Do you really believe you are destined to repeat these cycles for another 20 or 30 years?

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If you browse back a ways on the board, I know there have been threads devoted to articles that support limiting S's. I've tried to get them consolidated but new threads push the focused thread down and new stuff goes up independently.. I will say that browsing the board may be obsession OR it may b...

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What happened to Lozy? for that matter, I wonder what happened to the original poster from back in 2011. She posted only 5 times. Was she cured or did the honeymoon end and she didn't know how to stay married? :wink: MM, it's funny how things go. I'm glad your mod is working. I know someone else use...

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Here's to a great second half of 2017. What was your username before? Looks like you made a new profile.

You wouldn't be the first to be able to make it stick after a time away. They might even have a better track record!

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Well, there is no rule, but honestly I would say to just let it go, eat your lunch and dinner, and start over tomorrow. I feel the rhythm of eating at relatively routine windows of time is more important than keeping to three meals. If you really feel you must, load the plates a bit more. Or elect t...

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Hi and welcome, Alaina.

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I'm no doctor but I think that the hunger people feel is actually just the body's gears spinning a bit while it figures out that it needs to shift from using the glucose in the food you just ate to the stored stuff. It just needs practice! Once it taps in, the desire often goes away enough to get yo...

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I'm sorry I haven't responded sooner! I think you don't need to eat more often to keep diabetes away. Just the opposite. I'm no doctor but it seems the most recent emphasis has been on less frequent eating because the body keeps releasing insulin whenever you eat any carb or protein. Fewer eating ev...

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I purposely pushed the envelope of hunger tonight. Usually I do it only during the day, and this started to feel a tinge difficult. I realized an old thought of the unfairness of it started to form, but I also realized that is a false idea. It was the unfairness that made it seem hard. But it's not ...

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I really don't think it's laziness. I think it's just letting the natural human desire to eat and even overeat to mask that you really want something else that you can't get if you keep overeating, and that it's really a fair trade off. It's very easy to think it's unfair that we have to face down o...

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I like feeling I can accommodate adjustments to the routine.

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If I understand it, it's the ratio that's important. I guess you can't access the numbers online? I have Kaiser, and they post all my lab tests. However, for your purposes, it's not bad to truly feel you have a health incentive to decrease the dependence on sweets and overeating. That's what I call ...

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It's a mod, but mods are "allowed." You determine what green is. I do not like dark chocolate and wouldn't "waste" any eating on it. I envy people who find it lovely. But I put cocoa in all kinds of things and add a whoosh of stevia. That's probably not officially okay, either, but here I am. I try ...

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BTW, what was your "good" cholesterol level? My cholesterol has actually gone up to a level I never thought it would, but my ratio of good to bad is very good. My doctor claims my odds of heart disease are very low. However, I don't push the envelope much anymore with the content of my eating. Not e...

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So many members on my Spark team on bingeing really resist the idea of giving up snacks, so fearful that it will MAKE them binge later or inhale their meals, or whatever. It can make them WANT to, but that's not the same thing. (Mostly, I interpret that they just don't want to put up with the experi...

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Yes, we'll all get the book, and start a thread just for it, maybe here.
https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewforum.php?f=9

But I wonder what "bright line" we could use to aspire to.

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I distinguish between hunger and desire. They're quite clear for me. I know most people lump them together and it muddies the water. (Some people literally can't tell the difference. They REALLY need No S and a divided plate.) Most of the time people say they're hungry, they're basically just "jones...

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I'll wave and maybe you'll see me down here in San Diego.

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Welcome to the tribe.

I lived in Denver when I was in the 9th grade, the school year '67-8. It sure seemed big to me, having lived in much smaller places.

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I want to go back to how I felt when I first did No S when I didn't think about food constantly or binge and I was so happy. I actually felt pretty happy with my body. I think I keep putting off starting No S again as I'm 10kg heavier and I know the weightloss will be slow. But it beats continuing ...

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I'm going back to work on Monday and I need to stop arguing with everyone else's kids!

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Kudos and thanks. I'm enjoying the cherries at a late lunch right now,

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Honestly I'd be happy to lose 15 if it would be painless. Wouldn't we all... I hope you're willing to have a little "pain." :P P.S. Consider giving yourself permission to be an idiot on S days until you're really sick of it. It may turn out to be unnecessary, but at least it can help quell the fear...

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hard truth about intake

move to Italy; lose weight?

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