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I've been getting regular about N day 'vigor." Up to 8-9 minutes a day. I worked out a lot harder and pretty regularly through some very poor sleep times. But it might help more now that I'm older. I"m working up to it!

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I've been terribly disappointed by a waning appetite! I've not lost my DESIRE to eat, but it's not as much fun as being HUNGRY and then eating. I complain about it a lot...

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Our school principal has some connections in Tijuana. She organizes a "leftover candy" drive at our school and takes the extra to TJ to distribute to poor kids there.

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It helps, too, when appetite wanes. I'm actually rarely really hungry for meals now, but I know what a reasonable amount of food at a time for me now is. I've been edging that downwards over time.

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Looks so good! Did you have to set up all those icons by hand?

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I must have lousy taste buds. I haven't tasted much that I'd call gross. I still like Caesar's $5 pizza and Mexican fast food. It would probably be an advantage to be more picky. But I trade off by keeping the portion down. Oh, and speaking of special foods, I heard an obesity researcher call them c...

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After you've had your extra hour of sleep, right, Gill? I have a feeling it's going to be just an extra hour of lying awake for me...

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I started the Daily Chat thread so that there was a place that people could keep up with each other. Alternately, or in addition, you could browse the daily check-in threads to see who is more involved. I had been out of it for awhile, but I have a few people whose updates I get. You'll see that on ...

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Was tempted to get some candy corn, of all things, today.I ignored it. Not sure what I"m doing tomorrow, but there will be one event to have candy at, if I still want it. But I doubt it will be candy corn.

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That's so awesome! and kudos for not having gained more than ten pounds since high school. I wish I had understood No S style wisdom back then.

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Here's to a moderate, enjoyable Halloween and a happy Monday.

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Best part is this is all without any appreciable suffering, in fact with more enjoyment!

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Ironchef, I've had quite a few weekends with no sweets because I live alone and don't always socialize on weekends. At first I though it would be dangerous, meaning I would feel it was too hard. But it's not usually an issue any more. I remember that Reinhard said the word "sometimes" about S's so I...

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Sounds like you may have incentive to commit to moderation. You can do it!

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Hoo, boy, was I thinking about Halloween candy this afternoon at work. I would have had to go out of my way to get it, so I didn't. If I had come across a snack size anything, I might have eaten it, too.

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Addictions respond to "harm reduction" tactics, too. Some addicts may eventually decide to eliminate the substance, but it works better when they come to the conclusion calmly, reflecting on their efforts and the consequences in their lives. Contrary to popular belief, there are people for whom alco...

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Mazel tov!

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Before I started No S, I realized that every other time I had lost weight, I had done it during a honeymoon phase. As soon as I started being tempted to not to follow my plan, I was a goner. I saw that I HAD to learn to last beyond the easy part, to say NO when it was HARD. That has paid off. Enjoy ...

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This is great news! I'm glad that it's not putting you off that it hasn't been easy. I love No S so much that people might think that it's a piece of cake. It isn't, but it's so much easier than anything else- for me. I hope it will be the lynchpin for you, too.

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Research shows that most changes in habits are sustained because the person just plain feels better when they do it. If the sacrifice doesn't yield more pleasure overall, it won't likely stick. I believe simply being thin doesn't have that payoff enough hours of the day. Finding the right amount of ...

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I thhink the great thing is that you can start feeling so much better long before you lose the weight. Be sure you have some decent clothes that fit. Don't believe you can't look nice (if that's an issue). You can! And you can FEEL better much sooner.

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Beck admits that her regular program recommendations may not be appropriate for people with an eating disorder. However, she does have some material on emotional eating that is very rational, and I believe, workable. Basically, she says to challenge the thoughts and urges to eat outside your plan, m...

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I wouldn't say so. It has a lot of the same information but arranged differently. It's not a day-by-day program but more the general principles. No S itself plus using her thought strategies to stick with it I believe is plenty. But I"m not sure what you mean by food issues. Do you mean emotional ea...

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PS.I just got a notice that you joined the NoS team on Spark, but I guess you don't have a Spark page. Certainly not necessary, but I would have gone to the page to say welcome!

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Doing okay. But dang, my meals are small. Yet I'm getting enough to satisfy my almost non-existent hunger. Guess I'm not doing enough exercise to turn that around. I guess if it were really important to me, I'd push it more. Speaking of which, I guess I'll get on the rebounder for 10 minutes.

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I feel like St. Augustine, I think it was, who said something like, God save me from temptation, but not yet. You can keep us up on the journey. Just be sure it doesn't give you more reasons that WTH may play a role.

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There's nothing like that first bite off the plate after settling in to enjoy the meal.

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Working around the 3-meal structure seems to be key. Mods to fit one's own life make sense.

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Tough days though there may be, it's very unlikely you'd be any happier any other way. You're doing great.

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Great save! Resisting WTH is major.

Remember that you can be tired, want to eat, and still not eat, just like you can ignore WTH. It can become second nature. At some point, you can have the desire to eat but you'll think, What's that got to do with it?

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Remember not to be too hard on yourself about what you already did. Also, consider that feelings like anxiety don't actually make you eat. A feeling can't make you eat. Only the hand picking up food and bringing it to the mouth can do that. The feeling makes us WANT to do that, but we can always cho...

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Good point about there being no magic formula. When I go through tough phases, I always think in the middle, WHAT is going to stop me? It's never predictable.

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I gently encourage you not to call them cheat meals. How would they be different? Are you restricting your N day meals? I humbly suggest you try having more sumptuous meals midweek as well. Review your reasons for wanting live moderately with food on a daily basis. Spend more time thinking about how...

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Perfect title and it's hard to argue with success. Strictly keeping to your mods and the mnemonic are pure No S. (Hey, that rhymes.)

Kudos and welcome.

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It doesn't have to be an S event if you "virtual" plate-takes honesty- or just keep the food together until you have a whole plate. Use your best habit judgment.

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Reinhard just cautions to pay attention to how much fruit it takes to produce juice. It can be eye-opening to see how many oranges go into a little glass.

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Have the best meals you can! Make them worth waiting for, esp. at the beginning-I mean, the re-beginning. When starting over, it's always good to backtrack a little.

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Congrats on 21 days! Those are also good S's to avoid. standing and sneaking

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Or look the negative consequences when you fail. I concentrate on how it will ruin the next meal. A bit on not liking feeling the food controls me, but I try to avoid much drama around that. Sometimes just getting through the hardest meal gap without failing for a few days can get the ball rolling a...

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Work that resistance muscle! It pays off, even if there are intermittent failures.

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I say it is because you have tripped the wire of old habit. Those neural patterns are very strong and latent. I went through this at 5 years in. What did it for me was trying to meal-skip on N days because my appetite was so low, I wanted to experience more hunger. Also, I secretly wanted to see if ...

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Linda, I'm taking the liberty of posting the links to the two teams I lead. I try to keep the emphasis on the binge free team on moderate eating without rigid dieting or even a big emphasis on weight loss, as that can complicate the process of unhooking from bingeing. Binge Free http://www.sparkpeop...

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After two and a half years, I finally gave in and instituted a mod for S days. Most of my overdoing it was done alone and on sweets. Cookie dough was kryptonite. So I made a rule that I could not have cookie dough and I could not eat sweets unless in the company of others. But I had gotten really ti...

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Two years! Sounds like this marriage will last. And that you've had some fun!

Thanks for letting us know.

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Thanks. No hurry. I was just curious.

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Or you could have stopped at full and seen what happened.

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I keep fresh and frozen veggies, freeze the grains I cook, use commercial sauces, buy cooked chickens, etc. Also just bought frozen fish. Many of my dinners take 15 minutes or less to put together. That may be part of the reason I've been able to wait until dinner.

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If you are putting your food on a plate or in a bowl before you eat, it will limit a lot of standing and eating, since it's unlikely you'll eat from them standing up. And it's really almost impossible to really savor food eaten standing, IMHO.

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You're about three months in? This sounds right about on track.

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Hi, Gill! I just use regular weights and swing them around, along with other moves. That looks nifty. Are you still at it?

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It was fate. Good that you knew to surrender.

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For several of my first Saturdays, I had pancakes drenched in syrup for breakfast. They might as well have been dessert. This would be followed in a few hours by several oz. of milk chocolate. And that was just the morning. Carbs and I had a good thing going. I honestly couldn't stand the idea of ha...

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I do know of Gillian Riley. I even bought one of her books, which is unusual for me. I also felt that she was too vague. She and Geneen Roth, who I loved for years. Last March, I went to a weekend workshop of Geneen's with about 300 mostly low-to-mid-range obese women and boy, did I feel sorry for m...

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In the years since I started No S, so many former binge foods have gotten more expensive. Though the dang dollar stores and Walmart discounted baked goods can still pull me astray sometimes.

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Busy definitely helps me. I wish there were more things I was willing to be busy with!

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Great plans. Me, too.

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I know some people here would like to keep up with each other without necessarily having to look at separate check-in threads. Or have to check the general discussion for new topics. Feel free to use this thread that way, and possibly double post on your check-in thread to keep your messages all in ...

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I think I'll start a daily chat thread here on No S. People can double post on it and their thread, if they want. I read about an American (I think) woman living in France with her kids who went to an event at someone's house where a tray of little chocolates were served. She was embarrassed to real...

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I couldn't have done it without this site and the Living Binge Free team on Spark. I came to the No S team on Spark later, ironically. I am very careful what I look at on Spark because diet head rules there. I've sort of commandeered the LBF team so that there is less emphasis on it. The team has pr...

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I saw a message that you joined the team on Spark, but it didn't show me a link to your profile page, so I couldn't welcome you on the page. Great to see you!

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testing a link I couldn't get to work on another site. It did, but I'm deleting it because it's just a thread here.

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I used the list (for me, it was reasons to eat moderately, not lose weight, but I have) religiously for several months in the beginning. It was pivotal for me. The exceptional self-motivated person doesn't realize that she often has her motivations front and center in her mind. The rest of us have t...

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If your'e maintain without have to be crazy about it, mazel tov. It sounds like it's just a mod. Still probably No S, even if it isn't vanilla. Kudos on maintaining.

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OMgosh, I remember my tax preparer using Isagenix a few years ago when I had been on No S for awhile, certainly more than a year. I actually bought a bottle of something but never finished it. I knew I wouldn't do that whole kit and kaboodle, though. I imagined even one day on it and my insides crin...

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I had to look at it that way many times. I didn't always make those two days, but things still got better.

Enjoy your S days this weekend.

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I could have sworn I posted something on your thread saying I'm flattered that a quip of mine might help someone. No S still IS a great way to stem the tide of food. Even almost six years in, I have that idea come up almost every day- because almost every day, there's such exposure to available food...

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Rawcookie, you have a blog here? Or did you mean your check-in thread? Don't mean to split hairs; I just don't want to miss out.

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In my early days, having such an unsatisfying meal would likely have sent me looking for something else later. Kudos for making do.

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It does seem now that if a person wants to see new stuff here, she has to follow individual check-in threads. Some people have more going on than others. I follow a few, but had gone through a period in which I was posting only the minimum. In one way, I'd like to think I could be "done" with this a...

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One more week to finish out your first month. The beginning of a beautiful marriage, I hope! It really is like a good marriage. There can be easy times and tough times, but somehow, you know you should keep going.

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Welcome to the tribe! This is a great way to live.

What was that article? Can I read it online?

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I'm not sure I ever kept up with anyone very well here, but I do remember things being more active. I guess these things have a lifecycle. I have been posting on Sparkpeople for years. I am the leader of a team called Living Binge Free on which there is a thread that has been going solid for way ove...

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What could be boring about three delicious meals?

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And lower still.

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No, you don't! Good luck.

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I so much prefer chewing my food and getting the pulp/fiber in my body. Not to be argumentative, but I would say the jury is actually out on juicing. This from the Mayo Clinic. http://www.mayoclinic.org/juicing/expert-answers/faq-20058020 and "Do large multi national epidemiological studies bear out...

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Rejiggering can do that.

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Congrats! A real accomplishment.

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Pretty sure we've all done that one.

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Good distinction. Thanks!

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Curious: what's the difference between a near-miss and a fail? Isn't it funny how you would probably never think these days to bring something sweet somewhere on an N day? So many other people take it for granted. I might be wrong but I just can't imagine a French office where there are all kinds of...

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A pretty good deal.

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I hope you're right.

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I think you meant that was pre-No S. You had gotten out of the habit of eating actual meals, no?

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Jumping in. It's usually better for me to establish a bit of a streak and THEN start recording. I haven't found that "committing" ahead of time helps with exercise, which is the habit I'm most concerned with these days. I think I did a minimum vigor (Shovelglove-like) workout every N day this week a...

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Fantastic news! Enjoy the ease.

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The body has its reactions for sure to what we eat and do. It's just not predictable on a day to day basis, I've found. Doesn't matter, if habits are our real goal. But it's also nice to have the trend work downward. if we are feeling good.

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Not overly healthy. I have never sworn off junk food nor fast food, but I'm pretty sure my regular fare is a lot less processed than the average Jane's. It's just evolved. It's the mix and the volume that counts.

Doing great!

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How long have you been at it, alice? Have you ever opted not to have the sweet (since it's not actually required on S days to have an S)?

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step by step. Things will evolve. Try not to let the scale play too big a role.

You've got the perfect opportunity to have two green days before the weekend.

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A great day to start.

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Hi, emdutto. Sorry about your losses this year. I gently suggest you write a list of reasons you'd like to become a moderate eater permanently. Search down deep and see if there aren't ones that have little to do with actual weight loss. In the end, few people can be motivated enough hours of the da...

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natj, I haven't read all your posts, but jumped down here after seeing some posts on not liking your job. I've had a very hard time as a public school teacher, not an ideal match at all, but I floundered until I was 40 and felt I had to commit to something to make some money. I started No S almost s...

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So kind of you to write! Unfortunately, I've been through an anger management course. I was able to apply the techniques for awhile, but it's always a struggle. Unfortunately, once kids have a certain impression, they respond even to an even tone or reasonable request with resentment and I feel rubb...

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Just replied on another thread and it went through just like it used to with no delay.

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I think it's so much more convenient. And you're still in charge of what's on the plate, for the most part.

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I had many of them, many! And they can be incentive to be very moderate, if there is such a thing, on N days. N days become relief!

Fast between meals and enjoy every bite.

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I found the same thing, so have been ignoring the error message. Eventually, the error message stopped appearing, but the post would take a lot longer than usual.

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