Everyday Systems

oolala53

On that note, I'll go walk at the beach to fulfill two of the prescriptions.

oolala53

A few have shown up. They just took a long time.

oolala53

Most of my colleagues were more put off by the idea of not talking than of not moving, but I think they haven't had to sit still much! I gently say that if your thoughts while you are on the move or not were more troubling, you might be more motivated to slow down. Being on the move sounds like it's...

oolala53

Welcome to the tribe. You're doing well! Try not to get too caught up in the minutiae in the beginning. It's easy to feel, like when you're on a diet, that every little detail matters in the beginning, but it's really trends that are important, and they take a few months to a year to establish. I co...

oolala53

Welcome, Allison. No S can really do a lot for you that will have nothing to do with weight loss. You will get over feeling stressed to sit down and eat with others, and eventually realize how sane and civilized it is! You absolutely deserve this. Please go easy on yourself about "yellow" days. It i...

oolala53

Congrats on maintaining while in Croatia, though I suspect you've gotten to the point at which it actually feels better NOT to overeat much on vacation. There is so much more to "fill up" on! It sounds very reasonable to modify your S days since Saturday sounds almost like a work day for you. The or...

oolala53

Wanted to add that I had done shorter (3- and 5-day) versions of this over 18 times in years past with a Zen teacher, though this technique was more specific. And I may have been a bit more ready. I was better at not allowing myself to "wander off" for quite as long as I remembered doing; I realized...

oolala53

Well, the retreat was okay. I already know I can sit pretty still for hours, but it was terribly hard work NOT to get upset at my thoughts, which as I know and as the teachers kept repeating, is counterproductive because thought is perfectly natural! The breath and body focus is meant to balance tha...

oolala53

It's just another message that eating less can't just be for weight loss. It has to be because it just feels better to eat less! Besides, maybe they never thought of you as that heavy? I like weighing less, but I actually feel funny when people make comments because I don't consider myself to be die...

oolala53

That's fantastic! I could never get the hang of it. Kudos.

oolala53

Another member told me a post of mine appeared four times on her thread, but on my side, it never showed up as being posted until she told me, having always yielded a page saying the site wasn't available. And today, I got another comment that a post I tried to make didn't make it. But maybe it did?

oolala53

and again. this is when the site was having problems.

oolala53

Congrats on being one of the few to have calorie-counted your way down and keeping it off. Eating carbs is likely to keep a little water weight on, but that's all it is. I personally don't care if I carry a couple of extra pounds of water distributed in my tissues in exchange for variety of texture ...

oolala53

OOps. double post.

oolala53

Hi, again. Glad to hear of your husband's progress and of your stability with No S. I SHOULD be busy with the rest of my life but somehow get stalled. Maybe today!

oolala53

late to the party again, but happy happy

oolala53

see below

oolala53

see below

oolala53

system error. cannot delete

oolala53

system error. cannot delete

oolala53

Nothing corny about having people there who come through.

oolala53

Think I caught your cold. It hasn't stopped me from eating.

I can understand the "help" issue. My Peace Corps friend's houseboy in Kenya was hired by the school he worked for. But it sounds like there are good options.

You remind me to use up my stores.

oolala53

program error

oolala53

can't delete. program error

oolala53

can't delete. program error

oolala53

program error. can't delete

oolala53

I know why you want to do a cleanse but careful... the pendulum has a way of swinging... and I just did a search on whether or not cleanses lead to long term weight loss. I bet you can guess the results. But maybe THIS time...:) I know at times I lost after periods of stasis when I would go through ...

oolala53

oops, double post.

oolala53

Haven't read all your posts but wanted to welcome you. Also to say that I bought BFFM years ago, as well as some other stuff on bodybuilding. Never got close with that stuff to making a difference in my body, but I did eat frequently for years, even of the right ratios! It never stopped me from bing...

oolala53

Sometimes it takes vacillating to get to the point at which the middle really does feel like the best bet. When the pendulum comes to rest, it's never at either end of the arc.

oolala53

Such a great way to have stumbled on No S. Welcome to the tribe.

oolala53

In case anybody is watching, wanted to say I am leaving today for a meditation intensive and will be incommunicado until Oct. 4. Happy eating, everyone!

oolala53

First, warmest wishes for your father. Next, being repulsed by yourself isn't helping. It's just an old habit that has been paired with overeating chocolate, which is also very old programming. But forgive yourself! You resorted to a comfort habit. It's not a crime. Then it's only the physical react...

oolala53

worked.

The author says the more complicated, the longer it takes. Since people are actually making adjustments along the way, it makes sense that most people say they are still tweaking content years in. Viva tweaking!

oolala53

It's just another way to avoid having to grapple with moderation. You can't overeat bread if you don't eat it at all. Lightweights! But I chose to wrestle bread to the ground and win- most of the time. I admit I"m prouder of being able to eat just one piece of it than I would be of eliminating it. M...

oolala53

I love that a good latte can sustain me for breakfast , if need be. BTW, is it easy to get cooked food if you don't make it yourself? I don't keep up enough to tell if you are based in a big city or not, or what the situation is like. I know a friend of mine was in Kenya in the Peace Corps in the la...

oolala53

Sounsd like you could use some extra sleep! Hope you recover soon. You do more housework sick than I do well! Saw your comment on your husband helping your daughters with homework. That's one of my problems as a high school teacher. They really don't want complete. They want fast and simple. And it'...

oolala53

You're probably right, xara.

oolala53

Hear, hear!

oolala53

A horn that deserves to be tooted if I ever heard one!

oolala53

The link took me to an article about listening. The National Weight Loss Registry reports that relapse doesn't really go down significantly until 2-5 years into implementing a diet plan. The woman who wrote Brain Over Binge who stopped bingeing overnight said it actually took about 9 months before t...

oolala53

I still eat fast food (Mexican, pizza, less Chinese buffets as time has gone on) to this day, and usually opt for it over supermarket convenience foods, with the exception of frozen veggies and commercial sauces, for no good reason. However, these days I usually eat half to a third of the given meal...

oolala53

I'm going to quote a bit from Judith Beck's latest book, "The Diet Trap Solution." from p. 38 (beginning of quote)You absolutely need a reasonable, flexible, nutritious "diet" (quotation marks mine) if you want to escape your traps, lose weight, and maintain weight loss. You won't have long-term suc...

oolala53

It took me much longer than a few weeks to finally decide to institute a mod on my wild S days, but I had to get really tired of overeating, tired enough to go through still having the urges to eat yet ignore them. My brain still came up with annoying body sensations and thoughts that insisted that ...

oolala53

I never went that far, but I did go through a few years in which I felt so stressed and unhappy, and dance was such a surefire way to have fun that it felt like it "saved" me. I guess I could say I '"needed" it, too.

oolala53

I had some reappearance of grazing and semi-bingeing this last year, but have been getting back on track. At the end of the today, Sunday, I found myself wandering in a supermarket considering some of the sweet things I could have bought. I knew if I bought something, I would enjoy the taste, and I ...

oolala53

Funny. I rarely drink any beverage, including water, with my meal. Maybe a few sips or more in hot weather. I no longer need to get any fuller than I do.

Sometimes a cafe au lait between meals. Yes to water and flavored waters. Not much else these days.

oolala53

Xara, 140 miles? You must have really wanted to dance!

oolala53

A sweet.

oolala53

Boy, I sure dropped the ball with you. So sorry! However, you've been at it! I hope it feels easier at least some of the time.

oolala53

I count on cooling off my place by opening doors out onto a deck and the back door. (They're only ten feet apart.) Twice this summer I've had a possum come into the house! Once it was behind me, meaning it some walked all the way past me sitting at the computer and into the kitchen! That possum hear...

oolala53

Great experiences to put "in the bank."

oolala53

Oh, it would only be for those who are interested. I hope to be through with implementing mandated education. I took a career test over 25 years ago that said that I should concentrate on an area of intense interest and have people come to me for my expertise. I didn't know what that might be back t...

oolala53

I've read that Middle Eastern women in places like Kuwait and Qatar , already some of the heaviest in the world, are gaining weight with the influence of fast food restaurants and a culture that promotes frequent eating and full-bodied women. Some are also suffering higher incidences of diabetes and...

oolala53

I lived in Iran for a few years. Yeah, I wouldn't have asked to take some home there. I did sometimes see people take food offered and then not finish it, more often women than men. But the pressure there to eat was much greater than here. And less pressure NOT to be chunky! But it would be a dilemm...

oolala53

I read one similar, I believe, last year. It basically said humans have thrived on a variety of combinations of food types, so there is no one best diet. I suspected as much already. I've said here many times I"m not a purist, meaning even though No S has a bias for unprocessed food, I still eat fas...

oolala53

The Solution was the book I read. It's one of the few I've kept, even though I rarely look at it. But I like her distinction between light and luscious foods. Her recommendation that if we can't really determine what luscious food we really want and feel will work for us for the situation involved, ...

oolala53

P. S. The statement you made on 9/2 about suffering reminded me of a term a nurse named Laurel Mellin used in a book I read back in 1997. She said we have to determine if we are willing to â€œbear the essential painâ€ of dealing with not getting to eat all we ate before. Sometimes itâ€™s the pain of...

oolala53

Wrote you a private message, as it got into all the messy stuff on weight loss goals. If you don't want to hear devil's advocate stuff, and I can very much accept that, as I'm not willing to listen to many people tell me I should be counting and tracking and weighing myself, just delete it without e...

oolala53

You have been quite a trooper! I hope it's feeling like it's paying off.

oolala53

Sorry I haven't been keeping up. We started back teaching on July 20. Good news is we have two weeks of school and then a two-week break.

And I understand possibly why you haven't been posting. The beginning of the school year is just darn busy! Hope No S has been supporting you.

oolala53

Sorry for the belated thanks for such warm wishes! I'm feeling better. Have had a few sane weeks. I've been realizing I have to take the bull by the horns in terms of my problems at work. I just have too many interactions that leave me smarting for hours afterwards, sometimes all night. I am startin...

oolala53

You'll be coming up on another three months soon. I hope we'll hear an update. I, too, wish I could apprentice in your kitchen! Someone here in San Diego had a meetup group for years that was supposed to be about learning to cook Indian food. They never posted one meeting and the group closed. I was...

oolala53

Yeah, I was talking from an ideal I have for myself. I find I get agitated being around people who pick a lot. And I have a really hard time on the inside for people who vacuum their food. It's really all I can do sometimes not to either laugh, sneer, or even tell them to slow down! None of those ar...

oolala53

You are preachin' t the choir here, but I never get tired of it. Your beef (pun intended) with veganism is exactly my beef with most diets and eating plans: what large populations live that way? I feel like a maverick enough just with No S. I used to live in the Third World and traveled in offbeat p...

oolala53

Funny how after the unplanned sweets you had seconds later. I have found that old habit kick in, too. I don't think it's always WTH. I think the body just likes the feeling again. Those situations can be very tough. I wonder what would happen if you had insisted that you be able to take some with yo...

oolala53

Although I have gotten derailed a bit by being off-schedule, so to speak, I've also been able to stay with it in unusual circumstances often as well by appealing to my inner moderation, which I regard akin to the inner drives of thin people, who tend to navigate most sitations in a way that keeps th...

oolala53

Bonnie, with all due respect to your husband, it sounds a bit anti-social of him to insist on eating later rather than meeting in the middle for you. Under the circumstance, I can see splitting the evening meal into two parts, as it sounds like you have intuitively done. Maybe there's a way you coul...

oolala53

I kept some smaller clothes and did eventually fit back in. They weren't the real incentive, but it was a delightful payoff!

oolala53

Just had to add this as it came up on another page.

Not an ad! Just presenting a book title proposed to me in an email.

Thou Shalt Not Eat: How Diet Gurus and the Media Use Bad Science to Make You Fat, Fearful, and Coming Back for More.

oolala53

5.75 years here. Agree with all you say. Weight loss was not the incentive, though it has happened. Just want to be able to enjoy eating! It's really not enjoyable to eat all day.

You'll likely learn lots more over the next couple of years.

oolala53

Comma, not sure how you'll feel about this, but I had very good luck finding quite cute clothes (ones I got compliments on) while heavier at thrift stores. That way I got clothes that were comfortable/fit and didn't feel I was wasting my money because of course i wasn't going to be that big that lon...

oolala53

Also, and this might be getting too deep into things. but entertaining feelings of shame for long is PART of the overeating cycle. They actually make the cycle stronger. They are like the overeating. That's why in habit theory, it is said to give very little dramatic energy to failure. Calm, rationa...

oolala53

Consider another tablespoon or the equivalent of a good fat along with protein. It's condensed enough not to make you feel bloated and, for me, just seems to blend with the other nutrients so that I feet full longer between meals.

oolala53

Okay, I gently say that you have a lot of diet head going on here. This is about a lifestyle that you have to adjust to, not a diet you're going on. To be worrying on day three is diet head. You won't be shamed into eating less. It will be more of a body awareness thing. It isn't always completely a...

oolala53

A member of another "eating" group I belong to just started a program for binge eating disorder at a center in her native Netherlands. I was appalled to read (she is, too) that she is REQUIRED as part of the program (12 weeks, I think) to commit to their eating plan, which consists of eating six tim...

oolala53

Just goes to show. If we base most of our eating on unprocessed foods similar to the ones eaten back when meal-eating was the norm, and forget all the small studies, or even most diet studies, we're probably going to be fine.

oolala53

dark chocolate works to reduce sweets for me because I don't like it. But it hasn't done anything for my still loving milk chocolate. I just choose not to have much at a time or often.

oolala53

This is good thread, too. It's supposed to be what people keep around to make it easy to have decent meals.

http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1732

oolala53

6. red meat

But I don't watch cooking shows. Most of my brainwashing comes from reading.

oolala53

He might even be better at it than you are. My mom was very tidy and so is my sister. My brother is a pathological horder. I'm messy. I'm not lying to make myself sound better. But Mom never taught any of us. It's very hot here. Hard to imagine going into the tough areas. MAYBE I'll deal with some p...

oolala53

The losses can come in fits and starts, and even the ease can, too, but it's just so sane!

oolala53

Did you start a check in thread? Let me know on mine. Then, I'll "subscribe" to it. I think that's the easiest way to be buddies.

oolala53

Welcome back! and congratulations on having maintained a 48-lbs loss for three years! But be careful purposely planning not to take S days. It smacks of dieting to reach a certain weight, not developing a lifelong habit. Now, if you get to a Saturday, have no event that is S worthy, and feel very co...

oolala53

The variety of food that slim cultures thrive on is generous. There really seems to be room for everything...in moderation.

oolala53

I would say something like, Oh, my gosh, I'm so full! I wish I wanted more, but it just doesn't sound good. Or, it would be wasted on me at this point. Or, Maybe I'll have it later. If threatened with its not being there later, say so be it. And stall. Keep changing the subject! Sometimes, I would e...

oolala53

I've already had breakfast on this S day, but now spicy pork noodle sounds pretty great. I find that sometimes eating a small amount can make me feel stuffed and other times a large amount of even dense food feels like almost nothing. It's just not predictable anymore. Your friend's husband sounds a...

oolala53

I wonder if a hypnotist could make a person believe, for even a short time, that she never had a problem with food. I'm still dickering over it. Could not make myself wait for regular lunch time after getting off work early. Then ate way more food than usual because I didn't insist on getting it cut...

oolala53

Wow. I know my pattern used to be to eat most of my calories from late afternoon on, but I always knew I was doing it.

Whatever the cause, I hope you find some help. Are you attempting to use No S while you work on it?

oolala53

Oh, I meant to say, I'm no expert, but I'd say crying over not eating sweets for several days is a perfectly acceptable reaction, at least at first. Yes, there likely will be a lot of tension in not giving in to the withdrawal cravings, and in privacy, crying is a decent enough release. I would bet ...

oolala53

I just read today the comment of a woman who lost her weight years and years ago. She said she still sometimes gets longings for food in the afternoon or at night even after years of maintaining without a lot of slips. (Some people can maintain slim bodies with pretty outrageous eating habits. ) But...

oolala53

Your reaction to other people eating is probably temporary, and just what you need for now to help you create your own slim culture on the inside.

oolala53

And I bet you felt a lot better an hour later. Yet you still got to enjoy bread!

oolala53

Don't know if they really consider potatoes to be vegetables. Technically, I guess so, but I don't really think that's what nutritionists have in mind. I'm shocked by Alaska beating out many continental states, since its growing season is 20-50 days shorter than many other states'. https://www.googl...

oolala53

Consider the possibility that you could get by with the travel day as a regular N day figuring in three meals over the course of the hours of a regular day with coffee/tea breaks on flights or in airports. It could be an experiment in disrupting the "pattern" that disruptions in routine have to mean...

oolala53

good insight about it being overdue. And likely unpleasant enough that you'll see the signs before it gets out of hand next time. I think your relatively sane behavior (comparatively speaking) about food before you started No S will help you get over wild S days faster than I did.

oolala53

Once in awhile. I bet you're over it now.

oolala53

Just keep working on being as honest as you can be about how much food is enough. It can be hard to face how little it takes, but there is a sacrifice either way. And perhaps another year of even more solid habits at home will make it easier to carry your environment with you- in your head. Believe ...

oolala53

After more than five years, I had an idiot S day yesterday, too! Actually just a big fail day.

oolala53

Preachin' to the choir... at least this member!

Though I'm not even a fan of the "healthy" goal, as people can get SO caught up with the minutiae.

I still love Reinhard's emphasis on moderation. Moderate food. Moderate exercise. Those two will take care of 80% of the health problems.

Everyday Systems

Search found 10047 matches

still having trouble posting?

Latest Judith Beck book

a BEC program

graphic on vegetable/fruit consumption