Everyday Systems

oolala53

Haven't read all the replies, so I may be repeating. Reinhard did not start out with a weight loss goal in mind. His goal was moderation. That plus instituting a regular moderate exercise program took him to a weight he has maintained for more than a decade, I think, with no changes. Eating less to ...

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I highly recommend a strategy very common in cognitive behavioral treatment. WRITE DOWN two lists: one of the reasons you don't like the behavior you are trying to change, the negative consequences, and the second of the benefits you will get from the behavior you want to practice. I can tell you th...

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superfasty?
http://everydaysystems.com/bb/search.ph ... Superfasty

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Sorry to hear of your loss, but glad to have you back "home" with this very kind, smart, and portable way to live. BTW, I started No S at age 56, 5"5", and 185. I'm not as thin as some, and heavier than many of my peers dream of being, but it is relatively effortless to maintain. I, too, have had so...

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agreed.
http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic ... 580#158580

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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:27 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Once Bernard Shaw was having a walk when some harum-scarum cyclist ran into him and Shaw fell to the ground. The cyclist was very sorry and came off his bike to help Shaw get on his feet. Fortunately Shaw was not hurt. The cyclist apolo...

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I wonder who the intended audience was...

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Not to bogart this, but if tea time with your mother is the only time you deviate from Vanilla, you're doing pretty darn well!

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Eating serenity now!

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I think Brightangel might agree that calorie counting (and all it takes to adhere to limits) is a hobby, since her site is called Diet Hobby. I got to the point at which I thought of it as a part-time job, not a hobby. Just unpaid. I'm a bit of a hypocrite in that I've spent just about as much time ...

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Paleo is so huge but it boggles my mind. I wonder how many people are actually implementing it and sticking with it. I can't believe how many people I come across touting its benefits but talking about the chocolate chip cookies they had last weekend-- NOT paleo cookies. Hey, people, either it's sat...

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Abooth, is it a strip + 7-minutes? Almost nudity AT THE END?

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If you're really not a sweet person, that could work, but if you work in the office with the same people, and they ever see you eat a sweet or talk about a dessert, you will likely hear about it. And if a person is heavy, very few people really believe that they aren't a sweet person, though they'll...

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On another site, there is a woman who has been posting as long as I have (more than five years) on a binge-free team. She's been quite successful. She just recently advised the relative newbies to be okay with imperfect compliance while they move toward a goal. She used and uses the principles of Ma...

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Try to pump up your self-acknowledgement for the far fewer red days and far less significant fails. Habit theory claims that reinforcement for any little improvement is what helps shape the behavior. That and hanging tough- kind but tough- when the urges are the greatest. It's definitely worth it!

oolala53

Sparkpeople has TONS of free workout videos. I think the shortest ones are ten minutes. Of course, you can search youtube by the number of minutes you are willing to work out, too. And this 7-minute workout can be repeated. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/09/the-scientific-7-minute-workout/?_r...

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Not to complicate things, but here is another link I posted on another thread, but seems appropriate here. I think it would be good to keep things consolidated.

http://neilarey.com/workouts.html

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Just saw this. Maybe it will inspire:
http://dailyburn.com/life/cm/ob-15-minu ... hris_Story

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A sign of the times: back in the 70's, I believe, Laurence Morehouse, fitness consultant on the space program, claimed that we should all be on our feet moving around as befits our needed activities at least 2 hours a day. Housework for those who are not used to it would surely have to make a dent i...

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Wow, from heartburn to a stint. I do hope your husband finds his way to supportive habits, if any will help him.

Do your best for yourself. You're the only one who can.

Warmest wishes to you both.

oolala53

I have been doing decently well since last I checked in and was going to get on and tell everyone that. Then I had a binge today! Oh, well. I don't feel too bad about it. I had talked myself out of something like it on the weekend, and was feeling fine about it, but then I was craving a bean and che...

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walkerlori, you would have made a great Spartan woman!

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gingerpie, I'll jump in here! I've heard that it does get automatic, but I suspect that is rather idealistic. When you look at world statistics, we see that in just about any place populations get widespread access to food, the population becomes overweight or at least at the higher levels of the BM...

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Good job, Berry!

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I love that you said not to give up sugar just for weight loss. It's just too precarious to try that. Odds are people won't do it long run, and they'll feel they've failed again when they start eating it. However, if a person has really gotten to the point at which she's seen over and over that she ...

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On the Sparkpeople No S Diet team I lead, a new member posted her enthusiasm and some S's she added: SAVOR 3 full-plates a day Be SELECTIVE - Make SMART, SENSIBLE choices SKIP the SUBSTANDARD STOP when you are SATISIFIED (not STUFFED) STEP it up (get moving)! STICK with it! Some of it may be prematu...

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I missed for a few weeks. the weight scale issue is old news. but I want to say, just consider that instead of checking in with a scale during the holidays, check in with appetite and hunger a little more, just out of curiosity and honesty. I bet if you got used to doing that, calmly, no drama, it w...

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I think the point is that the advice is too inexact. How does a person eat less? What are the conditions that make that a sustainable habit? Same with moving more. I just saw a link on CNN about "how to really lose weight." (You mean as opposed to phonily losing weight?) Some famous health commentat...

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You mean there is nothing possible in between N days and Stomach Ache S days? As someone else said, when it gets more painful to keep overeating than to choose not to, it will weaken the pull. The pull will not go away, but it will seem more doable to let it be there while you go about your business...

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Hi, Noel! Sorry you got waylaid, but honestly, I've seen that No S IS the best foundation for stressful times. It decreases stress for me to have a system that allows so much! If I'm really feeling raw, I can choose to have some heavier meals. And I'm never sorry I waited for that next meal. Now tha...

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"fruitless joyride" What a great metaphor!

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Here's another one! Do what you need to do to stop smoking! The whole point is to avoid behaviors that lead to mindless overconsumption. I assume you will be aware of any urges that come up to bend the other rules and realize they are just the lozenges- and possibly the lack of appetite suppression ...

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Congrats on maintaining at least about 30 lbs. lost! I'll bet you remember some of the more delightful meals that got you there. I have to admit I learned what meals I actually preferred most of the time from a couple of diets I had been on in the past. I used those a lot unless I started to feel li...

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May I just suggest that there is value to facing down the deprivation/ rebellion layers that gets elicited by the "rules." Those are what bring up the sense that you crave sweets more or are handicapped by not getting to have seconds. Ask for strength to face the urges rather than to be delivered fr...

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I definitely think I was convinced that it was somehow dangerous to my psyche and possibly even my body to use my will to eat less. That held me back for years!

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I was curious to know with all the talk of snow. I should have known that wouldn't be enough to stop you.

So, still about an hour's walking plus 10 flights of stairs.

Keep up the good work.

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Can't believe no one has asked: Are you walking to work these days, Reinhard?

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Bjalda, when I started, I had to see that I had spent DECADES on eating stuff and still didn't have it handled satisfactorily. I dragged my feet for over a year on No S. Sometimes repeated failure can actually eventually galvanize your intention. It's definitely worth a year of faithful attempts. If...

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I put the bowl of soup on a plate and tuck around it whatever else I want to eat, even if I have to cut it up to fit! Depending on the soup, I may have half a sandwich, but possibly also salad and fruit. Any drink with more than a teaspoon or two of sugar is probably a sweet, but if you drink only o...

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Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I found this site and it looks like there's enough variety that it should be accessible at any point. Perhaps click on a workout, set the timer, and do what you can for that amount of time. Make it short to start. You can always add more. http://neilarey.com/work...

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I've been known to say that No S isn't necessarily easy. It just turns out that most other eating plans are worse. Rather like Churchill's saying "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.â€ Well, maybe not that harsh.

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I found one of the alternate company offerings of bungee rebounders on eBay for less than a quarter of the price of the super duper expensive one. But I wouldn't say I've gotten my money's worth for it yet. Don't wait for one to get going! I gently suggest searching on the net for 4-minute, 5-minute...

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Annie, I don't know about losing ten pounds, but I do know that this is a sane way to live. No one starves or is really deprived getting to eat three sweet-free meals of foods of their choice every week day!

I fell way off the wagon my first few tries, but it's stuck now for five years.

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tFrom "Stop Overeating For Good," by Balasa L. Prasad, M. D. The stomach, digestive juices, and the autonomic nervous system, which controls the propulsion operation of the stomach and colon, were prepared to receive food at frequent intervals. When this did not happen, the rapidly contracting empty...

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Yes. Around the 20/21 of March, June, September, and December. The seven days can overlap those dates in any way. It's semi-formal. But I cannot tell a lie. I do sometimes weigh in between. It rarely makes a difference in my behavior, except for ghosts of the old judgement pattern. But then I revert...

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I actually weigh for seven days around the turn of the seasons. Then I average the weight and record that. I haven't done it for six months I think because I was wobbling in my compliance. I'm more steady now, so I'll record around the beginning of spring. I actually don't need scales or pants or an...

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Regarding exercise, I've had fits and starts, and can claim only a tentative start. I was doing 4 minutes on N days for a few weeks at various times over the years then nothing. But since the new year, I've been doing minimum 11 minutes of various vigorous movements, mostly bodyweight exercises, als...

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Excellent! Really enjoying the days is so essential. If you mean, did you end up balancing out your calories so that you didn't eat less this week, well, even if that happened, I don't think that undoes the good of five days on compliance. Take the long view, if you can. It's partly diet head that's...

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I predict that after a few months of strict moderation of N days, your Fridays will feel different. If you eat a bit of a celebratory lunch and dessert with your mom, a small munchie with your hubby while you watch a movie could easily be both dinner and movie snack. Don't be afraid to eat less ofte...

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It sounds like you are in the right state of mind for success. Desperation can fuel resolve. It is amazing what people can do when the right things are at stake. And you know you don't have to get thin to reap most of the health benefits. You can aim for more loss, but see if it can just be the logi...

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You are only one week in! It will likely take a good year to learn the ins and outs. If you really fear hunger, I recommend not cutting down too fast. But I also recommend practicing eating more slowly so that when you do test the waters, you can force yourself to still eat slowly even when you are ...

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When dealing with disordered eating, it's important to bring some kind of order. Diets usually bring either strict calorie order or food choice order, but they haven't worked very well. Slim cultures use another kind of order: meal frequency and meal routines. They don't usually eat randomly or graz...

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Wow, that is quite a resource, subhayu. Thanks.

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Bravo!

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On Urban Ranger today: Milestone: Five

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:28 am Post subject: Reply with quote
it is hard to understand I was studying.

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Emotional/binge eating was my issue when I joined over 5 years ago. I had tried many other non-diet approaches, as well as a few diets over my 40 years of stumbling. I'm biased but I can honestly say objectively that No S incorporates just about all the principles of how to deal with a disordered ea...

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In case you're wondering how not to think about it: put food on a plate three times a day and savor it. Allow yourself to plan enough to shop for groceries for common meals or get prepared food. Let yourself think and plan about 30 minutes a day average, max for now. Force yourself to keep dropping ...

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Though the same tactic backfires for most people (research shows shamed overweight children weigh more two years later), the rest of the article- sober info- is going to be preaching to choir here. But since there's a lot more preaching on the other side, I'll take it where I find it. http://www.huf...

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No, the bubble wrap is a daily reward, something small. With all due respect, thinking I had to get to my wedding weight to merit renewing my vows might not get my motor running... but that's me. Also, I weigh now what I weighed when I graduated from high school, but I have a feeling I couldn't fit ...

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Just to remind you, having S Sundays IS being on plan. In addition to the blog, I highly recommend coming up with some stock things to say to yourself when the thoughts and urges to deviate come up. Also, a list of the reasons you think this is such a good way to live and why you want to give up ove...

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When are you going to start aging? Kids are the only proof time has passed.

Thanks for the update. Next year, we have to see the midriff area. Clothed is fine, if decorum is required.

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Welcome home. It is absolutely worth it to surrender to the process. Others have made the shift and had it stick even after failures. In fact, many many eventual long term loser/maintainers failed several times before they really settled in for the REAL long haul. I affirm this will be YOU.

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Not to toot my own horn, but I suggest you reread my post of Dec. 10. Do not judge yourself by the exceptions. There is nothing messed up about you just because you can't eat like your sister. What the IE people won't admit is that people like that are the EXCEPTIONS among humans. If that wasn't tru...

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oolala53

I don't mean to imply that there aren't people who can rely pretty exclusively on intuition for their calorie intake and stay slim. I think those people exist in all cultures, and they seem to be adjustable to the culture as well. Even here, naturally skinny people will often wait to eat meals at me...

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Oh, if those "just one cookie" stayed just one cookie, we wouldn't be here. You've had many wonderful cookies in the past and will again! Good for you for supporting habit, not whim.

I used to freeze office goodies and enjoy them on the weekend, but even that habit faded.

oolala53

Congrats!

Even before No S, I often noticed that I could rarely impose goals on myself, yet I sometimes saw in retrospect some impressive streaks.

However you got to 21 days, the habit-building potential is still in the "savings" account!

oolala53

Wow! Given how close you are to "goal" weight, losing as much as you did is quite a feat!

Here's to continued moderation.

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I excerpted this: The context in which you eat is important and habit forming. Eating at regular times can help reduce irresistible feelings of hunger. Quick diets won't make you feel less hungry, but changing habits can help reduce hunger. Make small, long-lasting changes to diet and exercise. Stic...

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BTW, just took the test as if I hadn't done No S. 38% Constant Craver. 37% Emotional Eater.

Then I took it again answering what's true now after 5 years of No S. Result: "you are not in any diet category."

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ZERO emotional eater. Holy moly. Yet it is possible. I think Reinhard would have put himself in that category. He states that he knows nothing about it. Goes to prove what I've been saying on my other eating site: previous dieting and emotions are not the only reasons humans overeat. No matter what ...

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Could you not get sheet protectors that you could slide index cards into? You could have more than one on a page or just one. Yeah, a card would look small, but it's an option. I used to lust after sheet protectors to "file" papers into and arrange in binders instead of using files in drawers. All I...

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I love being occupied enough to get ravenous once in awhile!

It's amazing how powerful three good days in a row can feel.

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I did weigh myself in the first year, but I don't think it helped my loss. It never has, though I know the stats in the States claim it leads to more loss. I never held back because the scale was up. I also know that people in slim cultures do not weigh themselves, nor do they know the calorie conte...

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Haven't had time to read yet, but No S has allowed me to LOVE food while learning not to overdo it, which is what slim cultures do.

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I went to a testing organization called the Johnson O'Connor Research Foundation in my mid-30's. They actually recommended against the eventual work I chose, public school teaching, and foresaw that I would not be happy in it. I'm not. Boy, did they call it! I won't go in to the particulars of how a...

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Nice work. I'm glad your mods have helped you feel that you are in control.

I'm always curious what percentage weight loss certain amounts represent for people.

Here's to your continued success, no matter what mods you use.

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Not sure if there is a question asked? Do you want feedback? I know you are struggling, but I affirm you can get from meal to meal without eating, though you may have to build up to it. Perhaps a week of just getting from breakfast to lunch? Or lunch to dinner? It can be motivating to build some suc...

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If I may say something, I'll share an idea that I would think at moments of temptation when I first started. But first, when I started, I had gotten very clear that if I didn't absolutely surrender to No S or something like it, I was likely going to overeat for the rest of my life. I couldn't hide f...

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I find the biggest issue is what to do when I'm not eating, working, surfing the net, watching TV, or shopping. It's pitiful how little else I find diverting. Now, if I loved to clean, oh my gosh!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:57 pm Post subject: It accept to Buy Fifa Coins

On the Shovelglove board, thread called Just some support

oolala53

Welcome! Reinhard would be the first to say that health conditions trump No S, but I doubt there'd be an issue with the three meals. Because of your liver issue, though, you may have to limit what you put on your plate more quickly than others. It's nothing to be messed with! I doubt you have to be ...

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Gaining a lot of weight during pregnancy seems to be rather cultural. Some cultures know that babies grow well even when mothers eat very moderately during pregnancy; there's little danger you will eat too little. Though it's not considered smart to traditionally diet, it is okay if eating moderatel...

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Heather, unfortunately having to examine how I have NOT been able to form a group of compassionate friends in my life is one of the areas of deep concern. I just can't afford to panic about it. I wish I felt I have more in common with the average person, but I don't. Although I used to attend a Zen ...

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It was quite something to see that heatherhikes had used quotation of mine in her signature area regarding being kind to ourselves. Right this minute, it makes perfect sense and seems it should be completely doable, but those feelings when they come up are much more painful than even the strongest d...

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I'm going to bet that a flavored coffee is not going to be a problem, especially if it's not highly sweetened. If it helps in the future, it can be good to frame possible problems by asking yourself "Would eliminating this likely solve my problem of excess?" Or "Is this my main problem?" Enjoy every...

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Well, easier said than done, in the sense of feeling like I'm playing a game. The time in between the meals- specifically last night and this morning, even up to now- hasn't been very game-like. A friend did a tremendous amount of work to help me get a new computer and set up to do something that re...

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You've hit the nail on the head for the possible value of failures: seeing what is fair to ask of ourselves in this moment as well as getting more clear about what we want to accomplish- in this case, surrendering to living WITH food, not at war with it. I guess thase lesson never goes away. They ju...

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Good point! I hadn't even thought of that one. Oh, how the fake-hunger mind can mess with us!

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Moderation isn't the word I picked this year, but it's a good one. I need to be much more moderate in my "shoulds." I think I know the feeling you mean when you aren't adhering to some precise guideline for N days. Actually, that's the feeling I had when I even considered not being able to binge on ...

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One of the first things you might need to do is gently let go of the idea of being guilty of idly eating and drinking. It's natural to want to relax with food sometimes. Slim cultures do it; just a lot less often than we do. They also are less likely to do it to get really full or the like. You'll l...

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This morning, I had this thought fest about how much morality we feel is tied up in eating, exercising, and how we look. It's so serious! I thought about how if we were just talking about a hobby, like ceramics or city league soccer, would we be examining our behavior so carefully and ruminating ove...

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I'm groovin' with your choices, zippadee. No surprises, with your username.

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Dang, I'm gettin' old! I meant to say "Thanks for your kind comment." !!!

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Not having losing weight as a goal doesn't sound weird to me at all. I didn't come to No S for that, though it has happened, and it can wear on me that that's what drives most of the interest. I like Ellyn Satter A LOT, though I don't know her work deeply. I've seen the fat nutritionist's site, and ...

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Oh, for an eating regime that would stop the anxiety. Or that that counting thing would work. I've done a lot of techniques over the years, but sleep remains an issue. It's better, but I ascribe that to having completed menopause. And man, am I grateful for my body going back to sleep after the nigh...

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Thanks for kind of comment. I had a bit of a run in with someone in person this afternoon, so they hit the spot. At least I can fool people online!

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Bernard Jensen, an alternative health practitioner from way back used to say we should wait to eat until we had "the keenest desire for the plainest food." That's a bit of an extreme ideal, but just like your telling yourself that if you were really hungry, carrots would satisfy, it sure puts things...

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Hasn't your husband already seen you using No S for quite awhile? Or have you been "modding" so much that he didn't even realize what it was? Or you used to talk about other plans so much that you decided to keep quiet about it?

On another note, hope you keep having fun on this New Year's jaunt!

oolala53

I was looking for an old thread and ran across this one. I didn't read the whole thing, but am posting it here anyway.
http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=10209

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