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I'd like to see the research. I guess it's possible that the differing levels of estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone could make a difference. I do know that Brad Pilon, the author of Eat Stop Eat, has never talked about a distinction. Then again, he may have never stopped to look. But I'm prett...

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Is it a public school at which there are so many choices for English? Amazing!

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I considered going for teaching community college, but getting a Masters just didn't sound attractive on its own OR for a career in which (at that time) only 11% of the teachers were full time with benefits. Plus, I felt so done with work that I had to be piecemeal about. I'll never know if it would...

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I did teach IB English 12 for three years. At our school, the students are rather bamboozled into taking the class, so a lot of them are doing it against their will and are looking to do the least amount of work possible. I would typcially have half or more of the class not do the reading assignment...

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Dieting is not the only thing that a can bring on compulsive eating. What is unlikely is that it represents any real need, even nutritionally. The cure is the same, though it can sometimes help to have a way of interpreting experience so that we choose the supportive way. It's likely that no matter ...

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Might as well. It can't damage you! And you're now learning what to do when something is hard.

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I think putting the foods to go into the smoothie on a plate beforehand gives a more realistic view of what you are eating. The visuals can be very important, and are much harder to tell when the foods are already chewed up, as they are in a smoothie, in essence.

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auto, responding to your post on Deb's thread, saying that you have repeated desires to snack pop up, but that it's just easier now to say no: Thanks for the info! And I'm a little glad to hear it. I sometimes think my thoughts still go to food so often because I don't have as much going on in my li...

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Don't mean to belabor this, but following up on your thread on the general board... When you say that "fence around the law" and being strict about moderation are reasons you're being able to stay compliant, are you aware that thoughts about these pop up in the day and help you stick to your meals? ...

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You're right! I mis-remembered. YOu did say 70 bites a day, which would account for 20-30 minutes per meal.

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You are too kind! BTW, what do you mean by "3) invisible boundaries and strictness"? Do you find that eating "enough" at meals actually makes you desire food less in between meals, or does it just helps you justify not giving in to snack-thoughts when they come up? Because honestly, unless I am extr...

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Deb, it's not just you. Americans in general rush eating. Even thin people do, in my experience. I have thin friends who gobble their food. When I ask if we're in a hurry, they'll say, "I was just hungry." Yet they don't necessarily eat all that's there. But thin people are now the exception in our ...

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Scott Adams is not the only one saying worry about process. Reinhard has been saying it since the beginning. Consistent moderate eating and exercise will net a healthy body for most people no matter what its appearance. Of course, exceptions will occur, but it's hard to find them if we don't get the...

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I have read that heavier people don't feel as free to appear in public in French cities, so even though they occur (to a much smaller degree than here), you don't see them as much. I have also read that English women are actually happier with their bodies than French women, though their average weig...

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I wasn't going to take Christmas as an S day because I was going out with just one other person and I doubted we'd want to overdo it. I was right; we were too full to order dessert, which was good because we didn't think anything looked that good. But I had some mini cupcakes and Christmas cookies I...

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You can actually wait for the cheesecake to thaw?

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Was Wednesday an S day for you?

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I drive myself more crazy NOT cleaning.

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Welcome home! I humbly suggest that you say to yourself that it might be irritating, frustrating, and or uncomfortable to give up emotional eating on N days, but it is very doable- and desirable. I was an emotional eater (still am sometimes) and I participate on another board devoted exclusively to ...

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I doubt you are a perfectionist in everything, and throwing in the towel upon failure to eat less is actually very typical. Remember? That is what the what-the-hell effect is. Or here, crashing the car after you get a dent in one fender. (A new one I saw is throwing the rest of a carton of eggs on t...

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Thanks for the ideas! Maybe I'll get very picky at some point. With all due respect to your grandmother, if she was eating very little and always longing to eat more, it's not something I aspire to. When I was bingeing, I had to come to term with the fact that I had the desire to eat even when I was...

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I still sometimes use the freezer trick. For less perishables, I've sometimes left them in the truck of my car! I have forgotten at times they were even there.

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auto, our postings must have crossed. For years on No S, all I had to do on N days to feel hunger was wait for my meals. Then the hunger started to go away. As I said, hunger was a real motivator and reward for a long time. It made me feel I was in touch. So I'm trying to learn how to live without i...

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automatedeating said something on another thread that prompted me to write this: I've tried telling myself that about no yelling at work. I haven't kept to it, but I have decreased it. I'm reading a book on anger that says we can't necessarily control the thoughts and feelings of anger but we can co...

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Love Ellyn Satter! I've referred to her at various times. I just want to do exercise because I will feel likely feel better and because it's more associated with longevity than even weight loss. I like to think I'm willing to do the minimum! And maybe it will bring my hunger back. It was a wonderful...

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Deb, she is on the Living Binge Free team. She has another username and knows lots of people there. It's Christina. Christasp. She said she wanted a place where she could talk more without a lot of naysayers because among the bingers and in the eating disorder literature, there is so much emphasis o...

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It's when it's hard that you get the most benefit from sticking with it. Or so I tell myself, but I think there's some truth to it. And didn't you feel good afterward?

No need to answer soon. Enjoy your time away from the boards!

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I'm not doing much social stuff this year, and that's fine with me. It means I will have to invent temptations. There's not much I'm dreaming about letting myself eat this year. I've already eaten it all. I think I'll have some eggnog, but I'm not sure when. I'm going Italian on Christmas Day! At th...

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Eating fine, but not exercise. Did go to dance class on Sunday, but was on the couch most of the day yesterday.

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your words "Especially when most of weight loss rewards are more imagined than real." Boy, I have preached this, and yet I think I'm still susceptible. And it's hard for me to accept that I want to eat when I'm not legitimately hungry. Why won't my body get hungry? Why should I eat if I'm not? Why s...

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priceless response to your sister.

I think there is actually more benefit to taking two days off from your plank than in doing it every day.

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"snacking is not an option, so eating for emotional reasons is not an option. It simplifies my life."

I dunno; that sounds pretty articulate to me.

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I grew up mostly in San Bernardino and returned to the area after living several years overseas. Redlands was the last community I lived in before I moved to San Diego in Dec. of 1980. It's the gem of the Inland Empire, IMO.

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I had a green day. I wasn't very hungry for any of the meals, but I felt I ate very reasonably, and I'm not willing to wait much longer between my meals or eat even less at them for now. I just have to accept this as being as good as it gets right now.

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Here's her sparkpage: http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage.asp?id=CHRISTASP

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If you're willing to tell, what was the hobby? I keep thinking I'm going to find another focus as compelling. So far, housework isn't it. TV and movies are the alternate right now, and a hobby of forgiving myself for watching TV and writing on eating issue boards all day.

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Last few days to get it right in 2013. Let's keep doing it!

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Where are you, girl? Did you get derailed or are things going so well there' s no need to check in? I started just before Thanksgiving in 2008, fell off the wagon until I seriously committed Dec. 26, 2009. I had had one good week in that interim, and have had shaky times, but I'm down about 40 lbs. ...

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You are doing great! At the same time, I think you are discovering that this is not a linear experience-for most people. (Just like the effects of exercise. We're not necessarily stronger every time.) I've had some challenges just recently and this is my 4th year! I hope that doesn't discourage you....

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Happy holidays!

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P. S. I'm a teacher, too. I never had children, and I almost can't imagine working right up so close to your due date. But a lot of women do it! Hope you can take a long leave afterward. Working goes on for decades. Babies are babies for a relatively short time.

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I've just caught up on your thread from October. My goodness! No S is going to take a back seat soon. I'm sorry you're so stressed over the birth conditions. Try not to let the ideal be the enemy of the good. Allowing for more options will increase your chances for joy, not decrease it. Regarding ea...

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I know it may be hard to hear, but when you really get tired enough of overdoing it on S days, you'll find a way to tone it down. You have to be able to remember very vividly that feeling at the moment of temptation, and to downplay the pleasure you will get from eating in the moment. Worth the effo...

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What we say to ourselves is very important! It's important to be accurate, though. Just saying that eating 1,000 calories a day isn't hard won't make it so. But eating three meals a day most days of the week is quite a reasonable way to help us negotiate the mine fields of food in our culture. It's ...

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Did you say you visited Big Bear Lake somewhere on this thread?

BTW, I live in San Diego.

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S days are yellow FOREVER. You can eventually have a separate calendar for modifications to S days.

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Deb, online encouragement has been shown to be very helpful in getting people over bumps. If it takes several months, so what?

Hey, did you read Christa's blog (on Spark) on the book Brain Over Binge?

oolala53

Hello! and welcome. I've had many times of days off work and with people but still enjoyed an N day, especially if I had cafe au lait breaks while others snacked. It felt very civil. Dec. 26 will be my 4-year anniversary, having started when I was 56 and post-menopausal. It's very doable! And 5 year...

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Hi! Awhile back, a man wrote to Reinhard saying he had been following No S for several months and had incorporated exercise by starting with 4 minutes a day on weekdays. I'm not sure if he had worked up to 14 minutes or not, but he had lost about 40 lbs.! (Dang men!) Do not underestimate the power o...

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I like this blonde! I'm not a mom and won't be perusing her site all the time, but I applaud her. http://bodyimagemovement.com.au/

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I just scanned through your whole history. I have to say that it breaks my heart that you still feel so fat. You've maintained a loss of about 22% of your weight for quite awhile now. That is a real feat. And you've had plenty of slips along the way without quitting. Plus, you have a very impressive...

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Ah, yes. You sound like a different person from the one you were before. Binges happen. They do not signal permanent failure. You move on, treasuring N days. Abut the French and Italians, I used reading about them to help me get and stay compliant to No S. That's all. Just knowing that whole slim cu...

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Oh, I also wanted to say I am not a purist at all about faux foods or the rest of it. I eat fast food Mexican all the time, and go to those cheap Chinese food buffets. But I don't prefer most fried foods. Nor do I prefer manufactured snack foods, so I actually don't eat them often. I find a good bre...

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You should do fine on Vanilla, especially after we get past the holidays. It sounds like you were a reasonable eater before your pregnancy. So this is your baby's first Christmas? Congrats!

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I think you've hit the nail on the head: you never binged before dieting. It is VERY hard to get over bingeing while also focusing on losing weight, which is the normal reason for dieting. The focus has to be on just normalizing your eating- eating at relatively regular times, eating a combination o...

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I thought I read that it is estimated that most people end up averaging about 25 calories per bite. Of course, if you're eating all very dense foods, it would be higher.

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http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/95085-i ... -deep-hole

Even on No S, we probably have to go through this process. Wherever you are, just keep going!

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There is no guarantee what will keep binges away. Or should I say the urge to binge because in the end, we choose to binge or not. It's convenient if we don't get the urges, but it's not necessary. It can feel like we don't have a choice, but that is just the habit talkin'. Unless we are hallucinati...

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Eating success. Exercise failure.

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Yes, more S's just for the weekends. Maybe two fist-sized snacks and one sweet after a meal each day? Just to give yourself a little more leeway.

I like your new motto.

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You had to live it to see it. So worth it!

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Yeah, I remember attending OA meetings in the mid-to-late 80's. Their program at the time was three moderate meals a day with no eating in between. I thought they were crazy. And I didn't like the idea that there was so much else involved. I see now there was no safety valve. And finally, they were ...

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I do sometimes aim for the 12-hour break, and that isn't hard except that I likes my milky coffee early in da mornin' so I don't often make it. I hear the typical Greek breakfast is coffee and a cigarette. However, they aren't known for their lithe physiques. :? Just slightly lower average BMI than ...

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Welcome, our new friend! I'm the one who counts three plates a day, but to be honest, I do loosely use a version of MyPlate.com for most lunches and dinners, so that over the years, my volume of dense foods has very much decreased, while freggies are about steady. I waver between lower carb (evoluti...

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Didn't mean to offend. :oops: I am on your side with regard to being a faithful and expressive fan of No S, Jethro! And yes, I did suggest a long time ago to Reinhard that he consider teaming with someone from the world of eating disorders to have a version of the book specifically for compulsive ea...

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With all due respect, and even knowing what Reinhard says about shame, I submit that shame for those with eating disorders is a poor motivation for long term maintenance. Many heavy people already feel a tremendous amount of shame regarding their eating and their bodies but do not reduce their eatin...

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When you put in your age in the box below the one for BMI alone and then calculate, in the box below that, it shows the percentile. The average (50%) for women of your age and height is 144 lbs. (I played with the weights until I got it.) Yours right now is in the 42 %ile, so you are lighter than 58...

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That is the BMI I was at when I started, though it might have been higher, as I discovered (drat) that I'm an inch shorter than I used to be, so my BMI was higher than I thought. I'm at 24.2 now.

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Someone asked if I would say more about what I had read about French eating. Here are rules from a pdf of The French Don't Diet Plan by Dr. William Clower. I also read his first book, The Fat Fallacy, years ago, but it didn't click until No S. And I still opt for some low-fat dairy and add walnuts o...

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OOps! I put a comment I meant for another thread here. Nosnacker caught it and moved it, but I'm deleting it from this thread.

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BTW, I've read that this site actually put a limit on how fast dieters wanted to bet that they would lose weight because it was just too easy of money to make given how ambitious dieters often are. Making the bet on BEHAVIOR is much more reasonable, though it sounds like you must be very honest. Not...

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It's very hard to accept when the urge/desire to eat is there that "this is the moment" we're thinking about at other times when we say we don't want to binge or snack or whatever. I remember often thinking (in the beginning) in the car on my way home, as I was having very strong urges to stop and b...

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A decent S day. Not going to bed stuffed or even really full.

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I started at a similar time four years ago after failure and long lapses for more than a year before. That can lead to even more determination. Let's do this!

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That's where I was at, Lpearl. Actually, since my mid-twenties, I had never liked the image of myself as a dieter. I kept thinking I could be a more natural eater, but using meal-based eating is so much smarter and more efficient. It may not get me skinny without serious mods, but like you I'm not w...

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There is no predictable amount of time, just like there is no predictable amount of time when people will be happy with eating less, etc. Each person brings her/his own proclivities. I gently say that being preoccupied with fear around eating is a symptom of an eating disorder. Reinhard is pretty ho...

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Auto, it's weird. I wasn't thinking of myself as disciplined, but more as... civilized and discerning. It wasn't that I wanted to be the opposite. It was just that that persona wasn't as important anymore. Similar to when I was younger and convinced myself that I wanted to be "athletic." But it was ...

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I've had some 24-hour fasts come on on weekends between Saturday dinner and Sunday dinner naturally and just went with them. But planned not eating for that length of time feels exactly like dieting did to me. Vanilla never has felt quite the same, even if there were tough times. Maybe I'll get that...

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Okay, I'm starting today. I think I might try to record each day separately on here. It will keep the thread bumping up and that might help people keep recording.

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I think I've realized why I've been having some wavering lately. 1) For a long time, part of what motivated me besides simple habit was liking the image of a person who had these habits. However, in the past few months, it started to feel annoying, and I let THAT feeling grow. But I'm ready to go ba...

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Deb, I still sometimes have to try in weak moments, but most moments aren't weak. I still marvel at being able to walk down the candy or cookie aisles of the 99cent store without really wanting to pick up a thing. I can even look right at all of it. But I didn't put myself through that in the beginn...

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Too bad businesses can use this to promote products that have no more intrinsic value or possibly even less. I like that the behavior of savoring the food increased the value. I've long been eating my meals more slowly, taking at least 30 minutes for lunch and dinner. One writer on the French tradit...

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I tried incorporating 16/8 IF two non-consecutive days a week. I did not find it easy at all. I felt myself dreading those days. A few weeks later, I had some of the biggest fails on N days that I've had in a year and a half. At the time, they seemed to come out of nowhere. I don't know if they were...

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Not giving up making the lapses shorter is key. Long term loss maintainers failed many times before they realized they just had to stop letting slip ups derail them for days, weeks, or years at a time. It's not earth-shaking to hear; it's just earth-shaking to DO. Get back on the plan as soon as pos...

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I put in "how long do people stick to a diet." That source I linked was the only one that wasn't advice about how to stick to a diet. There was even an article on the easiest diets to stick to; WW was #1 because it was "flexible!"! I couldn't believe how often the author said, " experts say it's eas...

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I just googled the topic and here's a first report. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2276930/Five-weeks-willpower-Most-women-diets-weeks-days-43-minutes.html Extrapolating from the National Weight Loss Registry, which is actually a rather small (when you think of it) sample of 6,000, the re...

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If that sounds fair and reasonable to you, go for it. Remember that it might NOT sound so fair in moments of temptation, but remembering your past regrets will help. I'm sorry in a way that you had to come back because I know it's probably been painful living with disordered eating in the meantime, ...

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It's interesting that some people say going over the top makes it easier to gt back to N days, and others say it makes them carry overeating into the week. It sounds like you're ready to have moderate weekends, which will likely boost your good feelings about the effort. I'd say to calmly figure out...

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I was talking about the exercises that Jethro listed which involve long holds.

I think 11 minutes of anything would be a great addition for most people.

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You made it past the brownie/fudge afternoons! Nice to hear it's still workin' for you. Are you still avoiding sweets and breads?

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You're here! I think for your purposes, this is a great time of year to start. Not to crow, but did you look at the thread called "How do you handle the holidays?" I think there is a lot of value in going through the holidays making the effort to eat sanely, and I left a rather long message about ho...

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Which cookies are you talking about having too much chocolate in? the German chocolate ones?

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I'm pretty sure that trainer does not recommend doing the exercises every day, more like once or twice a week. When I'm consistent, I make Mondays and Thursdays my "long hold" days.

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I finally forgave myself for not being able to make IE work when I saw that the French and Italians do not depend on it or even trust it to ensure moderate, pleasurable eating. They have rituals for the size of meals and the foods eaten at particular meals. They're not waiting for their bodies to gi...

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I know the day has passed, but I wanted to reinforce the idea of making new rituals for snow days. Other foods or other activities. Getting the day off from school is enough of a reward for the kids.

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I humbly suggest that members calmly and soberly make a pro/con list of sticking to N days on all but two extra days this month. You may perhaps decide AHEAD OF TIME to allow for three or four days instead, but don't underestimate the value of finding out that you don't need much more than than two....

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I have to remember that about work, especially because for all my anxiety about it and my wildness in class, I don't get that much better results than those who have a more blase attitude. However, it's happening at any one moment has got to be good enough. I can always intend to do better later.

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Boy, have I missed a lot! But it's good stuff. Congrats on 100+ days. I don't think I've ever made it to 250 days with 100% compliance. But I also know I don't want to go back to the life I lead before, so that memory is still enough to keep me from going overboard. So far. As Reinhard says, there's...

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Several emails from last month got lost, so I am just catching up. Seems you are not checking in much, and I can imagine why. I affirm for you and your husband the strength you need. Hope your holidays go well.

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