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oolala53

I am so glad for your success and I think you are doing a fabulous thing for your daughter.

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You are a real testimony to strict moderation! Thought you might be interested to know that you went from weighing more than 69% of men in your age/height group to weighing more than only 41% of them. A very nice place to live, esp. if you had always been a heavier guy. Hope you keep up with us ever...

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Don't know how I missed your post back in 2011 and I'm glad I caught your update. Your weight sounds perfect for your height. Thank you for spreading the news.

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I think you're right. I thought it was a sticky. Maybe Reinhard will weigh in on this.

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I think it is really hard to avoid the diet industry if you are a woman in this country. There are many exhortations I have gotten more used to ignoring, but even after my years of involvement here on NO S, I still feel prone. I'm not sure I will ever be cured from some curiosity as long as I live i...

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I'm not the originator of recommending not crashing the car because I dented it. It was here on No S when I got here years ago, I think. But I spread its wisdom!

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A few years ago, I participated in a program sponsored by the Brian Wansink site on ways to counteract mindless eating. Brushing your teeth right after a meal was one of the suggestions. I got a lot of suggestions, but I did hardly any of them! Still, I've done reasonably well with No S. It's the ca...

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This was before my beginnings on No S. Thanks for bumping it up!

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I've actually lost some of my No S mojo. I think I've figured out that it's because my appetite has decreased so much, yet I still desire to experience the pleasure from eating more. However, it's not as much fun. Even when I eat moderately, I don't get that hungry for my next meal but I don't want ...

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That's a lot of steps!

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I feel ya. Food is seductive and available. And we DO deserves treats! It's just too bad what food treats do to us. Got to keep looking for others; at least, I have to

I am having a little struggle right now, too, though I don't think I've gained much. Let's root for each other.

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I can't point to them all, but there are MANY people here who tried, faltered, left for years at a time and came back to commit. They didn't all necessarily fall into line right then. The post on giving yourself a green for each meal gap is quite good! Though it's not Reinhard's suggestion at all, I...

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Just to confirm, from the info pages on this site, when asked: Can I take my Sunday Thursday? (etc.). Not officially. It just adds to complexity to start moving things around. And that often leads to bargaining, and that leads to.... Even if this doesn't seem to "work" for weight loss, it does wonde...

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I don't think it's so terrible. I don't know how long you've been at it, but I wouldn't fret about not making it unless it's less than 5 hours between lunch and dinner. Then I think you should tough it out. Maybe you could try eating fewer chips each day until you don't need any. Or have the snack W...

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Makes me think of the very sweet but quite overweight young woman I met this weekend who pooh-poohed Costco roasted chickens because they are injected with sugar, somehow. All I could think was that the sugar in Costco chickens was probably the least of her worries...

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You might start another thread asking young mothers what their experience was. Breastfeeding might require different rules. Or you might add more protein and fat to your meals. Both add satiety. Fat is valuable because it adds it with such small volume so you don't feel so bloated. I've read that mo...

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Stick to the glass of milk next time, if you are actually hungry and there is a lot more than an hour until the next meal. If not, forgo it.

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You are barely scratching the surface. I don't want to tell you how long it took me before I was not an idiot on the weekends-it was more than a few months, but it's been worth it. Keep up with N days. Don't be in a hurry, but do be strict about N days, and let your body learn it is going to get foo...

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Yes, reminding yourself, "What's the alternative? Count? Cut out?" can be motivation enough.

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Been doing okay. Atypical grazing yesterday. Even with small meals, not much hunger today. I'm having a guest over for dinner before we go to a comedy show so I can't wait for hunger, necessarily. I'll just eat moderately. I refuse to starve.

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Hmm. You might lose some weight, but not the fun way.

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Would 4 "meals" work? Maybe 3 salad plates and one "regular" plate for the meal during the day that would be the spotlight meal.

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I'm repeating myself from other threads, but I used to live in Iran and the children there ate the same food as adults. PLAIN yogurt (NEVER sweetened) and plenty of green veggies, cooked and raw, for example.

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Does anyone know how much time is allotted for students to eat lunch? I have a feeling it's longer than in the U.S. In my region of SoCal, since the weather allows for students to be outside at lunchtime, almost no high school students eat inside a cafeteria and a minority of students sit down and e...

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Though the Catch Phrase Glossary isn't meant to be affirmations as such, it probably includes some. Why not take a look?

http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3883

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http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic ... 149#133149 ????

I think.

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I think this is spam.

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How wonderful for you!

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I definitely agree that I used to be able to get more in when I just grazed. Not as much these days, as it's more unpleasant than it used to be never to be hungry and to always feel a little full. But it doesn't mean it doesn't happen sometimes...

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that is a more accurate reading.

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When I first came to No S in October of 2008, I think, a woman had been doing that for about a year. She felt normal and left. I've taken pictures in phases. Go for it!

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I don't think it said he still diets. He dieted to lose the 10 lbs. and now sticks with three meals. I don't think he considers that dieting. But I may be wrong. I agree that it's likely vague when people say they eat what they want. You don't really know what it means to them. But some peole can ea...

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I'm curious about what diet books don't have recipes. By that standard, most of them should be ousted. I guess that was his point. But they keep getting published.

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You've always got me because I wasn't obese all my life. I find that I don't have to expend the same effort all the time, but I do have to expend some effort at least some of the time. But it doesn't feel as if I'm having to hold a rubber band tight. I also find that I need to go to events hungry. N...

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Doesn't sound like he was ever really big, but I could be wrong. Interesting that he seems to say that a 2-drink limit is about right, too. I don't think that limiting oneself to three meals is enough, as he says. I bet he keeps it basically to a plate, too. Or perhaps when he says "as much as I wan...

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Let's be careful here. Elephants are SUPPOSED to be big. They are not overeating. I have a feeling if they were offered food only certain times a day, but were allowed to eat their fill, eventually they would eat enough to stay heavy even eating fewer times per day. I doubt they'd lose their appetit...

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I've read Reinhard say you can do whatever you want, but it won't really be No S. Limiting sweets to weekends was carefully determined, as were the other S's. From my experience here and on other sites (one thread devoted to ending bingeing), clinging to a daily sweet is the source of more downfalls...

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So glad to hear it.

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Feeling rather hollow right now. Found out a few hours ago that a man (younger than I am), who was also a member of a Zen center I used to atttend, died of cancer yesterday. I think it is especially poignant because one of the reasons so much Zen practice is involved with mindfulness of the present ...

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Actually, it CAN hurt to try eliminating foods from your diet, unless you are willing to be compassionately curious about it. I'll assume you will be.

Thanks for admiring my thread!

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TX, renew. I know I'm a bit more doughy now, but I'll take it.

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You can't really control what you desire. It does sound like you are controlling the urge to eat, right? My desires to eat right after work haven't gone away, nor has my desires to eat more on weekends at times I used to graze. This after three years. But these desires are small potatoes in the sche...

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You're HUNGRY after the S days, or you just feel an urge to eat? I found if I grazed a lot on S days but didn't gorge, I was more in the mood more often to eat.

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Bernard Jensen used to say to wait until you had the keenest desire for the plainest food before you ate. He also said to chew your juice and drink your food, meaning to chew solid food until it is completely liquid (you get all the flavor, too) and swish juice around in your mouth to start the dige...

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Barbara Rolls, a researcher on satiety, reports that the water thing is a myth since thirst and hunger are regulated by different systems, but it seems like a lot of people experience the placebo effect. I don't like drinking much with my meals. One of the reasons I committed to No S was that I noti...

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Oh, yeah, that's what drove me crazy about WW. The emphasis on fake foods, though a few things have helped at times. But I discovered while I was on WW that I thought my meals were so much better than the typical suggestions made. I certainly ate a lot more volume and still do. I'm not much of a con...

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You darling people are the best!

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Well, dang it, I have to admit it, I have fallen off the wagon. I actually had what I would call a binge yesterday, eating a small package of the turtle Chex mix and a whole container (in a kind of bag with a decorating tip) of the frosting called S'mores. I call it a fail because I made a mod for m...

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Sounds fantastic, and even better, sane.

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So, maryashley, what's cookin'? Do you still feel the problem? BTW, I almost always have a cup of milky coffee, even two, between breakfast and lunch. It's a work ritual I enjoy. Sometimes I wait unitl I'm hungry to have the first one, but not always.

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This topic comes up over and over. It is cited as one of the major reasons No S-ers like the plan so much. It makes it more likely we will wait until we're hungry enough to reach that point. I've found I have to eat less and less at my meals to get to it.

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I know there are slim people with eating issues, but really, if you can basically maintain around 145/150, is your eating really a problem? I know back when I was around the same weight (and much shorter than you!), I was actually maintaining, but I was so sure that I was fat that I thought I should...

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high fiber cereal with a scoop of protein powder, milk just to wet, and walnuts or flaxseed meal; maybe small fruit two-egg omelet with veggies, maybe toast/tortilla/pita real oatmeal, optimized similarly to Reinhard's in warm weather, smoothie with greens blended in or plain yogurt with fruit and n...

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I'm slightly chagrined to report that I caved and bought a pack of "energy" bars. Partly it was because they were on sale and partly because they were low sugar and high fiber. I guess I was thinking they were a way to add some fun to my meals? It doesn't make any sense to me now. They didn't taste ...

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I've reported before about the experience of a man I know who lost 60 pounds over the course of a few years (not No S). He insists that he let go of all guilt over eating. He kept intermittent records of his weight and the TREND was downwards, though there were definite ups and downs. Now he is quit...

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This will become your new norm. When I first started, I brought lunches that included the food from at least one snack that I would have had. I usually had one in the morning and one in the afternoon. Now I bring what would have been a lunch preNo S and a piece of fruit. Plus the entrees are smaller...

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Parts of my answer now don't really fit you, do they? You can't get to 145/ BMI 22 without having felt what its like NOT to be stuffed , so you do have that touchstone. I know on Spark on the maintenance team I observe, most of the women there eat some small "treat," they call it, every day. Of cour...

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Brian Wansink found that people tend to eat more when others do, so you are not alone. However, Thalia noted the one-plate rule. You have to find a way to stick with that on weekday restaurant visits. It takes more discipline to stick to your moderate guns all the time. It will likely take awhile to...

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If you've been an emotional eater, it's likely you do a lot of blaming yourself and feeling bad, This is just an effect of the sugar and the habit. Those thoughts don't describe any valid interpretation and besides, they don't really make you eat less, so they aren't really useful. Trying to let the...

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Hang in there. You might want to get a little exercise in. A bit of walking and a few minutes of something brisk regularly can leave you feeling peppier and sometimes that will make a difference. You're really pretty much living decently, so hold your head high.

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Just keep telling yourself that this is a fair and reasonable way to apportion yourself food. You don't starve. Food is always just a few hours away, in the past or future. You can eat what you like at fair intervals. Let the process help you find satisfaction, eventually with less. Be tough on your...

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Hear, hear, Nicest.

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Yeah, I never thought I'd be so Nancy Reagan about it, but Just Say No is a pretty good strategy for limiting food simply. Breakfast, lunch, dinner. Simple, if not easy. Period. Who knew? Besides millions of French and Italian eaters. And the Chinese, I think. Before McDonald's.

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Glad you had a chance to check in. Especially nice to hear that you think you are reducing emotional eating while dealing with job stuff. And doing it even though you haven't been keeping up with us! I'm still tied to the apron strings.

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Yes, that's the thread. I don't know why I couldn't find it this afternoon. Sorry for panicking.

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Yes, bite the bullet, not the chocolate. I've been NO S-ing for three years and the more important chocolate is to you, the more important it is to eliminate it from N days, IMHO. I was CONVINCED I would not be able to live without chocolate candy, brownies, frosting, etc., every day after more than...

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Water never helps me for more than a few minutes, but other beverages such as milky coffee does.

Your other adaptations sound good, too.

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That sounds like a reasonable goal and time frame. Welcome.

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Wait, did you get rid of the entire thread? It was about a young woman who lost around 60 pounds and ended her BED. The spam post was just the last one...

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I am finally just a few pounds over what I weighed when I first dieted after high school. However, at that time, though I was in the normal BMI range, I was heavier than most of my peers and always felt big. Now I am lighter than 75% of them, and I expect less of myself anyway, thank goodness. Wish ...

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Depends on your needs and where you are in the process. I doctor my oatmeal a fair amount so I don't usually need something else, but if your normal bowl leaves you too hungry before lunchtime, go ahead and put the bowl on a plate and add something else to it. You can always pare down your meals lat...

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I'll give you my stock reply: welcome home.

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The body's reactions are not rational. Only our actions are either rational or not. You know what you have to do this week.

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It is simply not true that you cannot decrease the amount you eat without causing binge behavior. Some strategies cause more uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms than others and different individuals, even at different times in their lives, are willing to tolerate discomfort of varying levels. Also, wh...

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Even when I eat reasonably on a trip, I sometimes gain because the food is usually so much saltier. I know you didn't gain 5 bls. of fat! I think I lucked out in a way because I was on a trip in my first week of No S and I found I could really enjoy myself with my three meals and some leisurely coff...

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Sinnie, give yourself time. Remember that you have hundreds of meals to balance things out in. Eat according to your preferences as often as you can so that when you get into situations in which you don't have access to your best choices, you can eat something else in a relaxed way. This won't happe...

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Welcome home.

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I'm just reading Food Matters now, though the concept is not new to me.I borrowed it mostly because in flipping through it at the library, I saw he had a few pages of spice mixes. I tend not to cook up recipes but to make plain versions of things and add sauces later. I always think it's interesting...

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gk, weight loss wasn't my goal, but I know it is the carrot for many people, so I include it. And I especially want to catch those who are ready to accept the long view. Forgot that I had made plans to have dinner with a friend, but it turned out okay. I gave myself permission to get a bread roll af...

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Also, I got a lot of pleasure from my N days and even some of the S days along the way. It was still the most fun eating lifestyle in memory for me.

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I actually don't like not being hungry because it doesn't mean I don't still want food. If I could just forget about food when I wasn't hungry, it would be great. But I WANT to have the experience of a meal, and I would esp. LIKE to be hungry when I eat it. Oh, well, I'm not in charge of it. I can o...

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Congrats on your Easter gift!

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Not to mention that having the income to live for 120 years will change the retirement age.

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Even if you have a little trouble getting into the swing of things (I did after an alteration to my diet while on a retreat after my first three months of no slips), just realize that you will likely handle it differently next year IF you get back on the horse. BIG PICTURE.

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Freedom from the tyranny of the scale is worth a lot.

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If that is the only thing that will bring you relief in your life. Think about it. Why should your focus be so narrow? Is this really the way you measure your success? Nothing else really matters except not eating too much on the weekends? Doesn't that put it in perspective a bit? Widen the frame of...

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How did going back to calorie counting work out, Eeyore? Weighing yourself Friday and Monday was very likely misleading. Are you trying to manipulate water and waste in your body? That's about all you can measure in short periods of time. Did you really OVEREAT 10,500 calories on the weekend? Becaus...

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Wow. I still don't bake. got no one in my life who needs it and I certainly don't, but if I did, I might face it down. You'd be my model.

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Glad you enjoyed the treats. I did have a few Peeps last weekend. Oh, how I used to scarf package after package of those! Thought about getting a small package today and maybe a little milk chocolate bunny. Nah. Didn't miss them, though probably would have had some if anyone had offered me bite. Nic...

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TX, MJ. Had another day of almost no hunger. Had coffee with cream around 9 a.m. Then a hot chocolate around 11:30. (Was visiting with a friend and gabbing.) At a get together, I had about a handful of savory snacky foods and a half a cookie, plus some tea with sugar around 1:30 p.m.. Some twinges o...

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And it sounds calm and reasoned, not a pipe dream. I'm convinced periods of failure are actually useful must for the making up.

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It would be mostly water weight gain.

No chiming in this time: you've got the word already!

I'm not past thinking a chocolate breakfast sounds pretty good, but since I have no one to share it with, it won't be happening here this weekend. No worries.

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Don't worry about it. It might be the kind of event to declare a NWS day for. Have a great N day today and play it by ear this weekend.

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I had a fail after dinner. Had cereal. I've got to either accept that I need a bigger dinner or just bite the bullet even if I don't feel quite full enough and wait it out.

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I always read that people who start exercising claim their appetites increase, but I always thought it was their imagination. It dampens mine, at least temporarily. I'm guessing that the increased energy need gets the body to draw the glycogen stored in the liver and thus dulls appetite until it's u...

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As an example of a smaller appetite, I had no hunger at breakfast time today. Since I"m on vacation, I opted for a big bowl of vegetable soup! I was hungry and ready for a real meal around noon, and had a leftover half a burrito and veggies plus lettuce from a meal out last night. And a banana. I wi...

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I think at this point it would have been a good idea to fit the pancake on the plate before you started eating. Then if you decided you were too full before you finished the meal, you wouldn't feel as if you missed out. I've been reading Food Matters by Mark Bittman. I won't do every thing he says. ...

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