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Well, the ancestors didn't have access to thousands of calories with so little effort. Nor to foods that were in forms that allowed the ingestion of those calories so darn fast. Nor did they live in a culture that allowed eating all day long and seems to find so much value in having too much. Or eve...

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A normal sandwich, with a few slices of meat, maybe one of cheese, with lettuce, tomato, condiments, etc., is not stacking. I would say any stack similar to a sandwich is acceptable. At some point, ( a few months in) you are required to be honest with yourself over whether other foods stacked as hig...

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The car analogy I borrowed from another cleverer No S-er than I, though I can't remember who it was.

oolala53

That is exactly right. Understanding this two years ago is part of what helped me commit to No S. I realized this ain't no touchy-feely thing, though it can be that, too, but this is real brain chemistry stuff and good luck trying to talk your way around it. The only way to minimize the connection i...

oolala53

Only half the box? I would have had you beat many times.

Okay, so you backed the car up and drove it into a pole a few times after you dented it. We've all done it. And we can all learn not to do it, just by not doing it. Inn't that great? No special skill, except in your mind.

oolala53

Made it through today without going to get the cookies I SO wanted to eat (for about 5 minutes) when I found out I was supposed to get students to sign papers when they had their interviews. I found this out AFTER I had class, too, when I could have had them sign instead. So nervous someone will dec...

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Knowing where the urge comes from can help, esp. when you know it is not valid in terms of what it is asking you to do. Actually, for the problem, it kind of does help, but it's so short term and in reality, even with the discomfort, the trade off is probably not worth it. But each gal has to decide...

oolala53

Oh, did I mention this was all after menopause and 40 years of compulsive/binge eating?

Thank you again, everyone.

oolala53

The realization that the bingeing really doesn't help even if it is pleasurable in the short run is priceless. One thing I saw at the beginning of No S was that I spent more time thinking about how good the food would taste and feel than on the later consequences. I think I thought then that thinkin...

oolala53

Not pitiful! Wonderful! Even God cannot change the past.

oolala53

Dude, if you can find company you like to unashamedly smoke that fag with-- well, you must be on the East Coast. And yes, that does sound like playing with the devil, with the reputation for addictive power that nicotine has. But once again, you've proved the value of strict parameters. It's a good ...

oolala53

Smart tactic to have a buddy to call regarding the night eating. The difficulty won't last forever.

oolala53

So glad to hear you're happy you stuck to it. I'm also tickled to think you lost so much more weight while hardly realizing it was as much as it was. And getting to high school weight!

oolala53

Not planning for having sweets is a STAGE in this process, at least for me. I am not at the point where I can let the weekend go by without having sweets. I find that they are simply "on my mind," and find it more stressful to try NOT to think about them, though I may try that tactic in the future. ...

oolala53

Absolutely, KH. We could say the same thing about our eating in general and our bodies' appearance. So small in the scheme of things. Actually, I think the WTH effect is as much our brain's way of getting us to feed that habit as anything. The circuitry is set up for overeating certain palatable foo...

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So sweet, everyone! Thanks for noticing!

And I hope I didn't mislead saying the most important info was at the bottom of my signature. The weight loss was just the only update. What's more important always is finding a way to live peacefully with food and our body image.

oolala53

Yesterday, Mar. 20, was the first day of spring, so this is great timing.

oolala53

BTW, it is not a dream of mine to live to be 100. I just want to be in good condition while I'm here. So far, bad habits have not been my ticket out, but they've made the time kind of a drag.

And I'd like a little notice so that I could blow some of my savings, but not on medical bills.

oolala53

I haven't read your whole profile, so sorry if I am asking you to repeat info, but are you a public school teacher? Wondering what kind of position allows you to work one-on-one with students.

oolala53

Thanks, all!

I started weighing in last year in conjunction with some attempts at 90 days of No S, 14 minutes and walking. Now I'm going approximately by the start of the seasons. My birthday in Sept is just a bit after that.

oolala53

I've done that! A high fiber cereal I like. I'd rationalize it a bit telling myself maybe my body needed the fiber, but it was still a fail and it could so easily be a slippery slope. Glad you're catching it now.

oolala53

I'm going to welcome you back before you even post here on your own thread. I've thought about you so many times. I'm glad to hear you're back, though I wouldn't have minded if you had found the key to food peace for you. Everyone deserves to feel like a normal eater! We're totally on your side.

oolala53

Aw, shucks.

oolala53

I've already told this in two places, but I met my wish, not goal, of entering the normal BMI range today. Weight below in signature line. I'm especially glad because I did not do anything to get here except keep working at becoming a relatively normal eater. I did have a few days over the three mon...

oolala53

Compliance with No S has continued to get even better, with S days considerably tamed. probably averaged only 35% compliance on exercise, but I still lost 7 lbs. I've dropped a total of 12 lbs. in two rounds of this, and am finally at a size at which people are really noticing the difference. When t...

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I updated my testimonial, though the most important info is in my signature lines at the bottom of this post.

I'm going to say more on the RE90X thread.

No S just keeps working, 26.5 months in.

oolala53

I humbly suggest that Mr. 100 doesn't actually know what accounts for his longevity, although I think his ability to let stress go is one of the major ones. It certainly seemed to be a common factor in the stories of those in a popular book years ago on centenarians. By that standard, I should be de...

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Don't know how I missed this. How's it going? What exactly is so hard about No S and college? I'm not trying to be patronizing. Just want to know the sticking points, because it seems not only doable, but probably highly desirable to have a reasonable plan that helps combat all the craziness of coll...

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It will feel great to be back to it.

oolala53

Oh, my, yes. Start at the foundation.

oolala53

A difference in generations. On another board, a new no S-er reading the book was reminded of visits to her grandmother. Small breakfast, simple lunch and dinner and little snacking. She remembers that grandma would somtimes have pie alone for lunch, dining out with her friends, no apologies and sav...

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Be careful what you ask for. I ate some salty foods (including some broth for my cold) and had that water weight gain just a day before my last weigh in. However, I developed a mild case of, ahem, diarrhea later today on top of my cold issues. I don't think they're related. I think the digestive iss...

oolala53

Oh, I didn't mean there won't be ups and downs in this "marriage." It should just be harder to get out of it!

oolala53

Thanks, all. It's a drag not to be in better shape for this testing, but I don't have a fever and no aches or pains, so it's more annoying than anything. I just hope my heavy breathing doesn't come out on the recording of their presentations!

oolala53

I used to torture myself with having binge foods around because of the intuitive eating programs that recommended having so much of your favorite foods around that you couldn't possibly eat them at one sitting. That did not work to help me limit them. When I read of Brian Wasink's work, I realized e...

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Having an okay S day. Feeling the beginnings of a cold and cannot get sick this week! We have one more week of school before a break and high stakes testing all week, tests that only a few in my dept. are qualified to give. The other teachers and I are booked all week with it. Not much attracted to ...

oolala53

Maybe a food journal on failure and/or S days only? as per latest podcast. (S day suggestion mine, not Reinhard's.) I did yoga pretty seriously in my late 20's, early 30's, but gave it up. I still see some of the people I knew then who kept it up. A lot of them are still moving pretty darn well. I a...

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You still have a very good chance at leaving the preoccupation behind at your age. Sometimes I just try to imagine what women thought about a hundred years ago. They may have had worries we didn't. How do people live who don't have something major to worry about? Or maybe they just have interests? I...

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Didn't mean to sound so hard on this idea. Despite detractions, it's still in the top 10% of smart ways to deal with food excess.

oolala53

During the week, you're riding a bike. On S days, it's more of a unicycly with training wheels (for our purposes, it exists). Even with training wheels, it's going to be weird. Give yourself a few months to get back into it. You made it sound as if S days became easy before. Since then, you've been ...

oolala53

It does not ruin your work during the week. You can't do that. The days of compliance have a value in themselves. Now, it may keep you from losing the weight FOR NOW, but just keep going. At some point, it will be less important to have every S day meal be special. Consider making more N days meals ...

oolala53

I had plans to skip snacks this afternoon in prep for a party. Didn't happen so I wasn't too hungry at the party. Still had a moderate plate ( a little less, actually) and bites of a few desserts. I'm pretty full, but I feel fine about it.

oolala53

Don't let the improvement in belt notches let that eating gremlin in your brain convince you the handfuls and bites in between are no big deal. He led me astray so many times!

oolala53

A bargain at twice the price.

oolala53

Dr. Faustus tends to have that effect.

oolala53

Just wanted to tell you that one of your comments to me comes out at the top of the present page I open. Pick yourself up, brush the crumbs off, and start again. Love it. Yes, that is the modern American renewal song. No dust involved.

oolala53

I'm adding this here. I had actually written it all as a response on someone else's thread but then felt it might be too long, so I referenced there. I swear one of the major reasons I stick to those three meals is to have many opportunities to get very hungry. The whole meal after that tastes so wo...

oolala53

I ended up writing such a long comment that I felt like I was hijacking, so I'm going to put a link here, if you'd like to read it. http://everydaysystems.com/bb/posting.php?mode=reply&t=4198 BTW, the icons above never work for me. [i]For instances, I just used the italics icon, and this is what hap...

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I didn't feel that good today and had another crappy email from an impossible-to-please parent. The principal okayed her daughter's transfer, which is fine with me. It's the principal's policy that put her in my class in the first place. Gosh, I spend time on that girl and offered her so much and th...

oolala53

Well, now that you're married, it will be easier... congrats!

oolala53

Thanks, I'll try that next time.

oolala53

Frankly, I"m very sorry to hear of this new turn. I also don't understand why you wouldn't already continually have been using prayer if you are a person of faith.

I'll check in again in a few months and see how it's going. Good luck.

oolala53

I figured it out.

oolala53

TX. ibb. I was looking in a cabinet for something else last night and noticed some marshmallows. The thought occurred that I could just pop one or two in some cocoa. Then I realized that was a leftover urge from last night's fail and caught it. Stitch in time. Reminded me that success on this is in ...

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I just read the transcript and realized I used another catch phrase from the board to record my fail. I think it might work almost as well as having to spell out the fail. I said I had only dented the car, not crashed it into a wall. Being able to claim that helped. The problem with full confession ...

oolala53

Hope I'm not repeating myself because I'm pretty sure I left a similar message on Sparkpeople but I could have sworn that one was for a woman 51 years old. Anyway, you do realize that you have absolutely no reason to lose weight or to be worrying about calories. You BMI is 20.5 and you weigh less th...

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I saw this link and thought someone else might think it was fun. I don' think corned beef and cabbage needs a recipe. http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=1545002 I wish I knew how to put the link in a differently colored word as some of you do. The formatting icons don't work for...

oolala53

Had a fail last night. I didn't crash the car, though. Just a dent, but I didn't feel terrific when I went to bed. Was surprised that I was hungry for breakfast. Determined to put a fence around the law tonight and tomorrow. Got a St. Patrick's Day party to go to. Looking forward to it. I know there...

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I already told someone else this story but it applies to the scale issue. I officially weigh in only once every three months. I've failed at that a few times, but not much. And, I decided that I would weigh every day for one week before my official day and average all the days for the final tally on...

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I know I've seen free videos of cool bodyweight exercises that seem much more interesting than the traditional ones. Maybe not as functional as shovelglove moves, but they look like they'd be good for you! Seem especially good for men because they seem to take a lot of upper body strength. Adam Stee...

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Kathleen, on another thread, I was trying to encourage someone who was getting defeated rather quickly. I told her that it takes a long time to claim that a marriage is solid and that No S was more like a marriage than a diet. She wrote and said that that had helped her. When she was offered sweets ...

oolala53

Oh, that is so cute! I didn't even think of that!

oolala53

Hear, hear, renew. That is what kept me going through the long slog of crazy S days. I was still so much better off than I had been before No S. And now S days are better, too. Even if they weren't, what's the alternative?

oolala53

Hey, you inspired me awhile back, and I'm still here, doing even better. I hope you get the results you want. It's a great way to live.

oolala53

I occasionally over the past couple of years thought to try intermittent fasting, usually on a Monday after a crappy weekend. Up would come the old anxious, crabby feelings and desires. Yet, over the past few months, I've had such "fasts" come on with no intent. I think I've had two of them. They we...

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I'm curious, too. I know naturally thin people may need abs work to make them stand out, but Tom Venuto, fat loss coach and competitive bodybuilder, said he once went an entire year without doing any targeted abs work, but he still had a six pack because his body fat was low. He claimed that most pe...

oolala53

Not everyone would consider lassi a fail, nor would it be considered a good idea to have it all the time. Technically, we can eat fried chicken all the time, but I'd bet most people don't.

oolala53

You don't have to apologize to me for not making it on the "hunger" mod for S days. I don't think many people use it and it's dangerous territory for most. I think you might have to try to let yourself off the hook a little more. If it's this hard, something isn't making sense. And I'm still not cle...

oolala53

Keep all these thoughts in mind. You don't want to go back to the evil diets. You don't want to count calories and track. You do have health concerns that merit targeting moderation. You've often felt sick and tired, either physically or morally. These will all fade in intensity at times, but you mu...

oolala53

Not exactly a catch phrase, but years ago I went to a course on eating from hunger that told us to be sure to distinguish between foods that were teasers or pleasers. I see now that that should have covered the refined foods that I felt I was hungry for but ended up overeating. Teasers make you want...

oolala53

I don't know how to use the search feature without getting hundreds of matches, so I'm sorry if this book (Willpower: Rediscovering the Greatest Human Strength) has already been discussed. It has one chapter on dieting. Once again, it reinforces Reinhard's insight. Very near the beginning of the cha...

oolala53

Hi, I'm new to your thread. IF you stick with No S and commit to becoming more cooperative with your true hunger, the likelihood that you will weigh less in two years will be much greater. This problem is not solved in a few weeks or even months. You can't make a marriage be solid until you've lived...

oolala53

Yes, Virginia, you can lose weight on the No S Diet. Oh, isn't this just the best kind of story. How sane of you to aim at just maintenance and looking for a reasonable way to eat and live. If we could just trick others into trying this out for just that purpose, I bet we'd have a lot more testimoni...

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Have had an okay weekend though I had a little bit of an old-style run on sweets today. I hope I'm not kidding myself when I don't feel scared by it. I know previously when I lost weight I thought it was going to last, but I think I'm more aware of what the slide looks like. I'll be uber aware on th...

oolala53

Great job on the cookies!

Good luck on being off work. I've actually usually had an easy time with it, which is ironic because weekends are so iffy. Guess I just like my N days.

oolala53

As a reminder, have you ever read through posts on my check-in? I semi-binged almost every weekends for 22 months! And I had about 85% compliance on N days. However, I managed to lose some weight, keeping 1/3 of it off. Then I got N days squared away and got back down again, and then I finally found...

oolala53

You can take it, Kathleen. You must take it. You've been strong all along dealing with all the input here and I laud you for that. We don't believe for one second that you should be embarrassed because you overate chips. I might think for a second that you should be more embarrassed for signing off ...

oolala53

Yes, the number of meals isn't set in stone. However, for family unity's sake, I gently suggest you try eating very lightly at lunch time or perhaps earlier so that you can be hungry for and share a moderate meal with your family in the evening. One of the beauties of No S is how much it allows for ...

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Roxy, if we were bored, we wouldn't be here. Or we'd just be busy! :) Hang in there, girl! Try to approach S days with humor and curiosity. Experiment. Are you never getting legitimately hungry during the day? How many times a day are you eating even a mouthful? Are you eating every hour? Half hour?...

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Interesting. I read a book of Darden's back in the early 90's in which he had several women with before and after's on a weightlifting regimen and no cardio. The women ate 1,100 calories a day. Of course, they looked good after. At the time, (age 36) I weighed about my high school weight and wanted ...

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I get some emails from an exercise newsletter. The most recent one is for an ebook called The Renegade Diet, preaching stepping down from 6 to 4 to 3 meals a day for great muscles gains and a social life. Can't speak for the muscles but can second the social life. Thank you again, Reinhard for being...

oolala53

I was a little curious why you threw the rest of the Chinese food away. Were you afraid you'd eat it?

oolala53

Even now, I occasionally skip breakfast because I've awakened feeling a little nauseous or queasy. I just plain don't feel like eating then. Occasionally I'll skip lunch, usually for the same reason. On those days, I'll bring a lunch and a big jug of broth. If I still feel queasy at lunch time, I'll...

oolala53

Imogen, I assumed you were asking us for our opinion about our experience. To qualify what I said, I think if I started to eat sweets for snacks/desserts more often than weekends, I would have a problem. I still like to be able to eat quite a hunk at a time. Maybe that's because I still do eat quite...

oolala53

It's unnecessary eating that will kill you. It's the eating that becomes automatic and forgotten, melding into the day so that over time you have no idea any more what you've eaten. And I think it also depends on what your problems have been. Personally as a former binger, I'd say RANDOMNESS is the ...

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I don't know if you've done anything like this before, but it can be very anxiety-provoking. And it can happen either way. You can get antsy waiting for "breakfast" and you can get antsy waiting to eat later. I guess I shouldn't anticipate that you will get antsy. I just know I did and do to some ex...

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Actually, I just use the whole wheat mix from Trader Joe's. I just made this this week for a colleague's birthday at work. I knew she wouldn't want a cake. I made biscuits and cut some fresh strawberries in with a few thawed blackberries and raspberries. Overnight those got a little juicy. Plus I ha...

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I traveled through India in the late 70's for about 5 months. I saw a lot of women with children traveling on the trains. I don't remember their having food with them, though since I went third class, it wasn't only because it was not the habit to have food ready every minute. I don't think they cou...

oolala53

Interesting that you don't have weight to lose! maybe someday I'll be that person, though after 2 years on No S, I'm not willing to do much more. My weight is still drifting down and I've not yet exercised really consistently, so there's always the possibillity. I would never have had the will to be...

oolala53

HI! When I read about your observing the others at your Friday night dinner, it reminded me how I've been watching slim women at a couple of get togethers relatively recently. I didn't know any of the women well, so I can only guess what they are usually like. Interestingly to me, none of them talke...

oolala53

Just want to reinforce what you seem to be feeling: that the real focus right now is Vanilla No S. Everything else needs to be expendable. Desirable but expendable. Expendable doesn't need to mean it will be jettisoned. It often won't! But a failure of the expendables should have absolutely no effec...

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I think in the book The Fat Fallacy in which the author also wrote about his changed eating habits from liviing in France, there was a story of an American taking her young child to the pediatrician for a check up. The doctor gave her instructions about how to introduce the child to bleu cheese bit ...

oolala53

[quote]If I start to waiver, remind me of this post! I am sick to death of spending all my time tweaking. It may be that it's a part of my personality to tweak. Fine... I'll tweak my exercise program. [/quote] Oh, don't worry! I'll remind you. But I think I won't have to. As you say, you can put all...

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I started by allowing myself to eat a lot at one sitting, including sweets, oh, good golly, yes! including sweets. Like a pizza lunch with dessert and a few ounces of chocolate. Or a taco and then 8 unbelievably rich shortbread cookies with a chocolate dollop. Of course, after that, I would be quite...

oolala53

Okay, you know what your meals were like when you were doing well on No S, right? Do you need WW to tell you not to load up your plate with rich foods and no veggies? What is the real value of WW? That they tell you your limit? I think down deep you know what your limit is. I guess I always have a h...

oolala53

Just read your update, Kathleen. A note on willpower from a "toughness" coach, something you quoted someone else saying how the beginning and the planning, when we are imagining that it's all going to work, so we feel euphoric. Then it gets hard and we switch. This toughness guy says what everyone h...

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Oh, forgot to say that I don't usually use any spray on the mini-grill, but it's not a bad idea. Plus, I don't use paper towels in general, but I keep clean cut-up old clothes around as rags, and I wet a couple of those and put it on the grill and close it up after using at night. Then in the mornin...

oolala53

Roxy, thanks for your post. Don't be too hard on yourself to start with the mod. When I first started, I actually put a cutoff point. I started with 7 hours. If I didn't get hungry for 7 hours, I could still eat then, even if I wasn't hungry. Then 8. Then 9. That didn't happen often, actually but it...

oolala53

Well, KL, eventually, you wouldn't want to eat that 2nd bar just because you're not going to eat sugar again for several days, but it is common to do this for a few weeks or even months. Don't be afraid to let food go when you aren't really hungry for it on S days. They're the perfect days to eat le...

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I experiment with eating by hunger only on weekends. It's my way of compensating for having waffles with syrup for breakfast (after which I don't feel like having lunch at the regular time) or having a lot of chocolate even after a dinner with dessert (after which I don't get hungry until brunch or ...

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