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It's a great feeling.

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The 21-day myth. Who started it? It's been disproved so many times for so many habits that I'm surprised it's still around. Do you know how many people stay on diets much longer to lose their weight and yet gain their weight back? 97%. If their new habits were ingrained, they'd all stay thin. I know...

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You really do have a lot to work around. Of the bits that I've read, I have to say it always seemed you have done remarkably with the changes, but it makes sense that you feel sad about it. Our lives are already often so complicated even small things can throw us for a loop, never mind such a huge s...

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Things have been good. Got back into the 21-day club. I'm back down to where I was at about my lowest on No S- though I'm not supposed to know. I'll be posting a testimonial around New Year's. I wasn't supposed to weigh until Jan. 8 but I'll move it up. I have time off from work and am getting in a ...

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What a drag! I thought thyroid medicine was supposed to help weight loss? I'm on a forum on Sparkpeople for maintainers. Those women are mostly damn thin, if you ask me. And some of them eat frighteningly little. Others eat pretty generously. Some are fitness freaks almost, but most just walk. I say...

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Sorry to hear about your dad. My mother died 5 years ago today- while I was on the plane to go see her. I know it probably doesn't feel like worrying about food is very important, but eating too much will not likely make you feel better at the end of a day. In fact, moderate eating will be more supp...

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My school PTA always puts on a big sweets spread for the teachers during our last week of work before the winter break. It was Friday this year, the last day of the semester. I had pretty much decided not to take a NWS day, though I don't have many events to go to. Then I had two crises at work that...

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Well, it's gotta happen. No way you ate an extra 14,000 calories. The body does what it does, no? Sometimes it hangs on to water longer.

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I second what Too Solid Flesh said. I think I may have been the one to write it before, as I'm fond of reporting it from the National Weight Control Registry. It sounds obvious but it's actually profound and obviously hard to do, though many who do lose weight use such drastic strategies that it's u...

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This is fabulous! I wish you continued peace a pleasure with food in 2012 and beyond.

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I changed my mind about adding an NWS day, and I'm fine with it. I enjoyed the treats given by our PTA. I don't have a lot of events this season, so I think it will work out fine to stay with S days and possibly one other NWS day, though I won't look for one. I've been online for too much of the day...

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I changed my mind about adding an NWS day, and I'm fine with it. I enjoyed the treats given by our PTA. I don't have a lot of events this season, so I think it will work out fine to stay with S days and possibly one other NWS day, though I won't look for one. So, this means I made it to 21! This is ...

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Oh, yes, I'm sorry! I didn't know where the choice came from, and was just making suggestions. If I said anything else offensive, I apologize.

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Did you go to http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/bmi.htm? Are you in the 25%ile or lower? I think you should seriously work on accepting your body. Really, if we didn't live in this culture, I doubt we'd be spending so much mental energy on this. If the issue just magically went away, what else wou...

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Glad to hear you say you are willing to confront hunger. It is not the monster you think, although you may have a HABIT of responding to it in certain ways. But there is really nothing that says we have to wolf our food when we are hungry. I find nowadays that I am just as likely to get full faster ...

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Browsing on the Shovelglove board, I saw a reference to the exercise system of an German amateur athlete and early fitness expert named J. P. Muller, and I went and looked at his pamphlet published in the early 1900's. He had a recommendation regarding diet: he said those who worked hard labor shoul...

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mrsj, sorry if I seemed like I might be sabotaging your goal. If aiming at 36 kilos galvanizes your resolve, go for it, and we will gladly eat our words next December. They're not so delicious, but filling and calorie-free.

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I'm posting here early because I'm rebooting No S and will be exposed to some fearsome food over the next two days. This is day 18 and I need two more green days to get to 21 on Saturday. I have opted not to use either one of them for a NWS day to preserve them for when I'm off work.

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I have very balanced meals because I buy the parts that go into a balanced meal when I shop, though I don't know what they're going to be exactly beforehand, except that there is protein, starch veggie and fruit. Maybe that's my meal planning. I admit I don't cook a lot of recipes but just the basic...

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Just want to say that I was so sure I wouldn't be able to keep to three meals because I was so used to eating 5 times a day and didn't think I could eat enough at meals to get me through. I do still allow myself milky coffee between meals, but I am so glad I've found that three meals is all I need a...

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I guess you must really trust your husband not to want to sabotage your efforts. Actually, I remember reading a book years ago that said that the author had seen a fair amount of success with the "stick" method. He recommended actually writing up a contract and even enlisting an attorney, if need be...

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I don't plan specific meals but I know what general guidelines I use for meals so when I grocery shop, I just make sure I have the main attractions. I cook up a lot of grains and sometimes chicken breasts or turkey breast, etc., ahead of time I just always have food on hand, esp. vegetables, fresh o...

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got my first treats as gifts at work. I almost gave one of them away. I'm debating on the other little bag. They are my favorites! I think I'll put them in the freezer in the workroom until Friday.

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It's not only the effort; it's been shown that satiety is increased with increased chewing. That's another reason why lightly cooked or raw vegetables help with satiety. They take up volume and you have to chew them more. I chew most bites 30-50 times. If I don't have to, it shows me I might be choo...

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I'm sorry I don't know all of your history. Did you actually go through a period of weeks or months eating only three meals a day on weekdays, but those meals remained large enough to prevent you from getting hungry between them? And you did not lose weight during that period So what do you think ab...

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Exactly. Sometimes you are not even fooling yourself! you might even be hungry. But are you hungry enough? That kind of dickering drove me crazy. When I first got introduced to the idea of letting hunger decide, the proponents said we often eat at mealtime just because it is supposedly time to eat w...

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Well, the US Dept. of Agriculture is a little late to the party, but I found it heartening to see their replacement for the food pyramid. I was already using something similar to this for lunch and dinner for many years. It was bingeing, mostly on sweets, between meals or instead of them that was my...

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What a great foundation for the holidays! My first try, I fell apart at Thanksgiving and it took me more than a year to get ready again. I guess you just can't rush these things.

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When a thin person says she eats as much as she wants, it is a different "as much" as the typical overweight person. Most thin people have a different definition of what full or stuffed is. Most of them hate the feeling of being stuffed. And most of them will routinely wait a long time to have a mea...

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Love to see your updates on the check-in thread.

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I think that's perfect. Truth is no one is somehow magically getting to eat higher calories than they need on No S and still lose weight. The habits (and I swear it's the longer gap between meals) help regulate our natural appetites so that we realize over time we need less and our bodies start tapp...

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I had a good weekend with only one major S event each day. Big improvement for me. All green days so far. Left a post on the general board about taking a NWS day tomorrow to enjoy the goodies baked for us by our PTA. Got a potluck Sunday night. Other than that, I'm planning on sanity.

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I didn't do the baking, but my school's PTA is having their yearly spread of sweets tomorrow. Actually, there are usually sweets or bagels or something every day for a week at this time of year, but this was the only thing we got notice of this year, which is fine with me. I'm trying to decide wheth...

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I'd like to know what nutrition book that is. Did it give a citation?

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Hope you're back to stay. I think you need to look back and see what kind of things you tell yourself when you "fall off the wagon." And realize that they are all just plain wrong. Also, when you are truly convinced that your eating plan is fair, it gives you a lot of ammunition to ignore the urges ...

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Sorry I'm so late to the party but perhaps a booster is welcome as we go into the holiday season. Hurray!

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I had what I consider success last weekend because of great improvement. There was basically one overeating stint on each day which is a big improvement over an early balloon payment in the morning and then grazing the rest of the day both days. Yes, it has happened in multiples of ten. But I don't ...

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I think you possibly should have said you aimed only at the people who have been failing consistently at green N days. Christmas is exactly what No S was made for. If you have been consistently implementing vanilla No S for months, I'd say you are entitled to baking and licking the spoon, as long as...

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In the freezer, I keep the bones from the chicken and turkey (roasted) that I cook or buy cooked until I have a fair amount. Actually, I do it with other bones, too, but there are fewer of those. Then I put them in a crockpot, cover with water, add a teaspoon of salt, sometimes some garlic and/or on...

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Are you still in the valley of darkness? I know you were feeling discouraged. Did you find something that has helped you rein in your eating? You so need some relief!

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I'm glad I found your check-in thread. I think I need some version of 3-0-7. I've gotten so used to not having sweets during the week that I don't want to go back, but I understand your reasons for having a very moderate amount every day. I hope the reason you haven't been around for awhile is that ...

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When I first read that you weighed the same, I was thinking you'd follow it with a barrage of complaints as many others do. What sanity! Although it's said on No S you start in maintenance, I think the interesting part is that we end up "dieting" as time goes on. By this I mean that people get more ...

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I've been No S-ing for 23 months. The ability to overeat has never gone away though it is unpleasant afterwards. And the desire hasn't, either. My weight loss stalled after about 5 months, went down a few, up a few, yada yada yada since then. I've caught a cold, yet was hungry for breakfast and did ...

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Though I've felt desperate to eat dinner at times, I am feeling better about my compliance recently. I'm also noticing that some of my pants are fitting just a bit looser, which helps reinforce my resolve. I keep telling myself to remind myself this weekend how much better I feel when I stick to the...

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If I may be so bold: I was browsing this topic in response to a conversation with a colleague and remembered the most recent comments here. I'm cutting and pasting from an abstract on the relationship between portion size and satiety. The url address follows. "The influence of food portion size and ...

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I guess a habit of moderation is excellence.

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The astonishing thing is that someone outside of school is reading Ethics at all and has two friends who will, too. No wonder you're not obsessed with food, Reinhard!

I read on another thread about the Willpower book. Sounds interesting, but I'm in the middle of the Upanishads...

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Yes, cutting down on the decision-making is a central strength of No S.

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Oh, my. Doesn't that capture it. The obsession with all the planning and the details. I wonder sometimes if a hypnotist could take away some of the memories of me as a person with this preoccupation. What if I could just forget about it all until I really needed to plan for meals or actually eat? Wh...

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No S success, though I felt almost desperate for dinner-yet I wasn't actually hungry. I felt I could not wait until I WAS hungry, which wouldn't have had me eating later than I have when I was caught up with things I wanted to do. Ah, me. Also didn't get in any exercise. I'm too caught between tryin...

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Glad you're here. I've never had complete adherence in my mind to No S even when I had a few months of green N days because I always ate so much on weekends that I felt full all the time, except for a few instances. But I have never thought I could do anything else but No S. I can't even stick to a ...

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Welcome! I'm glad you accept that not eating snacks can't hurt anything. Some people are convinced it can! The benefits have certainly outweighed the drawbacks for me. I'm still tweaking after nearly two years, but I've never found anything else that makes any more long-term sense. And I've pretty m...

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It seems like it would be convenient to have something make us want to curtail our eating until it happens. Here's to voluntary moderate eating with no pine nuts to ruin the pleasure.

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I'm back from the retreat. Ate more than I was really hungry for at times, but my pants are looser. Have ahd a green day so far.

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Oh, how we love these "I'm back" stories. I've found that No S has actually helped me with my emotional eating in that I don't get to do it on weekdays! I sometimes have more milky coffee than I need and still eat too much on weekends but compared to how I lived the years before No S, this is sanity...

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You don't say what you did about your meals to try to alleviate the problem. If you really believe you will always have access to the "right" snack foods, I guess snacks will work for you. It's just that statistically, they increase calorie intake for most people. It's your call, but you are messing...

oolala53

I have occasionally stopped in and am encouraged for you that something seems to be shifting. I do fear a bit for you that the adherence to your Novena diet will create urges to subconsciously "make up the difference" on non-novena days, but they could also work to help you see that you can get used...

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I had such a tough time between lunch and dinner yesterday. I had a plan to go out to dinner with a friend to begin the celebration of this week off. We hadn't set a time and I called around 3;30 pm to see if she'd be willing to go early. Turned out she had gone out to the mountains with her boyfrie...

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OMgosh, I have got to get my butt in gear! That is fantastic! Thanks for going public and inspiring this long-timer.

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Have had a good week, including the weekend after eating a can of toffee peanuts on Friday (bought to help support a colleague's daughter's fund raising program-- danger! danger! ) Last two days I have squeezed in weight work, but no walking. Have terrible sleep habits over staying up to grade paper...

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I'm quoting from another site where a member has this in her signature line. BTW, she lost 165 lbs. She says her main focus in life now is becoming a better kayaker, though she tracks and sticks to relatively low calories. It is her way of life now. I don't say this to promote her choice at all, but...

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I sugggest you google " a BMI calculator you'll like." It's hard to find here at work for some reason, or I'd include the link. I've said before that No S cannot trick the body. Everyone here who has lost weight has done so by somehow eating fewer calories than they need. They have put themselves on...

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Hi, again! Not to be sour grapes about your dear friend, but the only person I've personally seen keep weight off on a strict regime in the last few years is a colleague who had the surgery. Man, she is skinny! and I think she will stay that way. A campus assistant lost 100 lbs. and has gained back ...

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Still getting over date night?

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I maintained on Vanilla No S for several months (after a 22-lb. loss) and unfortunately have had a lot of failures since I went back to work in July, so I've gained a little. I'm still down 9% of my weight, and by scientific standards, that's good! However, when I was N day compliant, I went overboa...

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You can think what you like but the stats show that 75% of weight loss maintainers weigh at least once a week. Scales don't drive people crazy; their thoughts do. If you can't separate your thoughts about yourself from weighing, then throw out that scale, but consider working on your thoughts. As an...

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Back atchya.

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If I'm going to do it, I'll write in eating chocolate mousse cake.

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I think this is a good idea. I just think some of us have different wiring that requires this kind of thing. I don't know if it's the sweet eaters or not. I do know that Reinhard says he was surprised to find out on the poll on this topic that sweets were the major issue for so many people. He also ...

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Didn't mean to ruffle feathers. I guess I was thinking more about GETTING to the fantastic hundred pound losses with just No S. It seems most big losers here, including Reinhard, I believe, added in exercise along the way, some of them adding in quite a lot. I still haven't been as compliant as I wo...

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Restaurants and their unending supply do make it tougher. Good luck this week.

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I saw this article on a maintainers' thread on another board, so I asked if those who had maintained for more than two years experienced those symptoms and felt they had to be so vigilant. Many still track, but most did not talk as if they felt actual hunger plaguing them, but that the thoughts to o...

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Just curious. Do you think that if you had continued tracking you would not have upped your sweets habits? Trackers claim it keeps them from eating. I always found eating kept me from tracking...

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My issue with bars is that they are just so dense and don't provide the satisfaction of a meal, which is a similar problem with sweets for me, so I can easily overeat them. I would have to be really carefully to chew them a lot to get the same bang for the buck in eating satisfaction for the amount ...

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I'm getting nervous about the weekend. At one and the same time, I see that I am not able to keep to any mods I have set for myself AND I'm coming up with mods. I'm starting to think I can't allow myself any S-es unless I am with other people. I just don't seem to be able to refrain from overeating ...

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success in all three.

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I change my answer: NWS probably isn't necessary. I"d probably plan to eat a heftier lunch than normal. I know I've had a Costco pizza slice at 1 p.m. and not gotten hungry again until 10 p.m., at which time I've had broth with veggies. For the record, I find when I actually do get hungry, I find it...

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Welcome back? I don't know if people can maintain big weight losses on No S. I am on another board where maintainers seem to have to monitor like crazy to stay really thin, but I do think this is the way to freedom and moderate weight maintenance. And sanity. and joy in eating.

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I'm in for the trifecta: No S, pseudo-shovelglove for 14 minutes, Cardio Ranger. 11/1: Success all three 11/2: Success all three 11/3: 11/4: 11/5: 11/6: 11/7: 11/8: 11/9: 11/10: Failure 11/11: Failure all around 11/12: S day 11/13: S day 11/14:No s success 11/15: No S and 14 minutes success 11/16: N...

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Get right back to "work." That's what successful maintainers say made the difference for them when they finally lost weight after many failures. The slip up did not become an excuse for more eating. You've done so well!

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That's how streaks start.

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Had a green day all around. KNowing it was the first day of Nov. helped. I couldn't start Nov. with a failure!

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Can't remember how I finished off last week, except that I know I had a failure Friday, but not one that I feel terrible about. I ate too much on Saturday and it took a very long time--until the middle of the evening --before I felt good on Sunday. So I've had a good day and even got a 40 minute wal...

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Your grandmother ate a ham sandwich every day for dinner? It does sound like many people could lose weight because of the small portions and lack of variety. But people can lose weight on many versions of this. As someone else said or implied, would you be happy eating this way? Bottom line is you'v...

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Definitely grounds for a "sick" day. NWS.

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Let us know the new name.

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It is so very true that your eating won't help him or anyone. Easy to say, I know, but I do know last year I went through some very stressful times with mostly green weeks and life was better. I've been letting smaller things get to me and it is a pain. Yet not quite enough, I guess, as thoughts of ...

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I thought the same thing. Has anyone ever studied people who gradually reduced what they ate, say, over the course of a year? For some obese people, or even not obese people, dropping to even 3 hefty meals wouldn't be gradual. The biggest problem there is that weight loss might not show up for awhil...

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Don't know much about the dizziness issue except that I've had two bouts of labrynthitis. The last one kept me in bed with my eyes closed for two days and then still not a lot of moving around. Not fun. What about floor exercise, like some Pilates moves? Or Callanetics? I remember being able to use ...

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Scroll down to the bottom post for a chuckle.

http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/team ... 9x44793154

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I searched "peppermint" to see if anyone had already posted this and got 557 matches, though mostly in daily threads. This might help those who are sticking to three plates but not losing. I'm going to try it on weekends. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/foodwine/2016570394_web26peppermint.html...

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I checked my book. There are 24 response cards- a few too many to type out the messages of here. The gist of the message on each is contained in lessons, so you could make your own pretty easily. The cards are about 1/2 the size of an index card. One of the cards says, "PUT DIETING FIRST. I have to ...

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What't going on, Ruthie? Have your tried any advice? I'd love to hear how it's going. I want to address the question of shouldn't you eat if you're hungry. It sounds like there might be a little fear in there that you are damaging yourself to wait to eat. Most likely, you are not, especially if you ...

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I've been stalling off and on for a few months on No S, but at times when I've been able to stay on track, I had intermittent challenging days and I VERY FREQUENTLY used many of the thinking strategies Beck recommends. I also have an extensive list of advantages that I periodically look at. (I actua...

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Sounds like you are finding a solution to the dinner problem, but I wanted to vote for your not compromising the quality of your dinner because you eat it alone. On the contrary, be sure the meal you have alone is very good. It will go a long way to your being happy with that cup of tea while your h...

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Take your time with the food. Just because it's there doesn't mean you can't pace yourself eating it. (Just trying to be the voice of reason here.) You don't have to eat it fast or throw it out. Have your meals, enjoy what you bought slowly, and resolve not to buy so much at a time, even after this ...

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Failed the last couple of days, but I almost feel like I am winning because I haven't gone back to eating after I woke up from a late afternoon nap. as I have often done after a failure. Have to get myself in gear and finish some grading because grades are due tomorrow. Whoa, a wave of desire to go ...

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Sounds like you have made some real movement on the eating issues in the last few weeks. That is so great! Having real body problems that make you curtail your habits is no fun, but you will feel better all around by surrendering. Just reading this is also helping my resolve tonight, as I've failed ...

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Is weight loss the only result worth getting for awhile? Is it worth it to refuse snacks and sweets only if we lose weight? It's fair if it's true for you, but perhaps consider that there was a payoff in being able to do without these things, as you did for a few weeks, for other reasons. The freedo...

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Just not sure. Some people with only 10 lbs. to lose have done it losing from the beginning . Others not. Maybe it depends which end of the range you are trying to get into? Are you trying to weigh at the low end of your range or just trying to get out of the overweight range? Are you very short? Sh...

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