Everyday Systems

oolala53

I think this dovetails with the experience of Anne Barone, who wrote Chic and Slim, though she was more purposeful in finding out and following the precepts of slim French women. Living in France for a year, she lost 50 lbs. but kept the habits so that she has remained slim-- and made some dough off...

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I'm bringing this up for those who might need to start thinking about the weekend. I've been wavering in my N days for a couple of months, but am feeling the love again now. However, I still feel anxious about the weekend. My biggest issue is that I lack structure on the weekends-- no family and few...

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Saw that you're reading The End of Overeating. he shows that so many processed foods are engineered to bypass the body's natural appestat to tell you to stop eating. It helped me a lot to see many foods this way and not assume I was incredibly weak. However, I also have found that except for sweets,...

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I'm not at goal because I still use food on the weekends to soothe and entertain myself. My goal is pretty high, too, but I've been a lot thinner and I was eating way, way less than I would on No S and exercising for the equivalent of hours most days of the week. So that is not the way I am willing ...

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I first got on the site in fall of 2008 and had about 9 weeks total of compliance over the next year. Then in January of 2010, I committed to a year-actually to two years. I've had mostly good experiences, though my S days are still wild. I've never stopped to try anything else and just wrote a long...

oolala53

As a person who ate sweets pretty much non-stop from mid afternoon to night and sometimes even in the morning for DECADES, I'm here to say that yes, it does get a lot easier. I've been grappling with some failures over the last few months after going back to work at the end fo a short summer--when w...

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Okay, this is more than a year later and I am still the one keeping this going, but hey, I'm still having a few problems, though I only gained back 3 of the 22 pounds I had lost and maintained. I bamboozled myself into reading a book called Let's Do Lunch, written by a guy who LOST 230 lbs. coming u...

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Hey, it's been a few weeks. Hope you are still hanging in there.

oolala53

Reinhard, you mgiht have to sneak it in, but I have a little water-heating pot (that I've replaced a few times, getting them for a buck at a thrift store) that would probably work fine for boiling water and soaking your oatmeal. but you'd have to eat it right then before it cooled. I still use my se...

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If anybody is still watching this, I did not weigh most of September and have weighed only twice in October. I know my weight is up since June, so what's the point? I was weighing myself all the time I was not racking up green days, but I kept having failures. I know from experience that the scale i...

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TX! My body is still recovering, or maybe I've reached the age where I'll always hurt a little bit?

I had an official failure, but I feel pretty good about it. I was hungry! And I got my exercise in, though barely. Barely is better than couch potato.

oolala53

Hi, friends! Yesterday was a green SUCCESS day, but no exercise, even after all that swearing while I huffed and puffed. But I started with my 14 minutes today. We'lll see if I get my walking/cardio in. It's already 5:40 am and I have to keep getting ready for work. Oh, for the days when I woke up a...

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Don't know what you looked like before, zenboar, but you look pretty fit in those pics.

oolala53

Why not take a look at the testimonial thread?

I think you'll see if you browse the boards that most of us here have given up on traditional diets and have greatly decreased the obsession.

oolala53

A speedy recovery from your surgery and your No S setback.

oolala53

I hope you feel better soon and can ease back into moderate eating.

oolala53

I liked the day you listed the thoughts you pursued that helped you stick to your plan. Hope you can use those and any other helpful ones to have a good green day today. In fact, I think it would be just about as useful to record those as part of your daily tracking as recording your food or success...

oolala53

I finished my backpacking trip and am starting a new round of RE90X today. That will take me up to Jan. 8, 2012.

oolala53

I too say add protein if you optimized oatmeal has fat already, from nuts or whatever. And when exactly do you feel starved? right afterwards? That can't be starved. I highly recommend having a milky beverage partway through the morning. You may find after awhile that you don't need it anymore, but ...

oolala53

Does counting the bites help you also savor them? I would think that would help, though just about any counting system has the possibility of rebellion in it down the line. but the one-plate rule should help that, too. When I tried to come to your thread through a link in an email, it said that the ...

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I've been getting behind in the threads I'm watching. And the scale/beat goes on. I am weighing myself today and then not again until I finish my next round of RE90X. That means I'll have to go through the holidays without it. It's actually gotten easier. No matter what you do with the scale, keep u...

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I see you were trying not to spend so much time on the boards and I understand. Okay if you don't respond. Just wanted you to know I'm rooting for you. I spent a week away and was hiking hard for 5 days but the scale went up. It also says my bodyfat went down, but it's said that before, only to go b...

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Where you at? Although I can understand that when things get easy and this is just the way it is, what need is there to post and go on about it?

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If you know absolutely ahead of time that you will want another piece of toast, I think you should take it up front. Do you really think your family is judging you as being greedy? Is there a chance that someone really won't get enough because you took the toast? Could you offer to make more later i...

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Good luck on your trip. Sorry about your mom. You can still eat meals and will feel better for it.

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Althouhg this is late to the party, I think I remember when this was an issue for you, and how bad I felt for you. So glad that hill seems to have been climbed!

oolala53

Nice menu. What dessert[s] did you have?

oolala53

I haven't read your thread for nearly a month and am glad your bike ride went okay. I, too, did not prepare very well for a physical challenge. I got through it, but was miserable a lot of the time, and will probably suffer repercussions for quite awhile. In any case, congrats on your continued succ...

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The trip was fun a lot of the time, but also frustrating and even miserable at times. I was very disappointed to have pressure put on me to eat much more than I wanted because the group leader was more used to young, athletic participants whose bodies really needed the calories. Our 5-person group w...

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I do not believe Coffeemate is nasty, though I have tried very hard to hate it because, alas, it isn't good for you. But truth be told, I like it better in coffee even than milk, though I opt for milk--full fat, which I have at home-- when it is available. (I don't use powdered creamer at home. ) bu...

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I've been out of the loop and will be again soon--gong on a backpacking trip. No posting! Sorry you're struggling. Me, too. Had a failure last night after I had to rush to eat before a class. Came home planning to have just enough to fill a virtual plate, but went beyond it. Not terrible, just not v...

oolala53

Yes, it is doable, but I'd say it would help if you had more of a gap between breakfast and lunch. I'd say having at least a 4-hour gap between meals changed my ability to delay meals significantly. I have to say here that I don't agree with the idea that because we fast from dinner to breakfast, it...

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I want to acknowledge thtrchic for being the most consistent with posting and succeeding and tobiasmom for a recent renewal. I've had one, too, and will be going on my yoga/ backpacking trip in a few days, so things will be automatic those days. Doing yoga recently has made me get even more interest...

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The real issue is what will reinforce the habits you want? If No S is working well for you even with a hot chocolate or cafe au lait, so what? If you find you're deciding after your afternoon mocha that it's okay to have a lump of dark chocolate after dinner, I'd say you are sliding down the slope. ...

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I'm getting ready for a 6-night, 5-day backpacking/yoga trip in the Utah Canyonlands. I paid 20 bucks for unlimited classes for 10 consecutive days at a yoga center 6 blocks from my house, starting a few days ago. I've gone to one or two classes a day, but this one at noon today is the first one tha...

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I'm hanging on to hope. I left for work at 6:30 a.m. this morning and left work at 9:40 p.m. with a couple of hours off for dinner and emotional recovery from a conversation with an irate parent. I have that weird feeling where my eyes feel strained but I don't feel a healthy tired. I'm going to lie...

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Food propagandists, beware! We eat three times a day, whatever we want, whatever you say.

oolala53

Loved the internal dialogue. You'll start noticing how on N days, these discussions don't even come up eventually because most dickering involves something that is not an option. In fact, I'm here to remind myself that eating sweets today is not an option. (I had gotten out of my green N day habit.)...

oolala53

Never even heard the phrase until I saw the movie This Boy's Life. And it was shut your pie hole. Yes, there is something obscene about it.

oolala53

Still, how about the question of what are rather strange questions we get. I get mostly obvious ones. How can you go the whole week without eating sweets? Not strange, but what's interesting is it is often the slim people who are asking. Heavy people usually say "You'll just go overboard on the week...

oolala53

When you have a nice container, it can make the lunch look cute even if all you did was put bread, fruit and a leftover in the separate compartments.

oolala53

Keep coming back to that thought: I always wish I'd stuck with this plan. All of your issues can be tough, but you will be okay without eating over them.

oolala53

I've stayed on sparkpeople mostly on the Living Binge Free team there. Everyone does her own thing and most members there are anti-diet. I still get a lot out of participating there. I do actually read diet books still, but they have to be ones that don't advocate for 5 or more meals and they have t...

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Had a failure day, but not too bad. I'm whittling my way back to consistent green. Dont sleep well and it whacks out my attempts at regular exercise. Entropy doesn't help.

oolala53

I kept track of my weight (off and on) for years and I think I still have the charts somewhere. They were just Word-generated columms and rows that I recorded my weight and ,for phases, my bodyfat in. Starting back in '93, I averaged the weight once a week and that's what I went by. I got a lot less...

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I started to say something about the scale, but it got too long. I'm posting it on my check-in thread.

Nice breakfast, herbsgirl. I believe in contrarian menus!

oolala53

Continued success!

oolala53

It really does make sense that a person can eat 3 meals a day just about matter what is going on, esp. when the meals don't have to consist of any special foods, except eliminating sweets during the week. You've done it and are doing it. Thanks for sharing your "during" success, and keep being a gre...

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I am behind you both 100%.

oolala53

The challenge is: whatever YOU want to focus on for the next few months. One for all and all for one! But we don't have to choose the same focus. You don't have to have a results focus. Habit is good enough. Mine is Vanilla No S, modified S days (haven't decided on exactly what) and exercise. (See t...

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WW does keep evolving. They're very smart to keep having programs that allow for individual food choices. And the media keeps helping to reinforce the idea that we should all be as thin as film/TV/ model celebrities, and the public keeps reinforcing the media... People will do a lot to try to lose w...

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Okay, I have rescinded the weight loss part of the challenge, as you have seen on your threads, I hope. and I still love you all and want to party with you! Ahem, but may I point out that I do not have a weight loss ticker with a goal weight in my signature and some other people do? Truthfully, that...

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You probably saw I've said on other threads (I've lost track) that I say "never mind" to my suggestion about having a weight loss goal in common. I support whatever version of No S works for you to commit to.

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Oh, and this. " Bascially, eat three meals a day with a few exceptions forever!" (The quote feature doesn't work on my computer, or at least I can't get it to work today.)

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"But I will always be true to our true love Reinhard, who does it all without resorting to nutrient science or metabolism or any other time wasters.(I chastise myself here.) Bascially, eat three meals a day with a few exSeptions forever!" This is all I should have written. I'm on your side and don't...

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That's why I said I usually hate it. But I've been at No S for 21 months now with a lot of full compliance time (but wild S days) under my belt, so it's not as if I'm jumping into focusing on weight loss. However, I'm totally willing to jettison the results orientation, and focus on supporting each ...

oolala53

For the TV reduction plan, it sounds like there should be something analogous to a cross between No S and 2-glass ceiling. Maybe none on weekdays and a limit on weekends? Or something like that. And then use Habitcal to track it. I've had many, many green days while watching TV. Once again, Reinhard...

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Took the last of my series of 5 hi-test Pilates classes, and boy, how it hurts to cough! I have residual vulnerability from a throat infection and all kinds of things can bring on coughing. Ouch. Plus, I was convinced yesterday when I left that I hadn't gotten good work on my left buttock, but today...

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Okay, ladies, looking good for the long-term here! I'm reinspired by looking at you all and by glancing at parts of the (curses! No! a diet book? yes!) Cinch! by Cynthia Sass. I can't remember what prompted me to take a look but she recommends 3 meals and a snack, and her recommendations for meals a...

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OK, just wanted to be sure I am watching your check in thread. Let's do this! I hate using poundage off goals and prefer to go by behaviors but dare we commit to cheer each other (plus herbsgirl) to be a minimum of 5% of our weight off by Christmas? Of course we can go faster, but only if it seems i...

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Don't mind at all. Let's be our own little feminista three musketeers. I so need something to keep me going on my mostly failed RE 90X plan (see on main board). I have really been wobbling on eating, which hasn't been typical. Exercise I haven't been regular with for three years. Feeling good today ...

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I have never found that allowing myself to eat whatever I want stopped me from overeating it at some time. Processed foods are powerful. Even thin people overeat them, and sometimes become fat people. That said, it is still crucial to allow those foods into my plan. It is important to take away the ...

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Oh, I got it now. You started this round in June. Nice work!

oolala53

Welcome! Glad your husband is on board. It really is just about the smartest, most sensible way to moderate your food intake. That's all any plan to lose weight is. On a whim the other day, I bought a meal bar. In a moment of weakness, I actually ate it. Won't happen again. Real food at meals is so ...

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I'm wondering what made you think to leave the 3-0-7 in the first place? Just the info on the computer? Oh, my! I'm sorry you got side-tracked but glad you're back. I went to OA years ago and they were recommending this then, though they didn't proscribe sweets during the week. When I went, they sai...

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I am SO jealous of the marvelous sense of humor in the two links provided and in their enterprising nature to put it all together! You are right; this is laugh-out-loud funny, or at least it was to me. But seriously, I've gotten NO WORK done depsite that we got a day off called from school because o...

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I wrote this in response to someone posting that he/she got lost in an activity and didn't think about food for 7 hours. think I've often found it hard to concentrate on any one task besides a few activities for most of my life. I have been working on that in my Zen practice for several years. I thi...

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I wish I was there. Even after more than a year, I can't say I'm not aware a lot of the time that I'm "doing" No S. But I am still glad I'm using it and plan to continue. I've definitely had some days like the one you described, but it's ephemeral.

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I doubt that you look chubby, though I may not know how to convert the metric measurements. I just know that I think I would look pretty darn good at 5'6" and 155 lbs (age 57.9) . I know some here START at that, but it's been 20 years since I was below that and even on my red days, I don't overeat l...

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But this is not 90 days yet for you, right? In any case, great results! I imagine what feels even better is how doable this seems. Not so hard to keep this up, right? The heat finally broke here, AND we got a day off from work because of widespread power outages last night that they were not sure wo...

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I thought I was getting into it and then the heat wave hit here in San Diego. I have to be at work so early and don't have much control over when I can actually sleep at night; if I lie awake until midnight or 1 am, I am not going to force myself to get up early enough even for 15 minutes and if it ...

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Don't know how long you've been at this. Do what works for now. And don't be afraid to let it change as your body adjusts. I have relatively consistency in my proportions of foods at lunch and dinner. Breakfast can be starchy or egg-y. I don't freak if I can't have the perfect proportions at any one...

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You can't predict what your weight loss will be. There is no magic in it. No S can't make your body lose weight if you are still overeating. It's just a way to help target excess. And people can still pack it in. I'd say to try to give up the scale for a few months. Give up thinking in terms of tryi...

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I do believe that for those who tend to binge, random eating is the problem. I am on another board just for bingers and I see over and over that people have problems because they want to be able to make spontaneous choices to eat. The problem as I see it is how to allow for some spontaneous choice w...

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If you were calling a lot of urges "hunger" when they weren't, you're probably less "hungry." When I'm on track (I've been having some red days), I don't feel those urges much. So I get hungry only twice a day.

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I've never used a bento box, but I've been using sectioned plastic containers for years. One is rectangular and had three sections: two small ones and a much larger one. I found a round one at Wal-Mart or Target. It's almost perfect because it's about the size of a plate (but it's a bit shallow for ...

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I had a Hawaiian boyfriend who was the head of a "shop" that repaired the electronics on the airplanes on a carrier. One of his mottos was "Never underestimate the value of a power nap."

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Do keep thinking about what is best for your peace of mind and your baby. The baby does not need for the mother to gain a lot of weight. The baby needs very few extra calories and the body can build new tissue with an amazingly small amount of nutrients. It is much more important to provide quality ...

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I feel so full from my eating today, though it wasn't crazy. Just a lot of picking and no real meals. Your day sounds good.

oolala53

Did not get in my resistance work on Friday, did walk yesterday and walked an 40 minutes of Pilates SPX today.

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This has gotten bumped up from quite a long time ago. Yet, timely. I went to an meetup all-raw dinner last night. Not interested in the lifestyle but interested in the variety of treatment of vegetables and nuts. However, even though the food was delicious, and there were even some fascinating desse...

oolala53

Just keep substituting a different thought and distracting yourself. I bet it will go away for the most part. If you have the thought, so what? Things are great for the most part, right? Don't let perfection be the enemy of the good.

oolala53

Traditonal dieting doesn't work. But finding a balance of eating and exercise does, absolutely. Most obese people need more than exercise, but eating habits often change for the better with consistent exercise. May not get thin; will improve health outlook, and mental outlook, too.

oolala53

Just noticed that someone else already alluded to the fact that the scale is another S. The No S diet- no snacks, sugar, seconds or the scale, except SOMETIMES on S days. Weighing only on Sundays might cure a few. It's only going to lead to self-recrimination, no? Just don't do it, anyone! And defin...

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You've already heard it but just more justification: No S isn't about the optimum diet and exercise for fitness and fat loss. It's about what will promote the maintenance of moderate habits, and one thing that will promote that is anything that makes consistency easy.

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Thanks for this. It does sound like the dairy and pork industry might have sponsored it, but the recommended dietary distribution of macronutrients certainly didn't allow for over consumption of those foods. And the food allotment sounded generous. Hope some of the men stuck to something similar aft...

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I read this on Sunday morning. Not too late to rescue things. I'm thinking of going to the closest university library to read student papers today. It's terribly hot and I need an cool zone with few distractions. For anyone who has been having green weeks for at least several months, has already ove...

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Though Reinhard says a person should be able to tweak No S so that she loses weight without extra exercise, I think you should consider not weighing yourself until you either put an exercise plan--moderate, right, you don't have to turn into a marathoner or a body builder-- in place and use it consi...

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I'm cheating by using new posts to update. Purely selfish. I'm more likely to do it if the thread stays up in the line.

Green No s and a kick-but Proformer Pilates class that covered resistance and cardio (40 min.) in my opinion.

oolala53

Success No S, and all exercise

oolala53

I actually still don't understand the need for it unless you are finding that your meals are very large and you're having a hard time weaning yourself off them. I get plenty full with very reasonable portions of meat and grain, and a lot of raw or lightly cooked veggies, and I'd rather chew. Plus, I...

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Got no liver pains, yet. I feel pretty good most of the time now.

I already don't drink because of other issues, though it's not outright verboten for me. I don't mind, really. But it's disconcerting when you absolutely can't.

Now if someone said I can't eat sweets, I'd be reeling-- for awhile.

oolala53

Hmm, I assumed the nausea was related to residual vertigo issues, though it did occur mildly before the event, too. What other sypmtoms led you to find out you had hepatitis? I can imagine your wanting a mid-morning meal. I, too, have to eat pretty early because the first bell for class rings at 7:0...

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I've seen some elderly obese, although maybe they just had gray hair. And it's possible the obese ones died before they became elderly?

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Do not try. Do. Stay off the scale.
Signed, Schmoda.

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Especially when you are a plastic molded doll.

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Monday and Tuesday were successes. Just updating that Oct. 11 will be the end of this round for me. That will be just after I return from a yoga/backpacking trip to Utah Canyonlands. I have 4 more Nazi Pilates classes that I bought in a cheap coupon series that will be part of this round. I had almo...

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I decided on another thread spur of the moment that I am going to abstain from weighing until my birthday, Sept. 26. And maybe it will be a gift to me not to weigh that day. I'll be 58 that day so the next year will be my 59th year. Maybe that will be the year of no scale...

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Gotta say, though, that I lurk on a team of maintainers over 50 years old. The majority of them are still tracking their food even after a few years. These people have really got themselves down to some low weights. I'm surprised by the calorie spread. Some are eating darn low. Others have generous ...

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The spinning has been gone, but it stayed in mild form for more than a week, much longer than I expected. I thought I was completely over it on the weekend, but had some nausea most of the day yesterday. Maybe that's not related, as I have been experiencing it mildly off and on the past few months. ...

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