Everyday Systems

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Barbara Rolls's research found that people actually stayed more satisfied having soup at a meal more so than if they had the same ingredients in a casserole and accompanied by a glass of water. However, I find that if I get too full if I drink with meals. If I eat too little, I get way too hungry to...

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Let's see if we can help up that 5 percent with better, sustainable habits.

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Had a good day, but no formal exercise. I do actually do a fair amount of walking at work.

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not disgusting. I'm hooked. oh, gosh, I didn't even plan that one.

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I still love sheet cake and frosting. I wish I thought it was disgusting. But I don't think many foods are actually disgusting. I might not enjoy them, but disgusting for me is for worms or slimy things. If my experience is any marker, bingeing on the weekends does not bleed into the weekdays. If an...

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How are you doing, busyme? Do you believe us? I did actually start losing right away on No s, but I had already gone through some stages of eating many foods I had previously forbidden and some other things that helped me go pretty close to very moderate meals right off the bat. However, I've stalle...

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I think the point here is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. It's actually up to you to prove that you are serious. What sets people up to have others doubt is to make broad claims and then not follow through. You can say all you want about being serious but no one will be convinced unt...

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I know you were inviting us to comment on DietHobby, but I'm going to say something here. Statistics for people using drastic means right off the bat to try to lose weight permanently certainly calls such tactics into question. I had liposuction back in 2000 after reading that a study of non-dieting...

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Sorry, but these people sound like they wouldn't do much better at lunch if they could eat carbs. I agree with TexArk. I bet if the tuna gal had chopped up the almonds, mixed them in with the tuna and dressing at home and served it all on a bed of greens, it would have looked good and tasted pretty ...

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I can't even remember that I wrote that last post. I ate a fair amount of sweets this weekend again. I really felt tired of it last night. I wonder if I'll remember that next weekend. I've been reviewing information on using cognitive-behavioral techniques to combat OCD. I used some of those princip...

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I still didn't get any exercise in on Saturday, but I walked with a friend for an hour and did a kick-but Pilates class, too. I don't care that it wasn't a weekday. I am so happy to be moving again!

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Try to be a little easy on yourself while you figure these situations out. Reinhard is a fan of Brian Wansink who has shown over and over that just about everybody it susceptible to many eating cues out there. Doesn't mean you're weak. I like the packing up some of the food before I start. It remove...

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I broke down partly because I had been ill and it whacked out my eating. I found myself picking I think because I wasn't getting to experience my normal hunger and satiation rhythms that I have come to cherish. I was back to feeling deprived, but from lack of enjoyment rather than lack of food. I wo...

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Oh, for anybody nice enough to follow my thread, do any of you know debrabuf? I swear, I do not know how to use the search feature here. Several threads come up and I searched one of them and never found her. I told her about No S on Sparkpeople and she disappeared from there. I wanted to see how he...

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Haven't been weighing myself this month I had a weird event with vertigo and it set my eating off weird. I was nauseous and not getting hungry but eating took the nausea away. It hasn't been good not having my regular hunger and enjoyment of food. Plus I had fallen into old habits of eating after wo...

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Since my hospital trip, this is the first day I don't feel a little dizzy or a little nauseous. However, after a long sleep this morning, and a lazy afternoon, I am again tired. Don't know whether it's related or not.

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Remember the "sometimses," everyone!

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How about in the garage? But then you might find a reason to clean out the garage...

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I wasn't kidding, but it is worth

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Thalia, tell your husband if he wants to gain weight to limit his calories enough tomake him feel cranky and preoccupied with food for a week or two and then let go and gorge for a few weeks. Then repeat the cylce several times. It's worked for millions of dieters; it should work for him.

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I feel like I can't even remember yesterday. I only know I failed tonight. Damn, I haven't been worried up to now, but I am a little scared I might be sliding backwards even though I can fit into two pairs of pants that were pretty tight at the beginning of the summer. I feel stressed by work; it di...

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Wow, I am on shaky ground, figuratively and slightly authentically. My dizziness is dissipating but is not completely gone. I'm still trying to get caught up at work and just seem to get farther behind because of new work coming at me that keeps me from making a dent in what I missed. In any case, I...

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I still have problems on weekends after 19 months, but life is so much better, I'm still happy I'm on No S.

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I've been "sick" this week recovering from a severe case of motion sickness from an inner ear problem. I've been eating fewer veggies and fruits. I'm a little worried that I've gotten used to too many heavy carbs and will go overboard this weekend. I'm definitely aiming at thinking "sometimes."

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I've been doing this for August. I'll join you but allow myself to weigh on Sept. 1, if want.

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Yes, you do keep getting back up. I admire it. When you're tired, it's okay to sit down and even put your head down. You can do it for as long as it would have taken you to get the cookies and eat them at least, right! Though I know that can be lightening quick! Just remember it's not the fatigue th...

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I'm better. I did feel slightly queasy a lot of the day because I was moving around at work. However, I was glad to be back. I wasn't hungry most of the day but I drank some milky coffee and ate half of the cafeteria meal for lunch and the other half for dinner.

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I've been out of the loop for awhile and haven't read all I missed, but things sound good!

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Hope you're gearing up for the last half of the month.

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Just one more day until S days.

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Sounds like a good day. I like the variety of movement.

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The nausea has been gone, thank goodness, since Saturday. I've been able to look around the room close to natural for most of this evening.

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Thanks for your thoughts. It's really more inconvenient than anything. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to take over my classes again on Thursday. I certainly haven't starved!

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Really, it could be so much worse. I'm not in real pain, and doctors say no further damage is being incurred by the continued dizziness. It's mostly inconvenient, rather like a flu, but with no muscle-aching, fever, or sinus trouble. Just can't move around much! Hoping for the best tomorrow.

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I put this post up on the 90-day thread since typing is a bit of a challenge. I have missed being able to participate here so much? Hope to check in with you all personally soon. I have been out of commission (mostly bedridden) since Friday with what the doctors called labrynthitis. It has been diss...

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Hey, all. I'll put this on my check in thread too, but I have been out of commission since Friday with what the doctors called labrynthitis. It has been dissipating but it basically means when you open your eyes it looks like the room is turning. and heaving In the beginning, it was so severe that I...

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Only missed one walking session last week. Everything else green. It's hot today and I had an ushering gig that kept me up. Then I couldn't fall asleep. So tired in the morning and I had an out -of-town guest that I didn't want to disturb with my resistance exercises. I realize now it was a bit of a...

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San Diego January weather THE AVERAGE MINIMUM TEMPERATURE FOR THE MONTH IS 49.7 DEGREES, THE AVERAGE MAXIMUM 65.8 DEGREES AND THE MEAN 57.8 DEGREES. DAYTIME READINGS OFTEN REACH 70 DEGREES AND OCCASIONALLY 80 DEGREES AND ON JANUARY 10 IN 1953 ROSE TO A HIGH OF 88 DEGREES. WITH AN AVERAGE OF 7 DAYS W...

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Thanks for all your support and nice wishes, my friends! I realized another part of the problem was that I feel off balance in my own ability to read people. I'm pretty sure I've spent a lot less time in relationship than a lot of women my age (only about 12 years of the last 40), even the other "sp...

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Congrats! I'm pretty confident that the lessons in discipline, hunger, satiety, freedom, etc., with serve you well whether you lose weight quickly and stay with No S as is, or decide you need more serious mods.

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I absolutely used food today and found myself grateful that I had it to use. I definitely felt very fragile over a romantic issue that has me not shaken to my core but on the way. I feel upset with myself that I seem as needy and desirous as I do, and upset that I am so vulnerable to the fact that p...

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Sounds like a Sane vacation, by No S standards and especially, American standards.

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I am so glad for you, bextahude, that you have recognized this problem for yourself and found No S. It combines the best of many recommendations for those obsessed with food, though it wasn't intended for that. Good structure for the majority of the time, and a chance to explore freedom. I affirm yo...

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tobiasmom, you definitely had more exercise success than I did on your first 90 days. I also counted a lot of green days for you, more than 50, which, given that there were around 24 automatic yellow days, is pretty good.

Yay, mimi!

Hey, funfuture, where are you? With us in spirit? I hope so!

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Got in my non-required walk with a walking partner this morning, about 90 minutes exploring a new route in the hood. It wasn't too too hot but I think we may need to start meeting earlier.

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I got my exercise and green N day in, but I split up the cardio into a few bouts. Still, I already feel springier. I'm going to get something peppy in today, though it's optional. There is a dance class I love at 5:00 p.m., but it's in a terribly hot dance studio. Not going.

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I don't want to discourage you but I was down to 160 a few weeks back. Now I'm back to fluctuating in the 163-165 range. (However, this is down from the 167 range of a few months ago.) I thought the scale didn't have a hold on me, but I found it did. I went through a mini-depression and I think it s...

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There's money in them there eyebrows. What a doll!

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So many sweet things still taste fantastic to me. Maybe one in ten is meh. However, I still use stevia most days because I can't stand coffee without it and I don't like tea much. I'd like to think I could swear off it at some point for three weeks and see if it makes a difference. But not yet.

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I thought maybe I wasn't getting the updates of your daily check in. Glad you're doing more than reasonably well.

It's typical for people who lose a lot of weight to stable a bit higher than their lowest weight. Only you can tell if it's worth the extra vigilance.

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Lots of great data. With all that exercise, you must feel pretty vital and strong!

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Wow, I thought I had been posting here. Anyway, I've had three days all green this week. Not yesterday, but I feel good.

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success. Had pizza impromptu for lunch because Linda called a dept. meeting and provided lunch. Yum . Had my packed lunch for dinner.

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I don't mean to minimize what you're experiencing. I do know that my urges to eat came typically 2-3 hours after a meal. However, I did not have stomach hunger and getting past that time makes it easier. I do have milky coffee between meals as needed, as I've probably told you before.

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Keep saying, "I love savory. I love savory." and eat something very delicious that's not sweet. It's just a habit.

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Was tempted to have some fruit later after dinner because I went impromptu to an outdoor concert and picked up a burrito on the way. If i'd been home, I definitely would have included some cantaloupe with the meal. But on my way home, I realized I was not a bit hungry, so I forewent the extra food. ...

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Okay, two days in a row! The walking was split up, but I did it and I'm counting it.

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If you notice, thin people will often say no to food and don't seem to worry a bit about what the other person thinks. If they don't want it, they don't want it. End of story. If food didn't have a pull for you, it wouldn't be an issue. But you are training them as much as you are training yourself....

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Since we are not usually concerned with the scale here, I haven't talked about it a lot, but I went to a dance camp last week where I danced for several hours more than I would have every day, ate very similarly to what I would have at home (all green N days) and had one of the tamest weekends I've ...

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Trader Joe's makes a high fiber cereal that doesn't have a lot of sugar. I sometimes mix it with Fiber One because it stays more crunchy, but some people don't like that Fiber One has artificial sweeteners. i don't either, but it's a fallback choice. I shop discount stores which sometimes have offbr...

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Just keep saying to yourself, "I don't eat X during the week." Whatever your biggest issue is: snacks, sweets, seconds. In a way, it's funny to me that it even occurs to me to have a snack during the day because it has been so long since I've eaten snacks, but occasionally it will. I'll think, "Oh, ...

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No S and Intuitive Eating seem quite close to me, except that you don't get to/have to determine yourself when you are hungry enough to eat. The problem for me was that I would eat too soon and my eating was out of whack with the social milieu. Or I had to wait too long and would get impatient. On N...

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Had a fine day, even though I ended up skipping breakfast because there was nothing provided at the school rally all the teachers had to go to. got my exercise in, too.

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You've had a lot of input but I wanted to say I understand your predicament because I did massage in a beauty salon for 10 years. I had a lot of respect for those hairdressers. They worked like fiends, most of them, when they could get the business. (and there's no such thing as a paid vacation. The...

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Because I had to park so far from the day-one rally in my school district, I've already got my walking in and I did do my 14 minutes this morning. I'm not worried about the food part, although I did have to virtual plate lunch because of a change in the principal's schedule. I lolled a bit on the we...

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This really does combine the best of intuitive eating and structure, which I think helps for social purposes. Please also notice on the board we have another person who left the fold because of slow progress and ended up gaining weight. Take advantage of the focus on habit change rather than weight ...

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Eventually, you are going to have to eat relatively low cal, but it will come as an outgrowth of the gaps between meals and adjustments along the way, if you are being true to yourself about what you really need to satisfy yourself. Hope it works out this time!

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That pie sounds like you should need a prescription for it. Are you sure it's legal?

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It's just been a few weekends. You are doing great.

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Okay, here is a bump up so anyone who feels vulnerable on weekends can check in and share at tough moments, if s/he chooses. I've had a grazing morning. I'm done now until a possible early dinner or an early nosh and late dinner. Will play it by ear with a visiting friend and a couple of options for...

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That desire to use food to celebrate is very strong, but it's a very transient pleasure. The movie IS the celebration! I've heard it is pretty darn good.

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That family dinner experience can become the norm. It is just a habit to pair overeating with celebration and gatherings. They really can be just as fun with a little more than enough or even just enough!

Hope you get/got to dinner!

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I did great at the dance camp with regard to eating. I allowed myself to have dessert one night because it was someone's birthday and the head chef was making a big deal about the cake that would be served. It was terrible but for some reason, I guess I thought there wouldn't be another good one any...

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It sounds like you were putting a lot of pressure on yourself to have this all worked out very soon. It takes about two years of implementing and keeping new eating habits to signal that a person is unlikely to regain weight. Give yourself time! You're just learning to play the game. Why should you ...

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Sorry about the health problems in your family.

Just get through today green!

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Hang in there. It will smooth out, I believe, if you are convinced there are no alternatives. I can't see what they would be. You can choose to eat whatever you want at your meals, which would allow you to eat the foods on any diet, if you want. Just can't have the silly snacks. Have 'em at a meal! ...

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Hope you've recovered and are finishing the week green. Don't punish yourself this weekend!

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Got a little caught up. So glad for your daughter about her car! I have been in some tough times in my life. I am so grateful that my parents did help out when they did, though it was always for things that would allow me to make progress. They offered more than I accepted and I'm glad for that, too...

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Great job on all fronts.

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Selling No S isn't always easy? I think it's rarely easy. I think people don't trust themselves. They just can't believe they will stop wanting to eat so much without more specific limits. They are also used to the idea that if you get very hungry, you have to overeat at the next meal. I've done a l...

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Don't worry about letting us down. Just post when you can. If we keep up, and you get updates, it might help remind you that you want to at least increase your participation at any segment.

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Let's just stay here. Every time we post something, it will bump the thread up and bring more attention to it, so maybe it will attract more participation and it can be an ongoing thing. If it catches, it might become a sticky. I've had a good day but was busier than I wanted and haven't exercised! ...

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My first 90 days is over and I am starting a new one. I danced my @$ off at dance camp, so my fitness over the last few days was a given and my eating was great.

However, today is the beginning for me of my new round. I think that means Oct. 11 is my new end date.

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Had such a good eating day, going up to the Getty. We picnicked on one of the lawns and admired the landscaping and architecture. Later we had a fabulous Indian dinner. I did not even virtual plate anything because it was a combo dinner and everything came in single servings on an indented tray. I p...

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I believe the originator of the thread can amend the title. I know I repaired a mistake once before, but I don't remember how I did it.

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You'll probably remember why you quit when you get to a similar point of frustation. This time, you'll be compelled to find a way to work around it within No S's parameters: is it as simple as it can be? Is it sustainable and dpes it not take short-term heroic effort? Chances are, it won't be far off.

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That's what I love here: a perceptive, intelligent audience!

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Don't think I've seen it before.

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Those are a lot of changes! continued good luck.

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It really is just the beginning to a fabulous food life!

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I had the same problem with having pancakes and syrup for breakfast on Saturdays. Life is just better if I don't do that. I have to think about working in pancakes, though, because I do like them and with syrup, not just fruit. But I'm more likely to have them for dessert after a light meal than as ...

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I suggest you don't start mods yet. Three weeks is just getting going. Most people who eventually stay with it didn't use mods for a few months at least. You may think of that overeating behavior as a mistake but it is likely part of it. Paradoxical as it may seem, the sooner you drop the guilt over...

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Why not cut and paste this to the testimonial thread? Seems worthy.

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As in Babe ...?

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Even if we start a new thread, it can be ongoing, so newbies can jump in anytime and keep track on their own. That's the way the 21-day club works now, though it is a sticky. Since I'm the one who might start the new one, I'd just as soon wait until next Thursday, when my first one will be over, tho...

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The three meals a day on weekdays is pretty much a habit now. Taking S days is, too, though they don't usually represent the "sometimes" element. I just don't see a reason to go back to snacking on solid food in between my meals most days of the week. I rarely have to go more than 5, maybe 6 hours b...

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I have been thinking about this concept of excuses or reasons. Really, what is a good reason to eat? I used to have many more than I have now, and I use a lot of them on weekends, still. A favorite one used to be what in the store looks good enough and cheap enough to ignore my plan to "eat right." ...

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Does anybody else think that average of 4.9 for meals and snacks is low? That would mean less than 5 eating events a day, and I think a lot of people have gotten used to popping food in even more often between meals than that, though each time may not be a "whole" snack. And when people are out and ...

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I binge, too, but I was not willing to use any mods. I had been having some much better weekends, but this one wasn't one of them. Also, I wonder if you were perhaps limiting too much on N days? It's not good to leave all indulgences for weekends. What do you think when you imagine using mods on the...

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Why did you have so little at lunch? Just weren't that hungry? The peanut butter sandwich sounded good!

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