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The biscuit was the only solid food you had? And you couldn't have eaten anymore? Wow, I have a lot to look forward to. Is it age that makes us carry our own stuff? I'm going to remember the plastic baggies at the next potluck. There is always way too much food and I'm appalled at what people with t...

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Thank you for your comment on my check-in thread.

What an exciting concert! I'm sure the man knows how to put on a show!

oolala53

I haven't read your whole thread but you assessment of your S days last weekend is great insight!

oolala53

Again, had a pretty lazy day but my eating was fine. Just my three meals and not much temptation to eat more. I even skipped my mocha until after dinner. Also, my 94-year-old Zen teacher, Charlotte Joko Beck, died early this morning. She had not been suffering, and her daughter, a physician, said th...

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I felt a little pushy in my comment. I feel bad to think that I contributed to your second guessing yourself. It actually sounds like you are at the point where you could take 'em or leave 'em with regard to sweets on a weeknight. Not such a bad place to be! Two more days this week before S days. Ge...

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I'd say that the very fact that you think you have to have it after dinner is reason enough not to, esp, since you are probably not hungry! But it is absolutely your choice! And it is true that we all have to get used to moderate portions of sweets at some time. I know on Sparkpeople on two maintain...

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I don't know how many of these people were ever bingers. I know that I could not stand for the first 14 months of No S to try to rein myself in on S days, even though I had and have many compliant N days and I wanted so much to have sane S days. In fact, I don't consider N days much of a problem at ...

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Just want to let anyone new to No S that this is absolutely not a requirement for No S. Many adherents do get to the point as time goes on that they choose more and more fresh or whole foods, but that is entirely individual. I just got back from a trip and ate a fair amount of restaurant and fast fo...

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Uh-oh, I had a stack of pants and clamdiggers up in the closet that I had bought at thrift stores for a buck each. I told myself on Jan . 1 that if I couldn't at least zip them up on Mar. 21, I would give them away, but let myself off the hook, saying I would give myself until June 20. Which draws n...

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Keep at No S. What it takes to feel full will decrease. And you will like it less.

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The only times I have "forgotten" to eat was when I was on a medication that had appetite suppression as a "side" effect. Sometimes, on No S, I've gotten involved in some activities after work that kept me from getting home for quite awhile, so that there was about 6 or even 7 hours from lunch until...

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I'm bumping this up because a discussion started on one of the check-in threads of people who are struggling with S days. Hope people who feel this is an issue will come back around nearer the weekend or even on the weekend. I think those who made that transition quickly don't quite get this. It has...

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Just to remind or let you know, there is a thread for support for S day wild ones. I'll bump it up to get it back in view, but let's pledge to get on it Friday and possibly through the weekend to help each other out.

oolala53

Homemade tortillas? Homemade English muffins? Holy mackerel! I've been having an experience over and over recently where I sit down to my plate or as I'm preparing it, I'll think there isn't enough food, esp. the starch. Then as I eat it, I get full and it's enough. So enjoy you tortillas and Englis...

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Yeah, I started every Saturday for months with pancakes and syrup, one of my favorite binge foods. Didn't work out so well. I think I had them one morning in the last few months and the day didn't turn into a wild day, but I won't do that often. However, I'm not sure it will work to force changes, b...

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Keep at it! It's going to shake out.

oolala53

I got through today. Weirdly, I slept pretty much all afternoon. I've been home for 24 hours and have told just about no one. Having so much free time and nothing I absolutely have to do but lots I should do has been a problem in the past. I don't have an answer right now, but I'm checking in. Succe...

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I just had to say this. I went to McDonald's this morning on my trip and saw that their big breakfast, which fits on a plate, is 1,350 calories. I know that if I ate that at this stage, or even when I started No S, I would feel pretty lousy and would not get hungry for quite awhile. But still. I thi...

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Thanks, gals! Yes, I am feeling much better these days about weekends. Very little way overeating. I see the day coming when the weekends will be quite similar to N days without it feeling like I'm in a clamp. Almost no grazing this weekend. Feels like...hmmm, what would you call it? Oh, life.

oolala53

Sticking to No S will probably take away one issue of stress- the constant deciding all day long of should I eat this or not? Is it breakfast, lunch, or dinner? Yes. Is it not one of those? NO. That's it! exception for the medication issue. I have found this to be calming and confidence-boosting, af...

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Actually, Berry, I think you are the perfect No S-er after she has settled in. I know I've read or heard on a podcast that eventually, S days will look much like N days but with a special dessert SOMETIMES or a few snacks SOMETIMES, perhaps for relaxed social reasons.

oolala53

I had reason to go to AZ and now I am here in Utah. It's been a lot of driving. I've stuck to my eating plan with a little virtual plating, but not much exercise after two 6 1/2 hour days of driving. I finally got in about 50 minutes of walking today.

oolala53

Stuck to N days through Friday. Have been doing a lot of driving. Finally got a long walk in this evening.

oolala53

To get comfortable, it takes people anywhere from right away to having it be easy to failing completely and coming back after a year or two!

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Good golly, this got a lot of replies. I didn't read them all. I'm going to respectfully disagree with many others and not recommend that you up the calories. I've looked at many meal logs here and I would say many women are eating 1600 calories or less. The No S diet does not defy the laws of calor...

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Milky coffee with two teaspoons of cocoa and some stevia has been a nice alternative for 17 months.

oolala53

Not having children, I had never heard of this book before. It sounds great!

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I thought it might be the subliminal reason I never married that I could not understand women whose food habits are seemingly governed by their husbands. I certainly cannot fathom being married to someone who would try to control that either way, by strictness or excess. I don't tell men how to eat,...

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The physical results in blood chemistry is in the research. Brad Pilon of Eat Stop Eat fame recommends it partly for that reason but also as a lifelong way to restrict calories, since research has also shown a benefit for that, without having to monitor every dang meal. He just thinks that trying to...

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The series on What the World Eats by Faith D'Aluisio and Peter Menzel. (I was surprised by how much packaged food I saw in picture from Italy.) Stunning and sobering, at least for me.

oolala53

I looked up the Body Blade, but I can't find anything on the Body Bar. What is it, if I may ask?

oolala53

Did some virtual plating at lunch and dinner because of supplementing small meals with stuff I brought from my fridge on this trip. I feel okay about it.

oolala53

The point is not what we eat on any S day but limiting the number of times we allow random eating. For most people, the more times they eat, the more they overeat in total. I haven't read your whole thread, but I get the sense you've changed gears a lot. I've been at this 17 months and I'm just now ...

oolala53

Aack , still not fitting in exercise, but N days are good.

oolala53

Forgive me if I don't read through all your pages to see if your username means theater chic... all this time, I was thinking it was some Middle English or Welsh name!

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Ended up leaving late, so I didn't arrive until after 9 p.m. I brought a few things from the fridge, but ended up getting a sandwich at Subway on the way. Ate it in the car. Not calling that a fail. Didn't want to drive any longer in the dark than I had to so I ate on the go. It was about 6.5 hours ...

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It's amazing what things people will consider followable. Some people swear by being vegan, vegetarian, Paleo, clean eaters, raw fooders, etc. As Reinhard and others have said, it's got to be a way that gets a person to eat fewer calories than he or she needs until excess fat is burned off and then ...

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How about harvesting strawberries on the weekend, eating your fill as you go, and picking some extra for during the week? Or declare an NWS day just for strawberry harvesting. Then it's not a fail. Beside, I think if someone is consistently sticks to Vanilla No S, a Fail once awhile for strawberries...

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The point about coming home to housework followed by excessive eating, I think, is that situations don't MAKE us eat, stress doesn't make us eat, being exposed to certain foods doesn't make us eat, etc. They all increase the DESIRE to eat even when there is no true hunger. It would be nice to be abl...

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Had a good day today, though I wasn't that hungry and yet still had the desire to eat. However, I limited my eating to meal time and had a very reasonable day. Going on a trip and not a bit worried.

oolala53

Frozen bread and bagels are very easily warmed on George Foreman-type double-sided grills. I'm talking about the little ones, but no reason it wouldn't work on the big ones.

oolala53

I didn't! And unfortunately, the mint cookies taste pretty darn good frozen.

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But what does "as much as you want" mean?

oolala53

Oh, I didn't mean freezing it would protect it! Just that you could save it for the weekend. I've reheated or thawed many a frozen cookie or dessert with very good results! though fresh is ideal.

But I hear ya. Some weeks I don't chance having any sweets in the freezer or anywhere.

oolala53

I hope you see the absurdity of what she said, as if the fact that the cookies are warm is a good enough reason to eat them. As my mother used to say, what's that got to do with the price of eggs? I can say that most times, when something similar comes up, after 17 months, it really feels honest and...

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That is great news! Glad you've pretty much mended.

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Oh, yes, Grammy, much more so. I do still think about it all a lot. I've even thought of somehow trying to pursue a new career dealing with people with eating disorders and body image issues because I feel I've come far enough to be of some good to others. I know my N days are going to go well now; ...

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I've been having much better S days and only one N day failure since I last checked in, though I did take two NWS days, one in May and one in June. My weight stayed lower this weekend than it has in 1.5 years! Can this be? Can I actually live life without overeating? Wait, maybe I shouldn't jinx it ...

oolala53

Woohoo, you go, girl! Man, I've had so many of those S days, even since I started No S. In fact, about 15 months of them! They've started to dissipate! I FINALLY got tired of feeling so lousy. The overeating isn't completely gone, but so much better. And I've been able to exert a little willpower, t...

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So bingeing is inevitable? Because if portion control never ends, and it leads to bingeing, then bingeing seems like a given. Isn't everyone subject to portion control? Why doesn't everyone binge?

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I wouldn't do Paleo unless I was in real trouble. I love my whole wheat biscuits, my cooked rye and oats, my tortillas, my refried beans! And dairy. And I have lost, though I'm not thin yet. Another six months of better S days should help. You, too!

oolala53

I just finished a school year, but I still feel the effects of the year before. I had been asking for years to teach advanced students--well, I got three classes of them the first year. I was in way over my head in terms of grading so many papers; these students actually did their work! And in so ma...

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How's it going, Idontknow? Let us know what's happening.

oolala53

It's often true that the body will put up a little resistance to changes in weight, but consistently ignored cravings and urges to overeat will ebb and flow and ebb. It's the giving in at the peak of the craving, not the will to survive, that makes the cycle of overeating stronger. Even if there are...

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I have heard of the Paleo Diet and I'm surprised your doctor actually recommended it. Doctors usually think "those" diets are nonsense. I came on it after reading a book related to it called Neanderthin. The author completely recovered from debilitating rheumatoid arthritis with it. I don't doubt th...

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Enough is better than more than enough. Triggers make me WANT to eat. They cannot MAKE me eat. I can move my hand toward food or away from it. I use this next one to remind myself that eating is only one part of my life: "To identify oneself with the body and yet seek happiness is like attempting to...

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So what is your new thread? Am I already following it? Because I want to.

oolala53

You must be pretty cook bakers or not around some of the awesome bakeries and such we have around here. Also, I still can't be trusted not to eat too much of the dough or batter. Believe me, I've tried. Maybe next year. I've actually given up most baking just because it's so easy to find good stuff....

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Why is the protein purple? Anyway, I like it. It's actually close to what I've been choosing for a few years. No S helped me cut way down on what I was eating not on the plate. I think it is a HUGE improvement, and restaurants and fast food restaurants can start taking advantage of it by providing m...

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I suggest you examine your habits before No S and determine which of the habits might be the worst culprit contributing keeping the ten pounds on you. Somehow you are eating more than even your fast metabolism can burn. Some people incorporate only one S at a time. You might need only one or two of ...

oolala53

Welcome! I think you'll find that if you really stick to the rules, eventually emergencies will not make a difference. It won't matter what the situation is or the food available or the emotions felt. When it's mealtime, you eat and when it's not, you don't. The fewer random decisions you have to ma...

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Starting desserts on Friday is a slippery slope. I have to say so is starting your weekend at midnight, IMHO. It's not the spirit of the law at all to include an extra few hours of eating. Speaking from experience. I'm glad you didn't do it. Really, it will be too easy to keep finding reasons to mak...

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I've been using a motto I made up a few months ago. Be tough on yourself before you break your own rules and gentle, if need be, after. Truth is we're usually too easy on ourselves, talking ourselves into eating immoderately before we do it, and then berating ourselves afterwards. For habit change, ...

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It is very common for people new to a system be very excited. Try to realize you will have all kinds of feelings and thoughts for quite awhile. Please think of it in terms of months, as you seem to be. And then years. It accommodates so many personal quirks while allowing people to be social, too. D...

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Three failures in all three areas? I haven't done more than one 30-minute walk this week for exercise. I guess I'm not the best cheerleader for this, even for myself. But, I'm not going to say I'm throwing in the towel yet. I've got a dance camp to get ready for.

oolala53

Congrats!

I made it yesterday and had a spectacular failure today.

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Chocolate licorice?

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I still haven't gotten into exercising, but I checked the scale today because I have been having an easy time with eating and was curious. I did weigh less than I have in about a year, I think, but I don't count on it to stay down. However, I'm tired of bouncing up so high after my weekends. I have ...

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Great! I've been doing nothing and need to get revved again. I'm still not going to start over, though.

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Neat-torpedo! So nice you have an ally for your new life

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Along with fearless adoption of No S, I suggest plunging yourself into developing a new interest, perhaps something you've had on the back burner for a long time. Now would be a good time to increase your friendship circle or spend more time with those you wish to as well. I know in my own case a lo...

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I've been compliant since I last checked in. Still grazed more than I wanted on the weekend, but less than even just a few months ago. However, I keep bouncing around the same weight. I keep thinking in the back of my mind that I am going to straighten out my weekends and get regular exercise and TH...

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You're lucky you found No S now. I can tell you you could have gone on another 15 years at this food problem. I feel I am healing, finally. Have fun!

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I was thinking this morning about how I have a times stopped at a market and bought a bag of chocolate candy and started eating it before I got to work. Then on the way home from a banquet, it came to me that I used to stop and buy containers of frosting and eat them after such an event. I didn't th...

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Actually, for some people who may be struggling, this is an important question. Those who often overeat also often have low frustration tolerance. Not being able to solve problems like this can send some people on an eating spree. They will say the situation MAKES them overeat, but the situation can...

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I have two copies on hand. One for me and one to give away if the interest is there. I sent one to someone unbidden; he thought that was overkill, but he forgave me. He's still got a tummy, though.

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I knew the difference even before I started No S. I think down the line it is very useful to know because it will make a difference in how much food you learn it takes to satisfy you. Ironically, if I start a meal without first being hungry, it actually takes more for me to feel full. On S days in t...

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Wow, you sure handled this well. Not just in gettng rid of the donuts, but in not freaking out! I think I would have been a bit more upset. If I buy breakfast, it's because I'm hungry!

oolala53

So funny you posted this. Did you see the topic on Binge Eating Disorder just posted? There is hope. You just have to get through a some stints of multiple N days, even if you can't do five a week right away.

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Although you sound as if you have this licked, (don't say it) I'm glad you've brought this up. I've wanted to have a thread for those who consider themselves bingers. (Don't know if this will be it; there are a couple of other recent ones that might quality, one of which is ongoing support for S day...

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So, when is it official? After lunch?

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Isn't that funny? Can't say that I don't still eat a fair amount of sweets, but there are times, and I don't even have to be stuffed, where I imagine eating something and it just doesn't appeal. That is what it must be like for thin people all the time!

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Isn't that funny? Can't say that I don't still eat a fair amount of sweets, but there are times, and I don't even have to be stuffed, where I imagine eating something and it just doesn't appeal. That is what it must be like for thin people all the time!

oolala53

I'm going to be a bit grave here and point out some things. No S is not offered as a program for reversing health problems, and I'm pretty sure Reinhard would be the first to say it. It sounds to me like your doctor may be quite worried about you. Do you think she was overestimating the problem? I'm...

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It almost seems like a public service NOT to follow the trends.

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Although real stomach-empty hunger is not an emergency, and can be tolerated, let's just be sure we're distinguishing it from urges to eat that do not arise from hunger. Many people new to No S only discover the difference by becoming compliant on N days. Those fake hunger signals must be resisted w...

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There are different versions of it on youtube, some of which are slower. I wonder a little how accurate it is, as some states can go backwards in stats from year to year, getting fatter, then thinner, then fatter. But I imagine it's true in general. The west is trying to hold out because we have to ...

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I suggest you don't drink too much during your meals. Make sure you eat enough in the beginning to get you to the next meal. You might get too full with water. Later, when you cut your food, you can up your liquids. Just my idea.

You will like this.

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wikipedia says it was the BMI was invented in the 1850's. I'm pretty sure that's what was used for this data.

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It's hard not to think of the fall of the Roman Empire.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihSeSTo ... e=youtu.be

Good Lord, what is going to turn this around?

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Don't know how I missed this great discussion. I wanted to start a thread just for wannabe ex-bingers, as I think our problem is trickier than just being a simple overeater (which is tricky, I know) or definitely being just an opportunistic/ entertainment eater, which I think is what Reinhard was. T...

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I had a decent day yesterdsy. Didn't eat to that sick feeling and didn't wake up feeling really full. I actually got hungry for breakfast before 8 a.m. It's often noon on Sundays, yet I don't feel content before I eat. I often wish I was hungry, but not today.

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I visited the Monterey Bay Aquarium last June. Beautiful place, but man, was it cold outside!

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What is baked oatmeal?

oolala53

Cool! Yeah, I figure my N days are the structure and on S days, I get to try to practice a relaxed version of intuitive eating. It's when I really have to try to put what I've learned from SY and other books on BED to work. However, most of my binge eating in my opinion is now for entertainment/plea...

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I'm glad to hear you say that. Bingeing is my problem, too. I say "is" because I still have some wild S days, but life is so much better. I participate on Sparkpeople on a Living Binge free team, and I know a few people have starting using No S because of me. It's been a mind/life saver.

oolala53

I don't have much of a social life, though I'm working on it. If I did, I might take an NWS day one Friday a month. I actually rarely take NWS days and I hope to keep it that way.

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Did I mention I've been No S-ing for 16 months? I've found that it is not linear. I sometimes go through days that are a challenge even now, but it's not the challenge of "staying on a diet," or it doesn't feel like that. It just feels like it's a challenge sometimes to be moderate. A lot of things ...

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