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I should add that I'm not rigid about avoiding processed foods. I think if 80% of what I eat is real food, I can be flexible about the remaining 20%.

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mrsj wrote:
I want to be a member of thisclub! Something to aspire to. Do skirts count?

Sure!

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In the past I've mentioned that I have congestive heart failure and my doctor told me he didn't care how much salt I used in cooking and at the table as long as I avoided processed foods and fast/casual chain restaurant foods. It's not the standard advice, but it works very well for me. This does me...

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I posed these about a year ago. They're from Clara's Kitchen -- of the Great Depression Cooking videos on YouTube. I enjoyed these from the book: If you don't think you have time to exercise, just clean your kitchen. I think it's kind of silly -- the people jogging. Scrubbing my floors and counters ...

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Not sure whether Taubes' book covers it (I plan to read it, but not sure when as I don't read much these days and have a pile of "must read this" books already) but we should remind ourselves, the diets of the past and in the third world today are in conjunction with a high level of obligatory acti...

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BrightAngel -- I want to make sure I'm understanding what Taubes is saying. Is he saying that insulin sensitivity causes obesity?

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If I really didn't put enough on my plate I'll do one of two things -- assuming it's immediately after a meal: I'll add enough of something to fill the plate. Or, I'll wait 20 minutes and see how I feel. If I'm still hungry, I'll have more of dinner. However, I usually fill my plate even if I don't ...

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Welcome back!!

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Great! I'm glad that works for you.

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I agree, Nicest, but I think if you eat away from home infrequently it's not so much of a problem. Obviously, if you eat out daily it's an issue.

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Good for you!!

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WOW your treats sound great. I'm still in diet mode I think because I haven't allowed myself to get that decadent yet without fear that I would go insane and eat everything but with each passing week this diet head is diminishing. I think there are three tricks to not going insane and eating everyt...

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I love the liquid in those red and white cans, too.

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I was thinking the same as KCCC. You've been spending a lot of time worrying about food.

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Generally it's sweets, most often it's good cookies. Part of the reason for this is that if I want something like potato chips or corn chips or fries, they can be part of a meal -- without guilt. Maybe not the best choice, but a perfectly legal choice. Example: last night I planned to have a bean di...

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I agree with Blithe Morning. I don't often go to McDonald's (as in I don't remember the last time I was there), but, nine times out of ten when I do, I want a double cheeseburger with fries and a Coke. And that's what I have. As long as it fits on the plate, it's okay.

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The only one that bothers me is the "does it have more than 5 ingredients?" This is only because I've seen it carried to extremes; even to recipes with more than 5 ingredients.

Other than that -- I love it and that's pretty much how I shop.

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I asked. Many of us have found that treats really need to be treats. I either bake something and plan for it to be a treat or go to a good bakery (usually not the one at the grocery) and pick a treat. But the bottom line is -- really treat worthy. I've never heard of chocolate causing cravings. I wo...

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I've sometimes had S days when I didn't feel like having an S -- or it just didn't happen.

Just to clear something up -- 21 days of No-S DOES include S days.

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I'm so glad to hear that someone else is triggered by cocoa --- oh no that came out wrong, as I'm sorry to hear you are triggered but I mean I don't feel alone or crazy. I have gone 4 days without cocoa or chocolate of any kind and I have no cravings. Today is an S day and I was planning a chocolat...

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I allow myself one S daily, but that doesn't mean I take one daily. It's an option. It's really about the same number of S's as when I kept them to weekends and other special days -- just spread out over the course of the week. I've noticed no difference in my weight. I do watch the portions, though.

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I walked through Barnes and Nobles and Diet books attacked me from every angle. I am sticking to no s and i will not be tempted. Someone posted something about carbs and I will repeat myself here. going no or low carbs, cals, or whatever is like going under water. It is okay right at first, but you...

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As KCCC said in her FAQs post, it's not if you're going to have a failure, but when . I don't understand why we expect NOT to have failures, especially early on. In fact, if you follow this for the rest of your life and have one failure every nine days, you're still way ahead of the game. No matter ...

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Here's another article with ideas similar to Bittman's:

Resolved: Eat Better, Not Less, for a Healthier Diet

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I think it's time to repost these:

Our National Eating Disorder and Unhappy Meals.

If you like these, you'll like In Defense of Food and Food Rules

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I'm just going to plan to eat clean and see what happens. Right now I have to concentrate on getting sugar out of my diet and get the cravings under control. Sigh. Another term I'm already sick of: "clean eating." I think putting emphasis on "clean eating" or "healthy eating" just adds to the guilt...

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No, it's not a snack -- not even with milk or cream and sugar.

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I'll second the recommendation to read In Defense of Food or his book Food Rules , which is simpler and easier to digest. In terms of the fries, here's his rule #60: Treat treats as treats There is nothing wrong with special occasion foods, as long as every day isn't a special occasion. This is anot...

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gettheweightoff wrote: If they get too tempting I'll just throw them out but for now I look at it like I had a nice meal... and now... it's over!

As long as you don't eat them as a snack, no problem in eating the leftovers.

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Compared to people in other parts of the world and to our own ancestors, we get a much higher percentage or our calories from fat and protein than from carbohydrates. Ever heard that old saw about â€œall the rice in Chinaâ€? Well, thatâ€™s what they eat, mostly. Itâ€™s their chief source of calorie...

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Failures are to be expected. Don't beat yourself up. Just mark it and move on. Don't expect perfection or you'll always be upset with yourself.

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I don't weigh myself (even though I should for a medical reason). I've been at this for over 4 years now and I think my weight has pretty much stabilized. I'd like to weigh a little less, but it's not a big deal. But think about it -- all those healthy groups of people around the world -- the Japane...

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I think one of the worst things we've done to ourselves is to label food, especially real food, as "healthy" or "unhealthy." I don't know if you baked them or fried them, but either way, they're not a bad choice.

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I eat carbs. And I read very little about other diets, especially if they limit food groups.

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Bittman is on the Today Show today making the three recipes from the article. Here's the video.

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I would count anything you were already doing before you started No S as not being a mod. Before I started No S, meals in our house were already served buffet-style, with the food in the kitchen, rather than in serving plates on the table. We did this because it means there are fewer dishes to clea...

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Welcome, Stackdiesel! My ex-husband and his father both ate like your father (no pushups, though). Though they certainly wouldn't eat 10 chocolate chip cookies on any given night, they would eat a dish of ice cream or a bowl of popcorn if offered. But that was it. They did that from the time my ex w...

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Welcome, flutterby7!

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Good article by Mark Bittman! I hope it makes people get into the kitchen! I do, too, but I think that many of the people who would benefit most from reading that will never see it. Either it's just not something they read about, or they don't read the NYT online or in print. I've been thinking abo...

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That is interesting -- and I've just recently found it to be true. The dog is lovin' the extra walks! The Times has a series of articles called A Sustainable Life: Tara Parker Pope on Love Tara Siegel Bernard on Money Mark Bittman on Food James Gorman on Invasivores David Pogue on Tech

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I second Pam Anderson's How to Cook without a Book . I would also add the Better Homes Cookbook (red and white checkered), and The Joy of Cooking . I'd agree about the Better Homes & Gardens cookbook and also The Betty Crocker Cookbook . Those are the two I used when learning to cook. Joy of Cookin...

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Very different from The Carb Lovers Diet: Eat What You Love, Get Slim For Life : The editors of Health Magazine (and top nutrition scientists) have big news: Eating carbs is the best way to get and stay slim. Breakthrough research revealed in this book shows how certain carb-rich foods--especially ...

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I feel sort of irritated that when I try to be positive on this board it gets turned around on me and I feel dejected. Can't anyone say "great attitude" or that this type of thinking sounds healthy. One thing I've found in participating at various discussion boards is that when I most want to elici...

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I agree, but you knew that! :D Here's what I posted about this some time ago. One thing I've noticed about eating mostly real food is that I get hungry, but getting food isn't an emergency. I can wait, and usually I can wait several hours. My guideline is 80% (or more) real food and 20% (or less) st...

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Welcome back!

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When I was working I took my lunch, too. I didn't actually "plate" a meal, but I have a fairly standard lunch (mine is soup, bread, and fruit) and packed that.

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I don't have cable anymore. Sniff.

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After I watched this I watched the angry cat...drove my dog crazy!

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Cute! Sweet temptation...

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I absolutely agree with you about Bittman's How to Cook Everything . I like the yellow edition better than the newer, red one, too. One of the things I like best is that many of the recipes include variations. I'm particularly fond of Pam Anderson's (no, not that Pam Anderson!) How to Cook Without a...

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You know, on the topic of grain based diet of populations elsewhere in the world, I was also thinking about past populations. I believe the usual diet of a Roman Legionnaire was mostly grain(oats) with little meat or animal products? They were physically robust enough to conquer the known world inc...

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Thank you. I read the excerpt from "Why We Get Fat..." A problem I see with this rather comprehensive change in diet is finding substitutes for the starches, grains and sugars that do not force me to become a chef or a pauper. Cost has been one of the biggest complaints about the high-protein, low-...

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As a scientist and writer myself, I can vouch for this. I can make anything sound good/credible and give you a whole page of references to boot. Doesn't make it True (with a capital T) though. Fortunately, (or not) most people stick to writing what they believe to be true. Then you have to decide i...

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I've not read either of Taube's books I think he's a prime example of how anything can be proved using research. Taubes' is a controversial science journalist, not a diet guru. He is famous because of his extremely accurate and thorough reporting of the past 100 years of research in this area. As y...

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I've not read either of Taube's books, though I have read things written by him about the books (I can't find the one I read about the newest book). I think he's a prime example of how anything can be proved using research. To be fair, I think the same of many of those promoting high carb diets. It'...

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I've got to say I think boiled chicken, especially skinless chicken, is tasteless and boring. I don't even boil the chicken for chicken soup! But if you like and that's what you want to eat, it's perfectly okay.

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I agree with ZippaDee. I don't think we should look at most S days as being days to eat whatever you want whenever you want it -- as Kapluska said, "complete liberty." I think that is as abnormal as not taking S days. I think complete liberty should be reserved for no more than 3-4 days per year and...

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It's impossible to fail on S days. I don't think most S days are license to over-indulge, but they are times to relax and have a sweet, snack or seconds. I think the only S days that it's okay to really overindulge are Thanksgiving, Christmas and maybe Super Bowl Sunday or some other days that are s...

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And I also agree with the others. You're being way too hard on yourself. I wouldn't even consider what you ate a binge. The day didn't turn out as you planned and you overate. By going No-S always, you're cutting out a huge portion of the joy related to eating and other life events, setting yourself...

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If you want to eat 2 pounds of boiled chicken with lots of veggies over the course of a week -- enjoy!

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I'd recommend being on No-S 3 to 6 months before making modifications. Most of us still don't really have the habits down before that. There's no point in modifying something you haven't mastered.

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Sharpie wrote: I'm worried that Monday will come and I'll decide just to keep eating like I did over the holiday.

Well, if that's what you decide to do, then that's your decision, your choice. I don't think that's the decision you want to make, though.

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Yea, you might mess up a little. Don't worry about it. Everything gets back to normal on Monday. But remember, S days are NOT a license to overindulge. They're to relax and enjoy yourself.

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I think it's reasonable to expect to lose 1/2-1 pound weekly. Although that's pretty slow, slow weight loss tends to be more permanent weight loss. It took you 3 years to gain that 20 pounds. Don't try to get it off in 3 months. My kids are about 2 years apart and when they were the ages yours are, ...

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I'd like to let the newbies know that you're going to have good days, you're going to have bad days, and you're going to have downright awful days. Expect it and accept it. Acknowledge whatever mistakes you've made and move on. Don't worry about being perfect. Perfectionists waste too much time (not...

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If there are leftovers that I don't want (rare, but it happens) or that don't keep well, I get rid of them immediately.

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I taste nearly everything I cook because no matter how simple it is, no matter how standard the ingredients, no matter how carefully you measure or if you don't measure, dishes turn out different every time. But a taste is just that -- a taste. It's not a bowlful or a plateful or even a spoonful.

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We've all had bad days, weeks, or even months. I think the trick is just to move on. Don't dwell on it; move on!

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Floating S days are those extra, special events each of us tends to have monthly. It could be your birthday or the birthday or family or special friends, anniversaries and so on. They are taken in addition to the regular Saturday and Sunday S days. Vanilla No-S is No-S as written without any modific...

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My personal take is not to be crazy about things like this. I suppose it depends on the individual, but I have a pretty good sense with how much is enough for me. I often eat things on separate plates as my boyfriend and I frequently like to do appetizers before our meal. I can still tell when it l...

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I do soup nearly every day for lunch. I usually put the bowl on a larger plate and have bread and fruit on the plate, and sometimes raw vegetables too. Though sometimes I put a sandwich on the rest of the plate, sometimes a salad and sometimes leftovers from a meal.

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Welcome!

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An interesting point of view, but I find myself thinking that just because people abuse alcohol doesn't mean it's all bad. I know there is a difference and some wise person here will probably be able to point it out, but I for one like having access to sugar substitutes, stevia most often in my cas...

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osoniye wrote:Oh boy, I love both!!!

Me, too!

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Welcome, Rich! (with spray butter - though maybe regular butter is better?. Real butter gets my vote. First, I don't think spray butter is made from ingredients we should be consuming. I couldn't find an ingredients list online -- really not a good sign. Second, real butter, while certainly high in ...

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I would vote against this. Not only is it impossible to define "only healthy ingredients;" the beauty of No S is that it's a sytem that includes ALL foods in moderation. Salads, veggies and fruit are a part of my No S experience, but so are cheeseburgers, asiago cheese bread and spaghetti with meat...

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Although really the best policy is to just let people have their prejudices, since we all definitely have our own, what may have been going on down deep is the idea that you make exceptions when the stakes are high enough. For example, many here have learned that they would have a moderate serving ...

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I agree with KCCC. I avoid any artificial food.

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If the 3 plates works, why do we need a fast track. Three plates works, but it usually works pretty slowly. It's not unusual for someone to initially go a couple of weeks or a month without weight loss and it continues to be slower than most weight loss plans. However, it also tends to be more perm...

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I don't weigh myself, either. In fact, I don't own a scale.

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BrightAngel wrote:

For me, Thinking about it, doesn't necessarily have to be conncected to Eating it.

I think about food constantly, but I eat three meals daily. I also don't necessarily connect thinking about it with eating it.

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Nicest of the Damned wrote:Couple of kinds of delusional thinking going on here.

First is the idea that some foods are "bad" and should be completely taboo. Now, this makes some sense- you probably shouldn't eat any amount of things like rat poison.

No, but you can take them as medicine!

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Congratulations! I had my kids before there was all this dietary advice. I didn't concentrate on one thing or another or eliminate anything (including liquor -- though I'm not much of a drinker anyway). Both times it was one of the only times I wanted beer! I think I ate everything they now say to a...

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I've made it four or five times now and it's very good. I also used part of one loaf to make pizza crust and it was very good, too. I just let it rise once before making the pizza crust.

I substituted oil for the spray, brushed it on plastic wrap and covered the bread with that.

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Here's my advice: it doesn't make any sense so don't think about it.

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No, it doesn't mean you don't have S days. It means that you follow No-S as written for 21 days, which includes S days on the weekends and/or holidays and special days. No modifications to No-S during that time.

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Larry, take a deep breath and relax -- and don't worry in advance. Enjoy the holiday and if you overdo, take it easy the next day or two. Still three plates of food, but maybe lighter than normal if you've over done.

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Happy Holidays to all!

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I used to have the same problem. As long as it was set out as one meal -- it was one meal. Over thinking it just complicated the issue and I'm all for simplicity. Don't over think it and do what works best for you. There's no law that says this can't or shouldn't count as one meal.

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I found this one in a local biweekly newspaper. I've made it at least four times since I found the recipe. I've also used part of a recipe to make pizza crust. As a loaf or as pizza crust -- it's very good. And it is simple. The link has pictures only: http://broadripplegazette.com/images/v07n24/rec...

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Thanks, Wosnes - those are good links. Amazing how good ideas keep getting recycled. Interesting how little overlap there is between the two "starter list" of words. I really do like this idea. I'm "listening for my word" right now. :) I remember 3 or 4 from Carol the Coach, but I could only find t...

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funfuture wrote:It's summer here, so we tend to have a mixture of traditional and salady foods - seafood (e.g. king prawns), ham, turkey (the meat is often served cold) and salads and bread...followed by Christmas pudding, brandy butter and fruit salad...

The cold meal sounds good.

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I agree with Nicest -- the more things you try to add, the more likely you are to fail. Many of us have modified No-S in one way or another, but we've been following it for months or years before we changed things to better suits our needs.

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I agree. If nothing else, "cheat" has a negative connotation. When do you cheat and it's a good thing? It's always implies you're going to get caught doing something bad.

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We've had ham and scalloped potatoes for years. My daughter is cooking this year and she's making a turkey. She's already emailed to find out how to make dressing and gravy.

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I remember Vienetta, but I haven't seen it for years. Could be that I haven't looked, either.

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The piece from the BBC about what others eat for Christmas is very interesting. The shrimp and rice caught my eye, but it all looked good. Here's a similar piece from The Today Show. Again, it all looks good, and I'm really craving some meatballs. Herring, too. I've not had that in years! No, I'm no...

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Bright Angel, I saw this one mentioned on The Today Show yesterday. Found these referring to it at prevention.com http://www.prevention.com/400/ http://www.prevention.com/health/weight-loss/weight-loss-tips/400-calorie-meals-how-to-get-started/article/b1d0152ac4e95210VgnVCM10000030281eac____ http://...

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Well, we won't be seeing it here. Too much cloud cover. Somehow watching it on my computer doesn't seem as compelling as watching it from my window.

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I'm sorry, I must be having a "duh?" day, but I don't understand this post at all.

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