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wosnes

I've not nursed a baby for a long time, but as long as you're eating and drinking enough, there's no reason that following No-S should affect your milk supply. You might need to add a 4th meal or have something between meals.

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Welcome aboard! Sounds like you're on the way to a lifetime of good eating habits. Congratulations!

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Kevin, this might actually work for me. There's the added "incentive" of Monday morning weigh-ins to try to keep Sunday evening sane. Thanks! Bear in mind...when you weigh on Monday morning, you'll have the actual weight of the food consumed Sunday evening -- not weight you may have gained from eat...

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Welcome to No-S!

wosnes

We start S days Friday after dinner. It's not a big deal. If we have a small ice cream it doesn't throw off the whole weekend. At this point the S days are pretty moderate compared to the year we joined NoS, when we would have major "fiestas" every weekend religiously! LOL Now it's usually more lik...

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Generally it's some kind of baked treat -- but nothing really fancy. I'm not a fan of the "death by chocolate" sorts of things. If I don't bake something on Friday for the weekend, I might purchase something at the farmer's market on Saturday morning. Sometimes there's no plan at all -- and sometime...

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Well, John, I've been staring and staring at your posts here at a loss as to what to suggest when I remembered something. Try eliminating the soy milk and replace it with something else -- rice milk or cow's milk or whatever. Some years ago I used soy-based meat products and had feelings like hunger...

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We used to routinely go out on Friday nights, so I started the weekend with Friday night and ended Sunday afternoon. It worked very well for me. We no longer do that, so I start the S days on Saturday.

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John, what you do eat at your meals? You may have answered this before, but seeing it would be helpful.

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One day I remembered a BRITISH hypnosis download for weight loss that I had from quite a while back. I had been disappointed by it because it's premise was "ISLANDS OF REST BETWEEN 3 SENSIBLE MEALS A DAY." That was so far from all the AMERICAN mumbo jumbo I'd read about eating I promptly ignored it...

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Or so I When pressed for a reaction to my experiment, hubby said he would eat it whenever I made it but it wasn't something he'd particularly look forward to. When I made something my ex didn't like, the only thing he'd say was that I didn't need to make it often. Now I remember one of the big reas...

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I know what you're talking about and I can't remember who wrote it either. I want to say LA Loser. I have my own criteria -- whioh I think is much simpler: Is this something (or someone) I would change all my plans for? If the answer is "yes", it's S day worthy. Often times I already have changed or...

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Braden, when I was about your age I lost 30 pounds over one summer -- without "dieting." The only thing I did was walk more. I wasn't walking for exercise, but as a means of transportation. I continued to walk a lot for the next, oh, 25 years or so. Never had a problem with my weight and I ate well....

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Potatoes are not a refined carb. They're a whole food. What I wrote a while ago about white rice applies to potatoes: Rice is a thoroughly sustaining food. According to Jeffrey Alford and Naomi Duguid in "Seductions of Rice," a beautiful, well researched survey of rice traditions around the world , ...

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Things from the 70s are relics? I have -- and use nearly daily -- kitchen things from the 30s and earlier that belonged to family members. So do I! My grandparents had just died when I went to college, and I inherited much of their kitchen gear. Some of it I've never needed (or wanted) to replace. ...

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Don't worry about being perfect, just do your best. That varies from day to day (sometimes minute to minute) depending on lots of things. But if you always do your best, you've got nothing to feel bad or beat yourself up about.

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It definitely makes sense. I'm guessing that since you're not eating as many carbs, that probably helps, also (since eating too many carbs can be very bloating). I find that to be true -- especially with whole grains. Refined grains not nearly so much. The processed foods are high in sodium, which ...

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Congratulations!

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I generally have 5-6 hours between meals -- sometimes longer.

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Oh....mushroom barley soup. I found a great recipe online last year. I'll have to see if I can find it again!

Update: I found it:
http://bitten.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11 ... rley-soup/

wosnes

bluebunny27 wrote:
The egg timer bit makes me laugh ... sounds like it was a relic from the 70's you had to dig up from an old cardboard box in the basement to use, hehe

Things from the 70s are relics? I have -- and use nearly daily -- kitchen things from the 30s and earlier that belonged to family members.

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Lol @ Kevin! Additions to the list: Barley (I adore barley) and butternut squash and pumpkin. :) Oh, I had some of the best butternut squash soup for lunch today -- from a restaurant. Roasted butternut squash simmered in chicken broth then pureed with a little Pernod and curry added. A walnut garni...

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Congratulations! Could it be lack of or minimal processed foods?

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Comfort food is what I made for dinner last night...Chicken and Dumplings. I could eat that every night! You and me both! When I was a little girl, my mom used to take me to the next town to shop and we always went to one restaurant for lunch. I don't remember ever having anything but their chicken...

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Ummm! Crock-pot applesauce, chicken pot pie, meatloaf and mashed potatoes, chicken puffs, and homemade chicken noodle soup! Yum! (Not all at the same meal, of course! :roll: ) Mimi :D Mimi, what are chicken puffs? I made meatloaf last week and it was so good! Today our highs will be in the 40s and ...

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Well, I make soup all year, so not that so much, but beef stew, chicken and dumplings/noodles/pot pie (homemade)/biscuits, polenta with bolognese, chicken and dressing casserole with gravy. Oh, yum! The temps here are 10-15 degrees cooler than normal, but I've only had the heat on a couple of times ...

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Americans are certainly more extreme about their food than I see in other countries...Dieting shows off Americaâ€™s extremism. And, of course, if dieting worked, there would not be so many heavy and obese people. Our diet gurus of the moment are the grand marshals of our endless parade of â€œscient...

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I just saw the link to the Zuppa Tuscana. Sounds great -- I'll be making that later this week!

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This reminds me a lot of simple lunches -- bread, cheese, fruit, and raw vegetables. Simple and simply satisfying.

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I always enjoy the comments as much as the article. In the comments I found this, which looks interesting. Not a substitute for No-S, but interesting: http://www.deardrabby.com/ Perusing the New York Times, I also found an article about Jamie Oliver and the American Diet: http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

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I think it's more important to do what works for you and what you can do for the rest of your life than to blindly follow "the rules." "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." Buddha...

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I guess my first question is: I eat soup with my dinner (miso AKA a light soup). That's not part of my one plate, so it that not allowed? Or should I make it a small bowl that could be considered with my one plate? The soup helps to fill me up so that I don't eat as much. I have a different take on...

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guadopt1997 wrote:That's why I don't like chopped mixed salads like Cobb. Every bite tastes the same and it gets boring after a while.

I like Cobb salad, but you could do it more like a Nicoise with everything separate and enjoy the different tastes.

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just experimenting

Blue, I did exactly what you did and it worked. I typed it in instead of using the drop down menu, though.

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I'm not thrilled about walking in the cold, but both the dog and I need the exercise. I'd rather walk in the cold than the heat. I can always add more layers if necessary; I can't always remove enough (and not worry about getting arrested for public indecency) when it's hot.

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I've been able to find "plain" heavy cream at The Fresh Market. One thing about the ultra-pasteurized -- it lasts a lot longer than the unpasteurized!

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I don't find it the least tempting. It's usually just something in a plastic container someone picked up at the grocery store bakery. I do, however, find it...'sad' maybe? - to see how even though many schools are eliminating sweets at parties, the teachers 'reward' kids with candy on a daily basis...

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I'm not an all-or-nothing person, so I don't do the succeed or fail thing. Some parts come easy - No seconds has become second nature. I'm not tempted, even on weekends. Some come harder - I do love sweets! I'm not perfect yet, but I'm waaaaaaay better than I was a few months ago. Kathy I'm also no...

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A few more favorites...soup, bread and fruit is not only my usual lunch, it's my favorite lunch. Thought they're all in storage right now, I have 10 soup cookbooks. Soup is good food! This one makes a LOT of soup. I usually cut it in half. Don't let the ingredients list scare you, it's mostly herbs ...

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I'm hoping that he expands on these or includes more. Something I've noticed over the last few years is that the best diet/nutrition advice is coming from lay people, not the diet/nutrition professionals. While I've not tried a lot of diets, I've read about more than I care to count. One thing I've ...

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How about you soup chefs starting a SOUP topic and writing out your fav.soups? Winter is coming and who couldn't use a new soup recipe or two??I tend to throw what I have at hand into the soup pot and then make up a name for it and, depending on what spice and herbs I've used, I even make up a coun...

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Did you see this part?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009 ... rules.html

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http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/0 ... ng-habits/

His next book will be about this. It will be released 12/29.

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You think teachers have temptations? Try being a nurse -- in a hospital. The food is equally as bad, and sometimes I think worse.

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I got this from another nurse friend the other day and it's good advice: Vinay Goyal is an MBBS,DRM,DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital , Bombay Hospital , Saifee Hospital , Tata Memorial etc. Prese...

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Are these s-days!? Its not so much the eating as the jog on the beach. I feel lousy, and all I want to do is go back to bed. I have to go to the bank (pay mortgage) but after that all I want to do is go back to bed. I'm just so proud of having no reds on my habit cal. Sore throat, headache, and tha...

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lexicake wrote: if i actually do succeed in having pure 'n' days the rest of the week, should i still make saturday and sunday 's' days?

Even if you don't succeed in having pure 'n' days the rest of the week, Saturday and Sunday should be 's' days. You cannot fail on those days.

wosnes

I think that people who don't/have never dieted (but maintain a "healthy" weight) aren't perfect in how they eat. Their habits have been developed over a lifetime -- or longer. I mean, it's how their parents and grandparents ate and it's what they learned at their knees. It's just what they do and ...

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I'm going to make Chicken Velvet Soup. It's comfort in a bowl.

http://www.momsmenu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3093

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I wonder how much of a role diet food has in obesity. All those chemicals surely must play a role in it. I know they say that artificial sweetener mimics sugar in the blood and the body treats it as such. I wonder what else we will know twenty years from now. Probably quite a bit. Most diet food is...

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When you start on No-S you're doing exactly what you'll do to maintain. Your body will decide your ideal weight -- and it won't be too little (or too much!).

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I have friends who own a cafe and are known for their clam chowder. It's basically clams, butter and cream. I don't have it very often, but it's great. I love soup and always have. There are times I'd be happy eating soup for lunch and dinner. I like all kinds of soup -- thick, thin, creamy, brothy,...

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I can't really answer the question "how many tries" because I screw up all the time. I never tried to get 21 perfect days in a row so I never had the concept of starting over, KWIM? I just decided that this is the way I'm going to eat forever, so if I mess up now and then I just go right back to No...

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This past summer, one of my projects was to go through my bookshelves and rid them of my collection of diet books and diet cookbooks. I took them all to our local thrift store. Mimi :D I did that a couple of years ago. Such a wonderful feeling! I also avoid any cookbooks with nutritional analysis o...

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wosnes, I have wondered what is the defining characteristic of those who stay on this diet. Blueskighs, who was a regular poster last year, told me "Desperation!" You can count on the weight loss not being very fast, and so many diets are promoted for the speed of weight loss. I think it is due to ...

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Noel and Dandelion beat (no pun intended!) me to it.

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This forum has attracted a lot of middle aged women who have been dieting since they were teenagers and messed up their metabolisms. I'm one of them! Kathleen I'm not! I dieted maybe once every decade, but that was about it. The thing that astounds me is that for those who have dieted since they we...

wosnes

Like I said, I didn't realize that rule existed for the first year I did this, then I couldn't see why I should change what I was doing. Also, since "extra" plates always seem to be vegetable-based, they're not something I'm worried about.

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I'm still working on this. I started in July. Like a few other people have mentioned, I just don't think I can do Vanilla No S. What works for me (when I stick with it), is to still eat three meals, but to allow myself a dessert with lunch or dinner -- as long as it fits on my plate. I've been real...

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I'm still working on this. I started in July. Like a few other people have mentioned, I just don't think I can do Vanilla No S. What works for me (when I stick with it), is to still eat three meals, but to allow myself a dessert with lunch or dinner -- as long as it fits on my plate. I've been real...

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I enjoyed this:

http://losingweightafter45isabitch.blog ... -food.html

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Huh, just one try is enough for me ... when you are motivated you know nothing can stop you, no reason to quit ... you just fight through adversity. If it takes more than one time, it means you are not 100% ready to make the changes required to succeed. If it gets tough it means you are doing somet...

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Happy Birthday, Reinhard! Enjoy your day and have a great year.

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NOTHING has made Vanilla No-S stick for me. I'm not at all worried about that. It works for Reinhard and lots of other people, but I'm not Reinhard OR those other people. I'm me -- and I've never done well following rules set by someone else that affect only my life/behavior. It's more important to...

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This has always been one of my favorites:

http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/How_Hot_I ... Story.html

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Good to hear that you're doing okay!

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I agree with Jan.

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There seems to be a tendency around here to prefer weight-loss advice that's over a thousand years old -- Reinhard often refers to the Bible/Torah, and now you're citing Aristotle (a relative newcomer, but still pretty old). :) Of course, you only have to go back half a century to find North Americ...

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Apparently Mark Bittman's had a similar thought: You can also embrace hunger, strange as that may sound, just as you might embrace the delicious anticipation of a nap, or sexual craving. Your hunger will, after all, be satisfied. Why not wait an hour? (You're not dying, after all!) You might also st...

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I totally understand, Deb! I don't post often, yet last week I posted that I had 7 weeks of compliance--then followed it with 3 red days! why, God, Why?!?! oh, well. mark it and move on! good job on your compliance, though. it's that much easier to get back on. you know that! So, 3 red days after 4...

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I'd do whatever worked for me that day. It's a situation with too many possibilities for one answer. Do what works for you and don't worry about it.

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NoelFigart wrote:But... wosnes, the Sooper Sekrit Nowlige will be MISSING if she doesn't buy the BOOK!!!!
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I'm not going to tell you how many times I had to read "Sooper Sekrit Nowlige" before it made sense to me. It's the end of the day...??? (sounds good to me)

wosnes

By the way, in terms of the "rules" -- everything is on the home page. While there's plenty of other content in the book, there's no more "rules" than appear on the home page.

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Your afternoon cuppa has no where near the calories of a glass of milk or juice -- both of which are "legal."

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I can't decide if this is funny or frustrating:

http://www.delish.com/food/recalls-revi ... eat-marcus

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Blithe Morning wrote:Grammy, it took me about three tries to get it right. The first attempts weren't bad but each time it got better. I've come to realize that a learning curve is normal and necessary.

Hmm...practice makes perfect?

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KCCC wrote: As for your boyfriend... I can't tell if he just doesn't "get it" or is deliberately sabatoging you,

I'm thinking the bf might have a more realistic idea of what she looks like. Hard to tell, but...

wosnes

Okay...deep breath...relax. This is not a quick weight loss program. It's going to be slow going, especially when you have so little to lose. Concentrate first on the habits. Don't beat yourself up for slip-ups. The big question isn't why you slip up, but why you expect NOT to slip up. You know that...

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Hi, Someone told me about this No S Diet ("diet") many months ago and I brushed them off, but it stuck with me, back in the recesses of my brain somewhere. A few days ago, I dusted off the cobwebs and decided to check it out. Yesterday, I started the "program" (I use quotations because it's not rea...

wosnes

Um, I don't do anything. No counting calories, no weighing, no anything. And I'm supposed to weigh every day due to my CHF.

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KCCC wrote:Still does - there's a nasty green concoction with nuts in it that must be served every Thanksgiving. My husband actually likes it.

I like it, too, though I've probably not had it for 20-some years. Never made it. I never make Jell-O -- don't even keep it in the house.

wosnes

I think the reasoning might be different for people undergoing chemo -- or who have any condition where the appetite is diminished. Staring at a big plate of food tends to decrease the appetite more; smaller plates of food served more frequently tend not to diminish the appetite.

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My S days vary widely. Some days I'm a glutton, some include a treat here and there and/or some snacking, and some look like N days (that's usually not a plan, just the way it happens). While I do tend to bake something to be enjoyed on the weekends, I don't plan S days and I don't worry about them,...

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Wow, it's just government-funded advertising for heavily processed foods. They're not going to be putting check-mark stickers on apples, but I'm sure they will put them on Fruit by the Foot -- it's just more encouragement to let manufacturers choose what's "healthy" instead of eating actual foods. ...

wosnes

And here's more:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/

Actually, read this and follow the links:

http://bitten.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09 ... rt-choice/

wosnes

You want a bummer? I have a harder time finding clothes that fit well when I'm at my "goal" weight than I do when I'm heavier. Now THAT'S a bummer!

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KCCC wrote:@ Wosnes - I love that you don't get that mindset. Your wonderment at it has frequently been an inspiration to me. That, and your general modeling of sanity.

Thanks! It's one of those things I can't explain about myself; just the way I am.

wosnes

I don't think a lot of people know how to be satisfied with "just enough" or just doing their best. It's as if there's a need to be super-perfect and it's especially apparent in diet/exercise.

It's something I don't understand at all.

wosnes

This has been linked to before, but I always find it interesting. The thing that surprises me is the amount of packaged foods most buy. There are just a few exceptions. What also gets to me is the correlation between amount spent on food and percentage of packaged foods. That's almost across the bo...

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This has been linked to before, but I always find it interesting. The thing that surprises me is the amount of packaged foods most buy. There are just a few exceptions.

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xJocelynx87 wrote:
Yes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Problem is, I still have about 10lbs I'd like to lose.

I can't stress over 10 lbs. Could be you're not supposed to lose those last pounds. I'd see what happens over time -- like a year or so.

wosnes

I've known that for some time. I used to be a 7 1/2 and now I'm stuck at 8. But I'm not 8 1/2 anymore!

wosnes

One of the things that most intrigues me is that folks in other countries who eat their traditional diets (which often are high in carbs -- even the white stuff) do not seem to have these issues. I think part of it is what they eat with it -- more vegetables, fruits, legumes as well as other whole g...

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Wow. Just wow. I use a kitchen scale to weigh ingredients when necessary. I don't count calories -- never have and probably never will (never say "never"). I know which foods are more or less calorie dense and try to eat accordingly. A few years ago I was talking with a friend and she mentioned that...

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What you're eating is as important as how much and how often. I think I've posted this nearly every time someone mentions being hungry, especially hungry to the point of feeling ill, between meals. http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4574 I've found that by eating (mostly) real food, I've ...

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I'm trying to work out how you were driving with an ice cream cone. :shock: Me too! Maybe I'm not very coordinated, lol, but I probably either would have crashed or had ice cream all over my lap. :) I'm not very coordinated, either, but it wasn't all that difficult. The worst was backing out of the...

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http://foodjunta.com/2009/09/15/this-is ... alth-care/

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Noel and sporkfancier -- I agree!

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Welcome!

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If government helped create the problem of obesity in America by subsidizing grain which led to cheap corn and soy-based foods being marked artificially lower than they actually cost, then is it right for it to dis-incentivize overeating by charging for being fat? Well, they subsidize tobacco farme...

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