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Welcome, Maggie! Results with this may be slower than with other programs, but I think they're more long-lasting without much effort because the habits are ingrained by then. This is the way (depending on your age) your parents, grandparents and great-grandparents ate before overweight and obesity w...

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The bloating we experience with PMS is probably greater here (in the Western countries, but especially the U.S) because we eat so many processed foods high in sodium. This is why drinking water helps. It's the principle of osmosis. Once your tissues are holding water, drinking more water moves the s...

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I found this at cheaphealthygood.com http://cheaphealthygood.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-weight-maintenance-is-harder-than.html One of the things I like about No-S is that what you do to lose weight is exactly the same thing you do to maintain the weight loss. I don't agree with the weekly weighing, th...

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I think I've read that cucumbers have a diuretic effect. Avoiding processed foods would be good, too.

wosnes

I do have a No S plate in my office! I mean, it's not a branded special No S plate, but I bought a pretty china-and-platinum dinner plate at a thrift store and that's my special plate to plate my lunch on. Cost to me: $1. Profit to Reinhard: $0. Sorry! I think Reinhard may have shot himself in the ...

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I do use a small dose of diuretics daily for my CHF. When I'm bloated, though, I find one thing that helps: drink more water.

wosnes

How interesting! I read Andrew Weil's Eating Well for Optimum Health when it was published in 2000. Throughout the book there are "healing stories" about people who improved their health and changed their lives by changing their eating habits. This one appealed to me from the minute I read it: "At n...

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I doubt the issue is "carb sensitivity," mainly because that's kind of a made-up diet-book issue. Ask people in a famine stricken region who are existing on rice and grain how "carb sensitive" they are. Magically, that issue doesn't affect them. I agree. Most cultures around the world base their di...

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What's more, prior to doing NoS, in order to keep my weight relatively stable I felt like I had to run obsessively (20+ miles a week!), which I never really enjoyed. But after learning to eat more sensibly, I found running that much simply wasn't necessary. I think it's interesting that you found r...

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I'm curious Marianna -- what's your height and weight?

wosnes

I eat fairly light by choice. Breakfast: Whole grain toast with butter and a bowl of fruit. Sometimes a smoothie (juice, yogurt, berries) instead of the fruit. Occasionally an egg or two cooked in butter. Lunch: Large bowl of soup, bread, and a piece of fruit. A salad may replace the soup in summer....

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I play it by ear, but I don't plan to splurge daily or multiple times per day.

wosnes

Personally, I don't think the chocolate in muffins is problematic. The muffins are the problem (in most cases)! Muffins are cupcakes masquerading as a breakfast food. I save them for S days. Even my favorite granola, which is homemade and has less sugar than most store-bought versions, has more suga...

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Brother John, I'm really curious...what are you eating? Oh, and congratulations on your results!

wosnes

Any diet guru or organization that sells its own branded food-replacement products immediately loses any shred of credibility in my mind -- that knocks out Weight Watchers, Atkins, and the Zone immediately. I think Ornish sells soups or something, too, doesn't he? I'm not sure about that one, thoug...

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So I went to a family reunion for lunch today and found a great aunt had lost quite a bit of weight and looked really good for a lady in her 70s. She told me the secret LOL I nearly fell off the chair in excitement. She said: "Now Tiffi, the secret is I cut out the sweets and snackings and had ONE ...

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oliviamanda wrote: Purple milk sounds weird! I googled it just to get an idea! I don't think purple milk is what you want to be drinking between meals for S's sake.

Why not? According to what Minimizer says, it's a combo of grape juice and milk -- both entirely "legal" for No-S.

wosnes

Sorry to stray too far off topic, but does the "s-event" qualify as straying from the "vanilla no s"? I just had my first "s-event day." I will be noting it as a yellow on Habitcal, but I did follow all the rules of an N day with one exception -- I ate dessert at book club, because it's a once-a-mo...

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Sorry to stray too far off topic, but does the "s-event" qualify as straying from the "vanilla no s"? I just had my first "s-event day." I will be noting it as a yellow on Habitcal, but I did follow all the rules of an N day with one exception -- I ate dessert at book club, because it's a once-a-mo...

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Is it okay to Trade my s days? I don't really want Friday as my permanent S day, because I usually don't go out on Fridays and on Sunday we often make a big home-cooked meal. HOWEVER, on Friday the 24th our good friend will be in town and we're going to go to a really nice restaurant. S day for sur...

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Welcome, rebecca! That sounds like a perfectly reasonable mod, if you think you can manage the tradeoff of perhaps smudged clarity. If it's perfectly clear in your mind that there's a difference between your evening square and sweets in general (or two squares! that's what would get me), then that'...

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Welcome, rebecca! That sounds like a perfectly reasonable mod, if you think you can manage the tradeoff of perhaps smudged clarity. If it's perfectly clear in your mind that there's a difference between your evening square and sweets in general (or two squares! that's what would get me), then that'...

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This came in an email today:

All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.

wosnes

2) Most human populations ate very high carb diets until recently -- and were thin. We're already eating low carb by historical standards. And I don't want to get into an argument about paleolithic cavemen. There's no reason to look into the remote past when facts about diet and digestive tracts ar...

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Well that was an interesting post. I do know once you have adopted a Gary Pollan mindset you want to scream at any nutritionist or diet expert that advises eating a balance of carbohydrates and protein and fat and limiting intake. Do you mean Gary Taubes or Michael Pollan? I think the problem is th...

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I don't virtual plate green salads or broth-based soups -- but I think I'm the only one that doesn't do that.

wosnes

I mix them. Whole-grain breads most of the time (and I like making my own) - but I won't turn down a good baguette. Brown rice. Barley (LOVE barley). White pasta (oh well). I figure they fall into the "20" group of the 80-20 rule as applied to eating. (As in, eat decent food at least 80% of the tim...

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A good place to promote No-S:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/0 ... /#comments

Read the article linked to, as well.

wosnes

I think the current advice is to go for a balance of whole grains and enriched white flour products. I eat whole grain bread at breakfast and white with lunch. Dinner often doesn't include bread/pasta/rice, but if it does, it's the white stuff. Not only do I not like the taste of whole grains, they ...

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The whole diet thing (as in what you actually should eat) is a total mess at the moment. There are seemingly solid arguments for every combination/side you can think of. I've been researching it myself for some time now and I'm getting fairly close to a fact based conclusion. I'm even tempted to wr...

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Here I am talking about eating "real food" and at least half of the flour products I eat are from enriched flour -- and I don't worry about it at all. Truly, I think it's really only an issue if most of the food you eat is overly refined and processed and there's little in the way of nutrients and f...

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I'd been doing this for about a year before I realized there was such a thing as the virtual plate. Don't know how I missed it, but I did. What I did -- and still do -- is have one serving of anything being served. I almost never put all of it on one plate or imagine it that way. It works for me.

wosnes

I went off the plan, after reaching my goal, because I just didn't feel that my brain or body were functioning well without carbs. Possibly because your brain (and a couple of other organs) require carbs to function well. Truth is, over the course of history populations have based their diets on wh...

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Something I've noticed as I've read about various cultures and eating -- almost no one eats three (or fewer) meals daily. If they do, it's either because food isn't available for some reason or they can't afford it. But, they don't eat junk, either.

wosnes

I think it overcomplicates things -- even though I like the idea.

wosnes

I've always thought it sounded gross. And just why would I want to replace butter and salt?

wosnes

Woman who live in sunny climates also experience less breast cancer. I find it interesting that nearly all those long-lived and healthy people (Cretans, Ikarians, southern Italians, Okinawans, Tarahumara Indians of Mexico, Nicoyans of Costa Rica, and more that I can't remember right now) live in sun...

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bonnieUK wrote:My sister is a midwife in a busy hospital, she sometimes wears a pedometer, one time she told me she did 8 miles in one long night shift (it's a big hospital) I don't know how many steps that is though.

Depending on the length of your step, between 16,000 and 20,000 steps.

wosnes

Agreed- BLT's are the best and how nice it is to really ENJOY them. Our version lately has become what my husband calls a BALT. . . bacon, avocado, lettuce and tomato. . . a really nice twist on the classic! I call it the BLAT. Bittman offered up another version last week: the BST. Bacon, spinach a...

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Over43 wrote:Wouldn't a flexitarian be an omnivore? On the otherhand I noctice my wife and I eat less meat during the summer. Just seems to be a natural shift.

J.

Technically, yes. But I think "flexitarian" implies that one is eating more plant foods and fewer animal foods.

wosnes

I read about it on another discussion forum.

wosnes

The reviews of the book at Amazon are interesting. I look at the negative ones as much as the positive, and this certainly has negative ones -- partly for language and partly for very inaccurate content. Unfortunately, I've found that to be true of many books that promote a vegan diet -- the truth i...

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I really wanted to write how this inspires me to go work on my garden after work instead of going to the gym. But it is almost 100 degrees outside. I feel like a pansy. :? There's no way I'm spending much time outdoors when it gets that warm -- especially if it's humid, too (and I'm sure it is in H...

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A vegan diet works well for some people and not so well with others. I followed a vegan diet for a while (maybe 5 years?) and never really felt good. I started feeling better and had much more improvement with labs, etc. when I resumed eating meat, dairy and more fats and gave up overly refined and ...

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I can vouch for how many steps a nurse takes. The number they give was on the low side for me at my last job, and I estimate that the number of steps I took there was lower than at some previous jobs. In addition, I walked for exercise daily. Simple things like that make a HUGE difference. Or, you c...

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I'm one of those folks who can't walk and chew gum, so I don't think it would work well for me!

wosnes

I had listened to some of Michael Pollan's stuff and few ideas resonated with me. The "experts and diet gurus" don't always have the answer and Americans are obessed with food and dieting but struggle with weight more than any other culture. Why is that? Well, I think it's because little by little ...

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For me, it's my hips that hurt.

wosnes

Eleanor Roosevelt said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Truth is, no one can make us feel anything without our consent. When we get upset or angry over the unkind or thoughtless remarks people make, we're giving them power over how we feel. It's not hurting them; it's only ...

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I really like this. It makes so much sense! I look at labels all the time! Firstly I look at how much sugar, carb and salt. Then the ingredients to make sure there is no high fructose corn syrup and a long list of crazy sounding stuff. It is so difficult though. Twice yesterday I had ketchup know i...

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Pollan didn't say this, but it's good advice:

http://www.blogher.com/how-save-money-g ... s#comments

wosnes

Big Food uses all the marketing psychological tricks to sell more of their 'food'. Child or Adult, we are all susceptible to their siren songs. Even the strongest will can be weakened or broken. So I DO blame Big Food Corporations and modern capitalism's never ending quest for larger profits and ne...

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Health Food vs Healthy Food:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd9XnyNGXGs

That's not the complete video, the beginning is omitted and I can't find it online, but very interesting.

wosnes

KCCC, what kind of protein-other stuff balance do you tend to eat? Back when I did WW, I tended to "short" myself on protein because it took a lot of points that I preferred to "spend" on snacks. Took me a while to realize that. I usually follow a rough "plate division" of 1/4 protein, 1/4 carbs, p...

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I like Mark Bittman, too.

wosnes

That's great! I've only been doing this a few days, and my experience with breakfast was similar today. I went to McDonald's after I'd been at work for a few hours, and instead of taking it back to the office, I ate it there. I read "In Defense of Food" after reading Reinhard's book, and one of Mic...

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I was born in 1949 so was in grade school during the fifties. I honestly don't remember any snack breaks other than milk and graham crackers in kindergarten. We ate breakfast at home, got to get a drink of water at the fountain at recess and then ate lunch, repeat recess in the afternoon and then w...

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This is interesting and kind of goes along with what Thalia wrote in the snacking post:

http://food.change.org/blog/view/michae ... s_big_food

So, Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants. AND

1. Don't eat anything that's advertised.
2. Don't eat anything that claims to be healthy.

wosnes

Also: I'd really like to see the statistics on how kids perform better academically when they are allowed to snack. I suspect that this is because the children are not getting a good breakfast in the morning, which is why they need to supplement mid-morning. I'd like to see them, too. I'd also like...

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Thalia wrote:I think granola bars are basically glorified cookies, so for me they are an S.

I was thinking candy bars.

wosnes

I guess everyone has their limitations and it's good to know what they are. I don't think I would eat more than one packet. But get me around a pizza, and that's another story... Today's my daughter's 12th birthday and she wants her favorite--Papa John's. I had a RED day a couple of weeks ago aroun...

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For years I ate cereal but then switched to whole grain toast for better portion control (I can fit a LOT of cereal in one bowl). Portion control is important! I used to have a very obese patient who said she only had a bowl of cereal for breakfast. Finally someone asked her how big the bowl was. S...

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Can you give us an example of what you're eating?

wosnes

3-2-1 Salad Dressing 3 parts oil 2 parts vinegar (Or lemon juice. Sometimes I use 1 part red wine vinegar and 1 part lemon juice) 1 part honey Salt and pepper to taste. Sometimes I use a dab of dijon mustard, or add a little garlic or ginger or both. I actually have a few variations -- depends on w...

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From today's Well blog:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/2 ... /#comments

wosnes

Cookies in general are my biggest weakness, too. Sugar cookies in particular. I can pass by just about anything else, but not cookies. One of my mods is that I allow myself 2 standard-sized homebaked cookies daily. If they're not homebaked, I can't have them. Just recently I haven't been baking much...

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That sounds a little oily for my tastes -- I prefer vinaigrettes to be more acidic. I've been using this formula: 3 parts oil 2 parts vinegar (Or lemon juice. Sometimes I use 1 part red wine vinegar and 1 part lemon juice) 1 part honey Salt and pepper to taste. Sometimes I use a dab of dijon mustard...

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Cassie, I don't think the importance of exercise can be underestimated. It doesn't need to be a formal, go to the gym exercise program -- just MOVE more. Take your baby for a walk, take the dog for a walk (no dog? Pretend there is and it needs to be walked daily. Even 2-3 times daily). Make life a l...

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Hello Im kind of new here, but I've been doing the diet for about 2 weeks and it's been going great. The thing is that my husband and I are trying to have a baby!!! God willing this happens soon, then what? How am I suppossed to do this if you have all this cravings, hunger and stuff. Im scared!!! ...

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Marleah wrote: The only downside is that I can really see people reading it and saying yeah that it makes sense, but it's kind of vague and doesn't give people a real standard to live by. Which is where no-s comes in! Reinhard In the trailers for the movie Food, Inc., Michael Pollan says that our r...

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This is a good idea. I've come up with more ideas using the same 10 ingredients:

http://bitten.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06 ... gredients/

wosnes

Great review!

wosnes

Most days, I have a sandwich and a cup of the soup for lunch. (I make a big batch of vegetable soup every two weeks and freeze it in single-serving containers -- lots of veggies, lots of peeling and chopping). I've become so used to homemade soup, that canned has started tasting artificial. If I've...

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Wosnes, I also own a copy of Laurel's Kitchen, and still use it on occasion. I have all of the "Laurel's Kitchen" cookbooks. Not so much for the recipes (they're about the same in all except the bread book and Laurel's Kitchen Caring ), but for Carol Flinders introductions. There's a recipe for a T...

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It's Time for a New Relationship with Food [/b] â€œHave you ever stopped to consider what relationship you have with food? We donâ€™t often think we even have a relationship with food, and yet we do â€” and itâ€™s pretty intimate. Think about this: if youâ€™re like me, you spend as much or more tim...

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shamrockmommy wrote:Yesterday I just was in such a funk and feeling like this will never end.

It DOES end. Or, at least it gets different.

wosnes

I think it would be a lot more manageable if we were all in the same general area -- not all over the world!

wosnes

You have my total sympathy! My full time working days were a breeze compared to staying home with your own kids! I totally agree. In fact, I think it's easier to work with kids at home than it is to stay home with the kids 24/7. Unfortunately, I don't think it matters much whether there's a husband...

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We don't eat much junk in our house, at least not of the processed kind :roll: But because we don't eat processed foods like chips very often, I can really see what they do to my kids. My oldest son is very thin. He just doesn't like to eat very much and will not eat a mouthful after he's full. BUT...

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StrawberryRoan wrote:I also agree that No S is most valuable when everything else is out of kilter.

It is good to have control over SOMETHING.

Sorry for all you have been through lately, welcome to the boards and Good Luck....

SR

And I agree. Welcome!

wosnes

StrawberryRoan wrote:
Now, I have to figure out my maintenance plan....

Hmmm..

I read this once: Start as you mean to continue.

One of the things I like about No-S is that there are no phases or waves or steps. No maintenance. You start -- and that's exactly what you do to maintain.

Congratulations!

wosnes

I agree with Marc and Deb.

wosnes

Chips aren't really "Food" anyway, hardly any nutrients, nothing that is good for you in there. If we're just talking potato chips, they're really not too bad, at least as compared to other chips and junk food. Potatoes, fat and salt. I have noticed that the longer I'm doing no S, the less junk I'm...

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My husband's naturally skinny -- if anything he has to be concerned about not dropping in weight. I think it's part heredity/metabolism, and part that he is, as someone said upthread, naturally moderate. He doesn't generally overeat, and he rarely snacks. It hasn't been a problem -- we all eat the ...

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Anyway, it's all good if people want to have potato chips on their plate and still use the word 'Diet' to describe what they are doing ... whatever floats people's boats is fine with me. The first two definitions of "diet": 1 a: food and drink regularly provided or consumed b: habitual nourishment....

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Okay, since No-S is more about habits than about the food you eat, you can incorporate chips into your meals. Have them at lunch. Have them at dinner if you must. But none between meals. Is that the healthiest choice? No, but if it enables you to stick to the plan, so be it. There are those who clai...

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One way I greatly respect is their school lunch program which limits the kids access to junk food, and doesn't aim to feed the kids a limited menu of 'kid-friendly' foods. When I was reading about the French and Italian school lunches, I realized how much we've "dumbed down" food for kids in school...

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People up until 2 or 3 decades ago always ate real food and were thinner and less obsessed than we are! Everything tastes better with "real" food - real butter, real whole milk, whole cheese, and recipes which include these ingredients. And the book also emphasizes walking, ALOT of it. That's my fa...

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Thanks for the long response! I just got married, so we think about having kids.. I might get pregnant in a little over a year ..!!! This is the kind of stuff I often think about. You don't want to be too controlling b/c of the adverse affects but you don't want kids to eat whatever they want b/c o...

wosnes

You can also try the 50% solution:

http://frenchwomendontgetfat.com/node/564

wosnes

I'm excited (sorta!). I got a pork roast and a turkey breast to roast tomorrow and slice thin. I'll freeze portions and use as needed for sandwiches. I like doing things in bulk like this. Maybe I'll keep it up, maybe I won't ;) That's how I am, but the idea is sure appealing! There is a small chai...

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I don't have any favorite recipes either, really. What I do is e-mealz.com and get 7 dinner meals per week. I'm on my own for lunch and b'fast, but those are pretty well default anyway. Tonight's dinner was chicken florentine, very good! 2 chicken breasts, skinless/bonless, pounded flat 6 oz bag of...

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Welcome!

wosnes

I think limited processed food is great, but if I had to strive to make ALL my foods non-processed, I think I'd give up on trying to be thin(er). You have to determine what your limits are. I do use pasta, white flour, rice, sugar and some condiments, but I make all salad dressings (or buy some fro...

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Okay ladies and gentlemen -- time for someone besides me to post recipes!!

I made this for dinner tonight. Good thing I took a big helping -- so I wasn't tempted to take seconds. It's very good.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina- ... index.html

wosnes

You have it right. You can't fail on S-days(Sa,Su). (Thank goodness!) And a failure is breaking the rules on an N-day (M,Tu,W,Th,F). By the rules I mean eating something not on one of your 3 plates (snacks, seconds), or eating something that is classified as a sweet. I'd been doing this for well ov...

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I like tasty food, too. With the exception of the new flavors, the Haagen Dazs Five has exactly the same ingredients as regular Haagen Dazs. They are good -- and I'm NOT a big ice cream fan. There's an article in the current (June/July) issue of Fine Cooking about making your own ice cream with nume...

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Did anyone catch this on CNBC last night?

There's even a book telling one how to get on Oprah.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/29961298?__sourc ... t|&par=vty

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Cornfed wrote: (I hear that's the best time to eat, from a metabolic perspective. Ha ha.).

That's a myth.

wosnes

I won't say that I can eat ANYTHING on No-S - I'm over 50, and the metabolism has slowed, alas. If I ate fast food all week, I'd gain. However, I can eat what is "normal" for me, and do just fine, and I am fine with that. I'm over 50 (actually, over 60) and there's NOTHING I can't eat. However, the...

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