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I'm also rarely hungry first thing in the morning and am not hungry until closer to lunch time. I usually eat only lunch and dinner. If I get hungry prior to 10 AM, I'll have toast and fruit. If I don't get hungry until after 10 AM, then I wait until lunch. I may have lunch a little earlier than usu...

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I think it depends on what your goal is. If the goal is healthy habits, then either could be started first. If the goal is weight loss, then diet is the place to start. There's no doubt that exercise is important for many reasons, but for weight loss, cutting calories is what gets the job done -- ev...

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The belief is when our eating is consistently moderate, we will get results. It seems to me if people fail here , it is because they didn't let the rule of moderation rule, whether they recognize it or not. I DISAGREE. We are not ALL THE SAME, and MANY people share my own personal difficulties. "Mo...

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Welcome back and good luck!

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My biggest problem with Christmas Day was that my younger daughter and I were invited to the home of a friend of hers and then we were expected at my oldest daughter's home. Unfortunately the two meals ended up being within two hours of each other. The only thing that stretched it out that long was ...

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I made tomato soup a few days ago and we're having that with grilled cheese for lunch today. Not sure what we're having for dinner. I don't have a lot of leftovers from the holiday and we're in the middle of a blizzard right now.

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There are just three rules and one exception: No Snacks No Sweets No Seconds Except (sometimes) on days that start with "S" There's nothing about vanilla No-S that says bingeing is allowed on the weekends -- or any other S day, for that matter. The S days are a time to relax and enjoy yourself a li...

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Yesterday I heard a politician, I think it was U.S Senator, from Texas say that we needed them to "protect us from the tyranny of government." I don't agree.

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I haven't thought about that for years because it doesn't apply, but I used to look forward to snow days. Whether I was a student or a parent, I always saw them as bonus free days. They were the days I got to do what I wanted to do -- no "must dos" on the list. I would bake cookies on snow days. The...

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That's insane. Is that a private school menu?? I don't know what the French pay in taxes, but it looks like they're channeling it right into the school cafeterias! Le Billon routinely features menus from public schools. While the French Ministry of Education sets the guidelines, each municipality f...

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I have a comment and a question: 1. I was watching the news coverage of this last night and realized that at this one school, there will be less than 10 kids in second grade next year. Until these children go into middle school and merge with students from other schools, there will always be an obvi...

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Over43 wrote:The house is empty. A protein shake. A steak and salad sound much better though.

I would have made the steak and salad.

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I hadn't heard about this, but it sounds interesting.

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Sorry to hear that you're having a rough time.

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eschano wrote: So maybe your article is mainly about people who have lost weight on a crash diet? Am I missing the point?

I read the article yesterday and don't remember a lot of it now, but I thought there was a lot of info missing. Interesting, but discouraging.

wosnes

I'm also a cook and while I do taste, I find I really don't need to taste that much -- in terms of amount or frequency. I taste near the end of cooking to adjust seasoning and just a small spoonful. If I need to adjust the seasoning, I'll take a small spoonful afterwards to make sure I got it right.

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PS Wosnes - I am 5â€™6â€, currently at my highest weight. Throughout time and history, the "average" woman (5'4") has weighed about 120 pounds, plus or minus a few pounds due to bone structure, etc. Taller or shorter women have weighed about 5 pounds more or less per inch of height -- again plus or...

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Blithe Morning wrote:I think you may need more help than what can be found on a message board. This sounds more serious than what No S can address.

I agree. I am curious, though, how tall are you?

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I'm not sure about this, but I think most of the people who have lost and then regained what they lost just give up and move on -- and chalk it up as yet another diet that doesn't work. It seems that at least some eventually come back because they realize that this is based on common sense and is sa...

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I have a lifetime of dieting and this is the first time I have ever felt in control of my eating. My aim is below 196lb for Xmas. But I am anxious that I will fail badly over Xmas and not sure how to manage my days? Tessytwinkle Welcome, Tessytwinkle! The reason you feel in control is because on No...

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Or, you could just try some milk or juice.

I can't explain why (because I don't know why), but I'm against protein drinks.

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Tonight I'm going to make a version of Jerusalem Mixed Grill and have more of the carrot-beet salad. I say a version of the mixed grill because I'm only using chicken breasts and not putting the mixture in a pita (don't have any).

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This isn't an answer to your question, but more questions: What do you eat for breakfast and lunch on those long days? What are your actual work hours? What kind of work do you do?

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My lunch today was pretty hearty, so I want something lighter for dinner. I'm thinking avgolemono and this carrot and beet salad. I'm not sure how they'll go together, but they're both from the Mediterranean!

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I made a brisket yesterday, so I think I'll have a brisket sandwich tonight. Or maybe I'll bake a potato and put some of the meat and carrots on top.

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All nifty wordplay aside, I must say that I went off track. WAAAAYYYY off track. A one weekend (S day) splurge spiraled out of control and so did I. So I'm back. But here's the thing... This is my first day back and I am HUNGRY!! But, that's what I get. I think I am going to limit my "S" days in so...

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Wow jellybeans, that is inspirational. I'm finding it hard enough wrangling one baby! You know the old saying "work expands to fill the time available to it?" It's much the same with babies. No matter if you work outside the home or not, the first baby takes a LOT of time. Unless there are special ...

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Congratulations to you!

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This also uses dates. Date Nut Pop-Ems (because you pop 'em into your mouth) 3/4 cup nuts (almonds or walnuts or a combination) 1/2 cup soft, pitted dates Put nuts in food processor and process until they're medium-finely ground. Then add dates and process until they're chopped and the mixture will ...

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Dinner last night was fried potatoes (made with onions, garlic and some bacon) with a fried egg on top and applesauce. Lunch was avgolemono with homemade bread, green beans, leftover cranberry sauce and applesauce.

We didn't have our Thanksgiving feast until Monday and I'm working on leftovers.

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Actually I'd say neither of you are correct. I eat very healthy at all of my meals and always have because, quite frankly, I just don't like "junk food" (except sweets)... It's just what happens when I eat and it's not mealtime--I hae no boundaries. My doctor also says that 117 was a good weight fo...

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I think I know why you are bingeing. 117 lbs is way down on the BMI. This may have been too low for you to maintain without a lot of calorie restriction. The body does not forgive this easily. I'm not sure about that. Admittedly, I pay absolutely no attention to BMI. But at 5'5", "ideal" weight is ...

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This article appeared in Time magazine earlier this year What's currently happening in Italy is what's happened in the US in the past 40 years.

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I'd tell the doctor about No-S, but I have a feeling the (s)he'll object for two reasons: 1. No Snacking 2. No defined eating plan (as in eat this, not that) Having said that, most physicians have no training in diet and nutrition. Their knowledge is as informed by popular media as is that of most f...

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First, tell you doctor that you've called and left messages with the therapist, but had no response. You might also ask if his office could make an initial appointment for you (sometimes doctors get a better response). Second, the worst thing your doctor is going to do is lecture you. He might sugge...

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I also think my parents are bad influences on the way I eat... My mom always nibbles, and nearly every every day she brings home chocolate of some kind. And my father literally has cookies or muffins for breakfast every day, then doesn't eat until he gets home from work... And when he does get home...

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My daughter got married in September. She doesn't do No-S, but started watching what she ate in the year previous to the wedding. As the date got closer, and the stress got higher, she lost even more weight than she wanted. In fact, she had to have her dress altered after the final fitting. I wouldn...

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. As I sit here and think about it Thanksgiving might be the "biggest" S Day of the year. Oh, I agree and I'm so looking forward to it. The eating at least, not the cooking of it so much. The funny thing for me is, Thanksgiving is the one day that I probably won't eat a sweet! I just don't care for...

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I agree that you're not eating enough at your meals. I also agree that fat in your diet is not the enemy.

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Congratulations. I think it shows that you don't have to have strings of green days in order to see results -- even if they are very gradual.

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I also think it's unrelated to No-S. A coincidence.

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I don't remember how I found this cookbook , but there are lots of relatively quick recipes for weeknight cooking and lots of interesting information about eating in France (and the US). You might also enjoy her blog Chez Bonne Femme . In the beginning she talks about having been an exchange student...

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I am thinking of applying something similar for an upcoming vacation where I will be staying with family. For N days, I will stick to three meals, no seconds or snacks but I will accept sweets if they are offered with a meal, e.g. pancakes for breakfast or desert after dinner. That sounds great. Si...

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Congratulations! That was a clever way to propose.

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With the exception of smoothies, none of the drinks you mention are considered meals. Soft drinks and milk shakes would be considered sweets and therefor appropriate for S days only. Water, unsweetened juices, milk, coffee, and tea can be consumed at any time, including between meals and are not con...

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Pay attention to how much the locals eat -- especially if they're of normal weight. Virtual plating may be your best option

The one plate rule doesn't work everywhere!

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I've found that keeping myself busy with anything (has to engage my mind to some extent) is the best way not to eat mindlessly.

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Thanks -- that was very interesting. I'm not much of a breakfast eater and prefer to eat my larger meal at midday, if possible, then a light dinner. It doesn't always work that way, but it's my preference.

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wosnes, how strict are you about the "one S" rule? My S's are usually sweets that I'll have at the end of a meal. If I have cookies in the house, I'll have a serving daily until they're gone. I don't necessarily make or buy more immediately when they're gone. Occasionally I'll make another dessert ...

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Vanilla No-S means No-S without any modifications. You need to do this for several months (or longer) before considering any modifications. Pitfalls? Possibly overeating/overfilling your plate in an attempt not to be hungry between meals or overeating on S days. Don't worry though. I think everyone ...

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You know how Reinhard wrote "sometimes" for S days. Well, it's the same when you allow an S daily -- sometimes. It doesn't have to be everyday.

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This is kind of cute -- and I agree with a lot of it: 10 Laws of Thanksgiving Dinner.

I'm thinking about this for the drink of the day.

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. Interesting stuff, although I'm not sure that saying don't do exercise is particularly helpful! Well, I think if the choices are being a couch potato and doing some kind of exercise program, the exercise program should win. However, if one can be fairly active -- and it's not that difficult -- I ...

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wosnes, as always, I very much appreciate your thoughts. Progress, yes, that's what we're all expecting from this mod. Maybe we should just be more patient... I know that November and December are always punctuated with birthdays, namedays, and various other celebrations, and I know I will take adv...

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So, Sinnie, Imogene, and others....what would you tell anyone else who slipped?

Don't be so hard on yourselves. You're human. You make mistakes and, while hopefully you learn from them -- at some point you're probably going to repeat them.

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I thought of a catch phrase or mantra. You will be familiar with it.

Progress, not perfection.

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Not so happy update: I've overdone sweets today - three slices of birthday cake, countless (and mindlessly eaten!) cookies, several caramels... After re-reading "The Willpower Instinct", I might actually use the mandatory 10-minute waiting period before I give in to temptation next time. Much of wh...

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Can you describe your bingeing? The reason I ask is that I tend to think of it as being worse than many people who say they are bingeing describe it.

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The one and only "diet" book besides NoS that I have in the house is the New Sonoma Diet. If one skips the 10-day first phase, the rest of the book is remarkably NoS friendly: 3 good meals a day, no category of food is off limits, portions are determined by plate size, encouraged to sit and enjoy a...

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I'm familiar with the "glass ceiling" concept from reading most of Everyday Systems content, and it's very practical in terms of addressing an over drinking habit. But I think if I let myself have two drinks a day I'd never be able to do NoS. Drinking (even just a little) is a big eating trigger fo...

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I've read in couple of places that when we eat sweets at the end of a meal instead of between meals, it doesn't cause the same blood sugar spike. In addition, women who eat their sweets (including soft drinks, juices, pancakes with syrup and so on) with meals are lighter than women who consume them ...

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Two cookies from yesterday's batch and two squares of dark chocolate after dinner. But then, I eat dark chocolate purely for health resons. In reading about the French I've noticed that they often have chocolate daily -- there's even a chocolate "sandwich" that children may have at their daily snac...

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For those of us who drink, most follow Reinhard's suggestion of no more than 2 drinks daily. That would be wine, beer and most mixed drinks. Technically, this is another system designed to keep drinking from getting out of hand, but it works with No-S and is mentioned on the home page.

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When a post you made is posted, up on the right hand side next to the "quote" button is an "edit" button. Click on edit and you can edit your post.

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milliem wrote:(I think a normal sized dinner plate is about 9-10 inches across before the rim?)

I think they're about 10-10 1/2" inches including the rim.

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The bottom line is that if you want to lose weight, you need to eat less. You can do it eating what you eat now. Thanks for your comment. How can I do it eating what I eat know? Or do you mean by reducing quantity but eating the same food? That's the conundrum. [/quote] I thought I was pretty clear...

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The bottom line is that if you want to lose weight, you need to eat less. You can do it eating what you eat now.

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"Remember that eating two pieces of cake in one sitting isn't twice as good as eating one. Space out and/or postpone your consumption to get maximum enjoyment. The pleasure derived from eating cake won't continue indefinitely. So, eating one piece of cake feels good, eating twenty pieces of cake wo...

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I won't give up on this mod yet, but I will definitely need some strict limits for myself. Some food for thought - what my (slim) colleague said today: "I eat whatever I want, whenever I want, just not as much of it as I'd like". More elegant paraphrase of "don't be an idiot" rule, which I'm consta...

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I'm going to join on this little No S mod venture (.....) I start to feel guilty for eating too much processed foods, or not enough fiber, or....etc...you get the idea. Then I binge out of frustration and need to find a new mod, or do vanilla, or.... Welcome aboard! I can totally relate to your pos...

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I also think 10 a day is a lot of writing -- and I think some days it could be difficult to come up with 10. I'd maybe pick one or two thing and expand on them.

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I'm a member of the "no weigh" camp.

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I'd be very wary of having sweets more often for myself. They take my appetite away too much! When you're having the sweets after a meal and it's hours or overnight before the next meal, they don't act as much of an appetite suppressant. And remember, it's not everyday. As I've said, I can [/b] hav...

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Welcome! I think the trick with S days is not to look at them as a time when you can eat without restriction. They should be a time when you can relax a little, but not go crazy. Reinhard wrote, "Saturday, Sunday and "Special" days. Special days include (your) national and (your) religious and (your...

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Clarinetgal, that's not exactly the answer to your question, but I'd definitely have my treat after dinner, so I could look forward to it all day. Besides, starting my morning with sugar leads to terrible cravings later. wosnes, your idea of spreading your sweets intake over the course of the week ...

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Welcome!

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Wosnes, So do you eat your S with one of your meals, since you don't snack? I know when I've tried Vanilla No S in the past, I always WAY overindulged on the weekends, and I'm thinking a daily S plus only a few unrestricted eating days (Thanksgiving, Christmas, my birthday, big family events) might...

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Besides, I'm wondering about caloric impact of a daily treat. Do you stick to any limits? Before I started doing this, I looked at how much I was indulging on the weekends. I was easily having a couple of sweets each day, plus possibly some other kind of snack. So allowing one S daily spread out wh...

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I'm not sure this will be helpful to you, but here goes: After having read a lot about how the French and Italians eat, I've modified my way of eating to be more like their ways of eating. While they do tend to eat sweets more on weekends (when they may bake at home), they're not forbidden during th...

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I agree that losing weight involves being hungry. Then again, I don't think that's a bad thing! Being hungry for your next meal is how it's meant to be, rather than eating every time our stomach's grumble a little or we feel a little hunger pang. I've definitely learned to live with feeling hungry ...

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It seems to me that the problem with intuitive eating may be differentiating between hunger and simply wanting to eat.

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Also, I think we are fooling ourselves if we think we can fall back to relying exclusively on feeling "what do I want right now." I can think of no healthy food culture where that prevails....but set meals? Few sweets? Moderate portions? Treats on occasion? Those food cultures exist all over the wo...

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I've been thinking about this all day. This is going to be pretty "in your face."

When you care enough to stop these behaviors, you'll care enough to actually follow No-S. You don't need help from any of us, you need some self-control.

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I've never understood the all-or-nothing way of thinking in terms of dieting. To me it's like saying I wasn't a good wife/mother/employee today so I may as well just be really rotten. Generally if we find we've behaved badly, we go the other direction and maybe even go overboard in our attempts to b...

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Just curious. I also would be interested in No S vs. Intuitive Eating, particularly in terms of sustainability. I know nothing about Intuitive Eating, but No-S (or some variation of it) was the standard for decades, maybe centuries. It wasn't until we started wandering away from those habits that w...

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eschano wrote:I believe this is SPAM and shouldn't be here. How do I flag this?

Email Reinhard.

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I was thinking of it in terms of giving up the random things that keep us from being successful on N days.

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In your quest to be successful with No-S (or anything else):

â€œYou donâ€™t GET success. You GIVE UP the things that are keeping you from being successful.â€ Larry Winget

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ZippaDee wrote: Let's see? I wonder how much better I would feel if I could stop my children from bickering?!

Unfortunately, I don't think that ever completely stops, though (in my limited experience) it does get better.

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I think you may be on to something brightangel. What I found with LC is that I was eating quite a few cals and the volume of food was high. I need to get use to smaller portions. And to be completely honest I haven't really been paying too much attention to portion size. I figured I wasn't snacking...

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I'd give No-S a longer shot before going back to low carb.

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Nevermind. ): I was in bed tossing and turning for an hour and a half and I decided to come downstairs for some water and ended up eating a whole bunch... Sigh... You have a choice. Every time you're about to eat something that you "shouldn't" ask yourself if you really want to eat it. If the answe...

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While I certainly understand that the weight gain is discouraging, I don't think it's that unusual, especially for someone who (if I remember correctly) has followed a low carb diet.

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I guess I could describe my totally irrational rationalization for it... I made about three dozen cookies last night and they've been sitting untouched in my kitchen all day. I came home from school today after only about half an hour because I am unbelievably sick (my dad thinks I have mono). I wa...

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BritishFool wrote:Well, I just had eight or nine cookies, and now I feel like a total failure. ):

Mark it and move on.

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It's just enough structure for someone as rigid and black-and-white as I, and I think it will work out splendidly! You just made me realize something: No-S is too structured or rigid for me. I followed it (as I thought it was written) for about a year, but then had to make modifications so it bette...

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It's just enough structure for someone as rigid and black-and-white as I, and I think it will work out splendidly! You just made me realize something: No-S is too structured or rigid for me. I followed it (as I thought it was written) for about a year, but then had to make modifications so it bette...

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I did learn some very good things about persistence and thwarting the WTH effect from the NWLR, but I like the numbers of the research group in those two big "moderate living labs" in Europe called France and Italy. Savored meals, no snacking, a LOT less refined sugar consumption, joyful contemplat...

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So, to paraphrase Dr. Phil, how's the all or nothing thinking working for you?

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Generally speaking the definition of "sweets" here is anything you would consider to be a dessert or that should be a treat -- candy, for instance. Sweetened beverages are something most of us consider to be S's: regular sodas, sweet tea (more than a teaspoon or two of sugar in your tea), many coffe...

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