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eschano

Hi Linda, I think Zoe will learn by herself if she misses any fun stuff. It's harder to learn to stop procrastinating with things like homework but missing out on fun things will make it stick. I'm just like you: I love hosting people and full messy houses but then I really enjoy a (or a few) night ...

eschano

This may just shock you right out of your chair, but we are on track to have saved $6000 since the end of December (by the end of June, when my paychecks end for the summer). And it all started by ending my mindless snacking! $6000??? I am amazed auto!!! Doing my StrategicSpending inspired mini-ver...

eschano

That sounds delicious! Are you using a bread maker or doing it yourself? I failed ridiculously with some baguettes I tried to make the other day as they just didn't rise enough. But it was my first try so hopefully eventually I'll get it.

eschano

Yay Imogen!

eschano

If you do find a procrastination system please do let us know oolala! I'm certainly guilty of it

eschano

Welcome to the sanity of NoS! Looking forward to reading your thread.

eschano

Hope you're already feeling better! I like your plates - god I eat waaay more than you haha! Your plates look so nice with the fruit.

eschano

if I go ahead and bake a cake this weekend, I may end up a widow as the shock could kill my husband. Lol Ursula! I just thought with your German roots it might be a great treat for you. Buy a German cake? I like to bake but to be fair, I only get around to it every few months but I like the feeling...

eschano

Hi Kathleen,

Delighted you're healthy! That's what it's all about in the end, isn't it?

I make myself a cup of hot tea to celebrate finishing something. Mostly herbal and delicious.

eschano

Hi Ursula, Dandelion, and clarinetgal: thank you for your great posts. Ursula: It was tough at first with my boyfriend but the best thing we could do was talk about it. He got that being judged for my eating is the worst thing for me but it also made me realise that when he judges my eating he doesn...

eschano

Welcome!

eschano

Apparently for me, food has to be consciously chosen and eaten. Which is almost counter to No S, with the idea of building unconscious habit. Hi Finallyfull :) I actually disagree, for me NoS is all about consciously enjoying the plate you have. The unconscious part for me is that I'm hungry at mea...

eschano

I'm glad you're not going anywhere auto! I'd miss you too much

As for your new NoS struggles: so the honeymoon phase might be over but I promise it comes back again if you make it through this anxious patch.

eschano

Linda, if you ever come to London you are certainly invited! NoS Green - another nice dinner. After dinner I didn't need anything. Often I'd have some fruit but I was so happy with the meal, there was not reason. Now, this is a good development after the very heavy meals in the last two weeks. I'm a...

eschano

Ok, so here's some sort of explanation for a different diet coke: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_Diet ... e?#slide=1

eschano

Delighted you got the right help now!

eschano

Oh no Simpless! I am so sorry. It is best not to let your poor pup suffer but I know how hard it is. Thinking of you.

eschano

Hi Ursula, I didn't worry about diet coke until I was nearly 2 years in. As Imogen said, don't worry about the borderliners. Think minimum compliance for now :) As for S days: don't restrict yourself too much - it will backfire. I suggest: bake a German-style cake on Saturdays and share it with your...

eschano

Servus Ursula, Really lovely to meet you. This "wonder where I would be if I had only stuck with it..." seems to be a common thing with returning NoSers who lost patience along the way, so no worries, this time it will stick :) I know what you mean about the 3 meals a day in Germany and Austria - no...

eschano

Hi Chani, thank you so much for your great answer on auto's thread. It helped me to find a better understanding. I think what annoyed me personally about it (and I can't speak for auto) is that counting bites is what feels to me aggressively advertised by some users as THE solution, not that some pe...

eschano

Wow, Sinnie, you find that being at home makes eating well EASIER? I wish I could get a slice of that attitude. For me it just makes me want to stuff my face all the time

I think you're right not to let other people chime in. It's a big decision.

eschano

Welcome to the forum! I'm delighted to hear you had great success with it. It's always great to hear from someone who achieved so much with NoS. Looking forward to reading your thread.

eschano

Hi Auto, I'm glad you said this because look at all the outpour of support! As you know, I feel counting bites is like an eating disorder and avoiding that kind of obsessive behaviour (calorie counting included) is certainly what I came to NoS for. As for losing slowly: Have you ever seen the skin o...

eschano

I'm completely with you Dandelion! In the end it's about health not just looking good.

eschano

and I check my bank and it's all sort of ridiculous transactions. That's exactly what I feel like! Yesterday NoS Green - the last few weeks I always had grapes or other fruit after dinner but yesterday I didn't need anything. I had gorgeous Moroccan meatballs (made by the bf) again with couscous an...

eschano

Of course! The more the merrier

Welcome!

eschano

Hahaha, auto! Yeah, that garbage thing is his too. I iron his shirts. But we split cooking as he loves it. Imogen, thanks so much - though I find it so hard! I am having a micro-spending revelation that rivals my snacking-revelation when I started NoS - you know, when you suddenly realise how much y...

eschano

Oh Imogen, so much to decide!

If you come to London we can go for coffee and cake (on an S day)

eschano

Oh Linda, it sounds exhausting alright. It's a good lesson for your daughter not to procrastinate (I wish my parents had taught me that).

Also, can I please invite myself to your house for lunch or dinner? It sounds so ridiculously good!

eschano

I love that reminder about the minimal compliance - that's what NoS is all about

eschano

Welcome! I would aim for the 5 o'clock dinner too and you can always have a milky hot drink before going to bed. Or herbal tea, whatever rocks your boat.

Very impressed with the martial arts training.

eschano

Oh Kookie, you know, when I did therapy I always binged after my sessions. When you come from a lifetime habit of soothing yourself with food it's hard not to. but you know what? It's ok! Maybe even just make the days you're in therapy S days and plan a super great treat afterwards. Life is not just...

eschano

Auto, since I am doing my SavingToBuyAMiniYacht I admire you even more, if that is possible. I find it nearly impossible not to spend money on two days a week and have no idea how you manage five! I feel like having the same revelation as when I started NoS at the beginning and suddenly realised how...

eschano

Yeah, well done! And everyone who is a mother or has a mother deserves to celebrate together with their loved ones with some treats.

eschano

Thank you for sharing the wonderful insights. Two mini meals and two bigger meals is vanilla NoS in my books. In the NoS books it even says that's ok. And dividing up your breakfast makes sure your portion control is really the same as 3 meals. Doing well!

eschano

What a wonderful name! Welcome back joy&balance

eschano

Yesterday: NoS Green - I finally had a normal/light N day again after last week's heavy ones. Feeling much better for it! LAM Green - let my boyfriend take care of booking parking for our summer holiday and also of getting the tyres changed on my car. It's so nice not to have to deal with this! I'm ...

eschano

Hi Kookie, When I went on NoS I had lots of emotional stuff come up as well. Because I couldn't medicate with food anymore. It took a while before it normalised but I worked out a lot of stuff. Also, I used to be starving by dinner time. Now, I'm barely feeling a little twinge of hunger so it's wort...

eschano

I completely understand! Are you switching it to vegetarian + fish rather than vegan?

eschano

Thank you all for your tips and support! Also, Happy belated Mothers Day to all you amazing mothers! I hope you got celebrated how you all deserve to be! So SavingToBuyAMiniYacht is more difficult than I thought. I completely forgot about it so today was a fail but I decided to just shift it to Tues...

eschano

Oh well done! Those are the hard ones. I hate it when friends say that they don't want to eat their "snack/dessert/etc." alone. I'm pretty direct (up to a fault), and once I said in a whole group of friends: "Oh good, it's going to be so good for you all not to have that cake before dinner. Imagine,...

eschano

Welcome! Looking forward to reading your thread

eschano

NoSRocks - your testimonials are a yearly highlight for me! Love them - they are so inspiring

eschano

Hi Imogen, great insight about your flexitarian days.

eschano

Welcome!

eschano

Hi Simpless! I hope you had a good S weekend.

eschano

Hear hear MJ!

eschano

bump! New week

eschano

As I understand it they are saying your BMI aka weight goes up either way if you eat fatty/highly caloric food.

So either way you will gain weight. However, if you eat it as a snack rather than as part of the meal your liver will get fatty and you'll have more belly-fat.

eschano

Hi MJ,

You probably trained a lot for the 10k. Any chance you now have less fat and more muscle?

eschano

Sick days are S days.

And you're right: if vanilla isn't your thing, it's just not your thing

Your mod sounds just as moderate as vanilla anyways!

eschano

Yeah, welcome back to the daily check ins!

As for WIDR: how about being even more positive - after all you did something right. So: Other than the candy tonight, I rocked it!

eschano

I agree with clarinetgal. Also, just focus on the meals. Every meal you manage as a N meal (including the period that comes before or after) is a success, even if you end up failing later. I completely know these phases and trust me, this too shall pass! Also, just stay on the boards. We've all been...

eschano

Hi Jill, I'm glad you've found what's wrong and got the right medicines. Onwards and upwards!

And looking forward to read how the other method of accountability goes.

eschano

Thank you! Linda, I'm getting quite worried that I'm not signed up to a pension scheme yet. But yes, retiring somewhere where your money goes further might be a good idea! Especially, if the climate is nice too. Auto, thanks for your blessing of the name :) Dandelion, drive-ins are a genius idea! We...

eschano

Oh well done! And how nice that your boss notices. It's a bit of a boost when people start noticing.

eschano

So, I have a new system. Like Auto, I want to save. My system will be a mini-SavingToBuyAYacht system where I won't spend money on Mondays and Tuesdays. Obviously, I'm way removed from buying a yacht - at the moment saving to pay my car tax due in August would be enough :) I have already saved an es...

eschano

Happy Birthday Linda! I'm sorry it wasn't a good one. Big hug.

eschano

If S Days consist of months of weekend bingeing then, the Habit you are developing and sustaining is weekend bingeing. [/b] Well, for me that was not true. I had 1 1/2 years of weekend bingeing but the habit I trained was N days because habit is what you do most days and N days are most days. I thi...

eschano

How often do you take measurements auto? Could the low or the high or both blood sugar readings been a coincident? I think you need a fair average to properly compare, like over a month, which would also allow you to understand what foods make your blood sugar jump higher. However, knowing you you a...

eschano

Graham wrote:seems like you can pick a study to support No S, or to contradict it.

Yep, when I studied statistics I found that you can even use the SAME study more often than not to interpret whatever you want

eschano

Great article! Thank you.

eschano

Auto, I think you are going through something completely normal. If anything, it was not normal that you weren't an idiot before haha. So yes, I think seasonality is a possibility - I know I eat a lot of junk this time of the year and in autumn. Somehow not in winter or summer. Again, yes, you would...

eschano

Imogen, I responded on the General Discussion thread that I think it might have been pre-mature optimization. After reading this now, can I also gently suggest that how you think about your "bingeing" is unhelpful. I really don't want to offend so please know this all comes from kindness. Your way o...

eschano

Thank you guys for the support!

All green yesterday

eschano

Lol Dandelion, I know these days! You can do it!

eschano

My gut says you didn't stick to it long enough. Eventually the habit caries over. If you stick to vanilla for 2-3 years you surely will see S days calm down. I only saw them slowly calming down after 1 1/2 years and then they went up again and now I have some idiotic S weekends and some incredibly s...

eschano

Another reply from someone not in your situation: Adult diabetes was very rare in the times where 3 meals a day was the norm, now that 5-10 little meals are common diabetes 2 is on the rise. I would say NoS is not hurting you! If you think you need to change something I would suggest you change what...

eschano

Auto, just to let you know, I decided to do a mini-StrategicSpending by making Mondays and Tuesdays no-spending days. Nothing compared to your system but I'm already finding this crazy hard

eschano

Love your body because it allows you to live, to breathe, to sing, to dance. Love your body because without it you would be nothing. Love your body because your experiences all pass through your body before your make them yours. Love your body just as it is right now because it is the greatest gift....

eschano

Coming off a very heavy three day weekend as it was a bank holiday here. I really thought about the issue with why I want a mod, allowing for more food and finally decided that the problem is not Vanilla NoS it's that I don't like weighing that little (not kidding, it triggers me), so I'm not going ...

eschano

Oh, well done! Now you have a glimpse why this is the best system ever (in my books).

eschano

Auto, I love your thread. Because of you I got inspired to properly look into personal finance and got lots of great tips from the internet that I hadn't thought about yet.

Also, yes, some weeks are tough but all in all it's easy compared to other things.

I liked your analogy to a marriage

eschano

coming unstuck around Easter and my birthday seemed so, I dunno, so last year , Lol ironchef, I know exactly what you mean! Especially, after a 3 day weekend that was kind of idiotic on my part haha. I'm glad that your husbands granddad is getting better. And very sorry about his grandmother. Thank...

eschano

Delighted your party went well Linda! And also than you for posting about cleaning and boyfriends on Dandelion's threat

That helps!

eschano

Wow you all, I am overwhelmed by all the lovely and supportive comments! In the end you all reminded me how powerful vanilla NoS is and that I don't need another S day during the week. Vanilla NoS it is for now. Oolala, wise as always! Also, thank you for Linda for reminding me of your experience. I...

eschano

Well, that's an S day not a fail then! So give yourself some slack

eschano

Lol, sorry auto but thankfully you found it anyway

eschano

Hi Oohlala, Thank you very much for your advice! I will take it to heart. The S that gets me the most is sweets but I reached my goal weight and thought I could relax a bit but now I'm not sure so I thought I would try out mimi's extra S event during the week but then I got afraid it would involve i...

eschano

Yummy, coconut cream as a substitute, that sounds amazing. I have no problem with milk but I'll definitely try that one!

Well, if Chris sent you a lovely email back, just apologize and say thanks for the pointers

eschano

Thanks auto & eschano! You all have been so supportive even when you could have easily done the "I told you so" dance. Don't kid yourself: we are learning as much from your thread as you do! I couldn't have said "told you so" as I didn't have a clue that it wouldn't work for you. Some mods work for...

eschano

Hi Dandelion, I saw that you wrote this on auto's thread but didn't want to hijack her thread with my response: I'm so tired of the mess :( I don't have a cleaning system as we have a fortnightly cleaner who does all the hard work (yep, best Â£40 per month spent ever, although it required giving up ...

eschano

thanks for your lovely reply on my thread auto! Hope you're enjoying your time away.

eschano

Maillot_Jaune wrote:
I have kicked the Diet Coke habit as it just makes me feel full and uncomfortable.

Oh, well done! I have kicked it only this lent and feel so much better for it now.

Also, glad to hear you found a treat

eschano

Hi all, I think Mimi's plan sounds great but I believe I first have to get to have two or three S events per S day before implementing the one or two floating S events per week :) Auto, you are right. I also made the wrong deduction by assuming only 2 NWS days are allowed but the way you said it mak...

eschano

Ah, Mimi, I just saw that you already pre-empted me and replied on my thread. Thank you so much! This makes complete sense now. I will strive to have one or two S events per S day and when I can do that then it will be time to relax to another S event in the week :) Thanks for bringing clarity for w...

eschano

2) You don't want to be too perfect on your green N days, or when you do eventually fail, it will be harder to get back on track. (This is the logic of the part of me that wants to eat all of the time!) Lol! That is the funniest thing I've heard. Just brilliant! 1) You've been sick, it's okay to ha...

eschano

Hmmm. So oolala, I think it was you who suggested that drinking lots of water enlargens your stomach, which, I would deduct from that it leads to more hunger? Have you thought about training your stomach a little bigger by drinking more water (as you said you drink very little) so that you'll be mor...

eschano

Lol! Funny how your dr caught herself. Well done on her part thought because any other thing to say wouldn't have been great. Think your decision to make Vanilla NoS your ultimate fall back and also try to go for sugar sounds great. Do you only go after refined sugar or also fruit and honey etc? (Ju...

eschano

Hi Mimi, I am sure I have already read the answer for this somewhere in your blog before but just to clarify: Do you still take S days as well (as having an S event on Saturday and one on Sunday) or just random but limited S events? Thank you for your caution. I am a bit nervous about it so I'm not ...

eschano

Oh, well done for coming up with a solution for your candy problem. I know what you mean with fun size. It's like snacking for me - way too easy to lie to myself about how much I ate. One 100g bar chocolate is harder to reason away. Also, great LAM! I have to say, my voice has changed tone for the m...

eschano

Oh poor her! I hope this route works for you! My former dog (RIP) had ligament surgery and unfortunately never fully recovered. I think we walked him too fast and too much but the Vet recommended it. Usually, the dogs know best themselves.

Great that you stuck to NoS anyways.

eschano

Well done biggirllosesweight! Two weeks is brilliant. I had lots of reds at the beginning :) I agree, clarinetgal, it's important to know what non-food crap we eat. I still eat some processes stuff but mostly try to buy it organic and the UK, thankfully, is much stricter on this but I am not kidding...

eschano

Hi Herbsgirl, I understand how like the Pavlovian dog your bites can become unconscious if something vibrates. You can become conditioned to take a bite unconsciously whenever you feel something vibrating. That would work. Counting, however, can't be unconscious as this is not how our brain works It...

eschano

Love your encouraging posts!

eschano

Found this article and thought it was interesting in terms of additives to the US food supply:

http://www.shape.com/blogs/shape-your-l ... allowed-us

eschano

I don't think anyone looks back on their life wishing they spent more time cleaning. You have your priorities straight & I think that's great. Lol Linda! I agree. Auto, happy anniversary! How amazing, 15 years. Have the best two days! NotReadyForMore made me laugh out loud so much! I think you have...

eschano

Mmmh, yummy food Linda!

I too like the idea of the extra S days. I think I naturally do that when I'm burnt out I have a fail and then I get right back to it. It might be worth considering adding that mod as I'm looking for something else now that I'm maintaining.

eschano

Welcome back! Lovely quote about the journey and very true.

eschano

Great plan Jill! I agree with Auto. I think do it like Reinhard suggests: one habit per monthly or in your case 6 weekly challenge and after 6 weeks add another habit until all of them are in place. I think auto had a lot of success with her systems because she added them one after the other (obviou...

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