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Blithe Morning wrote:We are seasonal creatures.

So true! I also have no proof but then, I have proof for nothing at all, just experience with my own body that might be different from others. But hey, Reinhard had no proof and his experience seemed to work for lots of people

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Welcome!! Have a wonderful first day.

I only have one late shift per month so it's not a thing for me but I am sure someone will soon jump into this conversation with helpful advice.

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I agree with Oolala that you will eat need to eat less to lose weight but I have a lot of trust in the process as a lot of people seem to have seen an automatic reduction in their plates and healthier choices. NoS makes it really simple. Eat three plates, don't be an idiot. Again, I ate mostly junk ...

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Last day!!! Come on everyone

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And it should be an NWS Day! I love Disneyland

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jw wrote: Just because she has a hammer doesn't mean I am a nail, as they say!

LOL!!!! Hilarious JW

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Oh well done Simpless!!

Hope you get better soon.

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LOL auto!

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OMGosh, you are so right, Auto!! Thank you for the reminder that the best part of No S'ing is enjoying my food, and having guilt free Yes S days. Going to relax, smile, have fun, enjoy my family, and cherish this break of having only one foster baby. I love that Chani! And the red-light-quote made ...

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Hello Skipper! Looking forward to reading your thread. Remember to drinks lots of tea and water between meals when the going gets tough.

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JW, I love that your parents are doing well! It sounds so nice that they met an acquaintance and that they are settling in and made some friends. Maybe it will all end up having been a big blessing. Fingers crossed. As for your health: don't let them chip away on your healthy feeling. Keep the feeli...

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Hi ELW, I love that you discovered this about yourself! The most amazing thing on NoS happens - once you are discovering freedom from perfect food control this freedom from perfectionism really gets into everything in life

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Thanks for stopping by my threat and your lovely encouragement! Your meal sounds amazing, yummy!

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You're doing great auto!! After Easter when my lent is over I will be adopting a modified version of StrategicSpending

Just don't want to pile on too much.

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You're such an inspiration. It's great to read your thread as you are so aware of yourself and of what works and doesn't work and you have the courage to try out all kinds of good ideas and learn if they are good practice for you.

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So sorry to hear that Sweetness! I hope your dad recovers soon! It's amazing that your habits are fine despite the stress- that's a real win and looks like it's a good chance that you'll be able to continue this in the states. don't worry about some extra S days or some red days, just take it meal b...

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Welcome Amy! If you binge on S days - don't panic! It will normalise.

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Hi Jill, In that case I think put it down as "funny stuff". I often have meals with my Italian friends and they serve more than one course, so 2-3 savoury courses and there can be up to 1 hour between the courses. I virtual plate and never overeat so I call it a green day. Just don't make it a habit...

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Thank you all! You are the best people - wish you could be here to celebrate :) I think I broke my lent - gave up coffee and diet coke for lent and when I had the most amazing caffe semifreddo I only realised afterwards. But well, it was delicious icecream dessert with some coffee in it so I'll trea...

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for the first year my plates were only junk food. The amazing thing was that in my second year I switched to healthy, home-cooked food completely by itself- I didn't mod or anything at all, just happened. I wouldn't worry about what goes on your plate yet!

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Just saw your new post as I was writing mine. Remembering from my year in DC where I only ate organic (very against GMO and in the US it's hard to tell unless organic), I can confirm: there are great pizza options and all you can wish at organic shops. Delighted you realised that your red streak was...

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Hiya, So I'm not a long-timer but... Lately there have been many posts by old-timers struggling and I see three common themes in there, most of which you mentioned as well: 1. Going through a rough time at the moment: it seems that lots of people are having a rough time and what strikes me is that t...

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I'm rallying for your 21 day club challenge to come through!

So we must have started around the same time

9th July for me. I'll celebrate it like a birthday, haha!

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I had a talk with my colleague who always gives up sweets for lent and she said something really interesting that I think applies to your current hard time: "You would think that I'd be desperate for sweets at day 40 but I always find I don't need them anymore. Desperation comes around day 20 and yo...

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Thank you guys! I'm feeling much better now. I took it easy yesterday, which helped. Today is an Extra S day as it's my birthday so come on cake! :) Yesterday: NoS Success - again stretched the dinner limits but green LAM Success - took it very easy yesterday and had a lovely dinner with a friend wh...

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Last few days!

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Brilliant! Well done

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A great lesson for all of us. Thank you for sharing!

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:oops: (sometimes I forget this is a diet board) Hahaha, I love that about this board! And I love about NoS that it allows you to focus on all these other, way more important things rather than focus on how many calories are in a grape and whether or not you can afford a second. Seems like you have...

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Hear Hear auto!

Chani, I think what you could use more of right now is kindness with yourself. Big deal if your eating is all over after your strict eating. You're only experiencing what most people experience when they come off a diet. No biggie, just relax and experiment a little.

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eveninglightwriter wrote:Please remind me of this post when in July it is over 100 degrees and I have to mow the lawn.

Hahahahahaha!

Also: well done on your hard one Green Day!

Plus: love the fact that you're ditching the self-help books. Just being is great.

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Congratulations on your 7 months auto! So close to your first testimonial now :) Have to admit: I watched frozen twice, loved it so much, hehe. As for the blueberry muffin: as you were at a conference I would file it under "funny stuff". I'm very inspired by the way you make walking work even at a c...

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Happy Wednesday!

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sounds yummy!

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Thanks Linda! I agree :) Yesterday: NoS Success - really stretching the limits of what goes on a plate at dinner but green it is. LAM Success - Felt really poorly with headache and stomach cramps so went home an hour earlier and cancelled all plans. Spent the evening on the couch watching The Good W...

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Oolala hang in there! But maybe you should pretend to be at the beginning of NoS again, scrap all mods and only worry about vanilla for now?

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Congrats!!! That's brilliant

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You are awesome guys! Yesterday: NoS Success - all green. Fajitas for dinner- yummy. Wore my new jeans that are still pretty tight and realised that I felt full very quickly. Weird trick but don't think that's healthy. LAM Success - two of my friends are a big high-maintainance, especially at the mo...

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Hahahahaha! I had to laugh so loudly when I read the part of noone noticing that you actually never eat the treats.

Delighted you tried the recipe and that you and your husband liked it!

Also well done on your day so far. Good one! 3 cupcakes- that's boardering on sabotage.

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Also: coconut water

It will re-hydrate you!

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Thanks so much for stopping by my thread! Delighted that your parents are now settling in. I'm sure it will take a little to get used to it but they'll get good care now.

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Your 8 year old asked you to read? You are raising readers!!! Well done

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Home made espresso ice-cream?? YUM!!!

I think those over-the-top S days are needed from time to time. The frequency goes down anyways but once in a blue moon it's a great pressure release!

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Positives are: 1. I'm legit in a yellow day now and I haven't let this cascade into a crazy binge. 2. I'm still reporting in to this forum, not letting my "embarrassing failure" (or whatever my subconscious calls it) make me shy about reporting it. 3. On Monday I'm going back to N days. That is how...

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Yay you! Vanilla successes

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Hi ironchef,
Thank you so much for your vote of confidence on my thread! It means a lot.

Your weekend sounds absolutely lovely and well done on your green week of NoS and on establishing a great 14min habit!

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Thank you so much all of you! Your supports means everything! There are many days when I wouldn't have made it without you.

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Oh, I remember you so well from the boards and you were and are an inspiration, whether or not you took a short break!

You'll get right back in there and if there are a few fails while with your family - don't beat yourself up, just Nos until the next meal.

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Thank you MustLoseWeight, you are very kind!

I had only about 20 pounds to lose to hit my normal BMI but of all things I'm most thankful about the freedom I found with food, imperfection, and even relationships.

I know you'll love this

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All of the above. Candy, dessert, predominately sweet things (exception: fruit). It's everything that isn't part of a main course, really. It's not No sugar. So a spoonful of sugar in your coffee or porridge is fine. A dessert-like porridge isn't. Get the difference? You'll know what a sweet is, rea...

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Hi all,

As usual I'm looking through old threads and found this (link still works). I love her experience of NoS and the concise summary:

http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/06/ ... ttony.html

This was originally unearthed by storm fox on 28th July 2008.

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Bump up! To one last green day this week - yay!

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Hahahahaha Germanherman!

But to all of you: thank you so much for sharing your wisdom!

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Hiya, Delighted you're going back to vanilla NoS! I know how frustrating plateau's are. I had three plateaus on NoS and the worst was over 5 months of not losing any weight. However, maintaining is a lot better than gaining and my default before NoS was to gain slowly but steadily over the years. An...

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Great one auto!

Well, if it has to be done on a weekday than I think it's an S day for StrategicSpending rather than a fail

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I'm in awe of the seven week rotation menu as well! Amazing :) I guess the anger challenge counts as LAM as well? Auto, I never count drinks as long as I stick to two and it doesn't taste like dessert (a bailey's cocktail would be a dessert for me but a classic straight margharita is fair game in my...

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eveninglightwriter wrote:Today I realized that I rarely thought about sweets - now that is a miracle!
It was like I'd forgotten all my food woes - as though the hunger wasn't there...it was easy.

I love those days, they are so good and they definitely become more and more frequent the longer we practice N days.

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Vanilla NoS means that you follow NoS without any modifications. Some people for example have floating S days or allow themselves one treat per day as a modification or count calories or bites. As far as I can tell from the boards vanilla NoS has a great success rate. I wouldn't worry about modifica...

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YAY! I did it! I'm so delighted. I had a green N day working from home. Something unthinkable a year or even 6 months ago. So happy! As I'm in bed about to go to sleep I'm pretty confident. Today: NoS Success - all green despite working from home! LAM Success - working from home was lovely. It's muc...

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I thought it was very important for me, as a former binge eater, to go through a S-day-binge-phase. Only with NoS have I learnt to be around trigger food without overeating. But it took about a year. Now, I have true freedom from food. So it all depends on how patient you are and if that's the right...

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Hi Beth32, I don't do shovelglove. It's an unrelated system. While I think it sounds like a brilliant system it doesn't work with my schedule so I go to the gym and do other things, like dance classes about 3 times a week. On days when I go to the gym I make sure that I have a heavy, dense plate for...

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Don't quit biggirllosesweight! Some weeks or even couple of weeks are hard, some days are unbearable, and sometimes we fail. A lot. But NoS is a way of life and you're in it for the long run. Most weeks are easy, most days are bearable and sometimes we have a green run. Stick to your gun so that you...

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Good god, I'm so happy that your daughter is going to be fine! I wish her a speedy and full recovery!

Keep your good habits!

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Amazing and inspiring testimonial! Thank you for sharing.

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Joining a gym is a great step!

I noticed my blood sugar stabilising after a few months of NoS so I hope it's the same for you!

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I agree with auto - love that quote from you!

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Hahaha, that made me laugh. I know exactly what you mean with "he doesn't want to hear about another diet". One of my best friends just doesn't have the patience to do NoS so she goes in between overeating and snacking and crazy diets every month and I just can't hear it anymore. I think you're righ...

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Thank you auto, ironchef, and Pipina! That's three very good tips :) As I can't leave the house because I'm waiting for 5 deliveries so I have planned all three of my meals. Usually, I am only at home when it's an S day so I will keep telling myself - N Day, N Day, N Day. And I'll check in here all ...

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That's the spirit! YAY!

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Hmm. I think Disney movies like The Lion King are about being a leader and taking responsibility for others and your actions/place in life. There are so many books I can think of but most are for an older audience, like Lord of the Rings, Lord of Flies, Watership Down. I'll think about some more app...

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Wow Linda, it sounds stressful and you got so much done and yet didn't lose your patience?? Awesome GREEN day on your 21 days without anger.

Yeah, I'd say a smoothie is a fail but a very very tiny one! (and healthy and yummy) but good to have a strategy in place.

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My secret weapon is taking a hot bath. Until I'm done and did my hair 2 hours can go by :) Otherwise lightening candles, taking a hot cup of tea with milk (preferably herbal tea with cocoa beans or vanilla or cardamon as they smell super nice and have 0 sugar nor do they taste sweet) and grab my fav...

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Yes, I had a week of heavy plating last week (pizzas, burgers, all kinds of super dense food) and maintained. Don't worry about it. Next week will be light (I couldn't see a single dense food anymore so had super light foods naturally this week so far).

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If I were you I would probably start with one kind of starch for a couple of weeks that you know is easy to digest. Flying in the face of all dietician's advice every: White Basmati Rice is the easiest to digest for me. Wholemeal is so much harder! I would suggest you use easy to digest vs. healthy ...

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Glad you're feeling better now and that you're doing so well on the gym.

Sick days are definitely S days

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Yep, so I've proven it once again to myself: if I'm sticking to Vanilla NoS I'm still losing weight. Slowly but steadily. It's when I'm stretching the limits (extremely dense plates filled to the brim, unhealthy junk food for a whole week) or have a kind of red week that I maintain (!!!). Yesterday:...

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I'm doing Friday - Sunday (sleeping time) and am still losing weight. It depends. But Fridays for me are not mental. It's just a shared dessert when I'm out or something smallish.

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Some people have hot chocolate and don't count it. Personally, I think of all chocolate as dessert even the 80% I sometimes indulge in but whatever works. If it really doesn't taste sweet go for it but if it tastes sweet it will be much harder to train your tastebuds to stay away from sweets. I thin...

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Yay to sticking out the plateau! Love when that happens.

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Thanks auto!

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Well done! Maintenance is success after all.

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Well done!

I think there's nothing wrong with tracking and recording as long as you don't get upset when there's a fluctuation. Also, I think once your habits are unconscious that obsession will die down.

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Your husband is a darling and how fun that NoS is a diet where McDonalds is not a problem from time to time

If you freeze a banana do you freeze it in it's skin or peel first (yep, see, still a beginner after all, haha).

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A 21 days anger-free challenge? Amazing. Let me know how it goes. I'd need that badly but fear I couldn't go for two days haha.

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Thank you so much you all! You rock girls! Cooking has become my main creative outlet. Although, I don't do it that often. I only cook about twice a week but loving it. Yesterday NoS Success - all green. After a week of heavy plates last week, I'm back to lighter plates. My body craves it. I love ab...

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Welcome back! Looking forward to reading your thread. Don't worry about S days. I used to have a real problem with binge eating. I'm about 1 1/3 years in now and binging isn't a thing anymore. However, it took about a year for my S days to calm down. The key for me was to never punish myself or be h...

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Thank you so much for typing this out for me. It sounds delicious! I hope to get a chance to make it soon.

Yummy!

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Fantastic eveninglightwriter! Those hard won days are the best - you can feel proud of yourself all day today

Also, your LAM sounds lovely!

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If you are still losing 2 pounds in 2 weeks and your sweets are reigned in through NoS than I think you have absolutely nothing to fear. NoS will definitely get you there. I wouldn't try any mods yet. In what I have read on these boards very few people have sustainably maintained their weight loss w...

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I completely agree with that! I am a big advocate of healthy over thin. Thankfully, some rolemodels are starting to emerge. Thanks again for posting the link!

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Thank you auto and Linda! I cooked a Chicken & couscous one-pot http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/10760/chicken-and-couscous-onepot (I suggest only using the juice of 1/2 lemon instead of 1 lemon) and as it was an S day my first home-made Apple Crumble http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/applecrumble...

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Hi Niki, It looks to me like you are already in a healthy weight range. So losing on NoS for you will be a very long process. You might or might not reach your target weight, depending on how strict you are on N days and how soon your S days calm down. However, I'm with germanherman on that crash di...

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Thanks a lot for posting a link to the book Linda. I'll check it out! While I do agree I also feel a lot healthier since I'm on NoS and have hit my healthy BMI. My natural set-point isn't overweight as I had to do a lot of snacking to keep it up. But it will never be in the lower categories either a...

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You're a great inspiration jw! Amazing how you are taking it all and manage to actually improve your health throughout it.

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Lovely weekend ironchef! I completely agree with you on Ss. It's ok when they are baked by someone else I know but the store-bought stuff doesn't do it for me.

Your cake sounds yummy. Any chance you'd share your recipe? (unless it's a family secret of course)

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Great LAM!

Be careful not to overly limit your S days. If this is only your second S weekend you're running the risk to restrict prematurely. If you need a wild S weekend - give yourself one at the beginning.

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Seems like I should really see that movie. Funny, how you saw your neighbours at the restaurant. That's kind of nice.

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Sounds like a great weekend auto! Watch that posture on your long walks to work as well. I always make sure I'm contracting my stomach muscles, especially when carrying a heavy bag so I don't get a bad back.

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I completely agree with MJ. And NoS makes it much easier to forgive ourselves as instead of having a limited amount of weeks/months to reach a fixed weight we have a life-long behaviour that can absorb some slip-ups.

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Weekend Sat NoS - S Day - quite wild LAM - Success - napped all afternoon and took the time to get a few much needed tasks done around the house :) YEAH! Sun NoS - S Day - cooked a lovely dinner I'm very proud of. Love my paprika app and have ventured more boldly into cooking. LAM - Success - went t...

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