Everyday Systems

kccc

There seems a direct application to No-S... by limiting food to mealtimes, we are able to "distract" ourselves from food the rest of the time, just as those kids did with the marshmallows. No-S structure provides the frame that distances us from the temptation. I know I used to have this CONSTANT me...

kccc

Ah, that makes more sense. I would call it an N, and was surprised that you didn't since you and I seem to have similar attitudes toward food. :) However, the bread got used up in the sandwiches last night, except for one heel that I commandeered for my breakfast this morning. So... time to set the ...

kccc

Reneew, I like the term "snitching" - an easy "S" to remember! I'm going to adopt that one from you.

kccc

for an S-Day treat made with leftover bread, you can do a strata! basically a savory bread pudding. Or stuffing or panzanella. There's that whole world of recipes made up by desperate cooks to use up their stale bread ... You are making me want to start baking again! Thanks, Thalia! I like panzanel...

kccc

So does having to know if crispy fried potatoes taste yummy count? Or would I have to actually be checking to see if they were cooked? :roll: If you aren't essentially eating another serving (which I have been known to do, alas - and others here have reported the same), it may not matter. I just ha...

kccc

Ah, I see - you were reading a lot of diet-sounding posts, and wondering about that. Nope, I eat real food. If you look at my own thread this week, there's a whole digression on the joys of homemade bread, which I eat with real butter. I do use 2% milk, but that's because I like it better - no other...

kccc

At this point, I'm with Vmelo - the biggest issue for me is what WW used to call BLT's - "bites, licks, and tastes." They can really add up if you're the family cook and table-clearer. However, a little tasting IS necessary at times when you cook. So my rule of thumb is to question every taste. ("Is...

kccc

For a two-post thread, yours says a LOT!

Congrats on the progress you've clearly made.

kccc

Lol! I have a breadmaker, and I absolutely LOVE it. I usually just make a standard 100% whole-wheat bread, which is healthier than most stuff I can buy. What happened in my family is that at first, we all gobbled it down - which was okay, b/c I started making bread just on S-days. ;) But over time, ...

kccc

Okay---I'm an idiot, but I can't find a sticky for daily menus. What am I doing wrong? I think what you're looking for is here: http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewforum.php?f=8 Yes, that's what I meant - the forum for everyone's daily check in. Not everyone includes menus on their daily thread, but ...

kccc

Thalia, I want to come to your house for dinner! Yum! I also do a lot of leftovers for lunch. My usual rule of thumb is to include 2 servings of fruit/veg at both lunch and dinner. If I have separate foods, I do "plate divisions" - 1/4 protein, 1/4 carb, 1/2 fruit/veg. Of course, with many dishes th...

kccc

Wednesday...

Pilates and Elliptical

Br - yogurt and banana
L - Leftover pasta and pesto (big serving, once I put it on a plate), salad, strawberries
D - Scallops, couscous, salad, peas-and-carrots, with 1/2 slice homemade bread. I love homemade bread!

kccc

Putting food on a plate REALLY does make a difference. I often eat lunch out of various tupperware-type containers. Never worried about it, because I could see all the food at once and had an idea of how much I was eating. Or so I thought. Well, I recently brought a small plate to work, because I do...

kccc

Difficult Memorial Day... went to the mountains, but it rained most of the time. Food was very good - I had a lot of seconds/sweets, but no snacks... until Monday, which was red. (This has not been the best month for me in terms of No-s compliance.) Got in a hike Sat/Sun - not much, but something. M...

kccc

I wouldn't try to influence behavior directly, but I might make some kitchen modifications. (Spoken as The One in Charge of the Kitchen at my house.) - If snacks commonly sit out in plain sight, I'd rearrange to find a cupboard for them. (With a bowl of fruit as a possible exception.) They can still...

kccc

Welcome back!!! You are dealing with so much. As an emotional-eater myself (whether stress or boredom - if life isn't PERFECT I want to eat!), I understand the temptation to console yourself with food. The suggestion of "phasing in" the S's is a good idea. But I think you need to pay special attenti...

kccc

Butterfly and Milczar, It is so nice to check in on my thread and find encouraging notes! Especially since... I had a red day yesterday. :oops: It happens. Long hard week, no time for a "real" dinner, munchies at a meeting... I just gave up. It was definitely a red, and I just take comfort that (1) ...

kccc

No exercise Mon/Tu. Alas.

Wednesday - 15 minutes of bedtime yoga
Thursday - 30 minutes on Elliptical

Not much, but doing the best I can.

Fine on No-S.

kccc

I actually went and read the original post/comment, and I think I see the point WouldYouEva was trying to make... here's the line that mentions self-hatred - bold is my addition: I'm happy with NoS but their message boards are, not surprisingly, full of a lot of self-hatred, food obsession, and guil...

kccc

Exercised Saturday and Sunday on the Wii - a surprisingly good workout now I've gotten the hang of it. At a conference, which was supposed to be a warm sunny beach location and instead is cold and rainy. LOTS of food. I have managed not to have snacks or sweets, but think tonight's dinner probably c...

kccc

Rough week. Fitness center is closed, I'm in non-stop meetings. Sigh. No exercise on Monday at all. :( Pilates on Tuesday. Just bedtime yoga stretches on Wednesday - barely enough to count. And a red day on Tuesday... My first in a while. It was one of those all-day meetings with a table of food rig...

kccc

I think they're a necessary "release valve," so that you don't blow it when the stress builds too much. On the other hand, they don't have to be a free-for-all. Finding a balance between letting them be too strict or too wide open is a balancing act, different for each person. There's an old post I ...

kccc

Thanks, and back at you! (Belatedly.)

kccc

Exercise on Saturday - walking Exercise on Sunday - walking and playing on the new WiiFit I got for Mother's Day... when I could wrest it away from my son! The WiiFit is fun. However, it gauged me as 4 years OVER my actual age,which I did not appreciate. I think that's because it uses balance as its...

kccc

If you google "ten thousand steps" (not sure if you spell it out or not - try both ways) you'll find walking program for people with pedometers. If I recall correctly, one piece of advice was to figure out your baseline and then try to increase by 10% every week (?) until you reached goal. The incre...

kccc

Pilates on Wednesday 30 minutes on the elliptical no Thursday Muscle Strength class (plus some gardening) on Friday. Had a WONDERFUL dinner the other night. Was going to be just me (hubby and son were out), and it needed to be fast. I had homemade bread that needed to be used, so was planning on a s...

kccc

Yes, I think the ONE thing I've taken away from the No S experience is to focus on the behavior more and the result less. I love that lesson. I think in the long run, I'm going to be the better for it. In the short run, it is more challenging. But I've tried so many short run methods that have ende...

kccc

Yes, I think the ONE thing I've taken away from the No S experience is to focus on the behavior more and the result less. I love that lesson. I think in the long run, I'm going to be the better for it. In the short run, it is more challenging. But I've tried so many short run methods that have ende...

kccc

As Wosnes said, you'll get a variety of opinions on sweeteners. I'm in the "avoid" camp... but I think I met my lifetime quota in prior years. I switched from sweetener to sugar in my coffee some time back. One of the things that helped was to stir it a LOT. It doesn't dissolve as well, so the top p...

kccc

10 percent is a great goal..! But I'm 150 so that would be 135 and I haven't been that in a looooong time. Since I was 18. The way WW does it (speaking as a veteran) is that you can't set your final goal at the beginning if you have a lot to lose - people set very unrealistic goals, and get discour...

kccc

I think I agree with TunaFishKid. However, if you want to continue working with your nutritionist, keep in mind that it's a collaboration, not just you mindlessly obeying her orders. You are the one that lives in your body! You get to own the responsibility for it (which is both empowering and a lit...

kccc

Sounds as if you've made a GREAT start.

kccc

I love peanut butter and banana sandwiches and haven't had one in ages! Thanks for the reminder. :) I love them too! Aren't they yummy? I sometimes have a bagel or home-made bread with PB/banana (or even PBJ, if I keep the "j" reasonable) for breakfast or lunch. Really filling. :) I've discovered g...

kccc

Lol @ StrawberryRoan. Butterfly, a lot of us keep individual daily threads - I've had one for a looong time. The Challenge is an optional community effort, which appeals to some and not others. You can do what you want in terms of tracking your own progress. If I were participating in the Challenge ...

kccc

Nicole, I read your post when too busy to respond, but my reaction was "You go, girl! Too right!" It's a lovely summary of the multiple benefits of exercise. You are REALLY smart to develop the habit while young! I'll add one more, that you're too young to know about. :) As you get older, it's easy ...

kccc

Lovely! Thanks for sharing.

(I like edible treats too, but one of the welcomed "side effects" of No-S is getting in touch with senses other than taste!)

kccc

Exercise:
Pilates/Yoga on Saturday
Walked on Sunday
Yoga on Monday
Walked on Tuesday

Going well on No-S.

kccc

KCCC, yeah ... it's changes I made just for myself, since they seem to help me a lot ... No hard feelings anyway, those are just tips I thought could help out others, u see. Take 'em or leave 'em, it's all good. I'm glad the modifications are helping you. Anyone can certainly modify No-S in any way...

kccc

Marc, any mod that you make for yourself is of course fine - and what you're doing is obviously working quite well for you. It's just a bit confusing (especially for new people) to see advice that's clearly in opposition to the basics of No-S, and (IMHO) not particularly helpful as a result. Perhaps...

kccc

Good job, Reinhard! Look forward to the next ones. I like the rule of thumb floating around the boards that you shouldn't even CONSIDER tweaking until you've made the 21-day club. Not just "tried the vanilla version" for 21 days, but followed it CONSISTENTLY for 21 days. (And longer is better.) Whil...

kccc

Good luck, dementedAngel. Look forward to seeing you on the main discussion board.

kccc

Posted on the main board about how good it felt to have a lunch with colleagues, and not angst over my choices... one plate, no dessert - all good. Lovely feeling. Today was just fine, even though I was in the situation where I have caved before - a meeting where there is junk on the side all day, a...

kccc

I use No-S as "maintenance" - which sounds boring until you know that I couldn't maintain before No-s. I'd lose with great effort, then my weight would climb back up. Now, I just maintain, with almost no effort. (I say "almost" because every now and then I get sloppy and have to rein myself in. Howe...

kccc

... (feel free to add)... I love No-S because I can eat so NORMALLY. I'd packed my lunch today, but there was a special open-house with lunch food that I'd forgotten about. Went there and liked what I saw - yummier than what I'd brought. So I had a plateful. One plate, none of the desserts - perfect...

kccc

Tues exercise - about 20 minutes walking. Not great, but best I could do.
Wed - Pilates class
Thurs - 30 minutes on elliptical

Good on No-S.

kccc

Cool, huh?

I agree. It does exactly that.

kccc

I always have two cups of cafe au lait (coffee, and about a cup of milk total).

Then I might have
- oatmeal with fruit (hot or cold) OR
- PB&J (when I make bread) OR
- multigrain bagel with cream cheese or PB

I might have scrambled eggs and toast if it's a day I'm at home for breakfast.

kccc

Welcome! I find the biggest advantage of this way of eating (hard to call something so normal a "diet") is that it allowed me to make peace with food - to actually enjoy my food because I'm not consuming it with a side order of guilt. Weight management has become a secondary outcome. Best of luck to...

kccc

For Monday, exercise was a Pilates routine (the Siler intermediate one). No-S was fine. Made fish (baked with "crust" - panko and parmesan), pasta, veggies (mixed, with baby corn in it), and fresh fruit salad. Yum! Very good, very filling. The fruit was like dessert - I'm tasting fruit as "sweet" mu...

kccc

Pizza... love it. But on No-S, I've really learned to cut back. I can actually do JUST 1-2 pieces if I put a salad on the side and sit down with it as if it's a full meal. And that's actually satisfying. But if the dining is sort of casual, pizza is all there is, everyone's eating out of the box... ...

kccc

I used to get their support and gentle reminders, but now they pass temptations in front of my face for fun. I remind them that I buy the groceries around here and I'll go on junk food strike if they keep it up. They know I'm serious. Side note: I went on mowing strike 2 years ago when my hubbie sa...

kccc

Greek yogurt and fruit would be a wonderful topping. Or Greek yogurt, honey and nuts. The thick smoothie doesn't sound appealing at all to me, but I think it could be because I think of smoothies being icy cold, and icy just doesn't work on a pancake, in my opinion. Good point - I was thinking of t...

kccc

Circle of life... A friend of mine had a baby yesterday. Another friend died of heart failure early this morning. I am struck by how complex and textured life is - rarely "pure" emotions of any kind. == Doing fine on No-S. I did nibble on my cheesecake a little, but threw most of what I took back to...

kccc

I've seen two basic approaches on this board, completely opposite to one another. Either can work, depending on personality. 1) Weigh infrequently, so losses show up clearly. 2) Weight very frequently, but track trend lines or develop a mental mindset such that daily fluctuations are not distracting...

kccc

~reneew, a smoothie-type topping on pancakes sounds delish! I like smoothies, but they never feel like a "meal" to me. Just not solid enough, I think. A bran-type pancake with a very thick smoothie-like topping would be awesome! (Someone posted a recipe using frozen banana as the base recently - tha...

kccc

My experience (one child, so limited sample - but I observe others) is that power struggles over bodily functions of any type with kids almost always end up creating more problems than they solve. When my son was little, I considered that my job was to select what food choices were available (limiti...

kccc

What I like are technically "herbal infusions" rather than real (black) tea, which I do NOT care for... except when I'm visiting England, where I drink it instead of my usual coffee. Somehow, I think it tastes different there. ;) Normally, I drink Red Zinger (hibiscus) and Lemongrass teas every day ...

kccc

You've gotten a lot of great ideas. I like cream cheese (not much!) and jelly (not much!) Or PB Or ricotta cheese Or applesauce Or fresh berries On the kid front - some totally unsolicited advice that you're totally free to ignore... :) Tthere's a book about "how to get kids to eat, but not too much...

kccc

Dang it, just wrote a long, bloggy post and lost it to network burp. I hate that. In summary, I have been taken in by restaurant food, and am venting. Went to the Cheesecake Factory with a friend (her choice). I planned to have cheesecake, since it was an S-day, so purposely picked something that lo...

kccc

I was curious about the blood type, and looked up mine (type A). It was mostly vegetarian, no red meat, limited fish. I do tend to eat more vegs, but it excluded a lot that I love and feel I thrive on. However, I'm A/O (A is dominant, but because I know my parent's blood types, I know I carry O as a...

kccc

Success in No S yesterday
Exercise this morning - muscle strength class.

Too busy.

kccc

Yesterday was definitely successful. I felt tempted to eat some ice cream but didn't :). I made two new recipies : roast chicken and roast potatoes. Both were so good and so easy! I exercised while the chicken and potatoes were in the oven. That's what I love about baking your meal - it gives you h...

kccc

I envy those who like V8. I love fruits and veggies, but I just cannot stomach V8. My husband, who eats tons of butter, eggs, fried foods, etc. (and is thin, I might add! :x ) actually likes V8. It's one of the few healthy things he consumes. I agree. It's full of good stuff, but I find it undrinka...

kccc

A new default... I have started keeping some organic soups and grains in my office. (I have a microwave available, and keep a pyrex bowl at the office.) Pacific's Cashew-Carrot-Ginger (which comes in two-serving resealable boxes) is my current fave for soup - don't mind having it two days in a row. ...

kccc

At lunch, if I don't bring anything from home, I default to subway. What's bad about this is that at subway I get a six inch spicy italian, doritos and a large dr. pepper. I can't eat subway without the doritos and the dr. pepper. HELP!!! The whole point of this thread is figuring out "intelligent ...

kccc

That's so funny, I never was under the impression that fruit rollups were healthy. They always seemed like candy to me. Repulsive. They can vary from highly-processed-but-real-fruit to total sugar. Kind of like granola bars do. But you would be AMAZED at how many people give their kids the candy on...

kccc

My kids are allowed to have healthy snacks at school, including fruit roll-ups. They don't like that I won't buy fruit roll-ups except on special occassions. I've told them the only thing healthy about fruit roll-ups is the word fruit in the name! Kathleen The year I gave fruit rollups to my Son as...

kccc

Okay on N day for Wed

Exercise for Th = 1/2 hour on the Elliptical plus some Pilates (about 45 min total)

I have taken off the meditation habitcal.

kccc

Welcome back.

I'm very sorry for your loss. LA Loser is right, be gentle with yourself.

Glad to see you here.

kccc

Success yesterday on No-S. (Going fine today.)

Exercise = Pilates.

I am taking meditation off my habitcal for a while. Just not working for me right now, and I'm tired of feeling guilty about it.

kccc

My experience is that I can "train" my body to expect to eat at different times. But I have to pay attention. If I eat late at night, I'm not hungry in the morning. But that boomerangs, and I am hungry again late, which means... rinse, repeat. If I don't eat late in the evening, it breaks the cycle ...

kccc

Hi Doudou, LALoser and Debs and Thalia and others have already given you good advice. It's very normal for No-S to take longer than you expect, because it's NOT an extreme method. (My own experience has been that extreme methods - WW for me - can work to lose weight, but are hard to maintain on. One...

kccc

You've captured a LOT in those ten! I love #3, 4, 7, and 9, If there were a second set (the lost tablet), I'd add something about persistance/resiliance. For me, one of the biggest lessons of No-S has been that I can have a failure as an isolated mini-event, one that does NOT cause me to fail overal...

kccc

I am pleased to report that a glass of milk and a later glass of wine got me through the long evening. Oddly, I wasn't really hungry - it was just "time to eat." And I wanted to... but I knew in my heart of hearts that if I did, it would lead to a binge. Glad I didn't - once I was past normal dinner...

kccc

Of course the size of a person affects results. So does activity level, age, gender, etc. But that doesn't mean that there won't BE results for all of us. :) My eight-year-old son plays soccer, and was full of "they had an advantage!" talk after losing a game. My husband told him "everybody has adva...

kccc

This is a hard evening. There was a cookout at work today, a big faculty/staff thank-you. It was important that I be there, and I ended up eating. I'm counting it as early dinner (one reasibable plate), but it was at 4:00. I usually eat at 6-7. It's now 7:00. If I crack now, I will eat the rest of t...

kccc

Walked Sat and Sunday, though both shorter than normal. Saturday was my husband's b'day, so we ate out and I made a cake. So ate a good bit this weekend. Ate a LOT of cake on Sunday at lunch. I'm rethinking the "Friday at 6 to Sunday at 6" S-days after reading a question about them... maybe I am spr...

kccc

Good choice!

Do you have better choices at the cafeteria, or are you going to need to look for breakfast options?

kccc

Another tip... if there's a restaurant you go to a lot for some reason (work lunches or such), take the time to look up their nutrition information and figure out a few decent meals. Restaurant meals are just not as healthy as home-made and can harbor unexpected fat/calories. For these reasons, if I...

kccc

Thursday - No S, walk and stretches Friday - Muscle strength Lot of lunches out, because of work requirements, which are not good. I'm trying to make decent choices and have made ultra-healthy dinners - fish, beans, etc. Missed on meditation on Wed and Thurs. I am wondering if this is even a good go...

kccc

I've been No-S'ing for about 2 years (essentially in "maintenance" - which I couldn't do on Weight Watchers or other calorie-counting plans). It takes a while to adjust to the no snacks rule. I did it the way I'd wean a baby - cut the easy-to-drop ones first (which, for me, was everything but the 4:...

kccc

Welcome back. I've been around a while, so of course I remember you and am glad to see you. I'm sorry for your loss, and hope that you have loving friends and family around you. On comfort eating...One of the things I have learned about myself is that emotional eating is a misguided attempt at self-...

kccc

Hiya, Milczar! Very glad to see you. I said "hello" on your thread.

Doing okay with No-S eating.
Pilates this morning.
Actually meditated last night.

kccc

How nice to see you back!

Best of luck with No-S.

How is life in general?

Cheers,

KCCC

kccc

Well, it's incredibly effective in terms of showing me where I'm not meeting my goals. And sometimes it motivates me to push a little, so that I have a green day where I might not have. As far as the habits... varies. Right now, my minimal meditation goals are not being met. I see that clearly, but ...

kccc

I think you're right about the "successful habit meaning you don't want to go overboard." Something for me to think about, even after all this time doing No-S. On weekends, I still tend to graze if I'm under any kind of emotional stress at all (even boredom)... even though I feel much better when I ...

kccc

Haven't been tracking here, but have in Habitcal. Exercise fell down on the weekend - too busy, with the holiday. (Hm... I never take "extra" S's on exercise. To be considered.) Up until Saturday, did just fine. Monday - yoga. Tuesday - late for Bodypump, so did 30 minutes on the Elliptical (a littl...

kccc

What a very funny thread this is... it started out as "strict No-S" and wandered off into "micro-bites" (which, while they may work for some, are quite definitely a mod) and then into snacking at night, which is again not "strict No-S" (no matter what you eat, as counter-intuitive as that seems).......

kccc

Welcome back - and best wishes.

I think you're smart to come to this realization.

kccc

Update: I did talk to my instructor, and asked her to go over the form again on squats. She asked if I'd recently bumped up weights, which I had, and showed me exactly where the bar should go. I'd had it a bit high. She said I might want to drop back down on the weights as well as modifying the posi...

kccc

You're doing well to simply face what happened. Kathleen Thank you for the kind words, Kathleen. I think one of the strengths of No-S is the supportive community, and as long as I've been doing this, I still appreciate it. I do think you're right - I AM doing well to "simply face" what happened... ...

kccc

Because I have a long commute, I have fallen into the routine of having water and coffee first thing (cafe au lait, really, so there's a serving of milk in my two cups), and breakfast about 2.5 hours after I get up, once I arrive (and most days, after I've exercised). You do what works. If you can c...

kccc

I think a lot of us have plan ahead. I usually do by the week, at least roughly. It tends to fall into patterns - a fish dish, a pasta dish, chicken, a bean dish, maybe "red meat" (or not). Usually 2+ veg/fruit on the side... that kind of thing. Sometimes just a general plan, so I have stuff on hand...

kccc

Quaker Old-Fashioned. About 1/2 cup, soaked with an equal amount of milk (plus a dash of salt, cinnamon, and perhaps raisins or dried apricots).

I put it in the fridge overnight, and heat it in the morning. Or not - I like it cold too.

Though lately, I'm on a bagel kick instead.

kccc

Good on Monday, FAILURE on Tuesday. Sigh. I don't even want to talk about it. Well, okay, I will. Ate at a Mexican restaurant for lunch (colleague's celebration, their choice). Somehow, I cannot resist the chips on the table. When it's just me, I ask them not to bring the basket. When it's a crowd.....

kccc

Have had an erratic week, thanks to a "girls' weekend" with old college roomies. We ate a lot of indulgent food. We also walked for hours on the beach, which I loved, but I didn't get "normal exercise." Picking up on April 1 (Wednesday) Wed = Pilates Thurs = walked and did yoga in the AM (before tra...

kccc

Thanks, Winnie. On my last class, I cut the weights and really attended to form. My shoulder threatened, but did not seize up. I will talk to the instructor(s) and see what they say, but mostly I will be ultra-careful! (Have since been on a mini-vacation, so LOTS of walking has been my only exercise...

kccc

AmyLiz, Thank you for sharing your inspirational story - parts of it really resonated with me, and I am sure it will help many people who read it. I do think No-S allows people to "make peace with food" and even ENJOY it because we're eating reasonable amounts and can let the guilt go. For many of u...

kccc

Heidi, Like others, I'm awed by all the things you have on your shoulders. Your story reminds me of the advice you get when you fly, about putting on your own oxygen mask before assisting others. You need an oxygen mask, and I hope you find whatever lets you breathe a bit easier. On the yoga - you c...

kccc

What you're doing sounds fine to me. However, if you're pregnant, there is NOTHING WRONG with four meals. In fact, even for the non-pregnant, there's no set number of meals. Though most people seem to default to three, some do four and use slightly smaller plates. The goal is to make each meal PLANN...

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