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Many years ago, I was vegan for a couple of years, and my biggest memory from that time was that I felt like I had to eat constantly, all day long. I joked about it a lot at the time, but in hindsight, that kind of sucked. (Note - I know that WFPB is not vegan - I was just giving an example of a tim...

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How rough for your family to suffer two losses so close together. I feel that I would have really liked your Cousin Dale and his One Thing. I've been reading about the habit time to true establishment, as well. 66 days was a number I saw too, but honestly, I always feel like there are so many variab...

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Lovely to see you posting, worth it!

You sound like you are at a true happy place, and I love that!

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Monday, May 13 120.2 Eating B: coffee w/milk and brain octane oil L: (will be) yogurt w/berries D: (will be) maybe hamburgers? Moving walk/jog w/HappyHerder PersonalLearning Sexology: I can't seem to link from my computer but it's from a podcast called "ologies" and it is my new favorite. I've alrea...

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Agreed. And it sounds like your friend respected your food boundaries. I just went on a tirade on my thread about people that don't accept our boundaries on OUR OWN bodies. Whoa. Gettin' steamed again. :lol: And when you wrote your lunch, I was thinking yum.yum.yum. And then you said it was one of y...

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Sunday, May 12th Happy Mother's Day and Creator's Birthday! :-) I got a Kindle Paperwhite for mother's day + Creator made me an amazing book. So sweet. I cried because my heart was full. I have visions of reading in bright sunlight this summer with a diet sprite in hand. 120.4 Eating B: coffee w/mi...

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Saturday, May 11 121.0 Eating B: coffee w/milk & brain octane oil, eggs & a "rasher" of bacon. :-) L: skipped due to extreme car shopping. :shock: Well, had a banana before the party. D: Creator's party is at an indoor playground - gross pizza there. Maybe I'll wait. Update - I ate 2 pieces of pizza...

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Very inspiring post, April! I love this - it kind of made me tingle.

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It never ceases to amaze me when I sit down for a great dinner, after thinking I was "so" hungry, and realize that I just need a normal amount of delicious food and the hunger is a distant memory that I wonder if I actually felt the hunger so strongly or if I only imagined it.

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To ride on Oolala's coattails, what makes eating such bear in our modern cultures is that there ARE no commonly understood rules. No structure, no shared food habits or patterns. No set eating times, locations, rituals, cooking styles, there's too much variety (!) I think the final victory for NoS i...

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I think that is a good way of eating a meal.

My kids have a smoothie for breakfast many mornings (yogurt + berries + banana).

When I need to be "tided" over, I have milk.

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Happy weekend!

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Hi Dalia! :-) No need to feel bad about being here. In addiction research, I've learned that lots of people require multiple times to try and "quit" a bad habit or even a substance abuse problem. I would think that learning to change our eating habits is similar in that we learn something each time ...

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Hang in there Dandy!

I second that you need some sort of release valve - too tough to use willpower on too many things at once.

Just ride the wave and "embrace the suck" as someone on my no alcohol coach.me forum always says.

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Hi Nettee! I am going every single day!!! Can you believe that? My goal is to just get out there everyday.
I am a 7 day streak as of today.

Generally between 30 minutes and an hour. I listen to a podcast while I'm out, but yesterday I just preferred to listen to the birds. They were so happy.

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I like calling her Dandy. That is so cute.

And I appreciated her "butt-ins" too.

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The easiest way I cope is to find an extrovert who likes talking about themselves and let them do all the heavy conversational lifting. Bwahahaha! That is funny ladybird! The ironic thing here is that I am generally a talker; I just find mom talk to be so boring. So listening to someone else do mom...

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Awesome to work on the push-ups! I love doing bodyweight exercises and feeling strong.

Avengers! Creator and I shared an entire large popcorn and had these sour patch things that we would eat every time someone cried or hugged.

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Nice job in the face of temptation!

The running will come back! If you'd like to join me, I'm working on a 30 day walk/jog challenge.

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Thursday, May 9 121.0 Eating B: coffee w/milk & brain octane oil L: yogurt w/berries + 3 pickles D: will tonight be date night? I feel better about going out and avoiding wine than I did a week ago. So that's progress. Still probably best to get take-out and avoid temptation. Update - had a french ...

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Thank you, Jen! I am feeling pretty airy-fairy these days (throw in a little woo-woo, too), so this is perfect. The counselor I'm going to see if super woo-woo, judging by his website. Maybe if I think he's a little cray-cray himself I won't give in as soon to the desire to impress him (like Linda s...

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Happy Birthday Linda! The Belle of the Ball.

Holy Cow! So all three of you (plus 1 dog) have birthdays in the first couple weeks of May? That is astounding and must make for some wild times!

If you tell me Doc's birthday is next week I'll fall out of my chair.

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I was so green for about a year when I first joined, then there were a couple of years of bumpy times. The novelty has worn off and we don't feel as "caught" about our reds, nor do we feel as overall determined to stick to it. At least that's what happened with me a few times. On the "why did you le...

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Yay! That must feel so good!

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Pickles! I've started having them every day!

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Linda - so awesome about the great trip to Tucson! And I know you mentioned you and doc bonding, but it made me think about how sweet it is that your girls enjoyed hanging out together!

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How exciting that you are in an acting class! I do hope you are feeling better soon, so you can enjoy your acting.

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I seriously don't think I've ever "baked" anything without having a fail day!

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Tuesday, May 7 121.0 Eating B: coffee w/milk + brain octane oil L: yogurt w/berries + 3 pickles D: double cheeseburger w/ avocado, onion, tomato, bacon + 1 glass of milk Moving walk/jog w/HappyHerder. I have a goal to do this EVERY day for 30 days, even if I can only get out there for 10 minutes I'...

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Im always very honest in the beginning but then as time goes on i feel myself wanting to please them by making them think Im getting better which sometimes involves not being as honest as I originally was. Linda - this is EXACTLY what happens to me!!!! I guess a good counselor has a shelf-life base...

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Yay that you are feeling better, and as always, reading your thread makes my heart fill with how women can support each other in their endeavors - from physical productivity at each other's homes, to chatting on exercise walks. I know you've shared before, but do you have a suggestion for how I migh...

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Well, put Soprano! "Calm curiosity" - it's all data collection!

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Monday, May 6 121.0 Eating B: coffee w/milk & brain octane oil L: yogurt w/berries + 3 pickles D: beef salad bowl w/avocado & onion; 1 glass of milk 1 can diet sprite AND 1 cup kombucha after dinner Moving Walk/jog w/HappyHerder - going to work on going every day, even if it's only 10 minutes Perso...

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Yep - that's the theme today apparently - back on with a fresh start tomorrow!

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Here's to fresh start Mondays!

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Sunday, May 5th! Eating B: coffee w/milk, brain octane oil supplement, bacon & eggs, glass of milk L: leftover fried chicken + diet sprite D: will be dessert/snack - movie popcorn and a candy at the movies. Taking the kids and some friends to see Avengers at 5pm. Nice to not feel resentful that I wi...

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Thank you ladybird and Octavia! I'm feeling really good, empowered. I know hard times will come, but I'll try to enjoy the "sober high" and just make sure I have a big toolbox of supports in place for when the stress hits and the cravings return. Octavia, my goal with this counselor is to be totally...

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I totally think you can do this, but you might have to do biohacking and experimenting along the way. Especially since you are already NOT overweight, you may have to do something beyond Vanilla eventually. But if you're currently just starting Vanilla, I bet you'll see some nice successes for awhil...

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Yes, I weigh more when I drink diet soda :lol: Probably because it is accompanied by Cheez-its or bbq potato chips and a sandwich. This made me laugh out loud! I'm currently drinking diet soda instead of wine, so your first sentence made me nervous. But then I had a relieved laugh after reading abo...

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That is an interesting stage, where your unconscious mind and your conscious mind are more in alignment on portions, you know? Oolala always tells us that the changes come when we are motivated to avoid feeling a certain way later.

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Lots of sharing going on on this thread.

Maybe I'll listen to one of these podcasts on my morning walk!

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Happy Star Wars Day!

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Saturday, May 4 121.4 I want to pat myself on the back for my compliance the past few days. I've been super groggy, which often makes me crave comfort food, plus the stress of reading about alcohol use disorder and many related things is emotionally challenging, plus work is crazy and busy and ther...

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I'm all about moderate exercise and having gentler movement days.

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How the jeans fit is often a telling measure!

Sounds like you really super enjoyed your meals today.

That's always awesome to develop meals that you can look forward to; makes such a difference in forming those good habits.

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Secondly, i didnt realize how much happier I am around ppl. I always think of myself as such an introvert. My girls lift my spirits (when they’re not driving me crazy). This sounds like a really important recognition point that will make a big difference going forward for you! It used to hang in my...

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Ladybird, I bet you are absolutely right. I was just thinking last night that maybe I'd call my insurance today and learn about if any counseling is covered. I've always just paid out-of-pocket in the past, but I don't want to this time. Feeling weird about counseling this time, rather than excited ...

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I have very little urge to snack on MOST days. On some days, I still have those urges and have to apply willpower. If the urge is persistent, I have milk, coffee, tea, or a diet soda.

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I feel happily compliant and my mind is quieter.

Yay!

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Yay Della! This is really neat to see. Very happy for you.

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I'm sorry to hear that about your cousin.

Sounds like you were able to attend the funeral, though; I'm glad to hear that.

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That zucchini bread sounds divine. I could probably eat an entire loaf of that. I bet I could fit it on one plate.

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Here's to biohacking and our n of 1. I think these experiments can actually count as a "hobby" for some of us. And I'm not sure how you feel about that, but I think it's great.

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There's only before and during, and during can involve a lot of continuing adjustments.

I love this!!!

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The 21 day club! Cool!

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Thanks for the update!

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I had Indian food tonight too! Very delicious!

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Go Team! :-) Yes! Thank you Nonoodles. I am pretty sure I am not going to pay for this coach anymore! I'm sure it's a good fit for some people, but it's a little too much like a self-help book for my tastes. Don't get me wrong, I love me a good self-help book, but I have those at my fingertips, kind...

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Thursday, May 2 122.2 Kind of embarrassing thing happened. I shared some private things with my online coach and her reply made it pretty clear (in a very kind way) that she is a coach, not a counselor. Which of course I should have understood, but I felt filled with shame when I read her reply. My ...

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Thanks Ladybird for the support. We don't all struggle with the same stuff, but we can still be there for each other. Thank you. Nonoodles - yep, I think it is SCARY-similar to sugar addiction. This is an epiphany for me. I am TIRED of having moderation attempts take up valuable bandwidth. If that's...

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Thanks Linda - lovely to have you stop by my thread today. You're the one that inspired me to find a coach, actually. :-) I just felt like I'm worth it, ya know? It's OK to pay for a bit to try and get a little better handle on this. Nonoodles - I'm reading a book called "Naked Mind - Control your d...

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Oooh, I like the sound of this plan!

So happy to hear your updates!

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Monday, April 29 124.2 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogurt w/berries D: hamburgers? This would be a good night for that with everyone home after 5ish. Drinking Day #2 of my 20 day Clarity Challenge Working with a personal coach on this. One idea I had is that, after the 20 day challenge, I can consid...

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Hi Ladybird! So glad to see you here today! Tell me if I am understanding this situation correctly - you got sick, and have been overeating more since then. So then you started restricting your amounts at your regular meals to sort of "make up" for the general overeating bouts. So to try to stop doi...

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I super support your idea to plan your meals. I plan all our dinners for the week (it doesn't always go according to plan but is still wonderfully helpful to staying on track with NoS). Every morning I plan my meals for the day (well, I guess I don't really eat breakfast on N Days and my lunch is al...

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Thank you Octavia for your encouraging post. About the forgetting to pick up the child (luckily he is a 13-year old and has a cell phone, so it could have been far more horrifying), and also your comments relating to the "use disorder", as we shall call it. :-) I'm intrigued by the "glimpsing" techn...

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My son shoved a mostly eaten popsicle into my mouth, twice. So I counted that as half a popsicle

Love it!

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Glad you are settling in to your new place.
And always glad to see you here on the forums.

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Tex - your post made me laugh! That is great! Liveitup - thanks! We actually had a really nice time and it was more stress-relieving than I'd expected. We had really good conversation. It was one of our few "couple friends" and we've been friends for many years now. I am probably more myself with th...

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As I read your post, I kept thinking how your struggle with food is similar to my struggle with alcohol. I'm starting to think that many people on NoS (or any diet, for that matter) really do have food addictions. For some (amazingingly lucky) reason, I do not have that struggle. Don't get me wrong,...

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At the beginning everyone feels that panic about needing to load up the plate so they don't starve between meals (if they've been a big snacker, that is, which most of us were). Load up your plates and don't worry about what's on the plate yet. That's a different habit, a different thing. You don't ...

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Ha! Pan fried pork steaks. Gas bomb! Noted to beward.

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Nice going!

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Friday, April 26 121.8 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: tortilla chips w/guacamole D: dinner with friends - homemade pizza Drinking Failed yesterday, back on the wagon today - eeks, wine at friends. Not sure why I didn't think there would be wine and of course I didn't turn it down. :? I'm kind of in a ro...

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Hi Mandy, I tried to write a couple different responses, but suffice to say I don't have experience, knowledge, or wisdom to give your situation a good reply. I just want you to know I care about you, and I'm sorry that you have to wend your way on this complicated path. That said, I know you will f...

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Hi Milly! Nice to see you on the boards!

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soup for breakfast. That is pretty cool!

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Isn't it crazy how we (teachers) are understandable exhausted a) at the beginning of break; b) the entire first week back; c) from the halfway point to the end....... yeah. so. teaching is exhausting.

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Tomorrow is always a fresh day.

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I have the mindset of since I already messed up, might as well not care for the rest of the day. Ah, the dreaded WTH effect! Your post made me realize that I've rarely taken a "Success" or "Failure" approach to NoS. I guess it's a mod I've used from the beginning without discussing it much. For me,...

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Hi Margot - just realized I hadn't heard from you in quite awhile! Hope all is well.

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Thank you for the support, liveitup. I really do appreciate it. Thursday, April 25 122.0 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogurt w/berries D: date night: had a delicious steak taco salad with a chipotle ranch dressing. It was awesome. Drinking Abs Day. Made it yesterday but had a (planned) bowl of ice cre...

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Chanda - I am just loving those meditations too! Last night Creator and I listened together and I fell asleep at the end, just as Gandalf was leaving. :-) Wednesday, April 24 122.4 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: (will be) yogurt w/berries D: (will be) probably junk - I'm going to CPR training and they h...

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Definitely "at least you got out there". I'm firmly in the camp that simply moving is what it's all about.

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Tuesday, April 23 122.4 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogurt w/berries D: (will be) pork chops & salad + glass of milk Drinking Abs Day Longer Stretch I've been adding a glass of milk after dinner as a stand-in for my wine. Not quite the same, har har, but it's helping. Moving Walk/Jog w/HappyHerder R...

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Remember you could get a latte or something to tide you over.

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Jen - so true about the sleep. I have recently been really studying the damage that lack of sleep causes us.....literally every aspect of health. I hope you can get more rest!!!

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Sometimes I have a whole month of fails in my alcohol moderation category.

and this forum kindly does not shame me about it.

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I love your mini-fail-run. Last fall when HappyHerder was recovering from his illness, I started my walk/jog idea - just to totally go at his pace. And I've got to say, I love that form of exercise. It is so natural for the body, whereas running without stopping seems kind of stressful for me. :mrgr...

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Hi Chanda - You know how some people need a LOT of variety in their diet? They enjoy experimenting with cooking and buying new ingredients? I'm not that person, so I can pretty much eat the same stuff every day. So, part of my answer to you is that I found by meal-planning I have a "circuit" of meal...

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Monday, April 22 123.4 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogurt w/berries D: tuna melt - broil + glass of milk Drinking Abs Day #3 - working on a longer stretch this week. Moving walk/jog w/HappyHerder PersonalLearning Peter Attia The Drive - been listening to three segments on Sleep -- all are phenomenal...

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OK, looking forward to hearing more from you when you are ready. And I will be very interested to hear if you find a good counselor for these issues - we will all learn from you.

And pretty sweet that your mom was there for you when you needed, despite how long it took for her to actually do it.

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Nettee -- I like your signature.

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Welcome April!

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Sunday, April 21 Happy Easter! I do a clue-based scavenger hunt for each kid. I made Challenger's really hard this year. :-) He still flew through it. They are now happily chowing down on their baskets. Eating B: coffee w/milk, bacon & eggs L: I will finish my chocolate bar and licorice from yester...

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Welcome Amanda!

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Hey Chanda - I do the coffee thing in the afternoon sometimes too. It depends on how hungry I am, actually. If it's just a bit of boredom or temptation, coffee w/ a little milk works great. If I really am hungry, I have a cup of milk and savor each sip. And I get your visceral reaction to avoid rest...

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Linda - I know you'll come back when you are ready (I envision WonderWoman with her shield and awesome metal headband) - but I do miss you. "I ain't missing you at all tonight" - one of the best 80's songs, but we all know that guy was lying..... :-) I miss you. :-) John Waite - "missing you" https:...

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Hi Sharon!
I was just realizing I haven't seen you on the boards in a bit and wanted to say hi. Hope your spring is still going well!

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