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Linda - I feel so much more PRODUCTIVE when I don't drink. I am tentatively optimistic that the pleasure of how much better I'm feeling without alcohol will become a motivator for moderation. Simmstone just talked about pleasure as a moderator for NoS over on his thread. But generally, as you know, ...

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Hi Merry! Welcome back and so glad to see you posting!

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Breaking a fast can be the trickiest part, from what I've read! Good luck having a very smooth series of N Days before we hit the weekend.

Brie, yum.

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It turns out that pleasure (as Reinhard noted in the No S book) has been the best motivator that I’ve encountered for sticking to No S.

Great point.

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Octavia - I've been walking lots more since I became addicted to podcasts, lol. Now I look forward to going on a walk so that I can listen. At home, things are way too chaotic to try that.

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Can you remind me when your normal bedtime is?
And can you also remind me why you can't just eat normal-sized meals at regular intervals, e.g. 9am, 2pm, 7pm?
I'm sure it's your schedule, but I don't remember the conflict.

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Monday, February 18 122.2 Eating B: coffee w/milk got a little hungry today! Forgot to pack the eggs & yogurt for work (since it was technically a holiday, I guess I just had a brain blip). Anyway, was quite hungry when I got home at 2pm. L: (late lunch) yogurt w/berries D: ham and corn on a big sa...

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I do think that having 30 minutes of exercise as a short term goal is worthwhile. That’s one area where Reinhard and I disagree. Sharon - you and Reinhard don't actually disagree on this AT ALL. His 14 minutes (Shovelglove) is designed as his alternative to weight-lifting. His Urban Ranger was that...

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That is so cool about your mom. And it sounds like you have sisters? Wonderful! I have 2 and there is a secuirty in knowing they would do anything for me if I truly were in trouble. My brother too, actually. Have you tested your blood sugar? The "food hangover" was an early sign of prediabetes for m...

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Put out clothes for the next day every evening This one is my favorite! :lol: I have developed a "thing" for the power that implementing the easiest habit is for changing our lives. Although I think my changing into yoga clothes is easier than your laying out work clothes the night before. If I'm i...

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Well, your mum sounds quite fit herself!!! How old is she?

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In the end No S has given my sanity back, I plan my meals the night before then I just cook and eat. No more food thoughts beyond "What am I making and how is it done?" and "That was delicious!"

Love this quote!

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You should go to culinary school or something! You seem to just love cooking!

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Lots of good thoughts here. I can tell that just by putting these things down in your thread you are finding your way to something that will work for you. These things take time, as you know, but as you write you are actually making some changes to your relationship with food. For me, eating pretty ...

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I am very sensitive to smells! yesterday evening I smelled an orange being peeled and it was awesome.

Even reading about this makes me smell an orange.

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Hi Clarinetgal! Congrats on your late-night successes! I seem to remember that the late-night eating has ALWAYS been the toughest part of moderate eating for you. My husband also has struggled with this. If he eats a big enough dinner he seems to do better, and the other trick for him is not having ...

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They were very apologetic and offered us $100 of our next meal. :shock: :shock: Wow! That is amazing! But shes been talking to one of her teachers about it and realizes the grass is always greener. The teacher was also telling her how colleges like getting kids from her school because of their uniq...

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Sunday, February 17 S Day! 122.6 Eating B: coffee w/milk, 2 eggs L: burger w/guac, tomato, onion, bacon, cheese dessert: vanilla ice cream Drinking Abs Day Moving I will maybe have time to go on a walk before kiddo's basketball tournament, but I am so swamped with work stuff this weekend. Just not ...

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Saturday, February 16 S Day! 123.4 Tex - Grain Brain is really quite an interesting read! I'm a little surprised I hadn't learned more by this point about the very strong link between elevated blood sugar and its risk of cognitive decline/dementia. I have heard of the "other" Feinman but haven't re...

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Worldwide Greenhouse Emissions from the EPA data: https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data#Sector 76% - all other sectors (electricity/heat, transportation, industry, etc) 24% - ALL agriculture (plants & animals & forestry - animal agriculture #'s were harder to find but...

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lpearlmom wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 pm
I made a lot of mayo by hand (w/ a whisk) in culinary school. The most important thing is to pour the oil in VERY slowly and gradually especially in the beginning. Otherwise itll break. GL!

omg I'd be hopeless. I always tend to dump things in as quick as possible. My patience sucks.

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Margot - so cool to hear you are fat-adapted and not hungry now. I am vicariously loving your journey.

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You are probably on your family date to the new vegan restaurant right now!! Kind of a belated Valentine's celebration, yes? I'm sure you'll have fun! Whoop-whoop about Rosebud's school! That girl is a rock star. Re: Sweetpea, yuck about the dealing with the friend/ex issue. That's like a teen's nig...

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I just need a break right now and I’m not going to get one...double guilt. Ah, Octavia, my heart goes out to you. Hugs. This too shall pass, but I sure hope it passes soon and you are able to get some much-needed you-time. If at possible can you cancel any weekend commitments? Just say you're sick ...

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Hi KCCC!!!! so wonderful to see you posting. I love this forum, and it's amazing when the old-timers pop back in and share with the rest of us. Thank you so much!

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Of course one thing is what you read and another how you live, because like Linda said, it's a good thing when this stuff percolates naturally in your life, you don't wanna push it too hard and become an orthorexic monster. Still, information is power. Ha! Right! I totally agree! I enjoy reading up...

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Hi Margot - Yes, I'm very familiar with Weston Price! I particularly enjoyed reading "Nourishing Traditions" from cover to cover at some point. Not that I ever actually make bone broth...... but I did love the book. The Auto in my head is quite different than the Auto in actual action. :lol: :mrgree...

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I am very glad I have this space to clarify my thoughts. Me too! Both for my own self and because I like hearing other people's clarifying thoughts! I will be concentrating on taking my own advice - keeping relaxed about my eating, eating plenty but not too much at meal times, and trying for weight...

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Happy Valentine's Day! I think lots of us will be having chocolate available for the next few days!

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Happy Valentine's Day! Sounds like you had a really great day all around.

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Happy Valentine's Day! So glad you and hubby are going on a nice date! I had to look up "Irish potato candies". I'd never heard of them! Maybe they are a particular East Coast thing? Oh, and I meant to tell that I find it impressive that you make your own dressing with avocado oil! I am slightly tem...

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Linda - LOL about the FB post!!! And I'm a native Northwesterner but I still am annoyed. My favorite NW snows are when it comes down gloriously for one day and then melts ENTIRELY the next day. Obviously, that is NOT what we've had. :-) But this too shall pass! And it has been interesting, that's fo...

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nice data collection!

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So happy for you Tex!

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I don't get emails anymore either. I guess I'm fine with it, because I'm on here every day anyway.

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Carry on!

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Margot - olive oil is 75% monounsaturated and also didn't mess with cell membranes like the polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) did. Sat fat was the kindest to the membranes, though. Olive oil & vinegar on a salad are the way to go! Actually, I'll either use that or I just add meat and guacamole to ...

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Oops, sorry Margot and Octavia! I guess the new format has been making me get mixed up sometimes about who is posting. I've caught myself making that mistake on other entries too.

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I also feel freer to experiment with how I can translate "one plate" into "reasonable meal portion size" in a way that doesn't require too much thought or willpower but that I can live with in the long term. Yes - long-term sustainability is like hitting the jackpot! :-) One thing the NoS structure...

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Margot - good luck with the fasting thing! I envision myself doing this at some point (for health purposes, as you said). Autophagy has become a household word. :-) I will be very interested in your updates!! I got through a 4 day fast about 10 years ago. It was not easy to be doing that while still...

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margot17 wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:23 am
and so I thought: fantastic, well that is so typical, by the time I manage to be thin again it will actually be recommended that I gain weight.

oh my gosh you are hilarious Margot. Love having you on this forum.

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Margot - I do really love the snow; I really think it's the schedule disruptions that have gotten to me. I'm so "automated" in my daily routines. If I lived in a place with snow 1/2 the year, I'd have me a fine set or two of Telemark skis (and this new thing called Altai skis). Sharon - knee is much...

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Picture perfect!

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You know, Sharon, you can just call me Auto.

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Hi Octavia - Hmmm, I'm not sure exactly how to answer your question about my S Days S's..... I always track my meals (and like we discussed I plan my meals tentatively) and I think I end up virtual plating a lot on S Days, so what you see as "one meal" might actually have actually been sort of a gra...

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Sick Days are "S" Days!

Hope you feel better soon and are able to rest.

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Tuesday, Feb. 12 123.0 Eating B: coffee w/milk, will have eggs & ground beef w/onions (leftover from last night) when I get hungry L: yogurt w/berries D: spontaneous date night! Big burger w/a side of brussel sprouts Drinking S Day - throwing in the towel on this until we get back to work after thi...

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I think maybe I've made this joke before but it is kind of funny that your "dessert" is my "lunch". :lol: So sorry to hear about Sweetpea. The stuff I wrote in my journal as a teenager gives me chills just remembering, so hopefully she is just processing adolescence with the inevitable times of agon...

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Boy do I know that feeling. We've had crazy snow here and I am so out of my routine!
It makes normal boundaries harder than normal.....ya know?

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Thanks guys. Knee is feeling decidedly more stable today - phew. Monday, February 11 124.6 Eating B: coffee w/milk, eggs & leftover beef L: yogurt w/berries D: beef salad bowl (cheese & bean quesadillas for kids) dealing with lots of cravings. :cry: Drinking Abs Day - Total fail. My god, I throw in ...

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Hi Octavia - lots of great thoughts in here. Thank you so much for posting your experiences, and especially your reflections on how things are going and strategies for moving forward. I think - that when your desire to avoid the icky feeling of an overdone weekend is GREATER than the desire for the ...

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Thanks Soprano. Knee still feeling weird and a bit unstable. I hope I didn't damage the meniscus too badly. Not swollen and I can walk again today, but no squatting. I am grateful that walking is generally not painful, although yesterday there were a couple of uphill segments that caused sort of a r...

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A huge garden, ducks and quails? Yeah, that'd make me happy too!

Sounds like you can crochet, knit, and sew? Impressive!

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I had a weird night last night. I had decided (and even announced to my husband) that I was going to have a planned fail - ice cream & more wine. Then, somehow the desire receded and I realized I was just fine not indulging. It's just been a weird week - 3 snow days and lots of schedule chaos and un...

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I often like the fact that since my meal quantities are limited, I appreciate what I have more. And I like that I appreciate my sweets more because they're a special treat, not a regular part of every day. This is so great! Also, so happy you got out for another walk during the day. I'm a little je...

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Margot - I bought 3 pairs of leg warmers and use them as part of my "after work" outfit that encourages me to move more. I feel totally cool when I wear them . :lol: I am doing a "mobility" program and every day part of it requires shoulder swings (which have actually helped my stiff shoulders immen...

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A very satisfying day!

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Hi Bright Angel! Thanks for stopping by. It's fun that you actually can STILL get something out of re-reading Reinhard's small, helpful book! So many little nuggets of common sense in there and we can go back to it for inspiration from time to time. I still remember randomly finding it in the bookst...

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So many greens! And it's like a building stream of NoS in your area! So neat that the ideas are spreading.

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Good job on choosing tea!

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Hi Clarinetgal! So happy to see you posting today! Lots of snow, yes?

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Tracker - I'm sorry that at only 21 you have had to struggle so much with what to eat. :cry: When I was your age, I ate whatever I wanted and never really worried about nutrition at all. I just... ate, ya know? But NoS is such a reasonable place for you to find balance for the coming years. Eschano ...

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Whatever you decide, you've made so much progress. You are an inspiration to the rest of us, not only because of your persistence, but your willingness to try new things (which is funny in a way because you say you don't like change!!) You will find your next path, whether it's just a little detour ...

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I think doing some regular indoor movements, stretches, etc. would be a good starting exercise.

And, as you said, once your knees feel a bit better nothing really beats walking for easy, available, cheap, and gentle.

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Sounds pretty fancy to have an intern!

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Bright Angel! Yay to see you stopping by!

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As I was reading your (very interesting) post, I realized that I virtual plate regularly, zero guilt. I guess because the entirety of the meal was planned out, and I generally eat the same stuff, so I know how much I need. Sometimes I overdo it, but most of the time I don't, and we are learning and ...

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Linda - I also stopped my "moderation management" postings. Too much to post in both places, and as you said, this is my preferred medium.

To both of you - I hope that you soon feel more OK with our glitzy, but (hopefully) spamless forum.

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Tinabi (still needing to work out your name, haha) - I seem to be eating fewer and fewer processed things all the time. It's its own kind of reward system; I can see how it can be addicting even! They even have a name for people that get an eating disorder around it - orthorexia Yikes! Hope I don't ...

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The little drops can definitely put a smile on one's face! I know you put a smile on mine while describing your post-swim-workout acrobatics to get dressed and deal with the cold!

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(I'll use OCHL like in candles or bars in financial charting, that is open close high low) The difficult part was that once I realized that I was not going to go the SLD route I also realized that it is likely to take a really long time for me to get back in shape. I decided to track also the amoun...

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Drinking-6/16 sober days this month. Had a tiny sip of wine but could tell it was going to bother me so stopped. T.V.— I’m up to no tv before 11am. I know doesnt seem like much of an accomplishment but i tend to have the tv on in the mornings while i clean & stuff. One exception is i can have it on...

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Hi Octavia! I'm sorry to hear that your Class-A/B treat idea didn't pan out quite liked you had hoped, but at least it WAS S Days. :-) And now you have a bit more data to analyze! :mrgreen: I find it humorous that the bulletin upgrade reveals all of us for the toddlers we are - either those that dem...

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Margot, if you ARE hungry between meals in these early weeks, it's totally OK to have a glass of milk, or tea, or coffee to get you through. Just want to put that out there in case it comes up. I've also toyed with the idea of fasting for health purposes (joints being my biggest thing). But I am sor...

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And I can put in a plug for magnesium supplements. I think Linda also uses them and says they help her sleep.

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Oh, man. Sorry Reinhard.

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Wednesday, February 6 123.4 Eating B: coffee w/milk, (will be) salted scrambled eggs when I get hungry L: yogurt w/berries afternoon: salt supplement (AKA pickle!) followed by one more cup of milky coffee D: Sexy made baked salmon for us. I salted it, then had it on a giant salad before having 2 gla...

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Ivor Cummins has the sweetest irish accent, I could listen to him talk for hours. Margot! I thought maybe you had posted my reply FOR me! That is exactly what I would have said about him, too! :-) I did 23 and me and I am 100% Northern European, 70% UK (and family geneaology puts me one foot in Ire...

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I really love how you have formed a habit of walking your daughter's dog.

And Iceland - oh, my that sounds lovely! Congrats on 50 years! That is amazing!

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That can be discouraging when the meals we've planned don't end up working out and/or are not satisfying.

I hope you feel better tomorrow.

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We each have to find our own way, but No S is the perfect scaffolding for nearly everyone. Yes! I have seen SO MANY people on these forums use NoS as the anchor point that launches them to their Happy Place. I think NoS is so empowering, and that confidence (and the habits) helps us reach a tipping...

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Linda, we are all having so much fun with this snow! Lots of sledding by the kids. Both of them got mildly frostbit yesterday, I'd say. :roll: And school cancelled AGAIN today! Wow! Not expecting that! My students had a test planned. Lucky ducks! :lol: Tuesday, February 5 124.4 Eating B: coffee w/mi...

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Dalia - I think I typically deal with the "nothing interesting to say about food" by just rambling about pretty much every other area of my life.

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Hi gratefuldeb!
So neat to see a post by you! One of the originals!

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So many late nights for you! How many evenings a week do you typically have to work?

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I know you have suffered for ages from reflux and have tried so many things. But I just stumbled upon something that works for me, and I can't remember if I told you about it. Granted, my heartburn is very occasional (hello wine + starch), so I just mention this just IN CASE you haven't tried this: ...

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Don't those mid-day walks feel so great? Very sorry about the pain you are feeling as you empathize with the woman who lost her husband. Those things are so scary as we (as humans) naturally imagine ourselves in that same awful situation. However, as encouragement, remember that humans are resilient...

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I am laughing about the nose clip. :-) I might just need to wear one in the car while bringing my 13 year old home from basketball. He insists on removing his shoes and the smell is AWFUL. I do not eat a whole apple at one meal, but I occasionally have a couple slices, especially at the end of the m...

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What kind of cake?

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Do you think the place you're thinking of could be Wenatchee, WA? Sounds kind of like it, and they love their apples there!

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Great job with the swimming! I always admire swimmers - I think those are the hardest workouts!

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Sounds like a wonderful day!

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Hi TexArk!! I have had a similar experience as you. Eating more delicious and nutritious food than ever, and effortlessly (finally) lost weight. Luckily NoS habits were also effortless by the time I changed what was on the plate. Everybody is different, but my metabolism (and yours, I think) are bot...

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This is a tiny hijack - sorry Tracker (and you do know I'll have to call you that, haha) -, but I liked the way ladybird said that she thinks of S Days as different even though she generally likes to just eat 3 meals even on those days. I guess I do the same, in that I try to plan out loosely my S D...

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Oh, man - I hope the forum starts working better for you soon.

Good thought to use the pool for your hip!

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I hope you have a marvelous week!

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Some of the forum is a little different to get used to, but I'm just so relieved that the forum survived this storm of spam that it swamps out any temporary confusion. That camp for the kids sounds pretty awesome! So glad to hear the reflux is better. Hilarious to hear that "not talking about other ...

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Sunday evenings are the worst for me, too. In fact, that's why I allow Sunday as one of my alcohol days.

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As one of those people that always posts my meals (even on S days!), I would say that at this point I use it as much as a planning tool than anything else. I can't TELL you how many times I've listed my meal plans for the day, only to realize something will make a particular meal tricky to stick to ...

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I think weighing every day is actually a nice habit to develop, as long as we can detach from the emotions of it and just use the data to consider how foods affect us over time. Or, in the case of some S Days, how we can gain a couple pounds in one day and be certain that we couldn't have put on 2 p...

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