Everyday Systems

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Love your numbers-head. :-) I too like to do these reflections and track. And I just posted a vent on poor WhosonFirst's thread saying something to the effect of not weighing for many = unwilling to stop overeating, same as your denial thing. Totally true for me. So here's to a year of maintenance a...

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Welcome to 2019, r.jean! Your goals sound reasonable and I especially like the one about having to come on the boards once a month at least. :-) I realize that I unconsciously limit my S's on S Days now. Too many weekends realizing that my short body can't splurge without gaining weight easily + see...

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Good luck on mastering Blackbird! Love that song! And hopefully your wife and you can start enjoying walking together - that would be a wonderful start to 2019! Re: scales - I weigh myself every day to keep myself honest. It is merely a number, just one of many that I track. I also track blood gluco...

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Welcome to 2019! I'd encourage you to start a check-in thread, if journaling is something you enjoy. It helps keep me on track.

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Yes! Today is an S Day, no doubt about it.

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Are you married now? How is your fiance?
I hope 2019 is full of productivity and rewarding habit-building for you!

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Bwahahaha you guys - pistol squats! Creator and I were just fooling around doing them and we had to hang on to a beam for balance. But still -- just fooling around can be exercise, apparently. :-) Reflection on 2018: Last December, I really kicked it into a higher gear with my diet. I decided I was ...

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Good luck tomorrow!

When you put "M&Ms" I immediately had a craving and decided I'd better not buy those tomorrow.

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I would consider the following options in this scenario: 1) "pack" my breakfast and eat it gradually - it's a form of virtual plating, I suppose, but I do have to do this at work once in a while. Then, I could have lunch at the typical noon. 2) drink milky coffee at 5am and then eat breakfast at 10a...

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I agree with Soprano about meal composition affecting how many hours before I'm hungry again. Also, it changes my ability to listen to my internal cues. For example, if I eat a high-fat, reasonably high protein yogurt for lunch, I can stop when I "feel" full, and I don't get hungry for a predictable...

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I believe that one of the most powerful things about NoS, and the reason that it stays part of my life philosophy after 5 years, is that EVEN when we couldn't care less about eating a so-called "healthy" food (whatever we deem that to be), the sane (and eventually HABITUAL) boundaries of NoS keep us...

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Great post, Imogen! You had me alternatively laughing and then gasping! Glad your mom and N are OK. I TOTALLY relate about the walking. It is my very best anti-depressant. And burning calories is exactly ZERO motivation for my walks. However, being able to move without pain definitely motivates me. ...

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Imogen - I super love my headphones too! :-) I've been listening to books and DietDoctor podcasts in the morning, and I'm recovering my own intellectual pursuit joy. :-) That said, um, when my kids were little like yours, that was NOT happening, haha. I couldn't even go on a walk without having to b...

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Yay for return to moderation! My day has been a proper N Day as well! And I'm also shocked!

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Great update - so happy for your victory over bingeing!

Also, I may end up joining you with the "No Spirits". I'm not ready to do it yet but serious pondering is occurring in this stubborn, rebellious noggin' of mine.

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Congrats on the "put away the cookie bag until S Day".

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This has been a hard week for moderation!

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Friday, Dec. 28th 127.9 (wow, I must be dehydrated because I was expecting a much higher number. maybe it will hit tomorrow once I've rehydrated after traveling.) Fasting Blood Glucose: 84 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: grilled burgers w/ cheese, bacon, guacamole, onion, tomato D: yogurt and berries for...

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Welcome!
Your stair-climbing challenges sound fun. And I am huge fan/supporter of keeping a regular journal. This is as good a place as any.

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OK, I'm home!!! Thanks again to all that supported me when I had my alcohol-break-down. I'm still sorting through things and trying to consider good ways to moderate without over-restricting and causing rebellion. Thursday - Dec. 27th B: bacon & eggs, coffee w/milk during drive: diet coke L: 1 chick...

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Sorry to be late to the vent party but it seems as though the rest of the tribe was all over it. Nicely done, ladies. :-) I think Soprano's sister and Linda's sister should hang out. :twisted: This is a super hard time of year for any restriction, I think that's what lots of us are finding. Whether ...

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I know this is Soprano's thread, but the Octavia "pastry key" story had me laugh out loud! Ugh about the sister stuff. It sounds like you, very wisely, understand that her reaction is all about her, really, and not about you. My eating has been breaking records this week and I'm sort of stumbling my...

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Hi Sharon - I only lost about a pound a month my first year on NoS. The main thing for me was that it stopped my upward trend of the previous years. The following parameters make Vanilla NoS trickier (not in any particular order, and I don't know which all may apply to you): older, female, shorter, ...

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Welcome!

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I'm home from my trip and catching up on other threads -- thank you SO very much for the feedback, encouragement, and empathy on my thread. YES! Leave a testimonial! I did, after one year, and I was only down maybe 8 or 10 pounds if I remember correctly. I felt very much like I had earned my spot ju...

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Wed B: Coffee with milk, 2 breakfast rolls, eggs & bacon L: Sugar cookie, ham & scalloped potatoes Movie popcorn & diet coke D: chicken tortilla casserole & raspberry jello Dessert: sugar cookies 4 glasses of wine! Last night - we lived it up pretty good. My sister in law & I had a great time chatti...

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Thank you Sharon and Octavia. Sharon - so many similarities between these pseudo-self-care overindulges, aren't there? Im going to reread your post and the others when i get home to my laptop tomorrow. Me and my phone aren't good at long typing. I feel like I'll have lots to think about. Christmas d...

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Christmas Eve 2018! B: bacon & eggs, coffee w/milk L: salami, cheese & a few potato chips D: steak, salad, French fries & mushrooms 3 glasses of wine Trigger for glass 3: returned to in laws from another relatives & glasses were poured while adults filled stockings. I may not finish this glass actua...

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Thank you Octavia & Soprano. Your messages were so encouraging - I believe there are nuggets in both of your posts i will be using to work through this in the weeks to come. Im at my in laws with just my phone so i can't type much, but suffice to say i appreciate more than words can say...... Sun - ...

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Thanks ladybird. I hope I don't freak out too many people with my post. But I've always been a fan of transparency, even when it is uncomfortable and cringe-worthy. And yes - the kid example is the most powerful motivator in my contemplations. But still not powerful enough. I need to dig deeper and ...

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Saturday, Dec. 22 S Day! 127.8 Eating B: coffee w/milk, bacon & eggs L: tortilla chips & guacamole dessert: piece of leftover Costco birthday cake D: tortilla chips, cheese, refried beans, guacamole, sour cream Alcohol: 2 glasses of wine Moving nothing Spending Local grocery - refried beans, pasture...

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Yay for retirement! You've waited so long for this! Good for you to skip the morning coffee. I admire that but in no shape or form am I ready for that sacrifice. :-) And the money thing - it doesn't surprise me that you have saved well and diligently - you are so frugal instinctively. It seems to co...

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Life is a bumpy journey. I too often wonder about lessons I wish I had learned when I was younger, but I suppose that is not a good use of my time, haha! I'm happy for you, though, and I really relate. I think I am also a bit better as an abstainer, but I do make sugar exceptions (e.g. I had a piece...

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I just want to add the encouragement that it will feel GREAT and EMPOWERING as you get practiced at your contented "no thank you". It becomes easier over time, and now it's totally easy/no stress for me at all. But I do remember in the early years of trying to do this, I would have to tell myself (i...

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Friday, Dec. 21 127.5 Eating B: coffee w/milk, eggs & bacon L: yogurt w/berries, 1/2 portion. I'm trying this because I think it might be giving me heartburn (maybe because of its high fat content?). Then had tortilla chips with cheese & guacamole. D: chicken caesar salad from Costco, pizza for the ...

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Great story!

My thread is only about .... 20% NoS? And who says it has to be anymore than that?

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I know this is a teensy bit controversial, but I say face your fears and get on that silly scale. It's just a scale - it can't bite us.

Once you know where you stand (haha get it - stand?) you can make realistic plans.

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Thanks ladybird. :-) Thursday, December 20th (tomorrow is Challenger12's birthday! He will become Challenger13!) 127.2 Fasting Blood Glucose: 83 8) Eating B: coffee w/milk, blonde flat latte, 2 eggs L: yogurt w/berries D: taco salad - beef, onions, tomato?, guacamole, cheese Creator has basketball 5...

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Wednesday, Dec. 19 127.2/BMI 23.3 (honestly, I'm thinking that I've shrunk and I need to reevaluate my weight at 5'1'' - but oh well, using the same height (5'2'') gives a valuable reference point at least) Fasting Blood Glucose: 91 (yep, finally spent $75 and bought more strips yesterday) Morning B...

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You started a blog! You rock! I'm going to go check it out ASAP. Update - you are beautiful!

And lol about Sweetpea "deep into the madness". That is actually kind of funny. Ah, teenage years.

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Your post is a great reminder to me about my upcoming visit (Sunday - Thursday) at my in-laws. I need to make some clear plans ahead about boundaries, S Days, etc.

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Thanks Octavia. :-) LoL, I think all of us have to get a lot done this time of year, but the rest of you don't seem to have the obsessive desire to track it all like I do. One of my joys is this thread. Tuesday, December 18 130.0 Eating B: coffee w/milk, scrambled eggs & bacon L: latte D: salmon bur...

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Victory for reading! Creator and I read two chapters of Gregor. And now I am determined to stay in the saddle with it. Monday, Dec. 17 128.3 Eating B: coffee w/milk, maybe an egg? L: Mexican restaurant. I looked at the menu and think I should order either the guacamole fresco salad or the carne asad...

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Good job ladybird!! Those weeks with so many social activities are very challenging! They require us to fatigue our willpower muscles, so I do hope that you enjoyed your weekend S Days for real so that you are able to tackle this week.

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I am here not only to confess and look for words of encouragement - both of which are important to me - but to remind myself that success is rarely linear. Non-perfection happens. Poor choices happen. The key is to recognize this and get back to work. I will have a better day tomorrow. All good phr...

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Sunday, Dec. 16 S Day Eating B: coffee w/milk, 1 egg, 2 bacon L: grilled burgers w/ friends and tortilla chips w/guacamole D: cheese dip & tortilla chips dessert: ice cream Moving Creator9 and I finally finished all the Christmas decorating this morning + lots and lots of cleaning continues. The ups...

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Hey there minimizer!

Looks like you are doing well and I'm so delighted to see you on the boards!

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Hi Octavia! Thanks for posting your phases of NoS. Somehow I only just saw it today, but very much enjoyed reading it.

And very sorry about - the three colds and the crazy schedule (I totally empathize)!

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Hi There Whosonfirst! Glad to hear you have a dog and are getting to walk more! I have an Australian Shepherd, and oh my - things are not good when we miss a day. Indeed, thanks to my dog I pretty much jog part of my morning walk, lol. So sorry to hear about the canceled trip. That's sad! :-( Thanks...

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I KNOW Octavia - it's true that the essentials of living take up most of my time. There has been an INVERSE relationship between the amount of time I spend menu planning & cooking with the amount of time I spend cleaning. And I ALSO relate to the "stinkin' thinkin'", although I stubbornly think I'm ...

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Thursday, Dec. 13th 127.5 Eating B: coffee w/milk, 2 eggs L: at a restaurant w/ friends - I looked at the menu and plan on getting the bacon, lettuce, tomato, avocado and feta salad and asking for extra feta - update - I got the lamb burger after all. It was good but not outstanding. D: I am not hun...

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Thanks Soprano. :-) Wednesday, Dec. 12th 127.2 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogurt & berries update - sheesh I am dying of hunger today. Not sure why. Guess I rapidly got used to having eggs for breakfast!!!! Think I'll survive by getting a latte this afternoon. D: (will probably be) date night, and i...

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Tuesday, Dec. 11 127.9 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogurt w/berries D: pork chop w/sour cream, carmelized onions & green salad & a piece of toast Moving walk/jog w/HappyHerder. Then I did Elements Week 2 Day 3! Yay for me! I did Bear, I did Monkey, I did Frogger! :-) My trick was to do it at work in ...

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This week I am focusing on eating healthier meals, exercising, and cutting back on the wine. If I could develop a habit of these 3 things, I will start dropping weight for sure. LOL those are three challenging things, in my book! It has been hugely difficult for me to habituate healthier meals, exe...

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your food sounds good!
Hope the workout went well!

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Good luck with December!

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Sounds exciting, but change can be stressful!

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The day in Seattle was great, Tess - thanks for the well wishes! Monday, Dec. 10th 129.2 Eating B: coffee w/milk, 2 eggs & bacon L: yogurt w/berries D: (will be) tilapia and salad Moving walk/jog w/ HappyHerder2. Elements later! Spending bought a drip coffee Reading will I? will I? Challenger finish...

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Got it, Linda.

I'm scared of our forum. It's been taken over by Zombies. Do you think they can see me in here? I feel like they want to eat my brains.

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Your Hanukkah family-time sounds just wonderful. So happy that you all had a quiet and warm bonding time. That's so special. And your paragraph about Sweetpea just about gave me a heart attack! I had a nightmare last night about finding out Challenger was having sex way too young, so when I read you...

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Thanks Linda! The day went really well and it was great to see my sister and the little one. Portland has an Underground Tour? I grew up in the Portland area. How can I have not heard about that? :shock: Will have to check it out! Sunday, Dec. 9th 128.3 Eating B: coffee w/milk, 2 fried eggs & 1 piec...

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eschano wrote: I am starting to feel beautiful again and happy and thatâ€™s how NoS stuck last time. If I use NoS like a diet in terms of deprivation and punishment it never works for me. If I think of it as part of my self-care something clicks.

YES! Absolutely! So wonderful, so perfect. Love this!!!

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Saturday, Dec 8 S Day! 126.8 Eating B: coffee/milk so far - probably bacon, eggs, maybe hashbrowns later L: I have two options - bring my yogurt and save $$, or eat at restaurant in Seattle with Creator. He and I are spending the day there with my sister and her granddaughter (they are passing throu...

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Thanks worth it! :-) Friday, Dec. 7th 127.5 Eating B: 2 eggs & bacon, coffee w/milk L: yogurt & berries D: (will be) uh..... turned out I brought home Papa Murphy's pizza. I got a regular one for kids and Sexy, and bought a special one for me (and Sexy would like it too) - thin crust, creamy garlic ...

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Thursday, December 6 126.2 Eating B: coffee w/milk, 2 eggs & bacon L: yogurt w/berries (finally have all my regular yogurt supply replenished) D: (will be) lasagne - finally? for the kids? Which means what should I have? I am really sick of salad. I want a burger. Hey - maybe I could make burgers if...

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Hope that Rosebud and Doc mend things soon (probably they already have by the time I type this!) And carpool issues - sheesh. It is super helpful to have a carpool, but it is one more thing to coordinate, too (we have one for Challenger's Basketball) And the weight trigger things - I get it. Good to...

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nice of you to say that, Tess, but I think the reason I have to have more "stated" goals each day (than the rest of you) is because I tend to drift into "read and reflect" mode and not get any actual stuff done, hehe. I like to live in the theoretical. Sometimes I need to have my feet on the ground....

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Tuesday, Dec. 4th 128.8 Eating B: coffee w/milk, 2 fried eggs and 2 pieces of bacon (starting a new thing to see if I don't get so hungry before dinner - also the nuts were giving me afternoon indigestion + they are high in oxalates, which is bad for my kidney stone risk). Also just trying to eat mo...

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jenji wrote: I also drank a fair amount of egg nog, some with rum, which is delicious and yet makes me feel disgusting.

Oh my gosh, so so true on both accounts.

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definitely TexArk is referring to Spam -- bunch of fake posts selling stuff. It makes it hard to even find real entries sometimes.

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Monday, Dec. 3 129.0 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogurt w/berries, broccoli, carrots & walnuts - suffered from mild abdominal cramps much of the afternoon. I'm thinking it was the broccoli and walnuts. Those walnuts were already bugging my gut a little, but the addition of the broccoli - not a good c...

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Sunday, Dec. 2 128.9 Eating B: coffee w/milk, bacon, eggs & a piece of toast L: salmon D: tortilla chips & guacamole dessert: vanilla ice cream dessert: 2 mini-snickers Moving Spontaneously took Happyherder on a long walk/jog in the woods. That kind of energy on an S Day is really new to me. I credi...

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Restaurants totally do that to our weight! I think it is the (typically) larger portion of starches + the (almost always) higher amounts of salt. I weigh every day. For me that works as a habit. I feel like like a once-a-month or something would catch me on a bloated day (like that Thai food!). Then...

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I totally think you're right on both counts - this weather!!! + we are already working our willpower muscles for 5 N Days (N could stand for "NO!!" instead of normal, haha)

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I'm in for a mostly Dry December accountability effort. Motto: My kids don't need to drink to have fun; why should I? 1- red because we have leftover wine & a party tonight - this is the same as Dry September, when on the 1st day of the month we were at a wedding. ;-) 2- Red (leftover wine from the ...

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Great to see you on the boards, r.jean!! Your story is inspiring, and I totally relate to your issue of poor eating habits while caring for others. I feel like this past 6 months I'm peeking up and out of the trench of the past 13 years of motherhood. Self-care pretty much disappeared during those y...

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LOL, I'm glad there are still people in the world that bake. I get annoyed with flour in my kitchen and then I feel sick from eating too many cookies/cookie dough.

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Good perspective on the raw veg munches vs. take-out. Definitely a victory in my book.

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I know! It has gotten much worse!
What will happen to our forum as time goes on? Entropy is upon us!
Should I print out my pages? Will we have to "move" to a new place on the internet? Like in Ralph Breaks the Internet?

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I feel like I missed a few posts this week, so just now seeing about Rosebud.
Happens in our house, too! But guess what -- my husband is the nicer one.

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Hurray for getting back in your routine! What a victory, considering how tough Halloween/Thanksgiving can be. I'm glad you're working to not consider yourself "bad" for having cream in your coffee during your fasts. We all have to find what works for us, and there is no one right way to eat. Everybo...

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Congratulations on finding your rhythm (that is a stinking hard work to spell!)! I too think there are some things I do best with (near) total abstention, sugar and grains being those for me too. For the most part, ice cream is the treat I prefer indulging in on S Days. Nothing else really feels wor...

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Linda - If I can just reign in my holiday spending and keep reminding myself that it's worth delaying gratification so that we can save for a family vacation. Oolala would probably tell me to repeat that to myself every day! Saturday, Dec. 1 127.8 Eating B: coffee w/milk, eggs, bacon & hashbrowns L:...

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Holding too much in can be tough, Dandelion! I feel physically ill sometimes at meetings in which I can't say anything but I completely disagree. Ergh. Friday, Nov. 30th 127.7 Eating B: coffee w/milk, latte on way to work (gift card!) L: yogurt w/berries, walnuts & carrots D: (will be) big tuna fish...

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I think those scenarios where we either slightly overeat or undereat (and then feel either overfull or starving) are great learning experiences for us to assess (just as you did) with calm curiosity (oolala's phrase). Our food journey is just part of a life journey. And everything that happens is an...

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Thanks guys! I've been shocked to pay attention to how often I am not totally honest - primarily to avoid things - conflict, hurt feelings, or long conversations. Thursday, November 29th 127.3 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogurt w/berries, walnuts & carrots D: salmon burger with guacamole, onion, chee...

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I'm sitting here doing very boring marking.

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Maybe have an nice milky latte to get you through?

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Haha Soprano and Linda! I know - it's super silly of us. I'm going to aim for 75% compliance and consider myself a beast if I accomplish it. One thing in our favor is that we don't go to many parties in general, even around the holidays. Wednesday, November 28th 127.3 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogu...

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Congrats on the pizza-avoidance!

And I say "boo!" on leftovers for lunch.

Oh, and surprised (pleasantly) that your farm share is still sending you stuff at the end of November!

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I drink coffee Angel! Yes!!! I just am not picky. 2 cups every day. Currently we use Kirkland Breakfast blend Light Roast coffee. Keurig. Before that we just used the regular kirkland coffee in a coffee maker.

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Tuesday, Nov 27th 127.9 Eating B: coffee w/milk L: yogurt w/berries D: beef bowl w/onions, guac, tomatoes, cheese (spaghetti for kids) Moving great walk/jog with HappyHerder2. Elements Week 1, Day 2 Spending no plans Reading No reading last night. Maybe tonight we can get back to Gregor after being ...

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Green Week here we come!

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Thanks for inspiring me to get some different kind of exercise into my life than just walk/jogging. After doing some research, I settled on (and paid for - yikes!!) a program called Elements from GMB. I'm hoping it will strengthen, stabilize, and stretch my joints so that I am less prone to injury a...

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maybe it's meant to be!! You can keep a check in thread here. How much weight do you have to lose? And how tall are you?

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Welcome bouncy tigger!

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Thank you Sharon and Ladybird. I'm 100% fine now. It was just a scary couple of hours. I think a combination of a massive adrenaline rush from my freaked-out self + my husband's administration of a very salty broth helped me recover. I felt kind of sick all day but I'm back to normal now. I think I'...

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ladybird30 wrote:
After 18 months of solid 3 meals a day and no bingeing, the memory of how I used to feel about my eating and weight fluctuations is starting to recede into the background, rather than being an everpresent preoccupation.

This is such a cool statement! That is just lovely.

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I'm glad that is over! Thank you for being so dedicated, but I'm sorry that it has to be so stressful!

Go GREEN! That should be someone's NoS signature, haha

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I'll put it another way: 85% success.

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