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Hey, jw, I took the Meyer's Briggs tests years ago, and I just looked at it again for fun. I am an ENTJ. And, no surprise, my husband is the exact opposite: ISFP.

too funny.

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Hi everybody. Chani, my 4 yr old goes to preschool 3 days a week for a couple hours. I use it as babysitting, and hope that he enjoys himself a little. :) I definitely don't do anything formal with him. My 8-yr old goes to an alternative school where he can take electives. He goes 3 hours on Mondays...

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Oh, so sorry about the stressful weekend, Anna!
Sounds like a good reason to indulge a wee bit.

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Holy Cow! I can't imagine someone doing that to you, jw! You are so gentle-natured. Maybe your calm demeanor just infuriated her all the more.

Sounds like you are letting it roll off your back (as you should!).
Sheesh.

Congrats on the calming S Days.

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I have definitely stopped buying treats as often, and when I do, I tend to buy smaller portions. For example, on S Days, I might let each person in our family pick out one small container of their favorite ice cream flavor. That way we eat them up before Monday, and get to have something really spec...

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Bump this up..... Seems like there are a couple good links to add recently.

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What a great post Linda! Eschano, I totally agree with Linda on this that just laying it out for your boyfriend is important. Sometimes we need to be ultra clear, especially if someone else has never struggled with your food issues. Good communication practice opportunity!

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Ok, I was a 1 (reformer), but just barely. I was tied for 5 (investigator), 6 (loyalist), and 7 (enthusiast). So, like eschano, the results don't really say much because I wasn't dominant in any type. Still, it's always fun to take those kinds of tests. :) I think the funniest result was that when m...

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OK, Chani mentioned this test: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/dis_sample_36.asp?discover#.UwGKo_ldWHc And I think it'd be fun for a bunch of us to take it and report. It's free, takes 10 minutes. And Reinhard, if you're reading, understand this is a highly scientific measurement of the type of pe...

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Chani, I looked up that personality test. I was a 1 too! But just barely; I was tied for 4, 5 and 6 (if I remember correctly). So I wasn't dominant in one type. However, I was CLEARLY not a 9. Then, I tested my husband and he was very dominantly a 9 (The peacemaker). Of course we had to laugh--oppos...

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Hi Linda--do tell, how was the hot air balloon ride?!

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Hope you S Days were sane! And if they weren't, so be it. I know you will ride the wave of your NoS journey. You have come a long way mentally and (I hope this doesn't sound sappy) I am so proud of you! This time really IS different for you!

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Hi Sinnie! You make me laugh! Anyway, enjoy your "week" of Vanilla! Ha ha.

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So glad you are feeling better, Chani! I'm sure you're grateful for every tummy-good day. My sister-in-law sent me a picture of her foster baby today. Adorable, adorable. I can't wait to meet the little one. They will be getting a second foster child in the summer (bringing their total to 8 kiddos)....

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Hi Herbsgirl! Sounds like you are enjoying your extra bites.

You have a cool plan for upping the intensity of your walks using weights--that's a great way to avoid having to work out longer.
Have a wonderful week.

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Thanks for the comments, everybody! It seems that the lack of sleep thing is a common struggle for many of us! I structure my day so I go to bed early enough, but unfortunately I have a hard time staying asleep all night. It's a new problem only since having kids (so about 8 years). 10 years ago I c...

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I couldn't resist adding on to this thread. I have now completed another 12 weeks. Actually, today starts Week 26. Committing to 12 more weeks of the delights of NoS. Down ~8 pounds in 6 months. That will take me to 36 weeks of NoSing. Hard to imagine that not so long ago I was someone that "needed"...

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Weighing daily is kind of a fun habit for me, too, Imogen. And rather than ruin my day, I have become used to my normal fluctuations, so a pound or two difference doesn't alarm me. I've also learned what kinds of foods cause me to retain water. I TOTALLY get you with the slow project. I am also work...

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Saturday, Week 25 S Day S Day S Day 133.6 NoSEating coffee with cream B: donut L: hot dog and a big glass of raw milk Note: The thread on the general board got me craving the delicious 5+% milkfat raw milk we can buy in my town. It's $12/gallon!!!! Seemed like a great craving to give in to. :) It is...

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Chani, I bet you are taking care of two babies right now?! Wow, I bet you are busy. If you are able to read this, I'm sending smiles your way!

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Congrats on green days!

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It all sounds delicious!

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Hi Catservant: Here is a link to a basic way to make yogurt: http://www.davidlebovitz.com/2013/05/homemade-yogurt-recipe/ The tricky parts are *waiting for the milk to cool down (takes a while to go from 180 F to 115 F) *Finding a way to keep it at 115 F for 8-12 hours. -- my oven actually holds at ...

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Thanks jw and Sweetness. Yes, my resistance is low, jw! Thanks for the peaceful thoughts. I try to plan my S Days at the beginning of the month. I had planned Feb 4th (husband's birthday) and Feb 17th (holiday), but earlier this week realized I was completely burnt out and needed less structure for ...

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Good advice from NoSnacker and 4islandgirls! I would second the concept that our bodies "rest up" awhile at a slightly lower plateau before beginning to let go of fat again. I think of it as our bodies taking note of how the different organs are feeling and making sure starvation isn't happening. I ...

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Cool, a plank challenge buddy! I'm with you on that one, CM!

I hold 40-seconds/day. I started out with 30-seconds for the first month or so.

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Go, Imogen! Sometimes disposing of sweets that were given to us feels as hard as it was for Bilbo to give up the Ring at the beginning of The Fellowship of the Ring.

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Hi CM,
Small goals are good goals. One thing at a time.
Have you read that book Hungry? I found it very enlightening about food addictions. It's a quick and riveting read.

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Thanks for the encouragement ladies. Ah, yes, this too shall pass. Friday, Week 25 S Day (Just need it) 134.2 NoSEating coffee with cream skipped breakfast L: pizza and diet coke D: McDonald's quarter pounder and fries NoSitting um, yeah, I've been sitting, trying to nap, actually. NoSpending $2.99 ...

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Your post is thought-provoking. I'm pondering....

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Hope dinner is delicious!

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welcome to moderate eating!

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I am at a low point willpower-wise. Thoughts of: buying lattes not cleaning house not wanting to get through homeschool stuff not wanting to read to kids as much wanting to let kids use electronics as a break for me I am tired. This is the second or third time I have experienced this since starting ...

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I'm taking an S Day today (Valentine's Day) and Monday (holiday).
I think I definitely need to decompress a little.

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Linda, I wonder why our weight loss is so variable...... it must fluctuate with our metabolism, which means it might have something to do with how stressed I've been lately. Lots of cortisol and adrenaline. On the other hand, maybe it's more simple calories in/calories out, in which case a) I'm walk...

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How's your kettlebell challenge going?

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Hi! Welcome back, glad to hear you are holding steady.

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I like what he says about still enjoying a burger, just not burgers all the time. Sometimes people say their tastes change and that they just don't like some food (such as burgers) at all any more. I think this post is just another example of finding moderation, rather than having foods be all or no...

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Most people that have ancestry from a culture that was fortunate enough to have milk from goats, or cows are genetically well-equipped to produce a decent amount of lactase. Historically, much of the dairy was at least partially fermented, so that reduced its lactose content anyway. So just a plug f...

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Eschano, thanks for digging up those posts by Reinhard and burgghermeisster. I think your post could be useful by many people on this forum.

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yay for getting to your pre-holiday weight!

And yay for walking to work.

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Oh, yes, I'm an addicted Prime member. That is what originally got me into this mess! It was way too easy to just click it and voila! I had just spent money painlessly (until the bill showed up at the end of the month!). So my NoSpending is really meant to reel in two spending areas: Amazon/kindle; ...

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Sorry, Sinnie, for your tough day.

I'm a BIG fan of the BIG cry!

You know, it really does release stress from your body--stress hormones come out in those tears. So go for it!

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Cool stuff! Sounds like you are going to have an awesome Valentine's Day Weekend!

And very wise (in my opinion) to take an S Day when you're feeling like you're so burnt out.

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Thursday, Week 25 N Day 132.8--I am actually worrying now that I am losing weight too fast this month and that it will be unsustainable--sheesh, I'm never content, am I?! :roll: NoSEating coffee with cream B: oatmeal L: beans and rice, mixed nuts, apple, clementine D: pizza NoSittingOnButt walked to...

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So glad you're enjoying your food, Tessy! Good food is one of life's many joyous sensations.

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Your post is a charming combination of self-hate and self-support. You went back and forth in your last two sentences. I am proud of you for saying, Ah well. mark it and move on! Also.....the food you described--much of it was just your dinner, right? That doesn't sound like much of a WTH effect. it...

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Just imagine all those treats in their underwear....

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Hi freegirl, I can't really answer your question, but I am sorry you're so frustrated with your non-compliance. I do have one suggestion: really sit down and analyze, as precisely as possible, WHY you failed big time repeatedly after one month of NoS. Some possibilities (although only you can truly ...

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Avoiding the -What the Hell- effect is key in long-term success. Good job to "self-arrest".

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Sometimes when the stress/pressure to perform is so high, it really turns off our natural excitement. Bummer that so much is riding on this project. Good luck getting it done...and getting some rest during the process.

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Good job!

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Wow, I bet your daughter is thrilled with that present!

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ditto what eschano said. Except I don't always weigh myself every day. But it only takes a second, so most days I do. Half the time I forget the number before the day is over and it's time to update my check-in. :) I guess I'm not totally rocked one way or the other with what the scale says. On the ...

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That's more than a week under the 200-mark, eh? Like jw said, the new normal.

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jw, one week with no gluten and you are feeling better in your joints? That is awesome!!! It makes me think of so many people that have joint pain that could at least give gluten-free a try. My husband, for one! And his mom has terrible joint problems and has struggled with her weight for decades......

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Wednesday, Week 25 N Day 133.0 (wowza, surprising but pleasantly!) NoSEating coffee with cream B: oatmeal L: microwaveable chicken pot pie, some potato chips D: spinach mozarella ravioli, glass of milk wine NoSittingOnButt walked to/from work (85 minutes.....I guess I'm walking faster!) 40-second pl...

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I'm a big fan of full-fat dairy!

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yay! good job making it through your tricky day!

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Oh, that does sound like a bit of a downer. I hope your trip ends up being fun and that this particular friend can save her baby talk for her other friends! You know what I'd do? (of course, I am extremely independent, not always the most supportive friend)--I'd plan on mixed drinks. Those are fruff...

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Hope those headaches go away soon!

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do you mean you are going to load up your plates a little more to make sure you are full?

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Thanks for sharing about this difficult time. Beautiful that routine is helpful in the midst of emotional upheaval.

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Yay, NoSnacker! Another sweet victory for your mental and physical health.

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Good job!

And men and their dratted fast metabolisms!

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You can always plan it as an S Day, but then eat normally. I like that kind of NoS freedom. I'm a big proponent of setting the bar at a reasonable height so that failure is unlikely.

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It's always a relief when NoS sees us through a hectic day! Good job Imogen! Hope the rest of your crazy week goes OK, too.

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good walking today! fairness of skin and number of moles are the primary risk factors for skin cancer, if that helps you consider your risk at all....? Also, paradoxically, the more lifetime sun exposure a person has the lower his/her risk of melanoma (the scariest kind of skin cancer). Weird, hun?

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Linda, I had to laugh about your parenting comment (be more proactive, affectionate. la la la). So true, right, but please remind me of those lofty goals while one kid is whining about being hungry and another one won't leave me alone while I try to go to the bathroom. Just tonight, i tried to escap...

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Thanks, Chani. :) I wanted to start documenting my month-by-month progress, all in preparation for my 1-year testimonial (ha! go ahead, laugh, I know I'm silly). I'm afraid I'll forget some of this stuff, so I'm just jotting down a summary: Month 1: Realized a) how much I had been snacking and how h...

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That's my priority and if I can't lose weight in this moderate & sane way than so be it. Love this! Just yesterday I was thinking about how long I've been NoSing. WAY longer than any diet I've ever tried (those usually lasted a few days or few weeks). I think it would be scary to be depriving mysel...

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Tuesday, Week 25 N Day 133.4 NoSEating coffee with cream B: oatmeal L: spaghetti, apple, and handful of mixed nuts D: steak fajitas, guacamole, few chips with salsa update: I didn't get to eat until almost 8pm. Normal dinner time is 5:30pm. I was VERY hungry between 4:30 and 6:30pm, but then, (mirac...

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Hi Tessy!!

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Hopefully you do something nice for yourself again soon.
I know how catching up with a friend can feel more like a chore than a treat. I have to be in the right mood for that.

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I do think the crunchier food idea is intriguing, but I'd still have to advise that you don't overthink the S days yet. Like Sonya said, plan treats that you LOVE for your S days. Don't eat your "second favorite" treats..... That sounds way too much like forbidden foods diets. Try to put all this gl...

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This is definitely one of those impossible situations. If it makes you feel better, Reinhard says that is the cause of most of his fails.... Social pressure, especially from relatives.

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Thanks Sweetness, Anna, and eschano for the supportive comments! :) Monday, Week 25 N Day NoSEating coffee with cream B: oatmeal L: PB&J, apple, clementine milky coffee D: spaghetti, buttered toast, glass of milk red wine NoSittingOnButt walked to/from work (90 minutes) 40-second plank 50 jumping ja...

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yeah, those people really into FB probably need to start practicing weekend luddite, or whatever that "don't be lazy" system is.....

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Happy Birthday!

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Isn't it great how we look forward to N Days?

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It's neat how there can be a natural progression to food changes over time, MJ.
Also I consider not checking your (ex)friend's page as "cutting out the junk", too!

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sorry you're not feeling well, Chani.

Hope you feel better tomorrow.

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Right--remembering your dinner for Thursday will be key!

Good luck!

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I definitely think finding a rhythm to which days are consistently S days is important. I think it's important mentally (to make it habitual) and also I think our bodies grow used to the pattern, as well.

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Good self-talk!

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I like the sound of that: Capital S. Makes me feel very British.

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Any kind of pasta, or soup and bread, Mexican food

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And of course I'm a big fan of your digressions, Chani!

No stressing, nice addition!

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Sunday, Week 25 S Day S Day S Day! NoSEating coffee with milk Brunch: leftover pizza Desserts: Rocky Mountain chocolate factory: small piece of English Toffee, Mountain Toffee, and Almond Bear. These chocolates were not quite as tasty as the usual See's candies I get on the weekends. I got the boys ...

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Good luck with your upcoming busy week, Imogen.

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Sounds like you are doing well.
Enjoy the rest of your S day and the upcoming N Days.

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This conversation is getting me all fired up to empty out my pantry, freezer and fridge!

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jw and chani, interesting about the weight gain connection. Jw, have you read Wheat Belly? That was my first exposure to the idea that gluten problems can lead to weight gain (rather than, as you pointed out, the traditional idea that all celiacs are underweight).

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Yay for a great party, but most importantly, yay for how brave you were to invite people and take social risks! Super stuff!

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Linda, thanks for the encouragement. NoSnacker, thanks for the lentil soup recipe. Saturday, Week 24 S Day S Day S Day NoSEating B: eggs and bacon coffee with milk L: hot dog and potato chips, diet coke, 1 mini-butterfinger D: beef burrito, lemonade, chocolate frosty NoSittingOnButt 40-second plank ...

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I hope this forum doesn't go away, because I love it. And I don't love Facebook.......

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excellent news about the heartburn going away! That is the kind of self-rewarding benefit of NoS that helps keep us at the habit even when the scale is immediately doing what we'd like it to.

Congrats on your journey, NoSnacker!

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I love this idea, Oolala!
I have found that by limiting my shopping to one day, I am making actual effective lists (!) to make sure I don't buy too much extra. But your idea is even more challenging, and I like the sound of it.
Waste not, want not!

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A 4-hour walk? You are a she-warrior, Chani!

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Enjoy your weekend, herbsgirl.

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