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myfitnesspal, that's what it means! Got it!

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What's MFP mean? Oh, I guess you do love coffee! :) I have to admit, I do keep myself to a 4-cup limit. And I make my coffee pretty creamy so it's almost like a meal (the ultimate NoS indulgence is beverages, both of my favorite: coffee and wine). So cool that you are a foster mom! My sister-in-law ...

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Thanks everybody for the encouragement! Chani, that's definitely the first time I have ever had anyone tell me my menu was beautiful. I didn't even know I had a menu, but hey, I think I'll start thinking of it like that. :) Come to the Restaurant Auto, where there are 3 solids a day! Yes, you guys a...

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I have been reading a little about ChiWalking lately. I think they have a DVD too, but I'm not sure if it actually has workouts on it.

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oolala, I think you should type up your own materials as well for the group. Make a workbook that your participants complete a little of each week, or even at points during the meetings.

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How exciting! Have fun celebrating your anniversary! Probably your tummy hurts because you gave up coffee! Ha, ha, just kidding. But I am firm coffee advocate, and love the stuff. No one can convince me it's bad for me: I just tell them I'm staving off Alzheimer's, cancer, and every other health ail...

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It's all in where we're taught to find our self-esteem, isn't it? I feel lucky that I wasn't raised with guilt or expectations around eating or weight -- by the time I finally got fat in my 50's, I had a cast-iron ego! I just bought plus size fashion magazines and carried on! I still don't feel gui...

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Yes, joasia, make sure you never get excited.

I'll get excited for you! That is a definite low-fluctation! See, you can call it a fluctuation and then it's not like you're counting on it staying there! But in the meantime, you can still be "excited".

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Hi Dale-- I agree, 1 hour is a lot! I have been walking to work and have considered it great exercise. Then I just read an article about sticking with exercise, and they added as a side-note: consider also walking to work, as if it doesn't count toward the 1 hour of exercise. Well, phooey on that. I...

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Sounds good, eschano. In one of my classes (microbiology) my students all joke by the end of the quarter that whenever I ask a question, "yogurt" is the correct response. :) You'd think I'd eat more, considering how magical a food I think it is! Although personally yogurt is my favorite, there are l...

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yay! Exciting news about your grandson. Hope you get some sleep soon!

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OK, OK, enough discussion about going out in the sunshine and picking fruit (in JANUARY!!).

We used to live in North Carolina and I still pine for the climate there. Ahh, warmth.

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N Day NoSEating coffee with milk B: vanilla yogurt cup L: apple slices, clementine, mixed nuts, carrots D: chicken fettuccine alfredo, chips, garlic bread NoSittingOnButt walked to/from work (90 minutes) 30-second plank 50 jumping jacks NoSpending Made it! Had to deny kids their typical Monday after...

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Whoa, at first I read that as "18" degrees, not "NEGATIVE 18 degrees"!!! Sheesh, that sounds miserable.

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I thought you were saying they probably SHOULDN'T journal, if it was going to just make them feel more ashamed.

Yes, this is what I meant. Golly, I am unable to put a coherent sentence together sometimes.

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Welcome! Makes sense to me, too.

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Hi Graham, I definitely accept that Vanilla NoS is not enough for a lot of people. I really am OK with that and would not try to push someone into it if they are led a different way. I was just wondering about how IF may actually be stressing your body. IF is great in theory, and wonderful for many ...

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Hey Linda, I was just rereading some of my older thread entries. I was emotional and bummed from October 26th-November 11th (about 2.5 weeks). Then all of a sudden I was fine again. Don't know if that helps you see a light at the end of the tunnel, but it was interesting to me to see that suddenly, ...

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Hi Graham, What's the longest amount of time you've done Vanilla NoS since you started (years ago?) You're not very overweight, so maybe 6 months would be a decent go. It'd be easier than what you're doing now (reading about all your fasts always makes me feel like I should go check my pantry for fo...

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Hi Chani,
I "urban rangered" to the grocery store today. It was pretty cool, but I probably looked a little eccentric pulling a wagon though the store.
Glad your yes S days went so well!

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I feel like I should clarify something: I don't think that anyone ought to feel like they should journal their eating. I do think something can be learned by how we feel about the idea of writing it down. Hopefully that makes sense.

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Happy New Year, Graham!

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admit it, you were crying too!

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You are inspirational, MJ! Thanks for sharing your NoS "testimony".

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Yes, that's for sure!

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Oh my goodness that sounds awful! The residual smell is probably because that burnt styrofoam stench has to get worked out of the pipes. It makes sense it was worse at night when it got colder. If the smell doesn't go away, i would definitely call the landlord again. It's in his best interest to be ...

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We could all take the NoS Hobbit-style approach: Breakfast, 2nd Breakfasts, elevensies, luncheon, afternoon tea, dinner and supper.

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And on related shame topic, I wonder if journaling food could be the absolute most difficult if someone has a lot of shame associated with their eating. i'm sure there's lots of other reasons why someone wouldn't journal what they eat (avoiding diet head, just enjoying the simplicity of not counting...

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I'm sure I'll be the first of many that completely agrees with you on this one. Shame is not only NOT a motivator, it actually causes people to do the very thing they hate. There is a wealth of psychological evidence about this topic, and the evidence just keeps piling up: want self-sabotage? Use sh...

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20 weeks of NoSing! I'm lovin' it! S DAY NoSEating coffee with milk B: cinnamon toast crunch L: 2 plates of nachos with avocado slices, diet coke D: spaghetti, garlic bread wine NoSittingOnButt walked to the grocery store pulling the 4-yr in a wagon (probably about 3 miles round trip). I tied a scar...

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You went out to dinner with her already? Wow, that is awesome. She sounds like a sweetie.

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Hi herbsgirl, I don't usually comment on your check-in because it just says your bites! :) If you chat it up about other stuff (kiddos, hubbie-os, school stuff, sad stuff, mad stuff, other idea-stuff) then it gets me thinking and then I can't shut up! I definitely have one main thought every time I ...

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Have you read Born to Run? by Christopher McDougall? It is so inspiring it has gotten me doing a tiny bit of jogging, and I am so NOT a runner--not interested, not good, hurts me, etc. So if that book could get me off the couch, it must be counted as truly inspirational!

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Linda, I certainly don't look down on you! I'm sorry if in any way I made you feel that way.

You expressed your thoughts and reasons for tweaking and that was good enough for me.

See, I am the meanest one on the boards! Ha, ha.

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Welcome! I started on a Sunday, too--great strategy!

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Well, I feel obligated to answer, but I am sheepish about my journal. I truly like keeping track, so it's not a burden to me right now. And I know a lot of people don't like it, so I would never recommend or push it on others. Plus, l've only been at this habit for 4 and a half months, so my method ...

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S DAY 136.1 NoSEating coffee with milk B: cinnamon toast crunch L: 4 pieces pizza, diet coke Dessert: fudgecicle D: terriyaki chicken, rice and green beans; lemonade oops, ate a bowl of chex mix with hubby just because they were there. i did enjoy them but i wasn't hungry. **upon further reflection,...

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Welcome back from your travels! Sounds delicious.

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Ha, ha, I can answer that one for you, NoSnacker! Oolala does NOT keep a food journal. She can't imagine trying to write it all down, I suspect it makes her want to roll her eyes up in her head. That said, she does think it's a reasonable thing for us to do, and is actually one of the activities clo...

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Hi eschano, I just wanted to thank you for encouraging me a few months ago that plateaus are normal on NoS. I was at a point where I was thinking a little too much about weight loss. Your post to me about plateaus helped push me off my "mental" plateau that NoS is just about weight loss. And here I ...

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NoS is fascinating to me. I feel like it has opened up a whole new way to view the world. Moderation. How often have I said I believe in that, and how often have I failed to live by it? Make something a habit, and we have energy freed up to take on new decisions, new creations, new projects. If some...

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Oolala,
I'm curious if your time on this forum has given you greater insight into the success rate of NoS compared with the abysmal 5-10% rate of typical diets.

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Now that you mention it, jw, I just realized that I have read on countless other nutrition forums and never once--never ONCE had joining crossed my mind.

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N Day NoSEating coffee with milk B: 2 eggs on 2 pieces of toast L: carrots, apples, mixed nuts, cheese D: pizza, diet coke NoSittingOnButt (or other less rude acronym-prone phrase) walked to/partially from work (a friend stopped and drove me home!) 30-second plank NoSpending Made it! NoElectrifiedKi...

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yep, it's the one by McDougall.

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yay! These sound like some great goals and it seems you're putting together an action plan that is reasonable and doable.

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Yeah, they're more emotionally attached to sports! My husband can shed tears over a football game and truly be grieving..... it only upsets him more that I absolutely cannot get it!

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I feel your pain, TL! When my oldest son was 4 and my youngest was 1 was my all-time low for being able to care for myself. I was chronically sleep-deprived, me-time deprived, patience deprived, etc. I promise, it will gradually get easier. Working hard now to establish NoS habits is probably the sa...

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Oh, I hope you begin feeling better too (and everyone else in your house!). You probably know this, but Sick Days are S Days......

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Congrats on the wedding anniversary and the amazing organization that was probably necessary for you to be ready for a 4-day hike! Have fun!!

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Congratulations! What a perfect ending to your 2013 check-in! Yay, yay, yay!!!

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I'm in for NoSpending on N Days. January: 1: fail (bought ferry ticket for travels) 2: fail (needed groceries and gas once we got home) 3: success (finally!!!) 4/5: S Days 6: :) 7: :) 8: :) 9: :) 10: :) 11/12: S Days 13: :) 14: :) 15: :) 16: :) 17: :) 18/19: S Day latte, here I come! 20: Taking an S...

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N DAY 135.8 NoSEating coffee with milk B:2 pieces of toast with peanut butter L: chicken fettuccine; potato chips; 2 clementines D: apple, clementine, mixed nuts, carrots NoSittingOnButt 30-minute walk 30-second plank NoSpending FAIL by the letter of the law; fine in spirit. Had no groceries (since ...

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And thanks Linda for not being disgusted at my convenience-food lifestyle. That is very kind of you, culinary graduate that you are!!

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Looking forward to following your journal this month! I think daily entries are great. I don't look at them as a burden at all (more like my personal counseling time!), and I am on Week 19 of daily entries.

Have fun with it!

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Hi NoSnacker. I really should completely break the latte habit. I'm not even picky about my coffee. I'm perfectly content at home to mix drip coffee with a cup of whole milk and microwave it. Tastes great to me. :) So, it's even more ridiculous that I have been paying $3.50 a pop for lattes. Some ki...

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Hi eschano!

Here's to a wild ride (but not wild S days) for 2014!

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Linda--that was a fascinating article and a very interesting website that I would like to peruse further.

Great discussion on your thread, NoSnacker.

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Love these posts, finallyfull.

I feel like I missed something, though: when and why did you try calorie-counting?

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Hi Jill,
Welcome!
I think you'll love how sustainable NoS is.

I love it for the reasons you mentioned (eating with family, not overly restrictive) and lots others!

I also use a physical habitcal. I have the cutest little 2014 calendar on one page that I am just beginning.

Happy New Year!

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joasia,
I will leave you alone about this question after I ask one more time!

So you are being near-perfect compliant on NoS and your walking? The answer will just help me know how to encourage you (even if me asking the question is purely annoying).

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Hi Chani,
I read those books. Go dauntless.

You seem to definitely be a dauntless in real life with your kick-butt workouts and careful eating!
Do you eat "anti-diabetes" as a preventative or do you have blood sugar regulation problems (low or high)?

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Hang in there, Linda! You're brave to even assign a green or red day to your anger. I think I would have so many red days!!!!

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N Day: still with relatives NoSEating B: sausage and egg casserole; fruit and yogurt coffee with cream L: beef stew and some chips D: yogurt; apples slices; cheese slices; little bit of salami NoSMoving 30-minute walk 30-second plank NoSFinances A fail in letter and a succeed in spirit. We drove hom...

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S Day, at relatives B: pumpin pancakes, 2 eggs, celery/carrot juice coffee with milk L: yogurt, apples slices, whole milk latte D: beef stew, potato chips 1 small plate of desserts/snacks for New Year's Eve Party--wanted more at first, but told myself I would actually prepare a "plate" of my favorit...

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Linda, it's great to see you having a good experience with your s events.

And that is neat that you want to try out the No Spending rule on a few days! That motivates me to stick with my 12-week experiment.

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I am reading a book that I bet you have read: Born to Run. It is so good! I can't put it down! And, ha ha, I am NOT a runner. So that's quite the advertisement for this book. ;) I'm halfway through with it. I keep thinking....Lori would love this book! It's really about so much besides running....it...

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Hi oolala, even though I ate junk for lunch yesterday, I did actually just pile it all on one plate! So I called it a meal. For some reason, I like to do that, even on S Days. The dessert was after I'd finished the plate. :) I guess it's all somewhat arbritrary: what we call a meal, a snack and/or a...

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Still visiting relatives Moderate Eating NoS Diet B: eggs, pancakes, bacon coffee with cream L: tuna fish sandwich; apple slices; orange slices; chips D: pot roast, potatoes, and a salad Wine Moderate Exercise Urban Ranger 45 minute walk (took some creative determination to fit this in) 30-second pl...

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S Day 138.2 Visiting relatives 30-second plank B: life cereal coffee with milk L: (don't laugh!!) bowl of chex mix, 5 different kinds of christmas cookies Dessert: small bowl of ice cream mixed up with milk to make a shake whole milk latte 45 minute walk with relatives D: bowl of beef stew, garlic b...

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I say follow your passion! You are obviously good at helping people with eating issues, and many people need the face to face accountability. I think of people on this forum that were obviously struggling, and then disappeared. I'm sure in your years on this forum you have seen many people struggle ...

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Your words could have been mine again! I completely understand.

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I really relate to many of your feelings as you start your NoS journey, Jo! I remember feeling (and probably posting) similar things when I started.

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oolala, we crossed posts again!

I taught middle school and then high school for 6 years. I've been teaching community college for 7 years now, and I am much happier!

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S Day! 136.5 30-second plank and 30-second lower abs hold coffee with milk B: life cereal L: apple slices, orange pieces, 2 pieces leftover pizza D: hot dog, potato salad, chips, watermelon, lemonade 2 pieces hard candy, 1 frosty jw, thanks for the soup ideas. I will consider..... it does sound doab...

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Yeah, I'm pretty excited about this opportunity to reign in my spending with the simplicity of NoS principles. Oolala, my 4-yr old goes to preschool, and luckily they are still not buying all the kids ipads... ha! Mine begs to play on mine, though... My 8-yr old (2nd grade) is homeschooled, so I don...

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Good job on a 4-mile walk! Do you push the baby in the stroller? Who watches all the other kids for you to be able to do that?

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jw, I know you have a soup thread somewhere (with wosnes, probably!)

I was wondering, do you have a soup recipe that maybe even I could try? I don't like cooking, and I don't like having to get lots of ingredients..... but I DO love soup and bread for lunch......

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Definitely alright. :) At the beginning, I had quite a few HUGE plates of nachos, covered with tons of cheese, sour cream, beans, and guacamole. Although I still love nachos, I don't feel the need to pile it on anymore. Also a the beginning I would sometimes eat a whole round of sourdough with yogur...

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Yeah, especially once we find Urban Ranger and start walking to work!

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NoS is great for our budgets, isn't it?!

Amazing how much we save not buying expensive snack foods.

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I'll chime in here, although I'm sure you meant your question for NoSnacker! :) I deal with REPEATED, EXPECTED, and MULTI-DAILY desires to snack. It took only a few weeks to break myself of the habit of actually picking up random food and eating it; but every day I have to prepare myself to confront...

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Ha, I think you meant freggies, right?

I think since you're just starting out, have a packet of instant oatmeal or a latte and call it breakfast. That should get you through to lunch.

I would caution against setting yourself up for uber-hunger in these early days.

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137.7 (that's what pizza does to me NoSnacker--almost every time! It's just water-weight but it's very predictable to me now) 30-second plank walked to/from work (90 minutes) I've been traveling and off from work, so I felt SO sluggish walking in. Good stuff, though. B: whole milk latte, oatmeal L: ...

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Hi Joasia, Your check in doesn't always make it clear to me if you had a "green" or "red" day. Also, it looks like you have not been walking daily....maybe once or twice a week? So, look back over your checkins/habitcal or whatever you track your habit with..... have you had more than a few reds eac...

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137.5
coffee with milk
L: minestrone soup, egg on toast, toast with butter, orange
D: pizza, diet coke

NoSnacker, I think Reinhard is working on a book about habits in general, but I'm not really sure.

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That is funny, NoSnacker! I have never been a super-perfectionist about house-cleaning, but I will tell you I had a problem with wanting things truly squeaky clean, and not getting to the basic clutter, etc., because I was so busy scrubbing the floor and shampooing carpets. I have stopped so much of...

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Welcome "aboard" the cruise to moderate eating!

I love your 1-year idea. Just take things nice and slow and steady. This is a marathon, not a sprint!

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Thanks for the post, middleeager. The rule doesn't apply to me. :) I am at work much of the day, however, so I have time during breaks to post for NoS, etc. BUT, I am thinking that I will have to decrease my screen time too, since the kids won't be occupied with their own electronics. I have a feeli...

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I think Strawberry Roan uses the limited S-events/week. I think Imogen does something like that too. Who else does?

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I certainly can't speak much to French society, but I will comment on one question I had while reading the article: What kind of "careers" are we talking about that you have to be skinny (and well-dressed) to get in France? Because the article seemed to be referring to business, if I read correctly....

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3 plates a day. No sweets, no seconds, no snacks. I chant that to myself sometimes on tough days. Snacks are not an option, Sweets are best on weekends, Seconds are too much anyway. (I talk to myself a lot!)

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So cool that you are doing NoS with a friend!

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This post may be long, but I felt I needed to put some of these ideas on "paper" (ha) as I try to formulate further use of NoS principles (that is, habit-living) to other areas of my life. My previous post discussed the actual method we will be implementing for January (I would start today but we wi...

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Hi Emma! Welcome to learning the habits of moderate eating!

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Great attitude, Imogen! It seems that you have become more gentle with yourself..... Good job!

Oh, and I love your smiley to mark an S day!

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Been doing thinking about NoS principles in other areas of life (can't wait to read Reinhard's new book about habits). Electronic use (TV, TV games, ipads, kindles, and laptops are all in my home) are a constant issue for me and my kids. How much to use, when, how to earn time, how you lose time, an...

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Right! Back to N days!

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I remember you mentioning you have generalized anxiety. Do you take any medications for that? I am so not normally a proponent of them, but I know you work your tail off for moderation and balance, all that good stuff, so perhaps a nice anti-anxiety medication would be perfect until you can retire!!...

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