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lbb (Liz)

oolala: This is the one by Baumeister & Tierney: Willpower. From the library. But I also checked out the "Willpower Instinct" which was interesting as well. I love this stuff. My library has a ton, including that "Mindless Eating", which I may just buy. Sometimes that becomes a new addiction of mine...

lbb (Liz)

Before I return my "Willpower" book to the library, I wanted jot down a few favorite quotes: "The best way to reduce stress in your life is to stop screwing up. That means setting up your life so that you have a realistic chance to succeed. Successful people don't use their willpower as a last-ditch...

lbb (Liz)

No binge. Didn't eat off boys' plates. Not a lick. Yes, to sweets. Ate breakfast out of hunger (oatmeal) post run. Ate lunch out of lots of hunger (chicken, veggie, cottage cheese, feta salad). Went out to dinner (8pm) to a fantastic fresh-mex place. Was starving. Held off on ANY chips and salsa for...

lbb (Liz)

Just so you know, MJ7910 I so know what you're alluding to on the "overly full" trigger point. The "just right" is tougher to nail, eh? Good luck and don't be fearful. Just empathetic with yourself. The less harsh you are, I swear the better. "You will feel gross with too much, and you deserve to no...

lbb (Liz)

You nailed it, oolala. The little from that book that I'm taking home is mainly to make it easier on myself by having less in the house. Proximity of food DOES matter. I used to buy Costco sized M&M bags to be cost-effective, make cookies every week and have to ration and portion out enough for myse...

lbb (Liz)

Weighed myself today. Just sporadically this morning. I'm not giving it value, just was curious. 126.5 I look fine, some of my pants are tighter for sure. I have probably gained muscle these last few months, too. I re-started NO-S in March. And did really well in the beginning with about 2 weeks all...

lbb (Liz)

Amy, thanks for pointing out that statement again. It also hits home about not being able to change until we are WILLING to live differently!

Sounds so simple, but we cannot change if we don't make changes. hahah.

(duh?)

Enjoy your weekend, oolala!

lbb (Liz)

Glad to see you back, Amy.
I'm sorry you haven't felt like yourself! Nothing worse.
Great work on "going with the flow", though!
xo

lbb (Liz)

A good day. Wiped out from not much sleep last night. Woke up early and went on a run. Most of my energy is in the morning and then it wanes from theron out. Last day of school today and it RAINED CATS AND DOGS. Of course, since it's Seattle we still had our picnic outside. Because that's what ya do...

lbb (Liz)

Oh man yummy meals! GREAT work on your green day! YAY! I know the feeling of anxiety about "that's it?". I never feel that way post-break/lunch...just dinner. I so agree about not having the sugar around. Lately i'm just keeping popsicles since they are SO not a temptation. Great for the kids though...

lbb (Liz)

Thank you my dear friends for your extremely HELPFUL ADVICE! Wow. I feel so blessed with very well-thought-out words from you! I haven't check in for a bit because end-of-school has been SO busy. But alas, I would like to report the last 2 days as Vanilla! I have taken your advice, oolala and commit...

lbb (Liz)

I'm sorry rungirl. I relate well. For the amount I exercise, I should be looking better than ever. And it's not like I'm heavy, per-se, but could be so much better and feel better if I didn't binge sporadically. Totally get the "breaking even" thing. It's so taxing though...making up for it. I remem...

lbb (Liz)

Weighing is such a mixed-bag for me. Either I feel like you weigh every single day (which is obsessive a bit), so you can see the fluctuations and understand the ebbs and flows, or very rarely. My problem is, the scale messes with my mind a bit. When pregnant with all 3 boys, I usually turned around...

lbb (Liz)

Yes, some different self-talk is needed at these times for sure. I'm thinking of having a habitcal for "break the cycle"...like your idea of yellow on that day. Red if I go all-crazy, but yellow, if I had a bite, and stopped. Once I have taken a bite of something, and then stopped or moved onto the ...

lbb (Liz)

I had a little "aha" moment last night. My brain felt so full. My tummy felt enormous from all that granola and such. I just was confused and "what do I eat tomorrow since I overdid it today?" See, that's where yesterday's fail came about. I got so thrown off trying to get back to hunger feelings, t...

lbb (Liz)

Yes take lots of rest and "me time", or snuggling with your boys time (they are probably too old to want to do that!)

Wish you good health!

lbb (Liz)

Frustrated with myself today. Seeing as I had a red fail yesterday, I decided I wouldn't eat till hungry today. And I really felt no hunger until about 1:30pm. During which I had a bowl of oatmeal, half a banana, and some pb. Great and dandy. Some friends invited us over for "Happy Hour" at 5pm. I d...

lbb (Liz)

I don't really have a solution for you and am in the same boat about messing up today and really going full-force with the WTH syndrome. :( I think back, and I'm not bagging on No-S at all, but pre-No-S and though my habits were not stellar, I'd eat a cookie at times, maybe 2, not freak out, but mov...

lbb (Liz)

i'm so sorry. i relate, though. oh so much. i did it again today. binge, that is. it started with a lot of "set-ups" and i should have known better. but what pains me more is the fact that i can't just "roll with it". feeling "pregnant" too, in my fat pants. kinda reminds me how they say about kids ...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks for the good idea, MJ7910. I think I should do that, too. In the podcasts I've listened to (only a few), it talks so much about how this SHOULDN'T be a struggle. For me, the 3 meals/day thing, one plate isn't that hard, but I MAKE it hard. Kinda finagling (sp?) more confusing stuff into it. Y...

lbb (Liz)

I know it's hard to eat lots on S days. But I'll tell ya: don't beat yourself up about S days. Really, never do, but you can't fail on those days. I had some over-the-top-ness, too. But I'm disappointed that I underwent some RED behavior yesterday, an N day instead. So, focus on the 5 days/week GOOD...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks Amy and Jennifer! Today will be good. Man I learned a lesson though last night. I CRASHED! And I believe it was a white sugar/carb crash. And it's SO not worth it. It was different than any other binge. Quantity-wise, I didn't have SOOO much, but high carb bready stuff and I just couldn't kee...

lbb (Liz)

I'm sorry Amy. I felt the same way yesterday, but as you read, it was due to feeling not well. For some reason, I felt that the next food would "do it", ya know? You're making amazing progress along the way. Thanks for the podcasts suggestions. I've listened to a few of them and they are really help...

lbb (Liz)

Glad you checked in, Sinnie. Thought about you.
On here less, too, but so busy right now.
Had a fail yesterday and not the BEST S days, but okay.
Just plugging on.
Hope you're doing okay. Stay the course, my friend!
xo

lbb (Liz)

Okay S days. Definitely better than others, but way way too much cookie dough :(. Today was great. Until I had a red. I don't know why I thought I was immune. During piano lessons for my oldest, there is about 25 minutes to kill. Not long enough to go home, and too rainy for the park. Great Harvest ...

lbb (Liz)

I'm all about strictness and no, the dark chocolate didn't fit into your "timeframe", but man, Amy, the fact you could even HAVE a piece of dark chocolate. One piece. And be okay? Wow I think you're learning moderation. No-S has hard and fast rules for a reason. To keep us from going nuts on food. B...

lbb (Liz)

Glad to have you back, oolala. Sorry about the internet problems you've had. Besides the hassle, I bet in a way it was nice to have a break! Wow how impressive that your N days were compliant while away. You ARE right in that it's almost easier when there aren't your FAVORITE kinds of foods availabl...

lbb (Liz)

Had a very enjoyable S day yesterday. I ate a fair amount of treats, but my day was full and busy and fun. Morning started with wholegrain pancakes which I NEVER eat. They were delightful. Oh, and a little granola that I wanted to try from Trader Joes. Went on a long run with a friend. Had a decent ...

lbb (Liz)

How did it go?
Hopefully well. Enjoy your S weekend.

lbb (Liz)

Summer parties and bbq's ARE hard. But honestly, so are holidays from November-October... :shock: I guess that's why it's all the more important to instill good habits. To put on "our armor", so to say for the challenging times! I struggle, maybe like you, on the food laid on a table, get a decent p...

lbb (Liz)

THis is wonderful and awesome all in one! You are an inspiration. I love that N days are becoming more the "norm" for you. And the fact that you COULD fall asleep after just two chocolates means you were NOT compulsive and antsy (the way i get when I start with treats). Take care today and enjoy tho...

lbb (Liz)

You WILL make it to the midnight hour! HOoray on the green week. It will be so ingrained in your life soon enough that it won't be something you're "doing", just "who you are". I did the same thing initially. Did really well in the beginning, then plummeted. I think I thought about it too much, over...

lbb (Liz)

said i'd only check-in with "negative qualification", and will but also have to always take note when i feel good! i had another green yesterday and i just love waking up not bloated/sick. remember this liz! i also exercised in the late afternoon instead of morning yesterday and it kinda helped me a...

lbb (Liz)

I'm sorry, Deb. I can totally relate to the rough days. I had them really the last few weeks, but kinda had to have a "come to Jesus" moment (excuse the terminology, but it fits) last weekend. I had hit an all-time low and had to really get "real" with myself. Listening to the podcasts about strictn...

lbb (Liz)

Good job on not being "idiotic" !:) It's the last day of preschool today and our kids still don't get out of elementary till next Friday (in the Pacific Northwest it doesn't feel like summer anyways!). I like this "summer challenge" though. I think I will join you on that bandwagon today. I'm feelin...

lbb (Liz)

I relate big-time. I had an AWFUL red week last week+weekend. Had all greens this week, except a binge on Tues. But I have less reds this week. And am feeling a bit better. It's helped to focus on ONE meal at a time. I can't do the 21 day challenges/month challenges, etc. It contributes to my "what ...

lbb (Liz)

You go girl! Thanks for your encouragement all around! And for the recommendation for those podcasts on someone else's thread. I will listen today at the gym! GOod luck today. Pizza is tough for me. I have a hard time feeling fulfilled with a little. But you have done it before and you can do it aga...

lbb (Liz)

Oh you can say that again. You get that wake up feeling without regret and bloat and bad taste in the mouth (maybe that's me?).
And you're like, "please remember this forever"! It feels so good.
One meal at a time.
Good job!

lbb (Liz)

I think I hold onto weight sometimes as a safety belt. I have had to explore why I feel less vulnerable and "excused" from certain things in life when heavier. I also am a people pleaser and never wanted others to feel intimidated or threatened. And heaven forbid, not be the friend who wasn't fun an...

lbb (Liz)

Wow I'm so impressed with you! Way to go on the donuts. It's amazing how that "other self" can sometimes convince you one donut is okay. And you resisted! A definite feat of strength. That resistance muscle is getting huge! As for the watermelon, you made all the correct points. Yes, mark a fail, bu...

lbb (Liz)

We NEED the strictness. Because I think of things I used to never do, but do now, and they happened little by little...:) SO happy for you that you kept your day to just the key lime and a few watermelon balls. Sounds like you listened to yourself, didn't have the WTH syndrome, and shut the gates. Y...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, Amy. YES it was green and I feel so good in the morning after. I need to remember this feeling of no-regret, no-bloat. B: pb oats, banana yoga class L: huge chicken salad D: 2 eggs, 2 pieces toast, veggies Can't say that at night it's not tempting to get a treat. But I withheld. My husband w...

lbb (Liz)

I so relate my friend on so many levels. I'm leaving in 2 weeks for my big expedition to see friends/family for a month and I swear the anxiety of seeing everyone and not feeling at my best is getting to me. It's like I have this deadline and I keep sabotaging myself. Trying to live in the present! ...

lbb (Liz)

I'm sorry Brianna. I think we all relate big-time, unfortunately.
I'm working on ONE MEAL AT A TIME.
I mess myself up when I think too far ahead. Which I've been doing.
GOod luck tonight. You can go green!

lbb (Liz)

I relate to the pull of calorie counting, esp. when you feel like you are overdoing it, but it never helps to log it in, I think! And to the thought that you want to finish off any leftover food! Sounds like you are doing really well. And you make wonderful meals! I relate to lots of the types of fo...

lbb (Liz)

You are my role-model. Getting there, I promise! I actually HAVE been where you are now, with many a greens under my belt a couple years ago and I had never felt better in life. Really. My thoughts of food were minimal and I felt really good physically. Eye on the prize! Thanks for all your encourag...

lbb (Liz)

Sorry you had a rough go last night, too.
Yikes what's the deal, eh?
Don't ya just feel awful the next morning? If we could only remember, right?
Hugs and empathy shooting your way today!
xo

lbb (Liz)

Oh man it hurts to check-in with a negative qualification. I guess that's why it's a big motivator. Tonight was weird. After a sub-par dinner (4 different weird left-overs thrown on a plate), my husband found the leftover chocolate chip cookies in the freezer from the weekend. I had forgotten we had...

lbb (Liz)

This is a fantastic re-cap. I have this book and need to dust it off the shelves to read. One thing you wrote that stood out to me is those who have a lot of willpower in other things, leave nothing for food at times. I am also pretty disciplined in exercise, schedules, etc that food can act as the ...

lbb (Liz)

I relate to emotional and binge eating. This is a good place to establish good habits and "get right in the head." My advice, after struggling a bit in the beginning: go vanilla no-s (no modifications...) and be really strict in the beginning. It will help you get the habit down. Also, enjoy and mak...

lbb (Liz)

Congrats on stopping with the slip-ups.
And recording it.
No judgment or self-deprecation. Just move on.
xo

lbb (Liz)

NEVER feel "annoying that you can't get your act together". Are you serious? My whole week last week was red, and I went up and down on mods, etc. Yet I'm back and vanilla and the support is outstanding. We all relate. So go one day at a time. Enjoy that green. Have another today and then another. B...

lbb (Liz)

Amy thanks for all your support on my thread ALL the time! You truly are a sincere soul. I'm so proud of you! Eating to live, not living to eat! You truly are making dents into great habits that yes, when things settle down, your habit will keep you. Hold onto that good feeling! Get "addicted" to it...

lbb (Liz)

Not beating myself up at all about my reds last week and Ã¼ber treat weekend. But excited about this vanilla business for awhile. Can't say that I don't feel terribly bloated today. Yikes. Will track negative and my planned s events only. Yesterday's S events included a large delicious chocolate mac...

lbb (Liz)

I'm SOOO with you on this negative qualification only. Let's just make this our lifestyle where we don't have to make it too "expensive" or obtrusive in our lives. No S is just what we do. Simple and plain. I think the less we think about it, honestly, and just stay true to the STRICTNESS of VANILLA...

lbb (Liz)

GREAT reminder, TexArk. Thanks for that. "Carrying the chocolate bar in the purse!" haha. I loved that when I followed Roth's books! For some reason, though I could never just have a square. There was SO much mental energy with intuitive eating. I carried a cooler (practically) around with me "just ...

lbb (Liz)

oh man i completely relate to that kind of eating. i could pretty much say that has been most of my s-days up until now. today i tried a little harder and it made all the difference. still too much food, but better than the past. i HATE the snacking leading to not enjoying dinner. worst ever. i tota...

lbb (Liz)

I'm a big No-S fan and have veered away here and there with different mods thinking I know best (how dare I?! :wink: ). I'm realizing how deep ingrained my habits and mindsets are. Anyways, I spent a lot of time listening to the podcasts this weekend to help realign myself. I actually got a lot done...

lbb (Liz)

Thank you. I feel peace in that decision. Sometimes I realize I just have to buck up and do what I thought was harder... Vanilla. When in all reality, it's the "easier" long term choice. Less up and down!

lbb (Liz)

S day observance. Thought I wouldn't want any sweets ever again, but also wanted to treat this as an S day. Had 3 good healthy meals. Went on a run. Took my 2 year old out for ice cream. Enjoyed a huge self-serve frozen yogurt with a waffle cone. Then I could feel the brain circuitry trigger the go!...

lbb (Liz)

Oh man are you all the just the best or what? I feel the sincerity running through the modems here! :wink: I DO feel better. I went on a run, to the temple, and am back in action. Sometimes it just takes going low low low in order to get back and re-evaluate things. Listened to Reinhard's podcasts o...

lbb (Liz)

HOORAY!
Fist pumps!
Cheerleader kicks!
I'm so proud of you and you're my inspiration!
It DOES count. That one cookie.
Getting strict myself again.
Listened to podcasts and re-committed.
WE CAN DO THIS!
xoxo

lbb (Liz)

Thanks for your encouragement on my thread.
I'm inspired by your greens! And your moderate S days! Way to go!

lbb (Liz)

I'm pretty sure you're talking about fruit snacks in the package...I'm a mom and know that they are probably the packaged sweets. I would say they are sweets, but if you can limit them and they keep you satisfied on N days, then whatever. But for me, they are pretty much in the sweets category.

lbb (Liz)

Hi dear friends. Can I preface this post with an "I just need to talk this out and if you are sick of my ups, downs, ins, outs, and ever-changing resolves", then quit now. GOODBYE! Move to another thread." Because this is raw. I just finished bawling to my husband. Something I never do. I often don'...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, oolala. I think I get woo'd over and over by the thought that it will be all touchy-feely-no-brainer-let-go-of-those-damn-boots once I follow Geneen's book advice, but you're kinda left with some nice thoughts and a "what do I do next?". I like her, but don't relate to a lot of the past equa...

lbb (Liz)

Wow what a thoughtful post to digest. I will read and re-read it through again to understand more. Love it. And I'll have more comments, I'm sure, but one thing fast because I need a shower... I think what you're saying is we all need to ask ourselves what moderation means to us personally. In the w...

lbb (Liz)

Let's start our "book club" on this book together! I started re-reading today, but don't know about time I'll get to continue until late tonight.
Keep at it and we'll discuss!
xo

lbb (Liz)

A GREAT book, if you stick to the No-S plan for eating guides.
Oolala: brilliant post about compulsion. I really thought about this yesterday. About taking one minute at a time and being an observer of all things in my life.
Love it.

lbb (Liz)

Amen again to set eating times. Question, though: when you overeat the night before, and you usually eat breakfast about 8 and are not hungry, do you just jump back on the wagon to normal eating times, or wait it out to feel hungry again? Those lucky instinctive eaters. Not one of them myself. One o...

lbb (Liz)

lbb (Liz)

I'm sorry, Deb. Take care today and move on!

lbb (Liz)

One thing, Sinne. I dusted off my old "Women, Food and God" book from Geneen Roth and like this bit about obsession and bingeing which made me think of "leaving myself": "Staying where you are with what you are feeling or seeing or sensing is the first step in ending the obsession with food." She me...

lbb (Liz)

I only have access on my phone but am interested in this subject. Was reading a geneen roth book and she's all about eating when hungry. I do prefer the NO s methodology for habit control but constantly revisit the "intuitive eating" lure.
Will post more another time but interested to hear others.

lbb (Liz)

Hooray! And kettle corn!? That is dangerous round my parts!
Good job creating great habits!

lbb (Liz)

Well look at you, you moderate girl. Of course I want to hear how you're doing! I'm really sorry about the binge. No one understands the "outer body" thing more than myself. That was me last Sunday for sure. It probably started with all the picking earlier in the day and then you just wanted to feel...

lbb (Liz)

hey girl checking up on ya.
trying not to spend too much time on the boards myself for a couple days, but did think, "oh i wonder how sinnie is?".
take care!

lbb (Liz)

GOOOO Amy! I hope you're feeling a bit better today and picking yourself up.
xo

lbb (Liz)

Thanks friends for your support. Yesterday went well. I just took it easy on the mind. Did a yoga class, ate three meals of not perfect stuff, etc. But what helped in the non-compulsive department (note to self), is that I made my plate at dinner, but kinda was a little more loose about it. I get ri...

lbb (Liz)

Glad you resisted, Deb. You're making that resistance muscle stronger. oolala is right about changing your cards to "eating sanely". The bonus of "losing weight" is an added bonus to sane eating and good habits. I don't have weight to lose (of course 5 pounds would be great), but always battle the o...

lbb (Liz)

Well run girl I hate to add any more time to your computer time. :) I think it's totally normal and noble to want to steer away from reading about/figuring out this whole diet thing. Sometimes I get too much in my head, like I have been. And when faced with an eating decision I'll be like, "okay wha...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks a million for your comment this morning. It really really helped me more than you'll know. Just to de-criminalize food/treats. I have some work to do in that arena. But I think with my black/white neurotic personality, No-S is good, but also allows for too much of a pendulum swing. I definite...

lbb (Liz)

Wow I can't thank you all enough for your responses! In my prayers last night, I asked that I can just find some peace with food. And today these responses have really helped. Sinnie & rungirl: thanks for relating so well. I think we can all 3 benefit from oolala's analysis. Oolala: Yes, Ms. Compuls...

lbb (Liz)

So proud, oolala! Admire you keeping it smalL!
Hope today is good!

lbb (Liz)

I also love your attitude about moving on. You are an inspiration! I love that you see what you DID do well, as well. I need to do that more. It's so easy to see the negative!
Hope today is better...for the both of us!
xo

lbb (Liz)

Have a good day today, Deb. I struggled yesterday too. But moving on.
Take care.

lbb (Liz)

Last night I failed. I should just mark, move on but I get so curious about behavior and exactly WHAT lead me to failing. It wasn't just "OH MY WORD...there was a delectable brownie I couldn't pass up!". Different. I almost felt on edge from about 5pm on. I had had a substantial breakfast, lunch, di...

lbb (Liz)

fail. later tonight.
i'll go into detail in the morning.
marked, moved on.

lbb (Liz)

Sounds like how I eat things. My husband thinks I'm so weird.

Oh well! Sounds yum and good job on the no secret eating! You go girl!

lbb (Liz)

Hi! I hope you're out of your "funk" and feeling a bit better! It's SO hard to get out of that sugar hangover. It truly feels like one! I so often end up throwing out half-eaten ice cream or things JUST to have them outta sight! I also don't trust myself and follow the "remove temptations" rule! I'm...

lbb (Liz)

I'd like to join the "no weighing" phenomenon! :wink: Really, I do think it plays no part in me losing/staying sane. It's nice to know once in awhile, like you are doing, but daily, even weekly cannot be helpful! I think I fall most in the category of: "I can get away with more calories today becaus...

lbb (Liz)

HOORAY for no inside pantry eating! I love that feeling of being open, honest and in full view of food.
Keep this up you're doing great!

lbb (Liz)

Glad your DH knows you well enough to help you out. You're so right about snacking not being fulfilling at all. Not to mention kinda time-consuming because food is ALWAYS on the brain, whereas with meals, it's kinda one and done. I SO get the oral fixation thing. I'm the same! If I'm not drinking di...

lbb (Liz)

Good luck, Amy. Sorry about the bugs going around. I understand kids being sick and the anxious feelings it causes. Hope they get better soon!

Glad you at least got a run in to stress relief.
Think of that green on the habitcal, girl! Stick with it! Cheering for ya.
xo

lbb (Liz)

Your car story is reminding me how behind I am on getting our van serviced! Just waiting for THAT bill. Needs to be done before a big road trip at the end of the month, though! :roll: I hear ya on Costco. It's almost funny. Their portions there are like everything they sell. JUST HUGE! I mean I know...

lbb (Liz)

I'm, sorry, Deb. We've all been there in the "I don't care" mentality. It does sound like the scale is warping things, frustrating things a bit. Was breakfast with the pizza/luna a one-plate thing? If so, it sounds like the guilt that it was maybe BIGGER than normal is what sent you into a tailspin....

lbb (Liz)

thanks, all, for your support at kind of a needed time! today went well! green! really wasn't hungry most of the day, but wanted to continue in a 3-meal fashion in order to establish habit. didn't finish all my oats at breakfast. walked an hour at 4mph/4 incline on the treadmill. had lunch about 3pm...

lbb (Liz)

Props to pulling through the afternoon with just the cup of tea!
And sticking one plate!

I love taking a hot bath to relax, too.

You're right about it being Monday. Who would think Mondays could be such a relief?

Take care today!

lbb (Liz)

Amen to avoiding getting into low carb and such. Moderation is so key. I've toyed so much with paleo, low carb, low sugar. And it's all helpful in weight loss, but it messes with your head and is not easy in the world socially. I'm glad you're feeling better.Take care of yourself. Maybe the bingeing...

lbb (Liz)

You nailed it again, oolala. Right on. You're completely right about the scale. I will NOT get on tomorrow. Or anytime, for that matter. Can I tell you how many scales I've gone thru b/c we have gotten rid of them, hid them, etc? It's funny I had gone maybe a whole year without it, until out of curi...

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