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I just put food on my plate and enjoyed it. Also didn't have to worry about overeating, which I normally do with pizza. I feel good. I feel satisfied. Good for you, for eating a reasonable portion of a tricky food! May I ask how many pieces that wound up being? I have problems with pizza, as it can...

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Hi, MaggieMae,
You are entitled to overdo it on those early S days, as the feeling of being overfull can help to make you want to avoid excess in the long run.
You're doing a great job!

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Hi IKeeptrying- Welcome! Sorry to hear about the tough time with your mom. Glad the situation is getting easier. Just build up your N day habits, allowing that there will be occasional failures while you get the habits down and be easy on yourself after that happens. Keep plodding on, and you'll be ...

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tacodiscos wrote:This is why I picked this day to be an s day in advance.

Proactive choosing of S days can be a very wise thing!!

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Hi Linda, Thanks for stopping by my check-in. It's good to see you around these parts again. I'll bet you get at least a pound loss when that time of the month is past! I'm sure you'll have a great time in Hawaii! (I'm jealous.) It's a good chance to practice moderate vacation eating- something I su...

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Wow, Allisonmeg, that's great! I find it sooo hard to waste food that's already been paid for, that doesn't keep well for leftovers. I don't have kids, but I'm sure that would be a temptation if I did. As you say, though, that is treating oneself "like a human garbage disposal", and there is no bene...

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Sounds like it could almost qualify as a virtual plate of supper, but probably best to mark it red and move on. (I guess the hot chocolate was probably a sweet.)

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Thanks gingerpie! Feeling ready to get back to the NoS habits today. I think it was wise to take a NWS day yesterday. After 2 failures, it felt good to enjoy good meals and extras with no restrictions or shame. Today my head is in a much better place, and I am also not being exposed to free snacks a...

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Hi Allisonmeg- Well done! I think you are doing great. You have some big obstacles to overcome based on your past habits, and you are really overcoming. Stick to the basics of NoS and don't try to fix everything else at once. It's super that you hung on yesterday, and I am rooting for you today!

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Ugh, the November challenge hasn't been working for me! So far, I have 2 red days. Oh, well, will try to do well from here on out. I will take tomorrow as a NWS day to eat freely at a friend's house for dinner. I think the only other NWS day this month will perhaps be American Thanksgiving Day. Hi g...

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A funny victory for me- I have started to make my favorite potato chips part of my meals. It might increase the percent of unhealthy food I'm taking in, but it's a milestone for me, as this is normally a binge or red day food. To have it as part of a meal is the sort of habit I would like to cultiva...

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Hi, Allisonmeg- Yeah, the occasional out of control S day doesn't do as much long term damage as one might think! In fact it might do some good. Framed between a sane S day and an N day, the excess is highlighted and it is shown for what it is- not all that enjoyable!

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I'll try it your way, RAWCOOKIE!

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Wow, crossthebreeze, congratulations on the 4.8kg weight loss and the gold in personal olympics on NoS. That's great. Sounds like you have a good plan for next month. I wish you continued success!!

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Thanks for stopping by, gingerpie! The meal last Sunday evening was adequate. It turned out the tween daughter made dinner- it wasn't the best pasta dish I'd ever eaten but there was a big pot of it. The tween son is one I've mentioned before, whose mom says he is a bottomless pit. He and I dug in f...

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Hi crossthebreeze- Sounds great! Congratulations on 1 month of NoS habit! I hope you see some nice metrics to go with your habits, but even if not, I trust the feeling of moderation will be worth your efforts!

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Today was a success . I think largely because I just wasn't in the mood to feel icky either physically or psychologically. Hi, gingerpie- That sounds right on! Avoiding feeling icky is great motivation to stay on habit, and seems like one of the most "real" reasons to stick to it! We deserve not to...

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Hi RAWCOOKIE- I'm so glad you thoroughly enjoyed your special S meal. That sounds like it was an amazing spread! Also, it's great that you're finding yourself satisfied with less food! (I hope that will happen for me at some stage. I think I hit a point where I am physically satisfied, but not so mu...

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Hi candiceena- I think the idea of packing less food next time is good! Maybe try 75% of that lunch size and see if that is enough for you. Another thing is maybe try eating more slowly. I know if I shovel food down, which I am very likely to do, as it's my favorite way to eat(!), I get full fast bu...

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It's nice to have S days. I had seconds of a very un-authentic but yummy curry over rice, and a square of banana cake at my friend's house last night. This evening I've been invited to a family's house for "dinner and an episode of Junkyard Wars", about which I know nothing. This is one of the natur...

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The week went pretty well. I did have 1 fail on Tues night, when I went to an evening meeting and hadn't eaten supper beforehand. I fell prey to some not great factory made cookies that were set out at the meeting, and a cup of tea. Oh, well. Lunches have been sort of heavy, but 1 plate, and breakfa...

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Hi Linda, Wow, I had no idea! That's pretty cool that you've been around since 2007. I'm glad it's just a break... I guess people often mention a break and then don't surface again, so thought I'd get my 2 cents in while you're "still reading", but I'm glad you don't plan on disappearing. Funny, you...

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Hi Linda, I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling the forum isn't giving you the feedback/interaction that you need. I've noticed on this forum as well as other supportive food/eating related forums that there is kind of an eb and flow of members. Especially noteworthy, is that when a friendship huddl...

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Sounds like you're doing really well, RAWCOOKIE. Have a great time at the dinner party!

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A fine day, took the "Sometimes" out, and just had my 3 meals. Went for an evening walk, as I have been doing for most of the week, and I like that habit. For the next 2 weeks I'll be working with a team in an office, and will likely be exposed to some temptation along the line of sweets or snacks, ...

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Hi minimizer- I hate to see you go! I'd recommend, if you're open to the idea, of counting points while maintaining the 3 meal per day structure... then you could slide seamlessly back into NoS for maintenance if you choose to.
I hope you can achieve your goals and will rejoin us again soon!

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I had my 3 meals today, so it was a successful trade of S/N days Fri/Sat this week. We had a 19 hour power outage, so there is some food in the fridge that is on shaky ground. I'm glad at times like this that I keep a nearly vegan kitchen at my home. The powdered milk is an big exception to the vega...

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Hi oolala-
Sounds great! I'm glad you're finding your exercise mojo. I'll bet that will help with giving you a better appetite and increasing your calorie needs... general feeling of well-being, too! I wish I'd do more, or more consistently, myself.

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Welcome, bighairdontcare! Here's to the next 21 days of success!

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Thanks, Linda. S Day... B: instant coffee w/milk powder, choc-banana protein powder "shake", peanuts, few stale macadamia nuts (blek) L: burger, fries, ketchup/special sauce, sm choco-brownie ice cream cone Snack: 1 bread stick, potato chips, rose-hip tea S: sm bag potato chips I am making today an ...

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I went to a pot-luck dinner last night. It felt a bit odd serving myself a plate rather than just getting a little bit and then coming back to more.. Hi crossthebreeze- I'm glad things are going so well for you! I have that situation with pot lucks often. It's kind of expected that you take a littl...

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B: instant coffee w/powdered milk, peanuts, choc-banana protein powder "shake" L: black beans, white Jasmine rice, bok choy/red pepper/mushrooms, peanuts, green tea S: salmon salad w/mayo, quinoa, grated carrots, 1/2 grapefruit, 5 prunes Well, this was kind of a hungry/fidgety day, but I have closed...

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However on a positive note, I've NOT gone nuts with this and started eating everything in sight!! Hi, Allisonmeg- That sounds like kind of a worthy fail, mmmm, a big slice of homemade bread with butter! Great that you stopped there and declaired it a limiteded Red day. It might be worth trying to s...

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Welcome nosfellow- I wish you well as you move from lurker to participant. I think you'll enjoy being part of this community!

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Today was fine (Green). I had lunch on one of the large new plates, and supper was potato chips and barley bread sticks, but it was one plate's worth. I won't win any nutrition awards for today. Yesterday was a little bit better, but the 1/2 club sandwich I had for supper with a few fries and pita t...

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Hi Linda, Thanks for stopping by. The issue is partially financial, and partly just a matter of labor. Everything here has to be made from scratch, cleanup is hand-washing dishes, etc. So when you think of supplying 3 meals for the family plus whatever for guests, it is a lot of work. Thus people se...

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Hi ooolala- Hope you're over your cold by now. Mine dragged on, but wasn't so intense that I had to miss any work, and for that I'm thankful. (Glad mine's over now!) I haven't had too much luck just using up my stores so far, but am going to try to start today! Pretty much business as usual most day...

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Hi oolala- Every time I have posted anything for the past week or so, it has told me the site wasn't available. Then when I checked, it had indeed posted. So I have been checking back to the site to see if mine posted before reposting. I don't know what is causing that, but the error is in the messa...

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Hi natj- Sorry to hear about your back problems! I can identify with with that misery, as I've had that type of trouble before. Bear in mind that the pain and meds can make you feel really awful emotionally, and it's easy to lose perspective when you're stuck in bed or on the couch. In all likelihoo...

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Hi, ceo418- Wow, you have a lot of self discipline, if just putting a cover on a bowl of candy keeps you out of it. For me, I really have to keep candy out of the house, or it just magically gets eaten!

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Hi, Imogen- Glad you had a good vacation and found weight maintenance to be relatively pain free! Your Fri/Sun S days idea sounds interesting. Maybe that would give you the chance to make the 3 plates on Saturday really count by preparing something special for your meals, to make the day extra enjoy...

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Sorry to read of your slow cooker woes! I can relate... it sometimes makes just too darn much. I often try to freeze things and come back to it when I can face it again, maybe serve it over a different starch, etc. You'll get the hang of it, don't give up. Slow cookers can be so helpful.

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I feel like oh yeah I'm one of those super healthy, skinny hip yoga chics that carry designer bags, drink green smoothies for breakfast and eat salads for lunch. That's when I get in that zone of feeling like I got this, this is who I am. :D Linda- I love the imagery! I tell myself something simila...

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Hi Laura,
Welcome back. I bet that getting the habits of 3 meals/day and accommodating your real dietary restrictions will set you on a good path. There is no shame in coming back- it's a good decision that many of us make several times!

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Hi Linda,
Wow, congratulations on passing the 40# mark!! That's fantastic!

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Hi r.jean- Yeah, the odd heavy S day is a good reminder that the "sometimes" clause and the "don't be an idiot" advice are right on. I'm sure you'll learn the lesson and move on to lighter, happier S days!

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Nothing much new here. I am eating my regular meals, no sweets. Because there is too much restaurant food involved, I am eating too heavy plates and feel like I might be gaining a little bit of weight. The only milk for coffee here is whole. (The only bread here is white, etc.) I will be back to whe...

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Welcome, candiceena!
Is that the burn fat/feed muscle diet? I'm not familiar with it. Is it low carb? Most things combine well with NoS, I wish you luck.

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I will be tempted to have a blow out & undo all the good work I do during the week, so any tips and advice are very welcome! Hi, SingingShaz and welcome! My tip would be not to look at it that way. You are establishing habit, you are not "undoing" anything, at the beginning. If you establish habit ...

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Doing OK here... had a small breakfast and a too big lunch (restaurant portion of things that don't reheat well for taking home). Thinking about skipping supper as I did last night. I haven't been able to find the usual whole wheat bread that used to be available here. I really prefer it to the whil...

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Hi Linda, Sorry you had to go through that. Did they do the "keyhole" surgery? I understand that puts less stress on the body. Seems like there is a connection between weight loss and gall stones... something about the liver adding cholesterol to the bile when we lose weight, and that forms stones. ...

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Thanks Linda! Yesterday I took some allergy medicine (given to me from the pharmacy, I didn't know exactly what it was) because my cold was bothering me so much. It gave me really bad dreams, but my nose is getting break from running constantly. S day- Skipped breakfast and had a whole "small" mushr...

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Well, I still feel miserable, but my appetite is a little bit better. Had a pasta dish for lunch, and am getting hungry for supper (5:30 pm). One more work day and then the weekend, yay! I don't have any S's particularly planned, but look forward to some rest.

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Hi oolala- Yeah, the whole issue of having house workers is controversial. I am among those who aren't so sure it helps the local economy all that much. The main reason I don't have one, is that I love my privacy and hate to have someone rustling around in my space if I can help it. Second to that, ...

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Hi Mitchelll,
It's great to hear that things are going so well for you. Sounds like you have really embraced the NoS habits and are adding other good habits in as well. Good for you! (Keep setting the good example!)

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All went well with trip to the other location for work. So far I have been more undereating than overeating.
I couldn't find a good breakfast place open this morning, so am drinking milky coffee. Hope to get a good lunch later.

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I would eat fast food midway through the day and then be starving and need another meal. Hi Lesley, and Welcome! I am one of those people who also find that a fast food meal is not satisfying, even when the calories for the 1 fast food meal would be close to what I need for the whole day. In my opi...

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Hi Linda, Yeah the power outages- for sure, some times are much, much better than others. But it seems like there is no discernible pattern to it. It may have something to do with water levels somewhere, as I think we're on hydro-electric. But when we have heavy rains that doesn't lead to better ser...

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B: decaf Ricofi w/milk, peanuts, cashews, sm sardines on toast L: chic pea stew, zucchini, flat bread, 1 raw carrot, decaf coffee w/milk, 5 dates, 2 sesame balls (Sugar is 4th ingredient, only 6g sugar per piece. It is slightly sweet but not "A Sweet".) S: cup of soup Power was out this afternoon an...

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Hi Linda,
Sorry you're not feeling well. Hopefully all will resolve over the weekend.
Hope you can get some good rest! (And that the scales is good to you tomorrow.)

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B: decaf coffee w/milk, peanuts, chic pea stew, flat bread L: onion leek soup, 2 white rolls (one w/butter), slaw, "creme caramel" pudding S: sardines on white toast, cashews One of those incidental red days. I ate at a friend's house and the lunch was really light! The only protein at all was in th...

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B: decaf coffee w/milk, peanuts, white toast w/peanut butter, cucumber/tomato salad Late lunch: chic pea/onion stew, zucchini, flat bread, decaf coffee w/milk, cashews Was stuck in an airline office over lunch time, so ate really late. Not time for another meal, though I could probably eat one if I ...

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fifacoins11 seems to have 5 new posts!

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Kathleen wrote:I'm taking an interim approach that sounds like No S. I'm going to try weekday No S (no snacks, no sweets, no seconds) when I am on the rumble strip.

Sounds really great, Kathleen. Hope that works very well for you. I like your "rumble strip" idea.

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Hi Linda, Thanks. The "taking everything in stride" thing seems to come with living overseas for a while. I've seen most people develop that way, or burn out and have to go home before accomplishing whatever they came to do. (A few spouses stay and just become bitter, and that seems like the worst!)...

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B: reg coffee w/creamer, peanuts &pecans, leftovers, sm pasta
L: soup, inst mashed potatoes, decaf spiced tea, 5 dates
S: peanuts
A housemate who I don't particularly get along with is back in town... that can sometimes keep me out of the kitchen, which is not always a bad thing.

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Hi Jess- You're not alone in finding bread, corn and sugar to be problematic. The OA diet I was on for a while recommended avoiding them (among other things) as they can set off binges and contribute to the insulin surge that can leave a person feeling like more carbs are needed, and then it's an en...

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Thanks, Linda! (Saturday, Capitol S day) B: decaf coffee w/milk, peanuts Lupper: spicy braised beef, mixed offal, collard greens, 1 egg, millet, 1/2 cupcake, few bite-sized candy chunks, 2 slices bread, popcorn, 1/2 glass sparkling grape juice, 2 demitasse coffee w/sugar (Sunday) B: decaf coffee w/m...

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Hi RAWCOOKIE
Hope it's good news from your home scales on Wednesday. I think it's great that you keep your S days on Saturdays and Sundays instead of shifting them around to match your days off. It seems to me that what you are doing ultimately makes more sense and gives greater consistency.

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B: decaf coffee w/milk, peanuts, fish, chic peas, rice
L: decaf coffee w/Bailey's, pecans, beans, inst mashed potato
S: rice noodle peanut veggie soup, cucumber/tomato salad

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Hi xara- Welcome to the NoS boards and thanks for posting! I think your plates and bowls sound delightful, and well in keeping with the spirit of NoS. Anything we can do to increase the enjoyment our meals seems to be on the right track to well balanced moderate eating. I have found this thread so i...

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Hi, natj- That sounds really good! I think food was meant to be enjoyed, and if we don't enjoy what we eat, I don't think we really have a sustainable system going! For me, it has been helpful to learn what I truly enjoy (or not) and the difference between that and "highly palatable food", ie. food ...

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It would be a sweet for me! I know it goes against the convenience thing, but it might make a nice S day treat.

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(Tuesday) B: decaf coffee w/creamer, peanuts, potato chips L: rice noodles, Asian veggie soup (w/zucchini, carrot, onion, TVP), cucumber/tomato salad, chips, peanuts S: baked beans, inst mashed potatos, tomato, mushroom I'll call today RED, as I had seconds of the soup at lunch. It was super light a...

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Hi Ericj313, Welcome! You're not alone in that. Often it calms down- maybe give it a little bit more time, and notice how bad you feel physically and emotionally after a binge evening and it may self correct with that feedback. If not, you could make S days something like "I will have one (sweet or ...

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B: decaf coffee w/creamer, peanuts, baked beans, oven fries, tomato, mushroom L: pecans, tuna salad on pasta, 5 dates, herbal tea S: fish, chic peas, rice Just kind of an unremarkable eating day, but the food was satisfying. I guess I could stand to get some more fresh fruit and vegetables, but it's...

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Yay, joasia, good for you! Congratulations on your success. An 80# loss is really fantastic! Feel free to post something on the testimonials board. I'd love to hear more about how it worked for you, and I'm sure it would encourage others, too! Edited to say- Oh, OK, I see you over there on the Gener...

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Hi Linda- Yes, your body will probably cast the deciding vote. No harm in trying to give it a nudge to get to the weight you think would be healthiest for you, but yeah, bodies have a way of winning out. If it meant eating as you are now, to maintain the weight goal you set would you be willing to d...

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Hi gingerpie, Thanks for checking in with the quiet voice of reason. I like your idea of low-key obstinance. That sounds reasonable to me. I think I need to practice it more. Things have gone well lately, as I haven't had much food related social interaction. I was really proud of myself on Saturday...

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I should concentrate on an area of intense interest and have people come to me for my expertise. Well, oolala, I know you can't quit your day job for this, but it sounds like you have really found the right place here at NoS. I know I am among many people who really appreciate your sharing here! (T...

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Hi Linda- Wow, I wish I could stop by for some pizza, especially the artichoke w/pesto! Do you have a brick oven, or do you have some way to do that on a grill? Sounds like you've had some fun social occasions lately, which have involved food. We're social creatures and part of that is eating togeth...

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The main reason the women DON'T want to lose weight? They are afraid their husbands won't be attracted to them anymore! Hi oolala, I read a humorous piece a while back about young guys in the culture, who were trying to be cool and pretend to be attracted to thin women, but really deep down wanted ...

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Hi oolala- I bet there are some similarities between here and Iran... both being more "traditional societies". One IS encouraged to eat a lot, and the being overweight is a mixed bag... traditional ladies prefer to be heavier and modern ladies prefer to follow the more worldwide fashion standard to ...

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Nice to see you Bright Angel!
Thanks for the info- it's still free today, I downloaded and look forward to reading it!
(Sorry to hijack the thread!)

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I suppose the notion that we have to accept everything that is offered to us came from a time when folks didn't have much to offer. Consequently, they were making a real sacrifice by sharing/offering us a gift of food Thanks gingerpie! I really appreciate your stopping by with wisdom and support. F...

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Hi sophiasapientia- Your meals all sound yummy. Where do you get your Pumpkin spice doughnuts?
Glad you some good news after a long medical ordeal. Hope NoS continues to go well for you. You seem to stick to the program seemingly effortlessly!

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Nice, moderate S day. I think my new mindset is right on target. Hi Linda- Good on you for thinking through different possiblilites and scenarios. It is all part of the process, isn't it? I've changed gears so many times on NoS over these 5 years, and am so glad the basic structure allows for it. B...

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B: decaf coffee w/creamer, peanuts, ~1/4c pudding L:potluck: "lasagna", chili thing, salad w/walnuts, scalloped potatoes, sm potato soup, beef, corn casserole, 1/4 pita bread, "dessert"= popcorn, mango/papaya S: instant decaf coffee w/creamer, pistachios, glass noodles, fish, veggies, 5 dates NoS ha...

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Hi escahno! How is it going?
I trust you are busy and NoS-ing just fine. I miss seeing you around here!

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I'm reactivating this thread because I need some accountability and perhaps if anyone is giving any, some support. I didn't do too badly while traveling recently, about generally avoiding sugar, and when I did indulge, it was OK, as I knew there would be social occasions where I didn't want to "miss...

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Hi MizCorbie, and welcome! I trust you will find NoS to be a good way of eating to be able to enjoy your favorite foods without obsessing about eating, and to get to a weight that is best for you. Feel free to join us over in the check in threads, and start your own, if you would like to stop by mor...

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Hi Linda- Thanks for stopping by. I use the https://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/HackDiet site. It's free and I just type in my weight on every day that I weigh in. I love generally reading over the Hacker's Diet stuff, too. It's more calorie counting oriented than NoS, but it's written in a fun way and...

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Hi minkalue- Welcome! What you say makes a lot of sense. I have found that NoS is really sane and a good way to eat in a "normal" way, which most diet fail to do. I have had my stretches of giving up for whatever reason, and have also combined NoS with other diet tricks (with variable success) but t...

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leafy_greens wrote:What were her criticisms? Just curious.

It's a pretty well thought out critique:
http://www.bitterpoison.com/archive/the-no-s-diet/

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Well, my weight seems to have taken a turn for the better as shown on my rolling averages chart. So... I gained a total of 6# on my 5 week trip away, and have lost 3# since my return (the past 2 weeks). That is good to see, that the loss is going at about the same rate as the gain came. It is not al...

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There are 3 fishy looking replies to the thread
http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=9622

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I was so hungry today between lunch and dinner. I know it's because I'm trying to keep my portion sizes down. It occurred to me that there's going to a bit of suffering when losing weight no matter how you slice it. Hi Linda, I'm with you! This has been a hungry week for me, too. I am trying to kee...

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I realize that part of being satisfied with 3 plates of food for me, is including something crunchy. It matters not whether that is peanuts or raw carrots. The problem is that it's easy to reach into a bag of peanuts, but not so easy to have grated carrot or carrot sticks readily available. So, I am...

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RAWCOOKIE wrote:Felt remorseful afterwards - but, in true No S style, on the walk home I thought 'right, mark it down as a FAIL and move on!"

That is the way that we roll! Well done for keeping perspective!

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