Everyday Systems

lbb (Liz)

Glad to see you back, Sinnie. I know how it can being super busy. I'm sorry you're failing regularly. It sounds like you made yesterday's "fail" into a positive thing. And I"m telling you, Sinnie....I'm definitely a "rule follower" and stuff, but the average person wouldn't consider a donut once in ...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, gals! Brianna: Such a wise post. I appreciate it truly. I already feel on track today. It's funny. If I don't "mourn" and "get mad at myself" enough, I almost feel like I "allowed" my fail. But that's silly. Moving on.... I'm still having my S's and with your and KL's great reasons: otherwis...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks for those great quotes. Starting a little book I'll add my favorite quotes.
Good luck this weekend!
Liz

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, dearest NoSnacker.
Very wise about the thought that I was deprived (why can other normal people have a bite or two of a blondie/brownie and I can't!??! wa wa).
And so I kinda rebelled later that night.

Red. Moved on.

S days will remain. And be tame, hopefully.

Gracias

lbb (Liz)

Agreed, reneew about the eating an hour between a meal. It bugs so bad!
You have your hands full with 4 in the teen-ish age!! Amazing!

lbb (Liz)

Okay my friends thanks for the kind words. And for that great quote about waste! SOOOO TRUE and such a thing to remember. I tell my husband that lots b/c he calls himself the "human disposal". But wasted in the waste can or in my body! Same thing! :? Will you still love me because I had a fail last ...

lbb (Liz)

Amy I'll just look to you 10 years down the road (mine are only 7.5, 5.5., 2.5)!!
It's already a feeding frenzy! I better save up the $$ for the future grocery runs!

lbb (Liz)

I totally relate, snapdragon. Like totally. I admire and also love your feeding everyone from scratch! I try to do that most times. But baking I've put on hold for a tad until weekends. It's so hard though. I have three growing boys and feeding them is a chore in and of itself. I can't imagine how i...

lbb (Liz)

Julie:
I'm happy for you that you have found what works for you.
That sounds like a delightful S day sans mindless eating.
What I strive for are more days like those...enjoyed homemade goodness and no snacking.
Take care.

lbb (Liz)

That's the perfect emoticon for the "strict and serious"

Love it. This is a good testament to not getting too confident and to REALLY nail down N days as habit before messing with mods, or giving up entirely.

Thanks for the reminder, reneew.

lbb (Liz)

SkyKitty: Welcome back! What a neat trip. I did a study abroad in Israel in college and LOVED it. You're right: they eat a fair amount of healthy fare and definitely not the burgers/fries combo like over here in the US! I love that your "no mindless eating" worked within boundaries for you. That jus...

lbb (Liz)

Great reply, oolala. Get back into the three meals compliance as soon as possible. When you get red-streaking, it's so much easier to keep that up. One amazing thing about No-S is all the emotional stuff it brings to the surface. It reminds me when I was in an eating disorder clinic 12 years ago...m...

lbb (Liz)

I'm sorry about your cramps today.

Glad you listened to yourself and ate lightly. That's very intuitive!
Take care.

lbb (Liz)

Hooray! What an inspiring story!
Thanks for the encouragement!

lbb (Liz)

Good N day. Not easy peasy, but I still managed! I saw myself about 8pm, as I was still tucking boys into bed, yet not having eaten dinner (I have a hard time just rushing to eat when I have to be "on board" with the kids solo). I was impatient and stressed while practicing piano with my son. Our wi...

lbb (Liz)

Great job.
Hey, if the apple keeps you away from a red, so be it!

Keep up the positivity and good job staying away from the wine till the weekend!
xo

lbb (Liz)

Why are you around food constantly?

I'm sorry it's so rough. You CAN stick to this.

Whether you think you can or think you can't, either way, you're right....

We're here for ya.

lbb (Liz)

Like you said, "do your best and strive for patience with yourself."!
Great realization. And good job not putting on your "diet head" after indulging. It will ALWAYS come back to bit ya!
the 3 meals will help set you up for the rest of the week!
take care, Liz

lbb (Liz)

r.jean: I like your reason and simplicity.
Make a rule, stick to it, move on.
I'm over an over-complicator, but No S really is so simple and true and great.
Good luck. You can do this. Just draw a fence around the law!
xo, liz

lbb (Liz)

I agree with others "if it isn't broken, don't fix." However, as said, if you feel weak and not able to concentrate, but still no tummy rumbling, then eat! It's great you are in touch with your body. I know for me, I enjoy eating so much that it's hard to wait it out that long... But I think that co...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks for the comments. TRULY great people here and well-appreciated. Great N day, actually. NOSnacker: isn't it strange how over-abundance makes us then MORE hungry later. our tummies get used to more food, i guess? It was such a BUSY and active day, that food was really just food today. But I did...

lbb (Liz)

Yes but it sounds like you enjoyed them.
I prob would have done the same.

It's hard when people bring stuff. I want to try it out!
Maybe if there had only been about 2-3 around...to eat?

Easier said than done!

lbb (Liz)

You ARE on the right path! THis is for life!
I feel like, "okay when is this "gig" gonna get old?"
And it doesn't. I actually enjoy this way of life, so it will last!

Great work on the 10K! That's awesome. And your pasta sounds fantastic!

Keep it up. Here to support!

lbb (Liz)

"At least with eating 3 meals, I can have the structure and confidence that I don't necessarily feel in my head and heart concerning all the other stuff." Love that thought! Making life easier to live with the structure of NoS! Take care and good luck wading through all this job stuff. Real world! N...

lbb (Liz)

yikes, "moderation diets"? i wish the doc had said another word....

i'm sorry your sunday wasn't awesome, but you did a few good positive things in throwing out the rest of the chips and freezing the majority of the cupcakes.

21 days baby! i'm starting another round today!

let's do it!
liz

lbb (Liz)

Today wasn't quite what I planned, but not awful either. Just wish I had enjoyed my meals more...? Maybe the reason I go hog-wild a tad today was because the way I compulsively eat "DOES" something for me (no duh?) and I kinda relax knowing I don't have to plate something, sit and enjoy it and not h...

lbb (Liz)

I totally understand and think we all do. You nailed it when you said you're more upset that you can be compliant and easily so throughout the week, but go crazy on sat/sun. I think it's the "oh it's an S day, so I better make the best of it." Though I'm far from good S days (I didn't have stellar o...

lbb (Liz)

Yes! Stay off the scale. Just think, "if the number is low or high, will it really help me out?".
Easier said, than done, I know.
Curiosity gets the best of us!
Take care and enjoy your day!
xo, liz

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, NOSnacker! So far, so good. I said I wouldn't use Sat/Sun as S days, and yesterday was a more tame day than in the past, but unusual due to traveling and not having followed N days all week. I wasn't DYING for treats, but did have a few. Sat: B: oats L: leftover chicken salad S's: half a sug...

lbb (Liz)

oh i so relate to your post and could have written it myself! i'm proud of you for just stopping. i have done the same thing...opening up all the floodgates just because it's an S day and not really enjoying one thing necessarily. craving those 3 squares. the order. the anticipation and enjoyment of...

lbb (Liz)

I'm calling this whole vacation week a "wash". I'm proud I didn't "binge" yesterday, but did enjoy treats again with the family. And I'll take a red, planning on just getting back into N on Monday. We fly home today and I am technically not fully going "S" with today and Sunday. I will allow myself ...

lbb (Liz)

What a fantastic re-cap! You should print this up in times of dire need! I like what you said about focusing on the good habits you HAVE acquired. Good job on replacing the potatoes for veggies... I LOVE M&M pretzels. But man they are a binge food for me (I could eat an entire huge bag). Enjoy them!...

lbb (Liz)

gk: Thanks for the message! I'm so sorry you also battled eating disorders in your past. Yes, those troubling times as a teenager made me cope with controlling food! I have since learned (as I"m sure you have!) that it may never DISAPPEAR, but oh my it can get so much better. There are times I'm tot...

lbb (Liz)

YIPPEEE!!!
You can do this.
I'm so glad you fully detailed and described your feelings as we all understand.
And def no judgment on buying a "king size". Those are def my favorites.
I get it.
I'm so proud of you!
Keep it up!

lbb (Liz)

Hi nosnacker... Thanks for your message. I have mainly struggled with disordered eating since 13....anorexia, bulimia, binge eating. My weight has varies between 100 (anorexia) to 150 (major binge eating). Now I'm probably as healthy as I've ever been but there is still the chip in my brain that has...

lbb (Liz)

Good for you, KL.
"Living life between meals." That's great and "eating to LIVE" not "living to EAT".
Hope all is well for you.
Enjoy the weekend!

lbb (Liz)

Way to go, NoSnacker!
This is a great reminder about the WHY we are doing this. I think I could benefit from doing "reasons", too.
And it's good to remember the feelings we get from successes, as you're right, the fails stand out so much more in our head!
Have a great Friday and TGIF!

lbb (Liz)

Yes I agree and sometimes my "advice" is more for myself than someone else. It's HARD. In fact, I was guilty last night of tallying up my calories (out of curiosity) and being utterly sick about how many I had eaten that day. AH! But, I have hope it will all even out...? Keep it up. We're here to su...

lbb (Liz)

Go on a walk!
You can do this. Get distracted and soon enough you will sit down to pizza and be "done" with the temptations.
Almost Saturday!

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, NoSnacker. Yes, the "no solitary snacking" kind of takes away the ability to USE food for me. Since I'm doing NO S not necessarily to lose weight (though a few pounds to get back to pre-baby would be great), it's moreso to "re-set" my food obsession/controlling brain, I am okay with a treat ...

lbb (Liz)

Congrats on your success, Sinnie! You're right about mind-power. You can "feel" it if it's going to be a success.
Great job on plating your food, too. Virtual plating gets tricky because it's also hard to feel satisfied when you're not seeing the "empty plate".
Keep it up!

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, gals. Had an enjoyable afternoon of shopping alone and normally, I would have thought, "oh I already broke the bank....so....". And would have bought treats while I shopped (an old habit)...fro yo/mall stuff. But I didn't. Got a few summer-ish things I was looking for and picked up dinner fo...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, NoSnacker. I am still on va-cay at the beach with my lil' fam until Saturday. So it's tough I must admit, esp. since every other sentence muttered is, "who cares...it's vacation!". (On whether the boys are up too late, whether our car is too sandy, etc. etc.). So, you can imagine when after ...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, Sinnie. Yesterday was a GREEN N DAY! (even after the S weekend and two REDS!). It's So hard to get back that N, but I did. Esp. on va-cay. We even went out for ice cream and I withheld. I didn't feel left out mainly because the last few days I've been "on board" so much anyways, that I just ...

lbb (Liz)

Good for you, KL!
That potluck sounds wonderful and it would have been a hard time to not go over-board. Great job distracting yourself, too.
You're doing awesome!

lbb (Liz)

I echo all that No Snacker says. You can do this and please don't get discouraged. It IS hard in the real world living No S, but the easiest by far to maintain and to do "normally". I have run the gamut on Protein diets. The thing is: you're right. You can lose pretty quickly. But then you go out wi...

lbb (Liz)

Hip Hip!!!
Way to go.
You're right about changing things up sometimes and getting out of your "dinner rut".
SOUNDS YUMMY, that pizza!

lbb (Liz)

Sorry about last night. Sounds like you have lots of stressful things going on right now and when you get home it's nice to "decompress"/tune-out with food. Though I'm sure in the morning it only adds to your stressors. Yesterday I white-knuckled the hours between 7-10pm to make myself have an "N" d...

lbb (Liz)

DEB! Thank you so much for your thoughtful post. This morning, hungover as I feel, I am grateful and hopeful for a new day ahead. I will "mark it and move on" with 2 reds the past couple days. Jump into Vanilla No S, no mods, because alas Saturday is soon enough if I want a cookie and/or cupcake. I ...

lbb (Liz)

I'm sorry I also relate to having 2 reds off the weekend. On Spring break too with my kids and it's tough when you're in "vacation mode". At first I was instilling the mods of 3 meals/day and a treat at night. But that has now lead to more treats than desired...and binges. So I am instilling "Vanill...

lbb (Liz)

I'm SOOOOO happy for you and I'm reading this at such the perfect time as I have a few days left of my vacation to realign myself in the eating department. Because regardless of what you think, it DOES over-shadow what would be the PERFECT vacation when you are constantly bogged down with sugar or t...

lbb (Liz)

yes yes yes sooooo relate to the "finishing up" and "not wasting" stuff. especially homemade yumminess! i feel like sometimes i'm doing everyone a favor by finishing something, even if i don't want it. what!?!??! i have learned (at home) that i am not in a position to bake unless it's an S day. i'm ...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, guys. "Being driven by knife point by an unknown force, and then finally after having eaten, feeling the release of not having to battle the compulsion anymore."...KL! That totally explains my hours earlier...actually and toward the end of the day. YIKES! It's like the anticipation of all of...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, Sinnie & KL: Perfect timing for the "boost" as I got out of hand in the last couple hours...yikes! It was kinda like an 'outer body' experience and I experienced such familiar feelings from times past... I take full responsiblity, but do notice when I'm in the home with my Mom, my disordered...

lbb (Liz)

Monday On vacation so it felt a little more like an S day, but oh well. Exercised a lot. Had 3 meals. 2 desserts. B: oats L: chicken wrap from a cafe (eaten on the beach which makes anything taste much bettter!) D: thai lettuce chicken wraps from cheesecake factory and i snitched the pizza crusts fr...

lbb (Liz)

GREAT, SInnie!
Glad you're back in the swing of things!
liz

lbb (Liz)

Hey, Sinnie. I hope your Sunday turned out okay. And I'm sorry you had a rough go earlier this weekend. I definitely relate to having too many options and plans changing...not quite knowing what to do with oneself!
Don't look back and jump into vanilla No-S today!
Good luck.

lbb (Liz)

Thanks sweetness! Today was delightful and so was the food. The ultimate in enjoyment. Though I ate quite a bit, I have no regrets as it was wonderful. After church, we ate brunch at a yummy place called plums. I ordered this organic chicken peanut cabbage salad. It sounded good and was. My boys all...

lbb (Liz)

You go girl! Looking forward to the day when I can have ONE square of chocolate and call it good!
Great job!

lbb (Liz)

Thank you Sinnie and NoSnacker! I said I wouldn't check in, but it's kinda part of my routine to do some "morning work" on the computer before all people wake! Just a run-down of my S-day, and what I learned. It wasn't worse than last week, so that's good! But I still ate a fair amount. I'm grateful...

lbb (Liz)

"IT IS SO NOT WORTH IT and DOES NOTHING FOR ME ANYMORE". I love what you said. This is so true as I was SO close to "using" food last night to zone out. It wouldn't have been worth it. Feel so much better this morn. No regrets, moving on. If we could all remember that at crucial times! Take care and...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks!!! I am waking up today light and hungry but not sick or regretful!
Have a great weekend yourself!
Enjoy....

lbb (Liz)

Okay I must go to bed NOW because the urge to open the chocolate bar saved for tomorrow is huge. I am overwhelmed with packing, laundry, and it's been a busy day. And to top it off, the husband just got called back to the hospital. I thought he'd be able to help out...but who am I kidding? Ah a resi...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks for the input! I think I will do just that. 3 meals with the occasional treat. No stress.

Denise! So great to hear from you! We are going to balboa island Newport beach. Can't wait! I'll wave to temecula a we fly over it!!

take care!

lbb (Liz)

Sorry your soup caused you problems! I hate when something isn't what I thought it would be, but good you went out and got something else. I'm the same way about McD's. I def am "not above" those eat there, but really if you asked me what to order I'd be clueless. I used to go there strictly for bin...

lbb (Liz)

YUM! pasta with ricotta!
Your meals sound amazing and so full of variety!

You've had a few good green days! HOORAY

Enjoy your S weekend and time with your family! (4 kids, right?...amazing!).

Liz

lbb (Liz)

I agree with "NoSnacker". You are an inspiration, oolala. Where can I read your blogs on Spark people? I'm not familiar with that...

I'm sorry you didn't get much sleep the other night. I relate from last night, too and it can DRAIN you. Hopefully you made up for it!

Have a wonderful S weekend!

lbb (Liz)

DEB: thanks for that comment about leaving a little food on the plate. I think that's a great "mind trick" idea to have YOU be in control and say, "i've had enough." Cleaning the plate is a prob for me and I think it makes me say, "I WANT MORE!". Roxie: glad you're doing well! Enjoy your S days! You...

lbb (Liz)

Wow deb you made some great realizations! I think it IS hard to move past the thought that there will ALWAYS be enough. Of food, of anything. I grew up with 8 kids in the family and we were always clamoring for food, hiding it even so it wouldn't be eaten! (My college roommates thought I was weird f...

lbb (Liz)

Great work resisting the donuts.
That is tough business!
Enjoy one tomorrow!

lbb (Liz)

You can do this starting today! When I'm in "the red" it's easier to stay in "the red". But when I'm in "the green" it's a heckuva lot easier to resist/avoid cuz' I want to stay in "the green". So have a green day TODAY (don't look back) and you'll be more prone for another green day again and again...

lbb (Liz)

Once again, you put my meals to shame with all your nummy variety!
Sounds like you are doing well!

Have a great vacation. ENJOY!

lbb (Liz)

Thursday: Green Success! Thursdays are always my toughest, so I'm glad it's over. I'm really grateful for No-S as it has other mental benefits for me that overlap in my life. For instance: yesterday it was my turn to host "co-op" with lots of kids at my house for a good portion of the day. I had so ...

lbb (Liz)

I"m sorry, reneew, but glad you learned to not wait too long. Sometimes I'm not even hungry, but realize "oh okay, I should eat.". It helps in a way to have set eating times. I'm usually at about 8am, 2pm, 7pm. But of course life gets in the way most days! :) Another thing (because I have such low w...

lbb (Liz)

I only felt binge-y after dinner really. That time is already hardest but I didn't feel mentally satisfied and was still a tad hungry. I had worked out pretty hard too so I should have accommodated. Oh well it's morn now, my tummy is rumbling, which isn't a bad thing! And no regrets!

lbb (Liz)

I felt (and am feeling!) the same way, KL.
So eager to still eat, but I should just go to bed!
We can do this!

lbb (Liz)

N day Success Gotta be honest, though. Tempted to "fail" tonight. I have this compulsion (as mrs. practical) to use up every fresh ingredient and to challenge myself to NOT have to go to the store before a trip. We leave Saturday. So, my boys had quesadillas and zucchini and chicken meatballs. Rando...

lbb (Liz)

Roxy I love that podcast. Glad you listened again. I do think sometimes going out is easier than being at home on S days. I know it's not practical, nor in the budget (for us), but it helps to choose EXACTLY what sounds good and to end there. As opposed to sub-par crap in the cupboards, eh? I'm leav...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks, guys. I feel good today and am SOO glad I didn't wake up to the binge bloat/taste. YUCK. Yes, why don't you all come over to enjoy the butternut/pumpkin ravioli? :lol: NoSRocks: I do a little cooking, but last night was out of my league. The time it took to make these was insane. I'm fine bu...

lbb (Liz)

I got home tonight from making homemade pasta (yes, from semolina+egg, to rolling it out, stuffing it with pumpkin and butternut squash, squeezing it together, etc. etc.) at 11:30 p.m. (Appreciate homemade ravioli, people!). I hadn't had lunch (or any food) since 2pm. What? We didn't eat our pasta. ...

lbb (Liz)

YAY for a green N day!
Keep it up. The more you do it, the easier it will get.
Liz

lbb (Liz)

I'm sorry about your mom's health. That doesn't sound good.
Good work on the exercise, though and starting this day out well.
Take care, Liz

lbb (Liz)

I definitely agree with the comments above about knowing yourself and what your typical struggles are, and to plan around that. I often like to think I'm above things that have been hard in the past and I throw myself into the thick of it...making my favorite chocolate chip cookies mid-week on an N ...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks oolala: I'll check out those posts re: the books. Great afternoon reading...!

Thanks for your thoughts on dairy. Yes, I look for satisfaction. Because nothing leaves me jones-ing for more than unfulfilling meals. Flavor comes with a little fat, no?

Thanks for your insight, as always.

lbb (Liz)

Monday Green Success Day I really like eating the same things day to day on N days. I think since I'm letting myself get hungry enough, I just want to be satisfied. Oats breakfast. Gym: stair, elliptical, treadmill with friend Walked kids to school Lunch Spinach, feta, tomatoes, tzatiki Sprouted toa...

lbb (Liz)

You can do this. I know it sounds silly this whole "one plate thing". Sometimes I'm like, "give me a break" and want to rebel. But it's more to build habit. Maybe there will be a time when you can have a couple plates and it will be no big deal. I think it's great to stop weighing yourself. I was a ...

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I think that's a smart move sometimes. It's nice to "re-align" by checking in here or there, especially when support is needed big-time. But I relate to it fueling our food obsessions sometimes. I'm going to finish out my 21 day stint and then take a break. I've needed this blog to get back on my fe...

lbb (Liz)

Yum, KL:
I'm coming to dinner chez vous!
I say this daily, but it would be really easy for me to be a vegetarian.
Probably not vegan.
So (sorry if this is ignorant), but you don't eat dairy/eggs or ANY meat?
What were your purposes, out of curiosity in going vegan?
I'm always curious.
Thanks, Liz

lbb (Liz)

I'm glad you're feeling a bit better today. Just a thought: For me, crackers and an apple wouldn't fill me up till dinner. At all. Maybe they work for you. Do you ever add some protein-full things? (beans, meat, yogurt, cheese, pb). Or even fiber-full veggies. That helps hold me over till dinner. Ju...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks for the reminder about being careful in using the word "addicted". I think I'd prefer to say "I'm USED to......". "I'm USED TO drinking lots of diet soda." "I'm USED TO having lots of helpings of dessert." "I"m USED TO finishing everything off my boys' plates." yadda yadda. I hate the feeling...

lbb (Liz)

Thanks for all your support, KL, oolala, NOSRocks! Today, since there's no way to fail, I guess a success. Oats (though I was NOT hungry). Church Got home around 2pm and started "dinner". We were eating around 3. A little pasta, salad, a roll. Enough. So tempted to have another roll, and finish my b...

lbb (Liz)

We appreciate your check-in, but I understand about the over-thinking. I think I'll take a break for awhile. It can become a new addiction.

The book is key in getting back on track.
But we'll be here cheering you on!

lbb (Liz)

A brilliant post! Don't have time to comment on all that I want to, but I love your honesty and you nailed something about seeing the overall progress you have made over these past few years. Inspiring to alL!

lbb (Liz)

An extremely wild S day. But I will not dwell on it other than to say what I learned from it: In social situations where there is a brunch table, get one plate and done. I like to be all, "oh it's an S day so I'm going to keep eating and eating cuz' I can." But look around, Liz. NO ONE (normal eater...

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Thank you, Ryan for having a wild S day. No just kidding. I'm sorry you did.... I only say "thank you" because you have received a lot of GREAT advice that I will take from! Because I had a wild one too yesterday. Yes oh so wild and will gather these nuggets of wisdom to take me forth as well. You.....

lbb (Liz)

Have an enjoyable day. I, like you, don't feel like breakfast, but will go make my "optimized oats" too because I'm focusing on moderation, good habits, and steadiness. I don't want to leave for church hungry and then when handed some jelly beans....having at it. Your mod sounds good. Good luck with...

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Great work, KL. Glad it was relaxing. Hoping to get to that point here, too!
Happy Easter!

lbb (Liz)

Well sheesh! You got some exercise in! Way to go. I agree with Ann...not like we need to justify to you that you didn't eat a lot, but really, that looks pretty normal to me. I'm not even going to start on my S day, because that would be giving the PAST more power than it deserves. Regardless, it wa...

lbb (Liz)

Same thing over here. Like waaaayyyy more. I feel sick!
Let's have an enjoyable Sunday though!!

lbb (Liz)

Hi! To answer your question (though I have lots to comment on about your interesting findings about yourself!). I went to Vanilla No-S because I had started this habit of HAVING to have a dessert/night. Like a HABIT. And I would't listen to my body. I knew that wasn't normal. It was tough, but it's ...

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