Everyday Systems

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Actually, there are probably a fair number of women who need to eat that little or even less to lose weight. Tough to take, but true. I would probably have to, especially since I have lost weight, so it takes less to sustain me than if I had never lost. (When I looked at BLE, they were saying 1100 c...

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Sorry, in my mind, if I have to use ANY technique, strategy, thought, etc., I call that willpower, and I have accepted that it often takes willpower to implement strategies, esp. at first and sometimes even later. Maybe by willpower, people mean actually thinking/saying, "I WILL?WILL NOT do x, y, or...

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I admit I haven't read every post- it doesn't take long for a lot of posts to accumulate, but I wanted to say hi and welcome. I did see that it seems you made big progress in not too long on the hard candies.(BTW, going through a 5-oz bag fast was nothing for me.) Sorry you have so much to contend w...

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Did my winter 5-day stint. Feeling good about some of the restrictions I'm aiming at. Sound funny? Well, I felt good ten years ago about restricting my snacks, sweets, and seconds. Now refining for new purposes. It's all about being really convinced of the value of the reward and the fairness of the...

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Had been a little worried, but I agree that less posting can be a very good thing. Hugs.

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For any lifestyle change, be clear what you think the advantage[s] will be or what you really want to avoid. Keep the drama out of it. For eating less: In times of difficulty, minimize the discomfort of skipping the food and magnify the benefits of waiting to eat in terms of pleasure and satisfactio...

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Just saying hi. When I first pulled up your thread, it was actually from a year ago and I didn’t realize it till I read several entries, but it does sound like the job stuff and mincemeat pie’s are still having their effects! Warmest wishes for a good year of the systematic moderation.

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Tx, auto! I just added my update to the testimonial section. I wish I could be more glowing, but it is what it is, and it is not in my opinion inviting sedition! I certainly have found nothing better.

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Are you in the Facebook group? Congrats all around.

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Continued success maintaining through the season. A real feat!

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You are just getting going. Keep at it! I can't imagine your being sorry a couple of years from now using it, but I imagine you will be sorry if you don't.

Here's to a green Friday.

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Though the basic structure is the same, it really takes most people more than a few weeks or even months before any real pattern gets established of WHAT is on the plates. And even that can change over the YEARS. I had WILD S days for a couple of years. I just wasn't willing to get tougher before th...

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It's been a little over a month. How is it going?

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The eating situation was difficult for me. I ended up eating a lot less for various reasons, not really fun ones, and even though I did some grazing. My pants got looser in the week, but I have been eating more since back and weigh about the same as before I left. I'm pretty much okay with that, tho...

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Because I continue to have some issues with overeating, even after I all my years here, I did look for quite awhile at BLE. I even got the newsletter with her frequent (daily?) video logs. I felt cruddy just seeing the email in my inbox. I feel much better since I ended my subscription. Which is not...

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I affirm that having done No S before will help with adjusting to years of life after surgery. Best to you and your fiancé!

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HI, gingerpie! Boy, I sure miss the feature that gave us email alerts on threads we were following. I just don't keep up. I have answers for why you don't do what's in your best interest, but it's not original or my own. Because things that are not in long term best interest are often harder than on...

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Hang in there! I think it's an advantage that the season between txgiving and Christmas this year is a little shorter.

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P.Sl, I checked on Amazon for the heck of it. The two highly rated monitors I looked at had several detractors claiming on multiple quick tests done back to back, there were big discrepancies. Hmm.

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I am such a baby that the idea of pricking my fingers a lot is a wet blanket on the monitor idea. I'm not sick or close to it, but I am curious. Do you think a lightweight without a health condition to give me a good reason to suffer pain could benefit?

tx

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Hope the end of November has gone well.

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Just wanted to point out that Reinhard does advocate "keeping track" of success or failure, which is a tenet of habit change, but to do it as undramatically, un-guilt-provokingly as possible. Thus the green/yellow/red system. Brain researcher Stephen Gueyenet, who has studied hunter gatherers quite ...

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Ah, the weight we'd be if there was food available only around meal time, and real meal food, at that. Only thing to do is forgive and resolve to do better.

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I think even people who DO have a problem with eating have a hard time understanding the value of No S. It's all just cultural pressures influenced by so many other interests!

I can't promise to be accountable with you, but I am on your side.

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It seems what we are "sustaining" with snackification is not vitality or joy, yet people cling to this freedom! I say the emphasis on looking at the severe minority who can be impulse-driven without paying a high price is also part of the problem, though they don't go into that. Fair enough. I am fo...

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I am so glad that I enjoyed the food I had on Txgiving but did not feel stuffed at any point in the day. Am feeling pretty good about the next few weeks, though as I'm not even working anymore, have very few social eating events to look forward to. That's a coin with two sides!

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Learning to deal with all kinds of environmental pressures is definitely part of the skill set needed. I have said before that often get inspiration from thinking about my naturally slim nephew-in-law, who rarely gets influenced to eat even one more bite than he wants on his own. I've also seen him ...

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Boy, I have to get on my own train! I haven't had many green days since I posted this. Going to be around a lot of food today. Hope I can be reasonable.

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While on WW, I saw what kind of meals seemed to be the most satisfying and pleasurable. They actually tended to be what others might call diet meals, certainly of less than 500 calories and even lower. They became the basis of my N days (and often S meals) and took me all the way down However, if I ...

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Sometimes it was a reasonable portion of a processed food as part of my meal which kept me from snacking until that meal. Usually had less than two hours to wait from urge to meal.

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It turned out tap class had been cancelled because of a festival in the area. Another student and I showed up; I vaguely remembered something about an announcement about it. He and I had a nice talk and off I went. You'd think I'd have come home and done some tapping, but I didn't. Just finished the...

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This is per one of the guys I like to obsess on, Stephen Guyenet. I came out stress and exercise, though the way the questions were phrased, I sometimes answered as if some things were no problem at all when they occasionally are. It's funny about the stress because I'm never sure if I truly eat bec...

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Sounds like the body exerting its desire for homeostasis. Oh, well. I personally think it's better to know this might happen and not see it as a sign of failure (maybe you've said the same yourself in previous posts), but as a rather natural part of the process for most of us. Yes, yes, I know there...

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I'm doing my quarterly eating plan and boy, is it showing me how I had gotten into the habit of feeling like food was an option in many hours or situations that weren't for a long time. I'm not convinced that is keeping any weight on me, and am confronted with questioning whether it is a terrible pr...

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Hi, Linda. It's pretty loose to call fasting, though I attempt to keep to a 10-12 hour eating window- just went over it a few minutes ago having cooked up some rye berries, which I hadn't had in a long time. A fair amount of my food these days is fitting Longo's recommendations for daily eating, whi...

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You're navigating a lot of straits- good job, really!

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Tx! I took Costco tuxedo mousse cakes to a Saturday philosophy group meeting and chowed down on some good hunks. Before going, I had asked my carpool mate if she would put any leftovers in her freezer. I just couldn’t stand the thought of throwing it out and knew nobody there would take it. I also k...

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It’s worth try. Since the nature of your job makes the mods systematic, it could work to at least establish habit. If there’s still overeating going on, as there often is even when people are Vanilla-compliant, it’s easier to target it later. I’m not sure what you meant by saying you would STILL obs...

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Isn't it a shame that so many meetings, which could potentially be useful, are not? And yet, as a high school teacher, I am still glad we came together periodically so that it didn't feel like we were all just separately pedaling our own race. And I was lucky that one of the small groups I worked wi...

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What would real food be? Like enough for a relatively balanced dinner? Or just not chips and cookies?

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I had a meditation book from the library for a few weeks. The author said at certain advanced stages of meditation, all kinds of old experiences can arise and the body will go through different things- shaking, burning, cold, crying, etc. Being able to stay with the difficulties is part of what the ...

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I cannot eat the same amount I would have been able to had I not gained 40+ pounds and lost. Them's the breaks. If I'm honest, I'm not legitimately hungry for much more, but that doesn't stop me from yearning for more. That little extra pleasure in the mouth! That's the only place I feel it, though,...

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No worries. At least it wasn't about me! Last spring when I started going to a clutterers meeting on Tuesday afternoons, I got in the habit afterwards of dropping into one, sometimes two, nearby grocery stores that sell sesame sticks, a beloved food for me. (Leftover permissiveness from the "fasting...

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Is Resilient a guided meditation or an audiobook? Tx

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I wish I could say I fit your criterion, but I lost relatively early, though not a lot and not fast. But I also went through many plateaus. Eventually, loss would come after I actually ate a lot less on S days, sometimes even less than on N days because if I went out for a rich meal, I would sometim...

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I had already made a lot of changes before No S; meals were not my problem. I couldn't have handled much nutrition pressure back then. I couldn't even stand trying to curtail my wild S days, and boy were they wild! If had known then what I know now? Nah, it probably wouldn't have sunk in. I always l...

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Congrats on a good week. Good luck Monday!

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Well, the holiday eating starts earlier, for some people as early as Halloween. But if feeling back on track now feels good enough, it could carry you through. I had been way off from mid spring through to not that long ago, so I wanted to give myself a pep talk, too!

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I could have sworn I started a thread on this last year but couldn't find it. Maybe it was in 2017? Well, onwards. I'm pretty sure it was the author of Mindless Eating who found that it's really early in the fall that people need to get ready for the holidays by eating modestly. This can be further ...

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Good Lord, there can be a lot on a thread even when it's not very old! I want to "weigh in" on the binge stuff. I was a big binge/compulsive overeater for decades. I observed as time went on that it was actually in the first three hours after a meal that I felt the most urge to start the random eati...

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I'm just jumping all over the forum today. Keep hanging in there!

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Feeling a little overwhelmed to try to catch up, but wanted to say hi. Onwards to fall.

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I have been sporadic on the boards, but wanted to welcome you back. Warmest wishes to just keep going this time!

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You sound good, Dalia. I'm glad you have the idea to make it about a sustainable habit. You can't know what that will look like right off the top. You'll live your way into it. Hugs.

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I think you hit on it when you said you need goals that are not weight related. But they have to really resonate with you. I am a believer in some kind of relatively established routine because there are very few people who can eat more by the seat of their pants and do well in the long run. There i...

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What is really ironic is that the yoga series never takes less than 45 minutes; before this, I couldn't get myself to do even 14 minutes 5x a week! Weird. Like people who don't stick to any diet and then suddenly plunge in calories and count them judiciously. Let's hope something sticks better for m...

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Funny I said that about the agenda, because I am taking Longo as seriously, or close to it, with exceptions for social situations, as anyone in a long time, or at least that's the aspiration. Agenda or not, his stuff fits the overall picture of what I think holds water nutritionally. I feel I have t...

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People do not always make it to 21 days there first try. I hope you didn’t get discouraged. Please drop in and let us know what you’re thinking.

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Are you still pondering this? I would advise being willing to start first with tapering off on the plate loads unless you really believe that you could accommodate a two-meal structure in your work and social life and can’t stand the idea of less food at a meal. Let us know how it’s going even if it...

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When I first started No S, my meals didn’t actually change that much because I had already made a lot of changes to my meals over the years. (My big problem was compulsive overeating of mostly sweets from midday on.) However, over my years on the plan, my meal content has changed because my focus on...

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If you have been a frequent eater, yes, I believe you will be better off after a year of longer gaps between eating events even if you don’t lose weight. There are health advantages and mental advantages. Do you have active health issues or conditions that could soon become issues? What is the longe...

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I haven't been on the boards as much and see you haven't, either. Miss you! Hope things are better.

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Excellent progress! Congrats.

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Not caught up on everything, but dropping in anyway. Have to say from my perspective that your guest may have thought she was doing a favor by throwing a few items in with hers in the dryer. If she doesn't have a lot of clothes that need special treatment, she might have had no idea. I bet she feels...

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I sure have missed a lot, but will jump in any way. I took a webinar recently on dealing with past negative influences and it seemed to me that the teacher/therapist (he deals mostly with addicts) implied that the most important work to be done is on this side, meaning with oneself. So even if the o...

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I'll vent a little here but have recently been perturbed that in order to be smart about what, how often, and how much we eat. we have to contend with so much. I,too, don't want to be the wet blanket, and used to eat with gusto and much admiring of the usual suspects of dietary indiscretion at socia...

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Hi, ladybird! Keep up the good work.

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I've had a couple of days of better-enough eating that I feel pretty good today. Did already have a small fail, but still like the improvement. For anyone very triggered by health talk, better pass this rest of this post up! Linda, the tuneup is called a Fast MIMICKING Diet; it's not really fasting,...

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Hi, Candace. I, too, will not have read all your posts but wanted to respond to one you left on my thread. Yes, I had what I would call great success on No S for years. Great success for me was reducing my compulsive overeating and finding an eating plan that gave me pleasure and pep. Some sacrifice...

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Not to discourage you, but making better habits and "getting this weight off" can be loosely related. Depending on sustained, linear weight loss (or large losses) can derail better habits. (So many people leave because No S didn't get them weight loss at a rate they wanted, with no mention of any ot...

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That is so touching! I've said other places that it has derailed me that we don't get email updates about new thread posts on No S since the format change. But I've also not been posting because I've been off the rails and was sick of the whole thing. I have stayed marginally involved on Sparkpeople...

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I've been off the No S site for quite awhile. It has really affected me that we don't get email alerts of thread updates anymore. (But I also needed a break from eating stuff,and I'm so fragile in my own eating right now that I just didn't want to keep writing about it. Though I will probably do an ...

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Just to add, you can sabotage No S with the attitude you talk about as well. By the way, you are not alone in the kind of reaction you are talking about. It's actually typical for dieting, that is, to respond to slips by going off the deep end. It's called officially the 'what-the-hell" syndrome and...

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I had my turnaround when I saw that my compulsive overeating was as painful as it would probably be to say not to urges to overeat. I was lucky that the No S plan was so pleasurable for so long.

But I want to say that it definitely took discipline at times.

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I'm going to say if you feel that that schedule is working for you and your social life, just go with it and don't get caught up in the IF world. It can just become another way to stay caught in the preoccupation. (Well, it has been for me. I'm still grappling with it two years later after 3 meals s...

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After nearly 8 years of a lot of success, I have had some trouble recently, but I'll talk anyway. The two main motivations for my sticking with it was 1) feeling that my eating (I did a lot of binge-like compulsive overeating) was only going to get worse and I couldn't see living like that for my la...

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I saw a post on my thread awhile ago in which you said you had bought a scale that measures bodyfat. Is it a bad time to ask for your assessment on it? It was pretty inexpensive. Not that I'm in the market, but am curious.

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The obsession continues. I"ve been listening to the book Bright Line Eating. I looked at the program on a special disc provided. It's basically a prescribed calorie diet with limited foods at three meals. Very regimented. I felt sad looking at it! Would I achieve the happiness and sense of freedom p...

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I think it's becoming nearly universal in the culture to believe that just about any time or place or position (standing and walking, etc.) is a viable time to eat. Individuals might not choose to eat, but it's rarely questioned, at least out loud. God forbid that you should imply that you would rat...

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A smoothie is basically solid food pre-chewed. Save food for meals. And remember that you have an amazingly powerful blender in the form or your jaws and teeth!

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The acting is a mix of things: fun, challenging, tedious, annoying, etc. VERY easy to get caught up in ego stuff. It's a little disappointing to see how easy it is for me to get waylaid. I thought it might be a new and engrossing activity to fill more of my time with, but it takes effort, even thoug...

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Hope Thursday went decently well, and Friday will be green! It's such a great feeling to go to bed Friday night having been compliant, even if it took some pain to get there.

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Here's to a strong, compliant Friday. A great way to end the week. I'm on your side!

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Good lord, your life can be a minefield of food! Great job on building the resistance muscle. Stick to your moderate guns! Look at me, mixing metaphors like a sports writer....

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Well, the birthdays will be out of the way soon, too. Maybe that's better than having to face them more often throughout the year. And there are some spans where every other year where one of them falls on an S day anyway. It can be shocking how little food it can take to sustain us. I'm no scientis...

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You didn't ask, but I think it is a very good idea to reinforce the specialness of saving baking for S days with your kids. The American habit of baking and having sweets around all the time is way out of line with older traditional cultures, especially the intensity and portion sizes we're used to,...

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Just browsed through your thread. Welcome and continued success!

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There are no slim cultures (where food is accessible) that don't to some degree have a "program" or cultural routines that limit their food intake. They instinctively know it can't be left to chance. Don't feel bad that you have to adopt at least some brakes. Only a small minority of people in the w...

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Heartful post about reflecting on your comment about your overweight doctor. It's quite a societal habit. I think fat is less of an issue than overeating is. Sounds paradoxical, but I honestly believe if someone studied it, they'd find those who eat less, no matter what their weight, stay healthier ...

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I wish I could promise you it will all just fall into place and you will sail into your eating future on smooth seas. It COULD happen! but even if it doesn't, what's the alternative, really? I've just come through a disturbing time in which I was perfectly willing to grossly overeat and put up with ...

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How appropos your name is for your beginning month! Or maybe it's a chosen handle? Either way, welcome. If you eventually want weight loss (I think wanting to change overeating is a better starting motivation), you would be very unusual if you were able to lose while filling plates with all dense fo...

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OOhhh the number of failures I had from trying to bake. Dough and batter were my drugs of choice, and sometimes the dry ingredients!

In any case, glad to see you again.

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After several years in, in my case, I would say it comes and goes. Though when I was a working teacher, the urge to snack in the afternoons, in the hours between the end of classes and dinner that used to be the start of the sweets-eating that often went on until bedtime, just about never went away....

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First time looking at your thread. What a big change from last fall! I was seeing posts with many of your worries, but the signature line told what had happened since. Wow! Many happy returns.

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Hi, You! Wish that wanting to exercise would rub off over here. But it ain't over yet!

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I'm not sure I've ever said hi, so hi! And is it my misreading of your thread, but was there a 2-year gap in there? I haven't read all of it, but will comment on this: pizza is considered one of the 10 most addictive foods around. I always have to moderate my intake. I still remember the first time ...

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Hello! I've missed this whole year with you, I think. Belated welcome. Why do we do it (overeat to the point of discomfort) to ourselves? The explanation I have liked the most is something called the "cram factor." Humans in the past were rewarded with survival for cramming food when available. Even...

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I've found that I am just as good if not better at procrastinating since I retired in January as I was when I was working. With fewer excuses. You seem quite productive to me! Congrats on the habits that have resulted in looser pants.

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I ha en't caught up completely, but I got some good help re:food at various times from a book called Over the Influence. One tenet of harm reduction therapy is that the client comes to the conclusions about limits from education and experience. After years of aiming at moderation with certain foods,...

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