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Kevin

Poetically put, and, I think, completely correct. I have done a lot of experimenting with alternate day eating and intermittent fasting. Just like No S, ALL of them share the ultimate aim of making calorie intake less than energy output. <snip> The "secret" behind every one of these Plans is the HOP...

Kevin

I think you are just hard up against it. But if I were in your shoes, I'd probably do the same thing (i.e., take a failure). Who doesn't love uber-sweet donut-like things?

Kevin

You're one tough woman. It's Sunday night, although it was darn cold, I completed my 20 mile run. The best part about long training runs is when it's over. I end the run at my gym, so I can sit in the steam room for awhile. After that, my husband and I go out for dinner. I'm looking forward to a suc...

Kevin

You're one tough woman. It's Sunday night, although it was darn cold, I completed my 20 mile run. The best part about long training runs is when it's over. I end the run at my gym, so I can sit in the steam room for awhile. After that, my husband and I go out for dinner. I'm looking forward to a suc...

Kevin

Who can blame you! But when it comes down to it, even though it's more nutritious than straight-up sugar and a more complex carbohydrate, fructose is a fairly simple sugar, and at this rate, can you be consuming any veggies??? :) I find the fruit thing difficult too. I adore fruit, it's my favourite...

Kevin

Did I read correctly that your goal is to sleep three or four hours a day?

Kevin

It's good that you are back. Suggestion if you are easing in: pick one rule and follow it. I think a little of this and a little of that ends up, too often, as not much of anything, you know? I am back. How convenient--tomorrow is Saturday. Well, I will ease back into this. I feel like I'm really re...

Kevin

I'm so hungry for lunch that I misread your ID as bacon mom. :) Day 4: Success I'm a little less hungry between meals than I was a few days ago -- good sign! I also look forward to meals more than I did, and I'm enjoying every bite. When I did Weight Watchers a few years ago, meals meant counting po...

Kevin

Folks with funky schedules need to revise the plan sometimes. It might be that you are going to PLAN four meals a day - the ones before and after class being small ones. That's okay. If three meals is unworkable, then ipso facto... The thing to remember is: "No Snacks, no Sweets, and No Seconds exce...

Kevin

11 pounds in roughly 12 weeks is very appropriate weight loss. Half a pound to a pound a week is what doctors recommend. I would recommend you weigh yourself at the same time everyday. I can vary by as much as four pounds if I weigh myself morning and evening. thanks everyone for your posts on slow ...

Kevin

Well, stay tough. Sounds like you have it in the bag.

Dandelion wrote:What. A. Day. Correction. What a week. So many things have gone wrong. Just not my eating and I intend to keep it that way.

Kevin

I watch TV. I don't know if you do, but when I watch TV, I do a set of something at every commercial break. Pushups, situps, squats, curls with my resistance band, something. It gets to be a habit pretty quickly, and, in a couple of hours, you've done a fair amount of metabolism-quickening exercise....

Kevin

SURE you fit in here. If you miss us, come back and talk to us! And I'm glad to hear you are feeling so much better. :) Been a long time since I posted on here. Lemme bring me up to date: August 15, 2009 I started the atkins diet, since I was desperate to lose some weight. I was going back up and FA...

Kevin

Nice. Keep it up!

tlang313 wrote:Day 15- N Day- success!

Getting closer to the 21 day mark . . . starting to feel like habit already.

Kevin

You're a tough guy. I'm impressed. Well, I'm solidly under 400 lbs now. And I'm almost through the 390's. 390.4 lbs this morning and 44.9% bf I've been tracking everything I eat on TheDailyPlate, which has helped me stay rigorous on calorie budgeting. I'm thinking with a little bit of luck, I just m...

Kevin

I would have made something else and not felt bad about it at all. You're last name isn't Sparta by any chance, is it? :) Success yesterday, and it was a tough one. My dinner plans fell through, and I got home about an hour and a half later than usual - starving, and with nothing planned for supper....

Kevin

Because they are idiots. They probably come from long, proud lines of idiots. On my Tuesday run I overdid it and ended up with some hotspots and almost blisters - first time that happened. I stepped on some glass one time, but was able to pull it out easily. Why do people think breaking beer bottles...

Kevin

Sorry about the job. Tough news.

frugaltexan wrote:Thursday

didn't get job

Reverted to old habits.

Stopping train in its tracks and back to good new habits!

Kevin

Straight up green beans are 100 calories? That's hard to imagine... Howdy, I thought I would post a positive find- fried chicken livers, 1 cup, which I eat on occasion (4x per year) is only 385 calories. Plus cream gravy 120 for a ladle which I will use half , and 2 veggies (the green beans were a s...

Kevin

I hope you had a great day with your grandchildren. Yesterday was a mixed bag. I did fine on eating...all green, but again a really full dinner plate...too full. I need to work on that. I know when I don't get enough protein at lunch, I'm really hungry by supper time and over compensate. However, I ...

Kevin

So, you cut the cheese, huh? (Sorry. I just couldn't help it. Inside every man is a little boy that still laughs at flatulence. And jokes about flatulence. I'm laughing now, having twice type flatulence.) Note to Self: lay off the cheese. I thought I was doing better with the dairy allergy, and have...

Kevin

Glad to see you posting. I've done the Double-Sabbath mod, as many others have (it goes back for years). Be sure to treat that Sunday night dinner as sacred. Also, I think this mod gives you more opportunity to eat when you are likely to eat, so be careful if your goal is to lose weight. On S-days, ...

Kevin

Thanks, Em!

~emilyr wrote:Way to go ~ starting out strong 8) 8)

Just thought you might like some peace on your own check in :D :D

Kevin

Thanks for sharing that. I love science! Incredible...For a while now, I've noticed (with a bit of disbelief) that when I stroll into Whole Foods, which houses some of my all time favorite sweets, that I can just walk in and not succumb to temptation..At first I thought it was a fluke - that I was j...

Kevin

To some degree, that will improve with time. I like to eat mindfully on S days. That is, I eat a single serving, then I think about if I want more. If I want more, I take more, but only after I finish the first serving. I won't hesitate to put marmalade on my english muffin the morning. I snack, but...

Kevin

There's this stuff they sell at Trader Joe's called Kefir. It pours like buttermilk but has more active cultures. Is that like fil mjolk? Back to the buttermilk... I make fil mjolk, which is similar to yogurt, though less tart, and it cultures at room temperature. I use it in place of buttermilk and...

Kevin

I think that even on S days, you should eat mindfully - that is, eat it because you want it, not because it's an S day. Food is a resource shared by the world, and you should always be grateful for it. Eat the normal serving of pizza. Still want seconds? Go for it, or maybe think about saving room f...

Kevin

For your own purposes, if protein or high-quality fat makes you feel fuller, then eat some. There's another theory floating around this site that it's more the variety than the ratio between protein/carb/fat. That (observation-based) theory says you need at least three distinct foods to feel satisfi...

Kevin

Hang in there. You'll make it. We believe in you. :) I obviously cannot be trusted to use my common sense, and go willy nilly everywhere. I trusted it, then allowed myself to eat cake and french fries. My stomach was uncomfortably full. Mind you, this is MUCH better than other days I've had (saintly...

Kevin

Great observation. I've found that there are deprivation days, too - not often, but every once in a while - that are just not to be resisted. As you said, take it "on the chin" and just move on... Wow...it's been quite a journey..I'm a newbie to the No S Diet. I began working with it 6 months ago an...

Kevin

It's difficult to lose weight if you are eating out, unless you severely limit your portions. Fat, sugar, and salt to help you retain water. Nice things those restaurants do for you. Well, it has been several weeks since I last wrote here. My first "21" went so well that I think I got smug :? and th...

Kevin

Fantastic progress. Good for you!

Kevin

A-men. It's unbelievable how much more caloric restaurant food is than home-cooked food. And it's usually not better. At least, in my estimation. What do they put in it? It can only be sugar and fat. Howdy, <snip> 2. Food ordered out has calories stuffed into them that I would never think of if prep...

Kevin

Been there. Done that. I'm back for the same reasons. 1 year ago... I started no S. I quickly lost 20 pounds and gained a false sense of security. I then started doing "my own thing" around Christmas time and ended up gaining it all back over a 4 month period. I again started No S with great enthusi...

Kevin

Welcome back!

Kevin

It's interesting. Sweets don't do jack for me. But crackers and crab dip... My main modification is that I don't use S days. My release valve is that I allow myself to snack on fruit. You mean you NEVER eat sweets? Ever? :shock: :shock: :shock: OK, I agree that's unreasonable! Like I said, I've only...

Kevin

It's probably mostly the fiber that's holding you until lunch. There's some protein in oatmeal, but not tons. Of course, add the PB and the milk may make the protein in the oatmeal a lot more complete, so yeah, it might be the oatmeal. :) When I have oatmeal for breakfast I like to mix in peanut but...

Kevin

I could be wrong about this, but I think that all buttermilk is fairly low fat, becuase it started off as what's left over when butter is churned.. most of what you get now is cultured milk, but I think the low-fatness is traditional. Like I said, I could be wrong. ... I need some buttermilk for a r...

Kevin

Well, I re-started after a couple of years lost in the wilderness. I have no idea why I stopped No-S. I had dropped to about 170 pounds (from 208). When I stopped, I got back up to 196 or so. Ugh. Anyway, I'm only six or so weeks into it again, but the old realizations came back quickly. I'm about a...

Kevin

Sounds like you're working the plan. Keep it up! Oh, but if I only update that one page, then my topic gets shifted down to the bottom. Guess I can make comments from time to time. Doing good on the weight, like 140-141. Slow but steady. My one :( day was not so bad either, just some potato chips at...

Kevin

No-S works, but you really do have to pay some attention to what you eat. I mean, if you are doing three one-plate meals a day from McDonalds (or even one), you are not going to lose weight. There's no magic. If you are trying to get to 120 pounds, then you have to consume the calories that a 120 po...

Kevin

Good work!

Kevin

Oh, there's no question that all that calories matter. I mean, No-S works partly because a framework that gives you less opportunity to consume.

But I'll have a Royal Robin burger twice a year or so anyway.

Kevin

What kind of oil? 10 to 20 *minutes*? I'm imagining swishing Mobil 1 around, but I know that can't be right. :) Yesterday (Tues) - 3 meals, no snacks. Yeah! :) I have been experimenting with something called oil pulling. Basically, you swish oil in your mouth for 10-20 minutes and then spit it out. ...

Kevin

Kickin' some habit, aren't you? :) Another successful day. Too filled and busy to be otherwise = ) ...by the time I got to supper, I was really hungry...everything tasted so good and was so satisfying. And my one plate was enough! I wasn't stuffed or overly full, but I was in my right mind and knew ...

Kevin

You do what's best for you, right? We all do. We do it mindfully and good things happen. There was a guy with the tag Freakwitch that used to post a lot. He was a two-mealer. Just a question - is juice the right choice for breakfast? You mentioned you were diabetic - I'm assuming Type II. Something ...

Kevin

Is that the one with the scratchy audio track of some beat poet reading a wierd poem while pictures of nubile young people and playing younger children frolic in dumpy setting? Creeps me out. Day 7- N Day - Success! It's been one week of successful No S-ing, I'm a third of the way to the 21 day mark...

Kevin

You know, in other message boards, I've seen QFT, and I thought it meant something much more vulgar than quoted for truth. Thanks for spelling it out for me. :)

sporkfancier wrote:
HealthPrincess9 wrote:I agree - Meals definitely taste a lot better now that I'm not snacking!
Quoted for truth! This has been the biggest change for me.

Kevin

Eating while traveling is the worst. You do the best you can... Grammy G, thanks for stopping by! I love the Halloween treat ideas you shared. I'm thinking that I'll need them for the next few years, since we'll be doing Halloween birthday parties for a while! :) Traveling... Tuesday dinner was a bl...

Kevin

TJ's is a fantastic place. I feel sorry for those that don't have them. I love how when you are walking through everyone has a little smile on their face... Customers I mean. :) Kevin, sounds like you are having success as well, way to go! I'm starting to fear hunger less and less now, and I'm sure ...

Kevin

It took a couple of months for me.

Dandelion wrote:How much time are we talking here? I know we're all different, blah blah blah - but it would just give me a peep of light at the end of the tunnel :)

Kevin

I'm sorry to hear that your grandfather passed, although it does sound like it was a blessing in a way. Still, it's never easy when someone of big stature in our lives dies. Peace, Deb. Hi Friends! I am back for a quick check in now.. My Grandfather died last week, and me and Richie had to go down t...

Kevin

Great work on the walk, you Urban Ranger you. Tuesday was an all green day! The NoS part was just a tad more difficult, but I felt that I had really set my mind...and posted that I had...so I was able to stick to it! The hardest of the three areas for me is No Seconds...I want to eat just a bit more...

Kevin

It can take quite some time for the between-meal-hungries to become a normal part of your life, and not to be feared. I'll tell you the truth though: last Thursday they came back to me with a vengeance. And this is an experienced No-Ser talking. Some days are just tougher than others. For breakfast,...

Kevin

It sounds like your folks have a daughter to be proud of. Keep going to lunch with your Dad. My daughter is 18 now, and I treasure the time I get to spend with her now that she's at college, although I doubt she knows how much. I'd have ordered the same thing. Have you ever been to Red Robin? They h...

Kevin

Nice to hear from you, Deb. Somehow, I don't think it's quite eight pounds, even though I think my initial weigh in was correct. it just doesn't seem right. Hey Kevs, just here for a few mins, but wanted to drop in and congratulate you on your great month so far! I read you lost about 8 lbs already!...

Kevin

Welcome to No S! You'll have to tell us a little more about your bacon based diet, and what ketogenic weight loss is - I'm envisioning this [oxymoron] extreme version of Atkins [/oxymoron] where all you eat is highly cured, high-sodium pork products... am I close? :) Colorful vegetables every day ke...

Kevin

S days will get better with time. They will. At this point, my S days are a snack in the middle of the afternoon and maybe some pretzels after dinner. And I'll eat seconds if I want. They didn't used to be like that, but over time, they just sort of developed into that. What a Monday. After all the ...

Kevin

Great work! Day #3: Success! Day #4: Success! Both of these days were s-days and I stuck with the three plate framework. On Saturday I only had one chocolate chip cookie as a treat and on Sunday I had two plates plus a couple of cookies and a plate of cheese and crackers with wine with my husband be...

Kevin

Tomorrow is another day. :) aaggh - completely off track at the moment. My good habits went out the window when my life got chaotic with work, elderly parent and 9-year-old's birthday and family celebrations. No S went down the gurlger. I feel crap because I ate lots of gluten and sugar, but then ag...

Kevin

I'm not sure what you are home from, but a four day "weekend" is always tough for me, because each day feels like it "should" be Saturday or Sunday. I'm sure your binging will decrease with time. Give it time. Look how much better you are now than you were during the summer. It's just getting better...

Kevin

Halloween candy comes straight from Satan. Been a while... I'm detoxing from Halloween, and from the birthday party that preceded it and the dinner out with a friend-who-rarely-visits after... I am glad it's Monday. Not the usual reaction to Monday, but I'm glad to be eating SANELY again. The sleepo...

Kevin

Glad you jumped back in. Okay, the trouble started when I stopped checking in each day. Had unexpected company and didn't take the time...then just didn't get back to it...then wasn't following my plan...then pretty much ditched the plan all together...then tried to get back in gear, but not doing t...

Kevin

Sound like you've got it down, Dawn. Five pounds in a month... good work! Well the first S week went well. I counted it as a success. I did great with the S events, but I didn't do my 4 meals as I should have. The weekends are not as routine and I have my family here with me all day interupting my p...

Kevin

Only you could get away with that term, Reinhard.

reinhard wrote:Phayze,

. And the way you do it, at least, it's not at all doofy looking. It's almost elegant -- if one can use such a word to describe jumping around with a sledgehammer.

Thank you!

Reinhard

Kevin

I'm probably being overbearing. I have personal reasons for that, but my experience is not yours. If you are taking care of transportation to and from and don't take undo risks, then you are the very best judge of whether its too much or not. I'm sorry if I'm being over the top. I'll stop now. And y...

Kevin

Traveling for work is a killer. I have a portable gym from Lifeline USA (www.lifelineusa.com) that's great for travel - you'd be surprised how good the workout is. Pretty cheap too. The rubber cables from them last a long time... Wow, I just realized I haven't posted anything here since May. Yikes. ...

Kevin

I'm sorry to hear about all your troubles. I'd consider all those days you were reaching out to friends, and certainly any days surrounding surgery as S days. Okay...the rest of October was not worth dwelling on. Our friends' son finally passed away from Batten's disease - awful disease - always fat...

Kevin

No-S doesn't rule out eating just two meals. There have been others here in the past that have done that. Let us know how it goes for you. Day 7: FAILED Today I had Chile's, but I took that huge meal and spaced it over the day. It wasn't to No-s guidelines, but I feel proud for not going crazy and e...

Kevin

Welcome!

You'll adjust to between-meal hungry. In fact, you'll come to appreciate how sharp you feel between meals when you are not perma-grazing.

Good luck!

Kevin

The term "beer gut" doesn't come from nowhere. Drinking a lot really isn't good for you. Are you talking about lost weekends, or three drinks out on Friday and Saturday night? If you can't easily stop at three, think more seriously about whether you are developing a habit that you don't want to deve...

Kevin

There are many people here who have lost weight, some dramatically. I lost 30 pounds, then broke the habit, and gained most of it back. If you can build and keep the habit, you can do very well. I'm back at it now, and in one month have lost about eight pounds. I don't feel deprived, I feel good. I ...

Kevin

Welcome, the best of luck, and I truly hope it works well for you.

Kevin

Being a Nationalss fan, I'd normally *never* say go Phillies.

However.

Go Phillies!!!

Nichole wrote:
Go Phillies!

Kevin

I'm losing weight at a pace of about a pound a week. I'm still not sure what got me off track last time (after I had lost almost 30 pounds). Live and learn. Those turnips sound good! I belong to a CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) farm and get a box of produce every other week, and that's been g...

Kevin

No soup for you!

Kevin

Serious nighttime cravings are tough to crack. Keep up the good work, and good luck. Since you've been curtailing your night time eating, has your sleep been better? I sleep much better if I haven't eaten since dinner. I've been taking it slow, just focusing on my eating habits & not worrying much a...

Kevin

Every time you exercise discipline, it grows stronger. Congratulations. I said no to: Ben and Jerry's Half Baked Ice Cream How did I do it? I still don't know. I was VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY CLOSE to eating it... and I was thinking, "Well, I can adapt the plan... or I can mark today as a failure... ...

Kevin

Trader Joe's (maybe you don't have them where you are?) sells kick @ss sweet potato fries. Something I'm in the mood for recently -- sweet potato french fries. Those turnips things DO sound good. I have been trying to open a can of veggies for dinner, but it's not going so well lol Seems like you're...

Kevin

Maybe you can be a traditionalist about 4th meal - have a glass of warm milk... Another great day. The hungries didn't have a hold me yesterday so that does help. I ran into the same dilema last night as I did the night before. I was out and got in late - late for me that is. I really could have ski...

Kevin

The other night my wife made something that just... well. We've been going to this community farm lately. It's called Red Wiggler: they employ mentally disabled adults and you buy "shares" which pay off each week. They had turnips. Lots and lots of turnips. Now, normally, I don't like root veggies m...

Kevin

Yay, you! Absolutely!

Kevin

You go, Dandelion!

Kevin

Interesting hypothosis...

Whatever it is, I prefer to feel between-meal hungry to full. I don't fear that feeling anymore. I just feel better that way.

Dandelion wrote:I have noticed the same thing Kevin. Maybe it's a remnant of our hunter gatherer days when we had to stay sharp to find and chase down food.

Kevin

That could be very motivating... And welcome back! Hello - this is my second atttempt at the No S Diet and am loving it! I made a half-hearted attempt earlier this year, then screwed it up by trying to add too many rules, exceptions, etc. This time, I am just following the original rules of the diet...

Kevin

I don't think mild hunger provides a perverse pleasure - I think it provides a mental advantage. I'm much sharper when I'm between-meals hungry. I wouldn't count that as a failure either. We had chicken soup and biscuits the other day, and I had two biscuits - but that is how many I have every time....

Kevin

With a really busy lifestyle, it's hard. Maybe try one meal at a time? Standardize breakfast, then standardize dinner if you can. Lunch may always be hard to pin down. It's worthwhile making rituals around meals - like saying grace (even if you aren't religious, it's worth taking a few seconds to ju...

Kevin

Some days are just harder than others. Strange day. Started out with the electricity being turned off in my landlady's house. Apparently she had paid it late one month and had been playing catch up, and thought the next payment wasn't till the 2nd. Oops. Electric was back on by 1 pm, but I ended up ...

Kevin

You feel bad because you are using a small amount of fat to cook your food? Stop feeling bad. It's part of cooking! If you spend too much time worrying about the small number of calories in a little cooking oil, rather than making an enjoyable meal, you're going to have a hard time with No-S. Make a...

Kevin

When my daughter was younger and she had school assignments that required memorization, or "patternization" of some kind or another, we used to walk. Walking while doing multiplication tables, memorization of lines, etc. is natural, and an *amazing* way to reinforce such skills. Maybe you could work...

Kevin

Another thing to do if you feel like you aren't getting enough lower body workout is to incorporate knee flexing in SG move. Chopping, butter churn, etc., for most of those moves you could bend your knees at the bottom of the stroke. It'll really amp up the cardio. Ok! Included Hindu squats at end o...

Kevin

That must bite. You know, I'm getting really sick of getting down one really good week of exercise and then being knocked down by some force of nature . . . Long story short, I fell down and smashed up my knee two weeks ago. The bad one, of course. So, I've been in recovery mode (have I ever mention...

Kevin

It sounds like you are adjusting to eating less, and eating at meal times. Good for you! Next time you want a snack on an S day, ask yourself "will this really make me feel better, or am I just going to be full at mealtime?"

That works for me.

Kevin

I guess that just goes to show how natural walking is for humans.

Kevin

Glad you're back at it!

Kevin

One shouldn't overlook the value of of a neti pot, either. Nasal irrigation with salt water is amazingly (but not completely) effective against viruses (like gargling with salt water is).

Kevin

I'm glad you are at least a bit better. I went to doctor and found I had herniated disk. Doctor was not impressed that despite herniated disk, I had still been walking up to 15 miles a day and doing 100 push ups and 300 squats. He told me to stay in bed and do nothing. It is over a month later and I...

Kevin

Human kibble. That's funny. Purina People Chow. Science Diet for the Active Middle Aged Dawg (with Glucosamine and Chondroitin for Healthy Joints). Eukenuba Adolescent Formula (with lamb protein to support growth and absolutely no extra hormones, because at this age...) Nutro Golden Age Formula (wit...

Kevin

Good luck!

Kevin

The idea is a reasonable meal at mealtime, then stop eating until the next mealtime. You can have a beverage, just not a sugar-based one. There is a one plate rule, but most of us don't sweat it if we have our veggie-only salad on the side (not all loaded down with croutons and dressing and stuff!)....

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