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RE:veggies, me, too! It's exasperating how expensive it is to get some relatively plain, fresh vegetables in restaurants, and I'm not talking about a few leaves of lettuce. Can a handful each of carrots and green beans be that expensive? Actually, they probably are, given how many restaurants use fr...

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Don't know how I missed these. Just wanted to add that not only do you look good, but you also look now as if you never had a problem! Not to slight your efforts...

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Just weighing in here on yogurt. If you have a Trader Joe's nearby and like plain yogurt, I highly recommend their own brand of European style organic yogurt. I get the non-fat because I like to add either walnuts or flax seed meal, but it tastes really creamy on its own even with no fat, IMHO.

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I thought the drink sounded interesting, as I never thought of coffee and peanut butter going together, but it made sense on 2nd thought. Truthfully, for myself I would consider that a little bit of skating on the edge to regard it as a beverage, even though it is a liquid, because the peanut butter...

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Oops! I forgot about your being pregnant. But of course I was kidding. Oh, just one more example in a long list of my sticking foot in my mouth! AAgh! When will I learn?

oolala53

I can't remember being normal, but I hope we both get there permanently.

oolala53

Wasn't hungry for breakfast again. Was very tempted to eat seconds for dinner just to feel very full. However, I got past it and am glad I did. I showed myself one more time that most desire is in the imagination. Success mid-morning two cups coffee with milk/cream lunch: buffalo burger, rice, pea p...

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Ouch to walking in heels. I wonder if we use as many calories hobbling?

oolala53

I've been noticing that I'm often not hungry for breakfast. I allow for a cup of coffee with a generous amount of milk or even cream if I need it mid-morning. I don't find that I want more at subsequent meals. I like to think it's just that my body has tapped into its fat stores, so I'm getting all ...

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I like the sound of your vacation plan, too. Where did we get the idea that vacation means overeating? Geesh, in our culture, we do that all year! I've often chosen yoga and meditation vacations just because I consider them a vacation from the onslaught of food. It backfired a bit this spring, but t...

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This is probably all part of your journey with No S. You don't have to be able to see when you might "come back" for it to happen. I could never tell what made the necessity to binge go away before I got into the rhythm of No S after 14 months of "trying." I think you know too much now for it not to...

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Oh, what people will do to lose water weight! Of course, I'm kidding. I hope I don't seem too heartless. Weight loss is never worth that kind of experience. I hope you recover completely soon.

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peanut/coffee drink? Is that something you had pre-No S?

oolala53

Those sound like darn good meals.

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Great going, Denise.

oolala53

Sunday S-day more sweets than I intended, but not terrible, either. However, the salt and sugar took their toll as my weight went up 3.5 lbs. overnight! I was disappointed as I keep fluctuating around the same weight and have not been down to where I was a couple of months ago. It's not saying much ...

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It's the "downhill from there" that does us in, not the one chocolate, and this from many downhill experiences here! Once in awhile, I've given myself permission to designate a small slip as a yellow S day--when I've managed not to let it turn into a free-for-all. But you've got to do what helps you...

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Went to Monterey Bay Aquarium. Lunch not quite satisfying because it was too expensive to get even just a bit of everything I wanted. Had dinner out and virtual plated so that I could have a dessert of fresh cherries.
Friday, June 18 Success

oolala53

I can't believe what a difference it makes to have fat in a meal, even if it's only about 100 calories' worth. Glad you made it through.

oolala53

Thurs. 6/17 Success. Ate lunch out and brought home a lot of leftovers. Had a lecture to go to and wasn't hungry for dinner before, so I pulled out leftovers AFTER I got home. I still didn't finish all that was left. Not full at all, which is nice for going to bed

oolala53

Thanks for the info on T-Tapp!

oolala53

Tx for the credit, but when I was writing that, I was thinking how I had not been applying it to my S days I had to get to the point where S days caused full-on nausea before I felt enough incentive to lighten up. The fear of overdoing it and feeling that way again helped stopped me as well as the r...

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I don't remember if I knew about or asked you about your experience with T-Tapping. I bought a couple of DVD's off eBay. I shouldn't have done it esp. not getting one with instruction. I went to a session with a trainer yesterday and that was a totally different experience. I think I see now how it ...

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Tues and Wed. June 15 & 16 successes

oolala53

I'm visiting a friend who doesn't eat that much, but I know him well enough to insist on meals. I did end up eating lighter than I would have yesterday. I'm going to push for enough food because although it would be attractive to drop a few pounds, it's not worth it just to put it back on. Anyway, I...

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The tapioca sounds reasonable to me. Do you think it was much sweeter than oatmeal with some brown sugar? Probably not. Mindful eating is definitely worth it, but it's not a cultural practice. Years ago, I heard a nutritionist say we should "chew your juice and drink your food." He meant we should n...

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Sounds smart to leave yourself the option for a small lunch. And regarding waiting until later to eat, isn't it neat to feel that you can tolerate hunger when the situation warrants it? I love No S!

oolala53

Not sure what time the urges hit. Was there an opportunity just to rest? You said you had been tired. If I can, I've started to just put my head down and concentrate on my body sensations to take the attention away from my thoughts. If I'm home, I lie down! Never underestimate the value of a good po...

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Going on a little trip so I am trying to eat just what's in the fridge. No worries. b: yogurt, banana, blueberries, walnuts l: cabbage & red pepper salad with chicken sausage, cottage cheese, Indian curry sauce, on whole wheat bread d: pork chile verde with wonton noodles, cooked asparagus, raw carr...

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Sunday- continued to pick at food, but didn't over do it. A big improvement over last week. I hope I've turned a corner on S days.

oolala53

I had thousands of experiences in 40 years of saying I would have just one bite and then not stopping at a reasonable amount or even a mildly unreasonable amount. I know I am still at "during" here on No S and always will be, but those experiences are a fraction of what they used to be. I'm just say...

oolala53

There are many variables that go into determining how long it will take before a problem behavior can be overcome. Remember, we're talking about habit change here, not dieting. I'm 5 1/2 months into this and I'm just getting a handle on S days. Most of my N days have been compliant. As time has gone...

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Yeah, Jim Fixx was his name. A lot of people stayed on the couch after he died.

oolala53

I know what you mean about your so-so oatmeal. Not only the lack of protein, but the lack of pleasure. For me, finding food pleasurable seems to be part of satiety. But we don't always get that. I've had to fight my tendency to feel cheated and use it as an excuse to eat when I shouldn't. Luckily, I...

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Along with belief has to come desire. Interesting that Gandhi never felt he had to change his physique in order to reach for his goals. "How can I fight the British? I'm too skinny! They'll never take me seriously!" Makes me wonder what I'll work on when eating is not such a big focus in my life. I ...

oolala53

Some valuable observations! Keep racking up those positive experiences. The ratio is what is going to tip the scales.

oolala53

Rambling about life is definitely progress! Although I'm enjoying myself on the boards now, I really have a goal that within a year or two this whole issue will have faded from my life as a concern. Then i can torture myself over some other issue!

oolala53

Do I have this right? Are you about 6 weeks into this? Sounds like you are doing pretty well. Four months in I started having weekends in hell, not to mention what Monday was like. I feel I finally came out of that tailspin just the past couple of days. Grammy's right-most people don't have a graph ...

oolala53

I don't want to bring down your high, but I also want to caution you to just experience this as it comes for you. Some people have a hard time in the beginning, then it's a breeze for awhile, then it gets hard, etc.; others, it's easy and then they hit a wall and get discouraged because they thought...

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I was scared for a bit in the morning because after such a terrible reaction to overeating last weekend, I thought I would start the day off very conservatively. Compared to last week, I did, but having some chocolate chips right after breakfast made me wonder. However, as the day went on, I didn't ...

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I am with you, JLV, on seeing the glass half--no, three-quarters--full because of the reduction in hours spent eating sugar. Same as you, every day for me. I don't know if was same as you but A LOT everyday, not just a pack of M & M's. So, decreasing that to one or two days a week is huge. In fact, ...

oolala53

I don't know if you saw any of my posts about it, but last weekend I overate and my tolerance has declined so much so that I was nauseous off and on for days. I thought I must be cured. I promised myself that this weekend I was just going to eat meals, casually snack a bit, but have only a portion o...

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My Zen teacher says it's an illusion that we're making anything happen. Which doesn't mean we don't make plans and efforts. Just don't get too attached. I'm still working on that one.

oolala53

S days are Yes days for sure! My hardest times before No S were the 2nd and 3rd hours just after a meal. If I could get past then, and actually get to true hunger, I did better, but it took No S's structure to help me do it consistently. Not that hunger was easy! It will be interesting to see how th...

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No, that's the one on procrastination.

oolala53

I LOVE Indian food. I had my own version of bhartha today for lunch. I also have packaged palak paneer and a few other dishes in my pantry at all times. I'm visiting a friend in northern Calif. next week and we will go ooh and ahh over some Indian food there.

oolala53

I was surprised when I first came here and saw that people were writing down what they ate for their meals since Reinhard didn't and since the plan is supposed to make that kind of record keeping unnecessary. But, some people have said that reading other's meals gives them ideas. Thus I'll do it, th...

oolala53

OMG, you're talking about injera bread, right? I love that stuff!

oolala53

Okay, you thoroughbred jockey, you, careful about trying to jump ahead! That is what makes a lot of people fall down. Get N days down. May I gently suggest that, if you can't give up weighing yourself, you give it a lot less prominence for a few months than you do to getting to strict compliance wit...

oolala53

A fantastic post - thank you.[/quote]

idon'tknow, you are too kind. Thank you.

oolala53

I just updated mine.

oolala53

Welcome! You might want to introduce yourself on the general discussion board, too, and let people know you started a check-in thread if they want to keep track and cheer you on. I think you are the type of person this program will work for with the least amount of trouble. You don't have a terrible...

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I wrote this for a specific person on her thread but realized it was too long, so I put it here. You can read it now or in my book, coming out in two years, though no publishers know about it and I haven't written it yet. Ha ha. I am not known for my tact, though I don't set out to be mean, so I apo...

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I wrote an incredibly even-longer long post than this and then felt sheepish because this is on your thread, so I transferred it to my daily check in. If anyone wants to read it, please go to June 10 on oolala53's thread. Then I decided even the one I left here was too much, too, for all the world t...

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Wed. awoke again nauseous, but recovered and had a late lunch. Then a late dinner because of an evening event that did not include food. Success! Thurs. Awoke today for the first time not nauseous! Was afraid I would eat the house for breakfast and kept thinking of different things to put on my plat...

oolala53

Things are sounding pretty darn sane here! Congratulations.

oolala53

I know the rule is to put whatever you want on your plate, but you also might experiment with altering the ratio of food densities rather than the plate size. How much of your plate is covered with dense foods such as meats, starchy carbs and fat? No food is bad; it's just that we need them in diffe...

oolala53

Oh, I see. I agree with wosnes. Try to be curious about what does actually happen. You might get not as hungry as you think. But you'll figure it out.

oolala53

If your glucose numbers are up, and your doctor is cautioning you, it probably is imperative that you curtail the eating of sugar. I'm sure even Reinhard would tell you that you should not let No S get in the way of your health needs. However, even he would say we need to have " a fence around the l...

oolala53

Don't feel like a failure for not getting to 24 hours the first time. Are you disappointed because you think you lost out on some weight loss? As Reinhard says, work on the habit first, not getting results. If you run to the scale after fasting, you're not getting an accurate reading of your weight ...

oolala53

Why are you anticipating red days?

oolala53

Two months! That is a long time not to be the mistress of what you eat. Whew, I don't envy you. I've travelled in India and been around cultures and people who have higher expectations about parental influence well into adulthood. Not much support from anyone else gently trying to encourage her to b...

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wosnes, I'd be curious to know what kind of sauce you used, if any on your C & W's. Syrup is out, right? Did you make the waffles from scratch? The mixes I use are rather sweet even on their own. But maybe that is part of the magic with the salty fried chicken. Actually, I'm imagining the dish with ...

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If I had exercised as often as I've watched the P90X infomercial, I'm sure I'd be a few pounds of pure fat down. Ha! I think it sounds like a good program and will definitely get you results. These programs are so nice these days because they include the variety of routines and even take some of the...

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I definitely suggest adding some cheese to your sandwich or just bringing some nuts. I can't believe the difference in how long I am satisfied if I add just about 100 calories' worth of a fat. I know we don't count calories; in amount, it's usually enough cheese to add a thin slice to a regular sand...

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End of the day Tuesday. SUCCESS! I finally stopped feeling hungover and had my first meal of the day at 11:00 a.m. Normal N day meal. Went for an early dinner around 5 pm and could eat only a little over half of what was served. I feel good again. And I think I'll be smarter next weekend. I'm going ...

oolala53

It depends on what you mean by being "fine." Are there people who year after year eat junk and are thin? Yes. Can some people eat terrible diets and stay healthy decade after decade? Yes. Are many people capable of doing this? Probably not. The issue is not the calorie amounts but what constitutes s...

oolala53

Sorry for your slip up. You're right-mark it and move on. I had a horrible weekend from overeating. The effects lasted right up until about 10:30 am TODAY, Tuesday, even though I ate no sweets on Monday. I tell you this because by my evening meal tonight, after eating nothing after my brunch today b...

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I've had some wild S days. Just this last weekend. Ugh, I won't go into it. BUT, on the good ones, I love having pancakes or waffles with syrup. Another lovely thing is being able to eat the samples (only the ones that look really good) at a grocery store or Costco. What I will continue to enjoy is ...

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Just because he was an advocate doesn't mean he actually followed it all the time. And overeating is not officially part of it. Who knows, maybe he had some predisposition that his father didn't have. It's possible the diet extended his life, but we will never know. It won't make me give up on olive...

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Not sure what your question is. Your meals sound fine, except that you say you are not sticking to them. You may legitimately need more food than your bowl will accommodate. Just as Reinhard says to use a smaller plate than the regular 11-inch plate of today's dish sets if a person is not losing, yo...

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Prapad, what exactly is your mother's criticism of No S? Are family occasions all day eating affairs? Are sweets mandatory? You can eat anything except sweets on N days, just as long as they're eaten at meals, unless you are adding rules. But those are yours, not No S's. I think this is one of the m...

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WARNING! This gets very psychological and may be perceived by others as feeling sorry for myself and unnecessarily introspective! I know I've thoguht that myself about myself and others. But it's a way to while away the time. Thank you so much, Shannah and KCCC. I have listened to the S days gone wi...

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See Brad Pilon on bodybuilding and intermittent fasting. Are you looking to compete or just build some muscle to counteract natural atrophy? Remember that this is about sustainability, too. I find the freedom from having to worry about having the right snacks so worth it. But I'm not cut, either. I ...

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Hi, just browsing. I got a pedometer with a tether, which saved me many times, until it went through the wash. There isn't much call for underwater pedometers. Sigh! I'll replace it soon.

Keep up the good work!

oolala53

Am feeling so rotten from my overeating weekend. Why can't I remember this when I'm eating so much? I was astounded the first time I got really drunk (at age 24) and had a terrible hangover to think that boys I knew in high school did it every week! yet I've done this to myself week after week on No...

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Here is a new friend to support you. Here's to sanity!

oolala53

It doesn't sound like you are eating that much during the day, though it is good if you can get from lunch to dinner without snack you chew. But keep working it!

oolala53

So, have you gotten a 3-week pattern of N days and S days down? It is highly recommended that you not use mods until you do. And make sure you are eating foods (besides sweets) that you really want at your meals on N days. You can always get more strict later.

Good luck!

oolala53

See update added to Wed. June 5.

oolala53

You and Reinhard! I like hearing from everybody, especially when they agree with me :lol: , but I respect those with maintenance longevity the most. And I don't even always agree with them! But maintenance, not getting there, is what it is all about, in my book. I've "successfully" lost weight and e...

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I agree with the person who said since you are in your normal BMI range, perhaps you should shoot for a little more exercise to get a bit leaner. A year ago, I weighed aobut the same as I do now, but I was working out more, not even fanatically, and I could wear smaller clothes. I've had a terrible ...

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I know you were venting, but I hope the rest of the time you can find some peace with your body. Ours is not the only culture in the world that prizes thinness, but it's all arbitrary. The fact that we judge each other about it is just evidence of our conditioning, not a true estimation of our worth...

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THURS JUNE 3 I don't know whether I should call this a failure or a sick day (yellow). I had been feeling nauseous for a few days. It went away and hunger came roaring back. Though I put what I thought was the right amount was on my plate for dinner, I was hungry for more later. I almost resent putt...

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I had a successful week right through the weekend. I took Monday as an S day. Officiallly, I didn't fail, but I felt pretty crappy from eating too much. I felt so naseous that I could stomach only one meal on Tuesday and only 2 today, Wed. I've decided in honor of the upcoming summer solstice, I nee...

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I'm envious of how you've found a way to make S events work for you. I love my N days, but I can't figure out how to make my S days more sane. But enough about me. Congrats!

oolala53

Remember to start with N days! And you know what changes you need to be making in those meals to make them more moderate, right?

We're with ya!

oolala53

I love finding out that there is some TV I won't want to watch. I have always thought that she is the worst part of Biggest Loser, but I guess I march to my own drummer, if her popularity is any indication. Caloric restriction is definitely key in weight loss, but nobody that has won the Biggest Los...

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I see you've had a lot of input, but I'll jump in anyway. Not to be a pooh-pooher, but I'd first examine the idea of being addicted to diet Coke. We throw around the term addiction a lot. Maybe your are addicted, but I suggest you think of it more as a habit. You have a strong habit of drinking diet...

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Just trying to figure out: what is wrong with following the IRdiet as is? What's No S for?

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I'm challenging myself to using S day mods along with Vanilla N days at least until the summer solstice, which is June 21 this year. That will also coincide with a new 21-day streak for me, which would be my first after perfect vanilla No S from jan. 1st until april. I haven't figured out what the m...

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Your vacation plan sounds fun and moderate. Perfect for life.

oolala53

Actually, it's up to you what days you regard as exempt days. Reinhard says you should allow for family birthdays and such for social reasons, as No S is about having eating work with life, and I'd say you can take such days as exempt right up to the last minute, but you can also decide you will ski...

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Personally, I think the 21-day thing is way underestimating how long it takes. However, for your purposes, I think you are very close to having the habit. One or two failures a month is not bad. It's not ideal, but goodness what were you doing 8 or 10 months ago? I know the month before I started I ...

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Eating once a day is not No S. And being hungry ALL the time is not No S. Some petite women may eat only one meal a day, but I think for most of those women, that's all they are legitimately hungry for. You are not meant to force yourself to do that. It seems to me you should be able to eat 900-1000...

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You don't HAVE to cover your plate with food. Reinhard implied in his book that we are supposed to learn from the experience meal after meal of the relationship between what the meals look like and how much food we really need. You don't have to use even smaller plates. Just start slightly reduce yo...

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Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:40 pm
What is carb cycling? Is it specific days where you eat more carbs and less carbs?

exactly. It is a technique commonly used by body builders for fat loss.

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WARNING: I MAY SOUND CONTRARIAN, BUT NOT MEANT TO BE! I HOPE TO ENGENDER DISCUSSION ONLY, AS I FIND THIS ONE OF THE SANEST BOARDS I'VE ENCOUNTERED! Dare I imply that some of the failures and greater hunger and such are actually somehow connected to the fasting? I'm not saying it's wrong to do, as I'...

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Was green all last week. Pig out Sat. Low profile Sunday. Weight up on Monday, 5/24. got discouraged by that, by school, by kids. Way failed.

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