Everyday Systems

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Hey Donna, You're not the only person who's succummed to excessive workplace food. Oten people bring in cake, doughnuts, etc. for birthdays, promotions, and so forth. Used to be when I saw that, I'd just take as much as I want.. like 2 or 3 doughnuts. If this happened once in a blue moon, it wouldn'...

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And, of course, there is much more to dieting (especially No-S) than just looks. I, for one, find a woman who cares about her health and takes care of herself to be very attractive, regardless of the specific body shape. And I know I'm not alone in that sentiment...

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Donna, I agree that no sweets ever is unrealistic for most people (especially me!) Going overboard on the weekend is OK. Actually, I can already see it's done some good- you went a little wild, and are now a bit disgusted with yourself, it seems. That's a great way to get back into the groove for th...

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One thing I've found important is to identify the specific problems and then come up with specific solutions to them. Back before the No-S days, I used to raid the company vending machine frequently. Around the same time I started No-S, I realized what a problem was, so to help me with the "No Snack...

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I don't watch much TV either... but when I do, here's one more situation where water can be helpful. I drink water while watching, and then by the time the commercials come around, I have to leave to go to the bathroom anyway.

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Sugarless gum is a good emergency measure too (plus, you'll have good breath.

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Something else, it's OK to be hungry! I've found that if I'm actually hungry when I eat a meal, it makes the meal so much better.

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I'm with Jan - most of the time I make a weekly menu and get everything at Kroger. But I don't do this all the time... Sometimes though I get exotic and go to a Mexican or Indian grocery store and attempt to prepare some international cuisine. If I stumble upon the farmer's market, sometimes I'll se...

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Write me at home and tell me what nasty thing I just called you! Interesting, I've also heard it mean something different too. i had never heard it until I went up north for college. Massachusetts and north, it tends to be a term of frustration.. such as "This weather is a pisser" or "No parking? P...

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Veggie pizza? That sounds fine if it's part of a meal. I have pizza for meals quite frequently - and veggie is one of my favorite pizzas (minus the black olives..)

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Later, we're gonna have some Godiva Chocolate. Mmmmmm.......

I have had exactly 1 piece of Godiva in my life... (the people who gave it to me said the box was too expensive for us to eat more than one!) so you better enjoy it!

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I'd say No-S can work fine for you. It works as a maintenance plan, and even when I'm at my ideal weight (not too far away..!) I plan on staying on this stuff for maintenance. It can certainly get rogue eating under control. The sweets is probably the most important (and was the most difficult for m...

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Seriously, prevention is the key here. EVen when I was in college, this was never really a problem - the one time I did oversleep for a class, oddly enough, was a 12:00 class! (Never missed my 8:45 ones...) Anyhow, a good alarm clock, getting to bed at a reasonable time, keeping a sane schedule, etc...

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There's just somethign satisfying about walking to the store... it's as if when you eat the food, you feel like you've really earned it.

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How long it takes depends on a lot of things - how well you stick to the plan, whether you also add in some exercise, how much weight you really have to lose... and probably several others. As for me, it has taken me nearly 2-1/2 years to work off about 30 lbs., and I estimate I have maybe another 1...

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I'm with y'all on the stairs thing. I work on the second floor of my building, so many days it's just one flight up and one flight down - but sometimes I'll come in through the rear entrance - which goes to the basement and hence is another flight. And if I have the need to go to another floor, I'll...

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know this flies in the face of all those nutritional gurus who need secret miracle foods to impart to stay in business -- but that's precisely why I don't trust them. While that's true, many reputable nutritionalists and so forth back you up on this - the "Wellness Letter" mini-magazine I get has b...

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You need to come up with an everyday system for keeping computers from crashing. Now THAT would be mighyl popular!

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It's been a while since an update here... so much so my topic moved off onto page 2. :shock: Can't be having that, now. Anyway, like Deb and some others here, I had a "plateau" for a while. But after about a month of staying about the same, I'm finally down, from 174 to 171. We'll see next week it s...

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I agree with the "do something else" sentiment - it can keep your mind of of being hungry.

Chewing gum (sugar-free, of course

) can help.

In many cases, you can prevent being too hungry by timing your meals properly and figuring out what portion sizes work best for you.

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MJ, you're probably right about losing slower becuase you don't have as far to go. I've noticed that I lost more quicky in the beginning, when I was 40 lbs overweight, but now that I'm within 15 of where I (probably) need to be, I'm losing much more slowly.

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I believe this deserves a "Woot woot!"

And think, how many people lose weight on *Fat* Tuesday??

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Just to clarify - GOOD luck!

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Ahh, Girl Scout cookies and Boy Scout popcorn... the bane of my existence!! However, here's an interesting suggestion - why not buy the cookies and donate a box or two to a food bank or homeless shelter? They sure do appreciate it, and it removes temptation for you to eat them all in one sitting (I ...

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PB is great - it probably has enough benefits to outweight its negatives. I have a PB&J for lunch every now and then... nice cheap eats! There is a Jif plant here in town, and some days I can smell the faint smell of peanut butter coming from that plant as I walk out the door in the morning. Jif and...

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I've kept the nighttime eating thing under control a couple ways.. first is to eat a decent dinner at a decent time. If I eat nothing but a PB&J at 5pm right after I get home from work, that becomes trouble later on. That and I try to have something good and interesting for breakfast. SO even if I g...

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I guess I have mixed opinions here. It does sound like the guy was rude and probably a bit harsh in dealing with you. That being said, most contractors really don't like anyone to "micromanage" them, so to speak. And, of course, it should be expected that making changes midway through will cost more...

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My S-days are probbaly worse than most. Nevertheless, I kind of have a rough guideline about which S-es I end up taking. Generally, if I feel like I'd be deprived without it, then I'll go on and do it. So for me about the only S I indulge in regularly is Sweets. Sometimes I go a little overboard - S...

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Hi Tricia!
You look very pretty!!!
I think you should walk around with a red fuzzy boa all the time!
Red is your color!

Great to see you!

Agreed. Shame you're already married.

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NoS was just fine today, and I did four hours of shovelling snow, with only a twenty minute break for a small lunch... Oy-a-yoy!!! I bet you were wearing gloves when you did this, too. So does that make it another form of shovelglove ? 8) Happy VD! .. err... Valentine's Day that is... :shock:

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Yes, but there is a reason for that.. the early church considered Christ's death more worthy of celebration, and his birth wasn't really celebrated until a few centuries later. AT that time, there were attempts to calculate when his birth actually was and came up with the December 25 date. But regar...

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Nope, fake holidays don't count as S days for me.

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How much exercise I do a week varies by the week, but a typical week is something like this: Strength training at the gym (usually split into 2 30 minute sessions for convenience) Some running, usually 10 minutes at a time, once or twice a week. Sometimes an odd 5K (30 minutes) thrown in on the week...

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While going through a bunch of folders and paperwork (heh, tax time!) I discovered some old records from cholesterol screenings. I had one before no-S, and then one from last year, which is about 1 year after I started No-S-ing. The results were striking. I disocovered some other losses I've had: To...

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Me: somewhere between 25 and 30 lbs (depending on the day), over a period of a little more than 2 years. I still have about 10-15 to go before I consider myself somewhere close to "ideal".

It seems like somebody asks this question again every now and then, but I never get tired of answering.

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I'm all over my virus in less than 72 hours, which is a miracle and a testament to the power of raw garlic!!! Thank God! I hate being sick, don't you? LOL... I figured that garlic would be a good at preventing you from getting sick. My own personal testimony; after I've had garlic of any kind, nobo...

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It's somehwat unusual for me to do that, but when I do I tend to enjoy it (even if my feet are a little sore!) Aside from hiking, the last time I did that was when my car was in the shop and I needed to catch a bus to get to the dealer. Instead of catching a bus close by and then transferring, I jus...

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How about sugar-free gum? That's what I use when I can't brush, though I also tend to be a compulsive brusher.

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I'd say it's borderline... you did say it wasn't one of the chocolate covered ones, so that's good. I'd check the ingredients, though... if "sugar", "high fructose corn syrup" or anything like that is near the top, it's probably pretty sugar laden. I treat them kind of like cereal.. certain types ce...

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Pages happen automatically if there are enough replies to your topic. I think it happens when there are 25 replies or something like that. In other words, you can't make one on your own, they just happen magically. So over time, as you and others keep "replying" to your topic and it gets longer, eve...

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Glad you're back, I think it took most of us here several tries before we really got it right. Heck, I've been doing this 2 years and I still mess up every now and then...

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I don't know Twisted Evil , but why wouldn't you want to celebrate Australia. Got nothing against Australia. I'd like to visit it sometime, actually, though driving on the "wrong" side of the road might take some getting used to. :) I have to draw the line at celebrating other country's holidays as...

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Coppertone sport is not too bad - I usually use SPF 30, and it doesn't run into your eyes as bad as most of the other stuff.

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If you figure that out, let me know! I've been trying to be better about that myself recently.. I remember an acronym from something else - Today, Not Tomorrow (TNT), and I'm experimenting to see if this can be applied to the mess that becomes my tables and desks and folders if I just ignore stuff. ...

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26 lbs and counting.

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I'm another example of the "slow loser". I've been doing this over 2 years, and I've lost about 1 lb a month (so even slower than you! Maybe chocolate for breakfast on Saturdays has something to do with that, but I digress...) While it doesn't sound like much, do the math and discover it adds up ove...

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I have dropped all that weight... Perhaps even a little more, but I'm not totally sure, since I weighed in at a little later time of the day... Way to go! And to think, you're way ahead of most people who have by now already broken their "lose weight" New Years resolutions, too... Your persistence ...

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And what's even more interesting... this was happening to my cats to an extent, and with the guidance of my vet, my cats are now doing their own version of No-s! Instead of free-feeding them and just filling the bowl when it gets low, I give them two discreet meals a day. They never get table scraps...

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Woohoo, survived the holidays pretty much unscathed. I'm at around 174, which is very close to my lowest. Aside from two small pieces of candy a co-worker brought in from Brazil, last week was pretty good. Sure is nice to be able to go into the office and not be bombarded with a bunch of cookies and...

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PS... Day 6...pick up sticks!!!

Now there's a good upper-body workout that will help you get those muscles in your arms. Just make sure they're not pretzel sticks.

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Yeah, echo what Jan said. Vegetables, of course, are good for you, but the idea is to eat them instead of some less savory part of your diet, not in addition. So if you want more veggies, make room for them on that plate by having less of something else like meat/bread/etc. Come to think of it, I th...

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While this might work for some people, I know it won't work for me. I make most of my purchases by credit card - mostly for convenience (I nearly always pay it off at the end of the month, unless something dra stic happens) and to make it easier to track where my money is going. As far as change, I ...

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Sometimes its hard to do with my mind still thinking about good and bad foods. Actually, just add one word in that sentence and it will help you out tremendously... Sometimes its hard to do with my mind still thinking about good and bad tasting foods. Seriously, if you know your next meal is going ...

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Cynthia- Well, I guess the question is, what information are you coming up with, and where is it coming from? Is it scientific studies? Sites/companies/people promoting their own agenda (such as their own weight loss programs)? Friends? Chain e-mails? If it is scientific studies, I'd be curious to k...

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One thing I've done is to try and do a good job of planning meals ahead. That way, for instance if I know I'm going to be really hungry and not want to take a long time making a meal, I can plan something easy, or plan something that I can make in advance then just warm up. I then save those extrava...

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And I should have made clear that I was inviting other No S folks to share their resolutions, if any!

I resolve to change the filter on my furnace. Hey, I want to make sure I don't go making resolutions I can't keep.

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Anyway, I lost another 1.5 pounds.

That's great Drusky!!! Very Happy

Especially considering what time of year it is. Way to go!

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Whew! Good thing I started this No-S stuff in a November.

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eat on Christmas eve?? Chinese! LOL..

That also sounds like "A Christmas Story".

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Well, last week was pretty good. A co-worker dumped a tin of cookies (surplus from a cookie swap) in my office Monday. And throughout the week, I haven't had a SINGLE ONE. I've given most away, though there are still some that await me tomorrow. The cookie incident seems to have translated to the sc...

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I'm a grumpy old man (29). At a party in New Hampshire about 2 years ago a few friends and I were discussing weight loss strategies, and one of those in the discussion happened to be a friend of Reinhard's and a No-S proponent. I did the No-S thing for a while, several months probably, before readin...

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I went back to my nasty habit of CHOCOLATE. Not a little at a time, but bags at a time. You're not the only one. :) That's why No-S has been working well for me though - I know I can have all the chocolage I want, I just have to wait till the weekends. As for getting through the week, I will avoid ...

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#2 is genuinely hard. If you're going to fail, save your failures for this. I've found that "oh, that looks great. But I'm stuffed right now. Maybe later." gets me off the hook most of the time. That or (depending on what it is) saving it and taking it home. But still it's tough.. I'm battling a ti...

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Well, the thing is, you live in Minnesota. So these days probably happen all the time, right?

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Haven't posted here in a while... anyway, at the end of this week, I'm at 175 (maybe a little closer to 174). This is a major accomplishment... although Thanksgiving weekend itself was decent for me (the 5K and some hiking helped offset the mass quantities of food on Thursday), the following weeks w...

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How do you get your muscles working?

Start playing hockey.

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Hey Julie -

MY two cents: in general tea would be fine, if it's something like green tea or unsweetened tea. Sweet tea is a little more borderline, I guess it depends on how much sugar you put in it.

Now Long Island Iced Tea, that probably *would* be considered a snack.

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My biggest challenges are (1) saying no to alcohol when out with friends; and (2) finding polite ways to refuse food that's offered, such as when someone bakes a cheesecake and brings it to work. My sense of "oooh, look, it's delicious and homemade and free AND someone else cooked it!" poses a *pow...

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All my pants are falling down and my boxers are showing!

Nah, that'll be normal when you become a teenager.

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Yeah Dru, what Deb said, congrats and stuff! I noticed a similar drop in cholesterol in myself after losing the first 10 lbs or so.. it's as if my body had some threshhold of fat it could endure, and I had crossed that line. And it has remained pretty steady (at normal levels) since... though I prob...

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Don't beat yourself up about the exercise.. It's not productive thinking...

Hmm, or maybe you *should* beat yourself up. Beating yourself up is exercise, isn't it?

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you can't get beaten in Chess if you don't have to make the next move!

Well, your clock will run out though and you'll lose that way.

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I hope I'm rewarded with something besides the constant starving feeling. Sometimes it feels like I'm always going to be overweight no matter what I do. Crying or Very sad Anyone got a hankie? I know how you feel. For me too, this whole thing was difficult at first... but for me, and for most peopl...

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Well, this week wasn't bad at all. Ended up at 175. I've certainly been losing more slowly this last year than I did the first year, but still losing, so I won't complain. :) Next week will be interesting... in addition to Thanksgiving, a few co-workers got promoted last week and might bring in doug...

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I had a push-mower for a while, and it was great exercise. They're cheap nd pretty quiet, too. The only problem is that it did a bad job of cutting any non-grass items (e.g., weeds) and grass that had gotten too tall. Of course, with due dilligence both of those situations can be avoided, but it can...

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What about swimming? Of course, if you're in a cast or something, then that won't work. :oops: Perhaps you could do some abdominal type exercises... those could run the gamut from plain ol' sit-ups to using one of those exercies balls to Shovelglove (maybe) to the machines at the gym. Something like...

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As Yogi Bera once said, it is 50% physical, and 90% mental. Keep working on setting up those good habits, and stuff like that becomes less common.

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I don't want to obsess over numbers on a machine, but I actually think I'd stress less with daily readings; I could then get more accurate, consistent readings, especially given the amount that weight can fluctuate on a daily/weekly/hourly basis. Plus if you're on the same scale, even if it's a lit...

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I'm celebrating over @ Club 21!

No shame in that! Congrats.

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Well, stayed about the same this week, maybe a slight loss (just under 176.) Not too bad of a week.. I was able to resist the barrage of leftover Halloween candy at work by taking a little bit home and saving it until just a few minutes ago. 8) Better start running agian... another 5K is coming up T...

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Congrats! Make sure you have a nice treat this weekend.

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The Prodigalsun has returned!

(Sorry, *someone* had to say it.)

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Well, at 1 am, when the choices in front of you are 1. Halloween candy 2. A bowl of cereal 3. A few gulps of orange juice I am just happy it wasn't the first two! LOL.... Laughing Your choice was certainly better than what I might have chosen: putting the orange juice on the cereal and then having ...

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I thought a pound was a unit of money in Britian?

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Another church function last night, was able (barely) to step away from the cookies. Congrats on that- free cookies are the downfall of many a weight-loss program. I had a similar situation at work where some vendors were giving away cookies and office supplies. I was able to resist the cookies, an...

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I'm not sure, but I don't think there's any No-S restrictions against crack pipes, so at least you're OK in that regard.

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Hmm, I wonder which is more likely - getting mugged/hit by a car while walking home from work, or having a heart attack due to lack of exercise? Not sure if that argument will assuage your family's fears, but it's worth a shot. :) Also, to state the obvious - do you have any control over your hours ...

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Darn it. Haven't seen anyone ELSE start over twice on this board, but I intend to.

Are you kidding me? Most of us would be lucky to only have to start over twice. Most of us here have started over several times! You're doing fine.

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I tend to agree with you guys. The one exception I make is sugar-free gum. The only reason I chew gum anyway is either if my breath is horrendous or if I ate a meal and can't brush my teeth. Chewing gum with sugar would defeat the purpose.

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I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.

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Well, I was doing some yardwork this weekend and was wondering how good of a workout doing various yardwork tasks were. So I had to look it up and found out, per hour: Raking leaves: about 330 calories Pulling weeds: about 360 calories Mowing with a manual push-mower: about 490 calories Mowing with ...

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Yeah, what CaroleJo said. For instance, I tend to put dried fruit in with my cereal at breakfast and don't consider it a problem. Now if I eat a bag of dried mixed tropical fruits inbetween meals, now that becomes a problem.

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Well, I really am back on track. How about that? Weight now is 176, which is what I was before I went on vacation. The weather has been quite pleasant this week, so I biked to work 4 days this week (the other day was hockey day.) Now, it's time to get a few more good weeks under my belt before the h...

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That sounds a lot like my pre-no-S seafood diet. That diet goes, if I see food, I eat it.

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Of course, Dilbert ranks near the top. Off the mark is pretty good too (http://www.offthemark.com), very Far Side-esque.

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Yeah, good luck with that! I've driven (even long distances) with my cats before but never flown. Yeah, do everything in your power to get her to fly with you as carry-on. Sometimes if somebody says they're allergic they wont' let you, I wonder though in that case if you could volunteer to be bumped...

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gratefuldeb67 wrote:Thanks Carrieanne!
Richard had so much candy last night he ended up telling me he thought he was going to barf!

Boy do I miss those childhood days.

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Hey, a couple of my insights, for what they're worth. :) Before I did no-S I too used to snack all the time. For me it was typically the time between breakfast and lunch that got me. Different people on tihs board have taken different approaches, and both can work. Me, I just tried to make my meals ...

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Yeah, I think Deb has it right. Get a picture and make sure it is about the same size as other people's avatars, and upload it. You can scale it using Windows Paint if you need to.

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The cinnamon raisin ones are (were) my favorite. (uuurp...)

I'd post an update, but I'd rather not try and quantify my results after this vacation.

I'll get back on track next week.

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By popular request, here is a "during" picture of Deb and Richard:

Not bad, eh?

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