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Hmmm yes it's a tricky one with kids and food isn't it. I don't have any great advice, but the way you are modelling such a normal and balanced way of eating is certainly something that you should be proud of! Sounds good about the maintenance plan..better than feeling like it's too strict or you're...

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Oh right..sounds quite intense. It will be interesting to see what they find in July. Yes I understand the visitor thing..we have moved from where we grew up and often get visitors, some are fantastic and some are painful but it always always nice to have the house back to yourselves again..enjoy! S...

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I agree with osoniye about oats..I love them, but they just don't seem to fill me for long..I have discovered if I have them along with some boiled eggs and yogurt it can satisfy my hunger for longer though. It's all experimenting , and those hard days can be helpful to realise that you can survive ...

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Thanks Oolala, I can see how the dip could cause some pain or injury. I seem to be going ok with the move..I credit a month or so of Shovelglove for building up my shoulder strength. I may give your suggestion a go..even if it's just to mix things up a bit.

Hope you are well.

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Green x 3. I will have done my 2nd 21days on Monday so I'm feeling very pleased. I'm not sure if I should aim for another 21 days or set myself a new challenge like 1 month straight..I'll have a think over weekend. I feel very solid with my habits but I don't want to get cocky. I feel lighter..after...

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Welcome. Your s day sounds very tame to me!

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Ha..yes I step on a very sturdy hard wood coffee table. I've done it 2 days in a row and I can feel it!

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Thanks Jackn. Thanks Kaalii.. Some of my best meals have been created out of 'nothing' for sure. Today green x 3. I've got another 21days under my belt in 4 days I think..it's helping me resist a sweet actually, I was close to having a biscuit with my children today but I remembered how close I was ...

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I love my 14mins of Shovelglove but sometimes I like to do something different so I don't get bored. For some reason this week I haven't been wanting to do my S 'Glove (I have been sick), so I typed in 14min workout and found this, thought it may be of interest to someone. I don't rest in between as...

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I know what you're feeling e-lyn! I just had a similar conversation with my mum about her latest diet..and got off the phone feeling awful. Then I remembered that this time speaking to mum it's the I quit sugar, last year it was weight watchers, before that low GI..I've watched my mum diet since I w...

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Hey Linda..what procedure are you having done..tried to have a look back back couldn't see. Is it a procedure to find out what's happening? Or to fix/cure the reflux..and when is it happening? Sorry for the 20 questions! I remember you saying about more tests... Hope you're enjoying your visitors. I...

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Nice one mestahl! I've been back and forth with no s and like you I'm finding this time easier..it's just clicked.
Good luck with it all and I agree this is really the best way of eating..I've tried all the other ways too!!!

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Thanks Jen..no fun at all! Feel slightly better today, my son was home sick so I had to take the day off work.. we had a nice relaxing day together and I think he'll be well enough for school tomorrow. I went for a few walks today, I seem to feel better in the fresh air.. I also stuck to my 3 meals ...

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Excellent! Yes..the habit will kick in and you won't even think about eating between meals if you keep going and going... I'm there now with my habits but I'm still eating full meals..I'm in this mainly for healing my disordered eating..I feel sure weight loss will come later when I'm ready and my b...

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Fantastic testimonial..really loved reading this and find it very inspiring..thank you!!

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Yes that's so true isn't it Jen..it depends on your mindset and attitude! And readiness to be balanced and normal with food! As wonderful as No S is, and it is the best!!, if you're in the old "diet mentality-gotta lose weight no matter what- mindset" it too can be just like all the other diets..as ...

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Thanks Kaalii xx

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Fantastic work Kaalii! You are doing so well. It's those hard hungry days you get through that are really rewarding. I love that you love recycling and not wasting..We always go to the 'brockenhaus' when we visit Switzerland..the quality of things is so much better than here in Australia... We got a...

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Wow..thanks for all the kind words lovely people! I really do love this forum..so supportive. I'm not well..just not feeling myself still and I had a call from school to pick up my son..and he's worse than I am! Poor baby..so I've made soup, put him in a seperate room from my other son..fingers cros...

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It's great to be able to witness a 'normal eater' isn't it Jen..someone who hasn't been messed up with diet rubbish! My sons are fascinating to me also..they both eat differently- one likes lots of small meals and one likes big full meals less often but they both will just stop eating if they've had...

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Good on you liz..I love your meals..they sound satisfying and nourishing. I find that the good thing with no s is it's strict but fair..it's just 'life', there is nothing to go off of..slip ups are just that and we learn from them and work out what suits us best. I had an awful s day last Saturday b...

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Thanks Jen and Linda for your comments. :D My weekend has been polar opposite to last..I haven't officially changed my 'no s' to s events..I'm still vanilla no s I guess but my mindset has shifted. I have eaten my 3 very generous meals a day and yesterday I shared a bite of brownie at a cafe with my...

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Hi phosphorus..I've also been thinking about this, I want to have clear boundaries though...so I'm thinking about "S events" rather than s days. I have found that during the week..especially socially..I've declined some beautiful 'sweet moments' shared with others that would have been enjoyable and ...

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Great that you all can get something useful from that site..I look forward to more writing from her. And yes Kaalii, I can t relate to all she writes..I wouldn't exactly call myself a serious problem binge eater but having been on a diet of some kind for the past 25 years (eeeek!!) I've been a picke...

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Sorry Jackn, I've had technical difficulties logging on for some reason..a message comes up about cookies too large or something? Then I logged in with my phone and wrote you a long reply to your question about the audio and I can see now it didn't come through.. So I'll try again :oops: I listen to...

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I love everything you wrote linda..I've been having trouble logging onto the forum..(it says "cookies too large" or something) so I'm sorry for the late reply. I have had the same thought about my s days too..I was thinking along the same lines of 'just focus on 3 generous nourishing meals each and ...

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Its an amazing site isnt it!!! I almost cried with relief when i first discovered it..I cant wait for more of her writing! And so compatible with no s. Thanks Jen..yes i was thinking about how you wrote about eating 3 meals a day you really love so there's no need to 'make up for anything' come s da...

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Hi Jackn..I'm sure you've heard it all and had people give lots of advice (so take this or leave this) but I've just recently discovered podcasts or audio books to help me sleep. I go through periods of having trouble sleeping and I just found listening to audio books puts me right to sleep! It's go...

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Fatigue and pms..double whammy! Good luck with your tests, let us know how it goes. Hopefully they can give you some answers. It's hard to accept our weight some days..especially pms days!! Try be kind to yourself at this time..you've got a lot going on and (not that it's for me to say) your red day...

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Was there anything that triggered your anxious feelings Kaalii? Or just one of those days..we all have them.

It's lovely you got some joy from your forest walk..making me jealous again!! Haha..hope you feel less anxious tomorrow.

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Thanks Jackn and Ipearlmom! Yes love my breakfasts lately..after my wild s day on Saturday I decided to return to meals that have more substance and fat in them and see if eating that way helps any on my s days..I think I was trying to eat a little less at meals last week and..bam! Wild s day..so I'...

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Hope you're doing ok ironchef.

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Yes I agree..such a great thing you could just enjoy the banana bread (I loooove banana bread!) and move on as normal. Good on you! That's such testament to well ingrained No S habits! I'm sorry to hear about your reflux..must be so frustrating! And I agree..the electronics is a constant bribery too...

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Green for all 3 habits today. I played 2 games of netball today I was asked straight after finishing my game to fill in so I'm counting that as my 14 mins because I'm sore but feel great. I walked to a friends house then we walked up to pick our children up from school so that's my park walk. Feelin...

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Yes they do both matter Jackn..the what and the why. You are so right..it's about much more than figure..hmmmm Things to ponder.. or not..today was a normal n day..green for all 3 habits and it just felt normal and no thought required at all so I'm just going to keep on going and in a month or 2 if ...

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You poor thing..I'm certainly not looking forward to the teenage years. Are you sick also?
Yes tomorrow will definitely be better..good luck xx

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Thank you lovely people for the good advice. I know it's all par for the course and there is no point being too concerned about s days..I guess it's just strange that I feel so solid with my n days..yet yesterday I felt so out of control. It was also not just what I ate but HOW I ate.. Today was a m...

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Thanks linda and rawcookie..yes it was good to save the cake (it was delicious..I'm not sure of the recipe I'm sorry!) but I've had a hideous over the top s day and I'm feeling really annoyed with myself..! I've had the custard cake, some lollies, chocolate and 2 serves of ice cream apple pie and cu...

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Nice one Linda! It always feels good to get things done around the house. I like your 30 day challenge idea..all the best. How is your reflux going? I get it from time to time and its horrible. I've been diagnosed with fructose intolerance and have been advised to follow the fodmap diet (no wheat ry...

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Good on you 1984man! It's an impressive amount to lose but I'm more impressed by (and focusing on myself) you focusing on habits rather than weight loss, as it's really the only thing we can control.

All the best on your continued journey with No S!

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Thanks for the encouragement Jackn and Ipearlmom and Kaalii! Much appreciated. Yes power of habit is working..Though I found today hard as I was tired from a late night and, being Friday, I just struggled a little with cravings..but I ate an extra big lunch. In the afternoon I made a tea with sugar ...

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I've only checked out the top link but I really like it..especially the sun salute which I'm hoping to incorporate into my 14mins each morning. An hour is fine every now and then if I feel like it but I'm really enjoying achieving my 14mins of 'anything' each N day.

Thanks again!

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That's hard! Look after yourself as best you can.

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Thanks for writing this Jen..I've been reading your blog and thoroughly enjoying it! I've recommitted to vanilla no s for 1month and have had no fails, but haven't lost a single gram of weight so your story gives me comfort..I'm like you I just want to be regular and consistent with food and be at f...

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Thanks Jackn. Yes I'm able to 'risk' eating a little less at a meal, as I know I can handle hunger, but I'm still careful to err on the side of more for the time being as I'm really determined this is for life. And if it takes me a year to lose a single kilogram then so be it. Yesterday was green fo...

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Awesome Jackn..thanks. Looking forward to checking them out

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50 days Jackn! Fantastic. Sorry if you've mentioned but with your yoga video..is that off youtube or a site or a personal video? I woke up this morning and felt the need to do yoga instead of Shovel Glove then went for a walk..it felt really good doing yoga and i was thinking i would like to do more...

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I just realised I've made my 21 days of greens and no reds!! I haven't lost any weight but I feel sane, well and balanced..thanks No S.
I'm going to go for 21 more now!! And then again and then again....

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Welcome Sillymonkey, you're story sounds like mine too. All the best and congrats on your first Mother's Day..very special.

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Yes love your posts kaalii..although it makes me jealous thinking of your forest walks

You are doing really well,that's great.

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Interesting about your weight Jackn..I feel I've got more muscle and my body has changed slightly but no weight loss at all even though I've had perfect compliance. Fortunately I'm healthy and fit and I'm feeling sane with food..I really do. I also feel well and my moods and energy are balanced..so ...

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Green today for all 3 habits. I almost didn't do 14mins SG but I ended up doing it before my netball game as a pre-warm up..so I'm very proud of myself because I did it even though I had a million excuses why not. Had a really hard game of netball tonight, we were thrashed but it was really fun and ...

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Very inspiring! Thank you for sharing chentegt. Out of curiosity..how are your s days after all this time..? I haven't read your past posts so I'm not sure if you ever had issues with them..but I was thinking today about asking long term no s's their experiences with s days now after long term maint...

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You have a lovely way of writing Jackn..like poetry

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Yes thanks jackn, it was a group run held every year on Mother's Day for cancer research. I have an injured foot from netball so I planned to just walk it but got caught up in the adrenalin I guess and ran the whole way. We ended up seeing a movie and then dinner at home as we were all tired, but we...

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Thanks Jackn..appreciate it. I'm feeling really solid with my n day habits and trying to trust the process regarding s days calming down. I actually am not craving sweets but I'm grazing through the day on s days and I'm finding it really dissatisfying...yet I keep doing it. I know s days are import...

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Of course cheese! How could I forget the cheese? I'm not a huge cheese person or chocolate but I do enjoy a little of both (dark 70% Lindt..perfection). Yes I really love visiting Switzerland, it's such a clean crisp stunning country..but it's really seeing my husband (and our children) meeting with...

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Haha..so gorgeous!!

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Good Luck kaalii! My mother in law is Swiss and lives in Winterthur..do you know it? I always find when we are there I lose weight as it seems to be very much 3 meals no snacking and lots of walking, so perfectly fits with no s..although they love chocolate and alcohol! It's a lovely supportive foru...

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Green x 3. Looking forward to a nice piece of cake tomorrow!
Feeling good

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Green x 3.

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Yes I liked this article, thanks. I worked with a 95yr old lady today, took her shopping. She purchased vegetables, meat (with bones so she could get the broth), dairy, fruit, oats and cereal. Nice slim lady, still lives at home and has only just needed someone to help drive her to the shops, she us...

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I think the great thing about no s is you don't really have to explain anything.. unless you want to. Meals look 'normal', if offered to eat Ill say "thanks but I've had a big lunch (breakfast) but I would love a tea/coffee" I don't think people care as much as we think they do..

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Beautiful! Thanks for sharing Jackn

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Green today for all 3 habits

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Good on you ceo418!

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I was just thinking about this SpiritSong. I've been experimenting with different ratios of food at certain meals, and have discovered I am someone who sleeps well NOT going to bed hungry. I tend to have a smaller breakfast decent lunch and decent dinner. I'm only just beginning to feel comfortable ...

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Green today

Missed park walk as it was raining but played netball so great to be active plus did 14mins SG. I marked red on calendar fir failing to do park walk as I'm determined to be 'comically strict".
3 meals..no snacks no sweets no seconds

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My s days were a bit over the top. I was feeling quite down about them but when I stopped and thought about how much I actually did eat it really wasn't that over the top..it's really just because my eating was not seperated into 3 distinct meals that it feels like I just overate the whole weekend. ...

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Your S days look great rawcookie...i was a bit of an 's idiot' on the weekend but back into my n days now. Have a great week.

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Good topic..I've found this works for me.. rolled oats just softened with hot water or milk with a big dollop of Greek yogurt with nuts and banana on top, with a boiled egg on the side..I have coffee first thing and a hot water and then I can wait about an hour to eat. For some reason if I cook oats...

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Today has been hard..!!!! I've been cruising along nicely, but today was just one of those days that I could have just picked and grazed all day long. My children had a pupil free day so I had to take the day off work and it just felt like Saturday..I also hardly had any sleep last night so I felt t...

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Green today x3 habits -no s; 14mins sg and walk around park

Feeling great, I'm loving my very basic 'normal' meals..like a simple sandwich plus yogurt and fruit (like a normal person!!!) and dinner a chicken and veg pie with vegies and mash potato on the side..delish!

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I find it amusing, since recommitting to no s, how much food I've been offered outside of meals. I've been offered muffins at a course, a biscuit put on my plate when having a cup of tea with a client, my neighbour dropping over her lovely bread and butter pudding..my favourite!! I just had a job wi...

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Nice one moderatemeals..this is something I tend to do..grab a bite or two off my plate before I sit down..but I like how No S gently pushes you in that direction anyway. As you only get 3 plates a day..best make the most of each one.

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Thanks osoniye..it's waiting patiently in the freezer for me to enjoy on Saturday. This time around I feel I'm having more successful S days because I'm making note during the week of treats I want to enjoy on my S days. Today green success for all habits. 3 meals no snacks no sweets no seconds 14mi...

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Congrats on your 10 year anniversary. Looks like your S events are working well so far, enjoy.

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All the best Joyday.. You are in the right place, I'm a (returning) newly committed no S'er and am really focusing on habits first like Ipearlmom says which is really important, as this is for life.
Welcome and good luck.

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Thanks ironchef and jackn. I feel really solid with my No S which is great. It's my sons birthday today and I made (as requested) chocolate mud cake..I normally would take an S day, and think that it's important to do so as that's real life, but I'm feeling really determined to get my 21days under m...

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It's a shame isn't it..my husbands family is in Switzerland, and while it's still quite strong, the 3 meals a day routine, slowly things are changing such as not all shops close for the lunch hour and children don't all come home for lunch as mothers are working more.
Thankfully NoS exists!!

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Great article, thanks.
Just curious is this true in your France too? Or is it still mainly the traditional 3 meals per day I've always read about..

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Yes I always resisted "strictness" and discipline..I was very much into intuitive eating and allowing all foods whenever whatever etc...but I'm really enjoying the clear boundaries of no s rules..for someone who is prone to thinking and analysing things wayyyyy too much ( my poor husband!!) it's suc...

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Great advice iron chef about sticking to vanilla no s for a long while before adding any mods.
I've read your testimonials and you are a big inspiration to me to stick to no s (and being a fellow Aussie helps too

) so thanks.

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Weekend was great..not too wild at all..and while I didn't think about it at the time I pretty much stuck to meals with sweet endings rather than all day snacking. It's actually a public holiday today but I am not taking an s day, I'm happy and determined to really get this no s habit set in stone a...

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Fantastic solid advice (as always) Oolala..that's really what I'm focusing on..3 meals a day vanilla No S (plus 14 mins of Shovelglove and a daily walk around the park with my children..) of course I would love to step on the scale and see 5kgs gone one day, but I really honestly can say that even i...

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Nice one Imogen. I agree..Fridays are hard..there is a different vibe to other nights for sure. I white knuckled through last night too..proud of myself when I woke up this morning that's for sure!
Enjoy your S days x

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Hi..i am just reading what you say about s events as I was thinking about adding this mod also..my hesitation is that I've just recommitted to Vanilla No s and 1 week of greens so far I'm feeling good. I may continue on and see how I go..my main reason for wanting to modify with S events is my const...

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Yes this is a very helpful article..thanks for bringing it up again SpiritSong
I've written down this quote as a reminder.."how you OBtain something is how you must. MAINtain it".. couldn't be more NoS compatible!

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Yes that's great advice Jen1974.. I tend to think if you're thinking about food constantly it can be your body trying to tell you it's hungry! It's not always emotional..sometimes it's more basic than that..since I've been eating more at meals and more fat also it's amazing that my mind isn't on foo...

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Green for yesterday. I resisted a delicious muffin at morning Tea then we went to dinner for my husbands birthday and I did some virtual plating which was fine and I resisted the custard bun for dessert..gold stars for me today :lol: I didn't do my 14mins sg though and I missed it..so this morning I...

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Yes! I completely agree with this..achieving little wins each day makes me feel strong before any results are 'seen'.

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That's awesome kittson..1 month of greens well done! I attended a training course today for work and they put on morning tea..coffee and muffins..i looovve muffins (orange and poppyseed my favourite) and I had that internal chatter going on.."go on just have one, it's important to have a fail you ca...

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Green today :D 14 mins SG and 3meals. I had my shift times change today so I ate BF at 7.30am and didn't get to eat lunch until 2.30 which was fine but I found I was really hungry for dinner at about 5pm and was watching the clock..so ate earlier than normal at 6pm..so if I'm hungry before bed I'll ...

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I'm quite amazed at how easily my body and mind has adjusted back to 3 meals a day without snacks..I'm back after veering off course a few too many times over many years..I'm not sure how long I've consistently been "days on habit" in the past..I think about 3 months at a time at least, but it's qui...

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Thanks Imogen, only regaining 5 from 14kgs lost is still pretty good though. It really is the best this No S..good luck to you too

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Green for today..3 generous meals and 14mins shovelglove

Plus walking and netball..a good day.
Note: Adding fat to meals and making sure I eat enough protein really helps me feel satisfied between meals.

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My plan is to follow Vanilla No S and 14mins shovelglove (or any movement) daily. I've been doing my own kind of version of no s..3 meals with sweets if I want and I've noticed that my 'sweets' are getting larger and I feel that a meal isn't complete without a piece of chocolate to end it..I origina...

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I absolutely love that quote "no s isn't always easy-just turns out everything else is harder" !! Fantastic! I think that quote sums up why I'm back and forth with No s..no s isn't always easy so I venture out and try other things (either diets or non diets) and then I remember why no s is the only ...

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I personally have been weighing myself daily, as if to 'desensitise' myself from any fear I feel from the number, but it's just something I have come up with for myself personally..seeing how the number fluctuates kind of reinforces how meaningless it really is..it kind of removes the power of the s...

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It's great to read current blogs about no s..how exciting! This is just such a lovely supportive forum..it's always a nice place to check in and to have the blogs also..bonus! nice one

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