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Imogen Morley

Thank you all for your replies. You have all confirmed what I already suspected, but of course I'm going to double-check at the doctor's. I must admit to feeling quite relieved: eating for two has been a glorified mantra here where I live for decades!

Imogen Morley

:mrgreen: B: 4 fishfingers with ketchup, 1 slice wholewheat bread, small bowl of Greek yogurt with homemade raspberry preserves L: 2 egg omelette with spinach and mozzarella, 1 small white roll, banana D: 1 small white roll with butter and 2 slices sheep milk cheese, tangerine, big handful of cashew...

Imogen Morley

:mrgreen: B: 2 egg omelette with spinach and mozzarella, slice of wholewheat bread, small bowl of Greek yogurt with strawberries and sugar L: wholewheat sandwich with butter, lettuce, 3 slices of sheep milk cheese, small apple, cup of cocoa with sugar (half milk, half water) D: 2 wholewheat slices w...

Imogen Morley

Thanks for the input! I'm not physically hungry between meals or if I am, my stomach is grumbling slightly about half an hour before, which I consider both normal and desirable - I'm building healthy appetite, not starving myself. In the last few weeks I've caught myself eating just because I can or...

Imogen Morley

Thank you! What you said really resonates with me. I don't think there's any harm in eating three meals per day, no matter what trimester you are in, provided you don't inhale junk all the time. I'm big on fruit, dairy, fish and whole grains, I like most vegetables - my diet, except sugar splurges, ...

Imogen Morley

Linda, variety is definitely the key to staying healthy, and my grandmother, past her 90 birthday, is a shining example of this principle. Every single foodstuff eaten in excess, even spinach, can have its side effects. And statistically, when you eat a wide variety of products, there's no chance to...

Imogen Morley

Disclaimer: I am aware that opinions expressed below are not medical advice. I will definitely ask my OB for it. I've been doing pretty fine on NoS for the first six months of my pregnancy, and gaining weight by the book just by following basic vanilla principles, and with excessive Saturdays, tamer...

Imogen Morley

I used to do the Tibetan exercises, gosh, in high school? I was on some New Age kick then. They must have worked, though, people keep asking me when I graduate!

Imogen Morley

Ugh, I didn't know about such scary side effects of reflux meds, and my husband sometimes has to use them! But then, fighting it with diet alone takes A LOT of time... You just can't win, can you?

Imogen Morley

Good luck on your journey! Keep us posted on your progress.

Imogen Morley

You're doing great! I'm also a fan of walking... strictness, however, is a totally different thing! But it sure does help a lot.

Imogen Morley

For about two weeks I've been struggling with markedly increased appetite for sweets, and as my oral glucose test is fast approaching, I'd rather avoid going overboard with sugar. So naturally, I've started reading about "nutrition" lately. Grrrr! It always makes my head spin. The conclusion, howeve...

Imogen Morley

"Recycling pounds" - great expression! I know how frustrating it can be, but that Monday weigh-in is definitely a good sign.

Imogen Morley

How do you compare ice cream in Italy and Croatia? My colleagues went into a heated debate someday, arguing that both nations make equally good gelato, and Italy shouldn't be put first in this category. I'm not big on ice cream (and never been to Italy), so I couldn't really chime in. Curious about ...

Imogen Morley

Thanks for stopping by! I had hoped for a boy (being a hopeless tomboy myself, I usually prefer the company of men), but I'm excited now. Raising girls is so challenging, but I hope it will be rewarding in the end. I want her to become an awesome, strong, happy young lady, and I think various everyd...

Imogen Morley

At the end of August we were close to losing our baby, and I had to spend two weeks in hospital. So thankful it's over now! Turns out we're having a girl. It's been almost 20 weeks, and my weight gain so far is 2 kilos. I'm kinda worried about it, but then, all my friends keep telling me that women ...

Imogen Morley

Thank you so much for all good wishes. I feel great and still haven't experienced any of the typical pregnancy ailments. I might be a little sleepier than usual, but that's it. I think it's time to get back to protein/fat/veggie combos for breakfast, with just one slice of bread and no fruit. I've u...

Imogen Morley

Definitely wishing you all the luck! One small reminder, though: S-days DO get better, but it's a long process. How long? It varies much from person to person. But "premature optimization" very rarely brings the results we were hoping for, and that comes from the self-styled "Mod Queen", now at peac...

Imogen Morley

Your input is ever appreciated, so please feel free to share.

Imogen Morley

I imagine the crowds at the coast right now... Still, hope it will be a very enjoyable trip!

Imogen Morley

Aaand I did it again - promised to post more, and abandoned my thread the next day. BUT I have a legitimate reason to focus on my off-line life at the moment: I'm almost 10 weeks into a high-risk pregnancy. So far I haven't experienced even a single episode of nausea, so I'm keeping my fingers cross...

Imogen Morley

Friday: I started with "3 meals a day, no snacks, no seconds, anything allowed on the plate" mod. Some previous experiences on that are recorded in my posts from early years. We had a special event in the evening. I didn't go nuts, and only sampled the dishes which looked particularly yummy. Saturd...

Imogen Morley

Thanks for the answers. I'm on day two, but since I don't want to hijack your thread, I'll post about the details in mine later on.

Imogen Morley

Thanks for sharing your mod. Sounds very doable!
May I ask, do you allow ANY snacking between meals, e.g. in the form of virtual plating? On hot summer days I'm very tempted to walk into some ice cream shop (we have TONS here) and have a cone, but I'm not sure how that would work with your mod.

Imogen Morley

Thanks for stopping by! Sinnie, glad to see you here! I miss the times when we exchanged gazillion PMs :) As usual, we're on the same page. LifeisaBlessing, your mod sounds great - very humane, very reasonable. I did something similar in the past, and it worked for some time. There's this idea stuck...

Imogen Morley

Total disaster... My willpower is the strongest at the very beginning of the week, takes a nosedive on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, white-knuckles it through Thursdays, and then suffers spectacular failure on Fridays. Weekends, obviously, are excessive, because I need to cram in as much sweet and salty ...

Imogen Morley

Mislim da knjiga je dostupna samo na engleskom. Osnova cijelog programa je zaista "No sweets, no snacks, no seconds, except for days that start with S" - lijepo je imati knjigu, ali to nije potrebno. To je samo dodatna motivacija i nacin na koji mozemo pokazati zahvalnost Reinhardu.

Imogen Morley

Srdacan pozdrav! Nisam Hrvatica, ali Hrvatska je moja druga domovina i cesto putujem tamo. Imam dobrih prijatelja u Osijeku i blizu Sibenika. Good luck on the successful continuation of your NoS adventure! I'm also here for a bit of maintenance (started in 2010, then fell off the wagon in 2014), but...

Imogen Morley

Day 8 :oops: I had dessert after dinner: one Danish pastry and two crepes with homemade strawberry jam. I had very specific craving for pastries, and gave in. Day 9 ? doing my best to make it green as grass oolala, I know that patience is the key here, however, I'm somewhat lacking in this departmen...

Imogen Morley

Yeah, relying on willpower alone usually backfires, so in order to impose gentle limits on our S-days, we would have to resort to habits - different from weekday ones, of course. I was thinking about making it a rule to have sweets only as desserts after lunch and dinner, and making exception for ic...

Imogen Morley

How were your S-days? Satisfying, I hope.

Imogen Morley

I hear you. Marks&Spencer Scottish shortbread fingers are my crack. Better to buy the smallest packet possible than finish the weekend dozing on the sofa in sugar coma. I sometimes even resort to taking only cash with me - the exact amount I need to buy that one thing I've been dreaming about during...

Imogen Morley

Hard-won N-days prove that we can do things that are uncomfortable and difficult. Remember those - reminiscing about past success will hopefully make it easier next time temptation knocks on your door. You're building your willpower muscle - you rock!

Imogen Morley

Oh, oolala, if only that was true (well, the dress part)! I'd lie if I said I didn't care about weight loss - 2 kg down would be great. After my first week on habit I have to say that the hardest part this time is avoiding calorie counting. I'm afraid I'll be losing the same 1.5 kg over and over aga...

Imogen Morley

Day 5

S-day!
Day 6

S-day!

I managed to avoid out-of-control eating, but still ate way more than usual: two types of cake, some biscuits, larger portions at dinner, I also had some ice tea, which I never drink on N-days. I'm trying to get calorie counts out my head.

Imogen Morley

I did 3 pre-planned S-events per week in the past, and it worked for about a year... until I forgot about the word "pre-planned". As far as mods go, it was very humane. Can't wait to read your review. Best of luck on this!

Imogen Morley

I second Linda's suggestion. My 8-year-old nephew would agree - he prefers getting gift cards than actual gifts, mostly because he tends to change his mind so quickly - when his mom gives me an idea for a gift on Sunday, on Monday he dreams about something else. As for the hair stylist vs therapist ...

Imogen Morley

Thanks again, guys

Saturday weigh-in: 54.2 kg. Will update later to share how my S-day went.

Imogen Morley

Thanks for all good wishes. We're pretty much keeping the wedding secret (especially from my coworkers), but there is no need to keep silent about it here. Day 4 :mrgreen: Fridays are HARD. And Tuesdays. Mentally, my weekends start when I leave work on Friday afternoon, so evenings at home usually m...

Imogen Morley

Thanks a lot :) Even though we plan to have a very small, private civil ceremony, there's still much to be done. DAY 3 :oops: one snack while making dinner. Didn't morph into a WTH episode, so I'm kinda okay with it. Not proud, but OK. I need to work on strictness, and respecting plate boundaries (n...

Imogen Morley

Didn't I mention somewhere that I'm getting married soon? *frantically re-reading my posts*

Imogen Morley

Absolutely agreed. No S lets me put some boundaries around my emotional eating. I second whatever this guy says: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pavel-somov/emotional-eating-is-inevi_b_511100.html (more coping per calorie, I love this phrase) Day 2 :mrgreen: though I put A LOT on my dinner plate (no e...

Imogen Morley

JJ - love your insight about worshipping food. I have problems with emotional eating, and their root is, I believe, partly spiritual. We emotional eaters tend to deify food, expect it to smooth the rough edges of our days, comfort us, carry us through life. Not the healthiest option I know. Linda - ...

Imogen Morley

lpearlmom wrote: They may love animals but I'm pretty sure the don't like humans.

Thousand times this. My experience is that people choosing veganism for ethical reasons tend to be kind towards their fellow humans as well, but the kale-munching mob worshipping Nutritionism just looks down on everybody.

Imogen Morley

Day 1 :mrgreen: though not perfect. My dinner plate was way too big (2 chicken wraps), and I had a large cup of hot cocoa (just a little sweet) in the evening. Still progress, compared to my recent eating habits. I just know it's gonna be extra hard this time... but I can do hard things, I've proven...

Imogen Morley

Hi, Cedar. I started in 2010, lost about 14 kilos in 2 years, then fell off the wagon, and regained 5 kilos in the last year. I've had similar problem as you: not being strict enough, and letting sweets sneak onto my plates. Trying to do better this time, and maybe lose some weight in the process. G...

Imogen Morley

Hi, automated! I'm also struggling with establishing firm exercise routine. What about 14 minutes of anything as a base, and adding whatever you can in a given day on top of that?

Imogen Morley

No kidding! Hope it sticks with me this time.

Imogen Morley

My fling with veganism was short-lived and quite similar to yours (and jack's). I felt pretty fine doing it... until my body weight went below 50 kilos. This was disastrous to my reproductive health. My diet at that time was pretty healthy overall - certainly more beans, veggies, and barley than fri...

Imogen Morley

I hatehatehatehatehate random, mindless eating. Ugh. Even if it doesn't make me gain weight, I still hate it. Snacking is EVIL. Nothing tastes good. Nothing satisfies. Nothing feels special.

Imogen Morley

One of the things I like the most about NoS is the freedom of choice. You can adhere to the rules even if your don't have time or energy to cook super healthy and fancy meals. Great to hear you're doing better at avoiding after-dinner munchies. Small victories go a long way!

Imogen Morley

Oh my gosh! Twins! Congratulations! I'm like... wow. Speechless

Sorry to hear about your Dad's issues. I can only imagine how overwhelming things must feel for you now. Big hugs! Simplifying wherever you can seems like the best option.

Imogen Morley

Just popping in to say hello! Hoping to catch up on reading people's threads soon. Your vegan experiment remarks caught my eye - care to elaborate what made you drop it?

Imogen Morley

Wow. Long time no see. My weight has been pretty stable, despite Easter indulgences and terrible (or rather, lack of) food habits. And you know what? 6 months of freedom from any exercise/meal systems hasn't made me any happier. Quite the opposite, truth be told. I crave structure and simplicity. I ...

Imogen Morley

Hi again! I remember I was doing something similar a couple of years ago - eating three meals a day, and my plates sometimes included sweets. Worked great for some time, until I decided it wasn't "good enough", and started dieting like a crazy person. Good luck!

Imogen Morley

Interesting. Cold water makes me hungry! I've been known to drink gallons of hot tea, though, even during the hottest summers. In my case there's nothing like a nice steaming mug to stop hunger.

Imogen Morley

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/01/160125114131.htm I find it extremely interesting. It certainly confirms my own observations: on days when I eat my three square meals, my sweet tooth doesn't bug me that much. Whenever I try to skimp on normal food (in a real diet style), the sugar monste...

Imogen Morley

SATURDAY S-day :wink: B: 2 ham&cheese paninis, banana 2 pralines (eaten purely because of the fear of missing out...) L: 4 crepes with curd cheese filling D: tba Nothing sweet sounds paticularly interesting today. I'm going to bake coconut cake tonight, and I'll definitely take a slice or two, but o...

Imogen Morley

FRIDAY

B: fish spread on white bread, orange
L: more fish spread on graham bread, apple, cherry tomatoes
D: 2 small hot dogs with cabbage and ketchup

+ a darn good walk

Imogen Morley

THURSDAY :shock: near miss B: Swedish-style fish spread and eggs on graham bread, banana coffee with milk, 2 pieces of baklava L: bean and mushroom enchilada in tomato sauce, fresh vegetable salad more baklava... D: potato/parsley soup, 3 crepes with curd cheese filling (large plate) I'm kinda torn ...

Imogen Morley

I've been on and off NoS since 2010. I've permanently lost 10 kg (~20 lbs). Periodically I lose up to 5 kg (10 lbs) when strictly following vanilla, and then gain them again whenever I get impatient and resort to calorie counting or mods, so there you go: one step forward, two back. It's just not wo...

Imogen Morley

WEDNESDAY :shock: <- near miss B: salmon spread, eggs, arugula on white bread, orange coffee with milk and sugar L: pb&jam on graham bread, milk D: red lentil soup with smoked paprika and pasta 4 pieces of baklava, handful of saffron rice - some people from the Embassy of Azerbaijan brought us dolma...

Imogen Morley

Poland, plus I come from a family of foodies. We always experiment!

Imogen Morley

You are also so right about needing to realize how much I already have. Maybe I don't have a close knit group of friends or a flourishing career but I have a great relationship with DH and I'm fortunate to have kids that are generally well-behaved, healthy and caring. I also have a good relationshi...

Imogen Morley

I've been just catching up with everyone. Sorry to hear about your surgery, but it seems that you're in good hands and with good plan in mind.

Imogen Morley

I'm 5'2" (157 cm). Anything over 55 kg, and I start looking a bit heavy around the hips. I totally agree on moderation being the goal rather than some arbitrary number on the scale. Sadly, I'm far from it right now - my food and exercise habits are all over the place! TUESDAY :shock: (near miss) B: ...

Imogen Morley

Quite predictably, I fell off the wagon. Disappointed with very, very slow weight loss I started tampering with the basics, and on Saturday I found myself at 56 kg/123 lbs. MONDAY :mrgreen: B: white bean/prune spread on graham bread, slices of cucumber in brine, orange L: millet flakes with milk, da...

Imogen Morley

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 102935.htm

I put my money on snacking.

Imogen Morley

oolala, I can honestly say that after 5+ years of NoS (on and off vanilla) one habit is very strong: there has to be some limit to snacks/sweets/seconds, either in the form of weekend boundaries or some specific S-events. The idea of having sweets whenever I want or even keeping them at home without...

Imogen Morley

oolalala, I'm learning to accept that NoS is good enough... and good enough is enough in itself. Monday - near miss. My mom brought us cake she made with unique ingredients she had bought during out last trip to Croatia, so I consider it a fail-worthy treat. Otherwise my day was green. I'm not too h...

Imogen Morley

Excessive weekend. Ugh. Still learning after 5 years! The good news: current weigh-in 119 lbs, so I'm maintaining despite miserable fails at least once a week and overloaded weekends.

Imogen Morley

I had one major binge-fail (Thursday), and one minor fail. Also, my plates were loaded, my physical activity non-existent. Curious about my weigh-in tomorrow morning! Whatever happens, happens. I don't have any treats planned for the weekend. Nothing sounds good, so I'll just go with the flow. The t...

Imogen Morley

Sonya, that's exactly what I plan to do. On Saturdays I often have more time to cook elaborate meals, and something savory yet special would be enough to make me feel satisfied with simple N-day routine. As I said, we rarely entertain or go out on Saturdays, and if we do in the future, I'll just mak...

Imogen Morley

Back after my looong and wonderful Croatian vacation. Miraculously, I've been maintaining at 54 kg/119 lbs the whole time. "Extra tolerance for screw-ups" was enough to keep me sane, but now I'd like to tighten up the reins a bit. One mod I'd like to introduce for several reasons is having Friday af...

Imogen Morley

Congratulations and hugs! I'm going for my annual big Croatian trip just tomorrow, so hopefully I'll drop you a line when I get back in three weeks. Lovely to see you here

Imogen Morley

After a brief fling with calorie counting, my weight reached 123 pounds/56 kilos this morning. What was I thinking??? B: scrambled eggs with mushrooms, 2x bread/butter, 2 small peaches L: vegetable stir fry with soy "kebab", banana small cup of cafe au lait with sugar D (BIG, heaping plate): chips w...

Imogen Morley

Yes to #2! I, too, often engage in "preventive eating", which hinders weight loss in the long run. Fear of hunger is just so deeply biological.

Imogen Morley

Still here, still plodding on. I had a row of sick days. All my upset tummy wanted was ice cream, so I ate a lot of it, sometimes in place of meals. I'm glad it's over! I had fairly moderate S-day yesterday, with more disorganized eating today. The current heatwave in Europe combined with upped sodi...

Imogen Morley

I guess 119 lbs is perfectly fine even for such tiny person as I am... but it's still more than I used to weigh a couple of years ago. Yeah, yeah, I know - first world problems. :oops: yesterday - I had an ice cream bar, a small handful of peanuts, and two tablespoons of creme brulee ice cream. No b...

Imogen Morley

Sunday was only a little bit better. Oh well. I keep reminding myself that I'm "falsely extrapolating", in the words of our dear leader, expecting that my S-days will ALWAYS be that wild. They may eventually calm down, but it requires a lot of patience... which is not my signature strength. Trying n...

Imogen Morley

Saturday - S-day

Oooh man, that was one wild ride! Totally unsatisfying though: permasnacking ruined my meals, and I went to bed feeling like a beached whale.

Imogen Morley

day with one plate piled high. EDIT: the day turned out

in the end. I had snacks and half a chocolate bar late in the evening, though it wasn't as terrible as my usual failures.

Imogen Morley

The one thing I absolutely love in NoS is the freedom from counting, measuring, weighing, and thinking about/fearing food.

Imogen Morley

with one S-event (a little housewarming party - small handful of sweet cherries and a muffin).

Imogen Morley

and uneventful day.

Imogen Morley

with one S-event at dinner (Father's Day here where I live, so I had cake and seconds). Getting used to feeling slightly hungry between lunch and dinner again.

Imogen Morley

What can I say? Back to square one after 4 weeks of dieting/binging cycle *hangs her head in shame* :mrgreen: today, with an overloaded dinner plate (pierogi, mmm!). The last sentence from ironchef's post in my sleep deprivation thread on the general forum shook me a little. I've been using the same...

Imogen Morley

Thanks for the ideas so far. I'd like to add that I'm already using some of the proposed strategies (walking, drinking lots of water, stretching etc.), but though they do make me feel more energetic for a while, they unfortunately do nothing to quell the hunger. I feel okay, but still HUNGRY.

Imogen Morley

As you all know, sleep deprivation can seriously mess with hunger hormones, and the chronically sleep-deprived often struggle with weight. I'm going through a difficult spell right now, and I often find myself undersleeping, which of course makes me feel not only tired but also ravenously hungry dur...

Imogen Morley

Food hangover today after two definitely excessive S-days.

Imogen Morley

Reporting Friday as a full-blown fail. I had some halva at home, and really divine shortbread biscuits for my guests... and I ate 6 ounces of halva, plus two or three biscuits. And in result, my dinner plate was REALLY loaded. I'll try to refrain from putting conscious restrictions on myself this we...

Imogen Morley

Hm... I stepped on the scale this morning, and it showed exactly the same number as last Saturday. That's a mild bummer for me, although I keep reminding myself that I've also upped my complex carb intake, it's more or less that time of the month, I've had a few excessively salty meals, and so on. O...

Imogen Morley

You're doing great! Keep on keepin' on

Imogen Morley

Thursday - success. I'm loving it!

Imogen Morley

Wednesday - controlled fail. I had soup and second course at dinner, plus one big square of dark chocolate as dessert. 3 Belgian pralines in the evening, too. Fails happen. I didn't go crazy afterwards, so I'm happy anyway. Feeling healthy and strong!

Imogen Morley

The only thing I notice about eating sugar (on its own) or eating a very carb heavy meal, like a plate of pasta with not much else, is that I'll be hungrier sooner than if I had a more balanced meal with some protein, fats and fibre from fruits or veg. This isn't the end of the world, but it does m...

Imogen Morley

Hello, Auto! Sorry to hear you've been having such stressful time... it's something I can totally relate to. Workload + stress are powerful overeating triggers for so many of us. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for your success. There's a bunch of us here restarting right now.

Imogen Morley

I admire your ability to "mark it and move on". To me, not failing in the first place is way easier than failing just a little. Have you ever struggled with WTH effect?

Imogen Morley

Tuesday has been green. I planned a really special breakfast for tomorrow: a nice big chunk of smoked salmon on challah bread. Don't judge me. I'm a sucker for salty/sweet combos.

Imogen Morley

First of all, big hugs. Second... your post really resonated with me (well, they always do but this time was special). I'm exactly in the same place as you are, even weight-wise. Gee, I could have written such post myself. I know all the excuses: I ate too little protein, my breakfast was too small,...

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