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Hi beginagain, There are many options! The fact that you've got N days down is a big deal and gives you a solid foundation to work on. And it's great that you've got the exercise component in place too. Here are a few suggestions -- I'd start with the smallest, clearest, most moderate change, as it ...

Nice. I've been laying off "shovel" and "armwrestle" entirely this week, but haven't noticed a difference. I may lay off them for the rest of the month, just to see. I haven't tried the eccentric chin ups yet... might make that next months experiment, depending on how this month's goes. Nice to have...

Only when work was closed and there so there wasn't any work to walk to. For the last almost 20 years, I've lived walking distance from my various jobs. There have been times when I drove because I had to do some kid pickup from an event after or something, but not because of the weather (even if I ...

Oh it was just fine.

(Thanks for your concern though!)

Schools were closed but the library was open!

It's been a good week for "applied shovelglove," though, between this storm and the last one!

Reinhard

Congratulations! And thanks for letting us know.

So are you only taking one S day a week?

(two is totally legitimate, you know!)

Reinhard

I think noni diagnosed that correctly.

Do the trick? Or are you still locked out of editing?

I use the "rubber truncheon" in 3 ways: 1. I do this hard to describe twist exercise that supposedly strengthens some compensatory muscles (14 reps). Lots of videos on youtube how to do this, here's one I consulted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P-QOaCoDWY At first it felt hard to get this moveme...

Oh, and here's the original uppy elbow thread, just to get it all conveniently linked together:

https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11016

OK, sorry for the delayed, promised follow up! What I do for my "uppy elbow" (which I'm still convinced was caused by excessive compliance with my toddlers incessant, whining requests to be picked up) is this: 1. mostly stick with shorter rep count routines. Either 14 or 7. 2. "warm up" for each wor...

Thank you so much!

And so great to see you here again!

Let us know if there's an archived link to the show, would love to hear it!

Reinhard

Thanks for this update, startgoat. I got my uppy elbow under control in a slightly different way, but the fact that at least two of us have experienced this here means it probably isn't just a fluke: this is definitely something to watch out for in shovelglove. What strikes me as odd is I didn't not...

What is the best thing about the No S Diet? It's hard to pick, there are so many. Nettee just posted a list in a recent testimonial post (4 months on habit, 14 pounds down) which I think contains my favorite: "Thinking about the diet very little - escaping the obsession that is required for some oth...

Congratulations Nettee! And thanks for letting us know. Of the many benefits you list, I think this is my favorite: Thinking about the diet very little - escaping the obsession that is required for some other diets and can't last forever Thanks for listing your hard bits, too. This is the one that r...

tlingit just posted a very thoughtful testimonial describing a successful first year on no-s. Sure, some weight was lost (10 pounds), but what really impressed me was how tlingit put No S more in the company of yoga and meditation than traditional "diets," and I think that's altogether appropriate. ...

I love this. Puts No S more in the company of yoga and meditation than traditional "diets," and I think that's altogether appropriate. On one level, it's a form of re-ritualized eating, with a zen-minimalist aesthetic. It's not surprise that it can be calming and grounding, apart from its direct phy...

Congratulations!

Love the bit about your wife having to verify the scales accuracy.

It is a bit unbelievable that something so simple could possibly work, isn't it?

Thanks for letting us know!

Reinhard

Thanks for the encouragement! I'm afraid I haven't been able to make any progress on this yet. I'll refrain from making any promises, but I do appreciate the nudges.

Reinhard

I have "default" meals for lunch and breakfast (oatmeal and mestemacher black bread) but these defaults allow for a lot of variety (and default doesn't mean required, I do have something else a fair amount of the time). I've toyed with the idea of putting together mini cookbooks of the quick, delici...

Merry, congratulations and thank you for your own yearly check-in post!

https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=176248

Very impressive! Love the details -- more in my response there.

Congratulations, Merry! And thank you for posting here. I love all the detail -- all your "intelligent dietary defaults," even though you don't call them that. Such a better way to get a "good enough" handle on quality than meticulous recording of every meal. I'm also so gratified to hear how helpfu...

Thanks, Merry and oolala53! Got em both.

Still pretty darn impressive! Thanks for the update and best of luck during this dietarily challenging time of year!

Congratulations, Nibbler! And sorry I didn't see this till now. (I'm in the middle of a job transition and more than usually distracted -- back to working in libraries again, come January!). Love the details -- and fascinating to see how the term "permasnacking" keeps resonating with people. I think...

Thanks for stopping by, Joasia!

Sorry to hear you ran into difficulties, but we appreciate the honest update, and wish you best of luck getting back on track.

Please stop by again and let us know how it's going.

Not at all inappropriate!

I just think you should shout it from the rooftops! (not just here -- though here is certainly fine too).

Reinahrd

HotIce,

I hope you realize that your 30 pounds loss is "testimonial worthy" as well!

We'd love to see a tread here about your experience so far.

(No pressure of course!)

Reinhard

From a recent post to the shovelglove facebook group : Not sure if a coincidence or not, but, there is an Overwatch hero with a similar name to Reinhard Engels and His weapon is a hammer. Check him out: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/reinhardt/ Maybe someone at blizzard is doing the Shovelgl...

Both 10,000 and 21 are arbitrary numbers. But they express approximate truths. And in their (absurd) precision they can be usefully inspiring. Instead of doubting, which is the easiest thing in the world, becuase of course they aren't exacltly true in all cases, or even averagely true of they'd be f...

Think I found it:

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN ... aysyste-20

I'll stick it on the home page as well.

Beautiful! So happy to hear this. No better "metric" than being able to enjoy experiences like this.

Beautiful! I didn't even know long 4 pounders were available. I'll see if I can find it and post a link... (feel free to post it yourself if you have it handy).

Welcome back, Travis!

Best of luck getting it to stick this time.

Sometimes having made a throrugh survey of all the other (bad) options can be just what you need to make No S work.

Please keep posting if you have questions or run into trouble or need support.

Reinhard

Hi Just do it, Sorry I didn't see this till now -- I think you'll get more eyeballs on it if you re-post it in the general discussion area: https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewforum.php?f=3 In the meantime, my advice is start ASAP! No reason to wait. Get a nice Friday in tomorrow to test the waters b...

I do know... it's ridiculous. But the truth is, it's not all chance. It was definitely something I looked out for. I don't think I've even interviewed anywhere in the last decade+ that wouldn't have had a walkable commute. It's luck I guess that I live in a city that is so walkable. But that's been ...

Thank you! It was very nice. My daughter baked a chocolate chip honey cake for me (her own "mod" on a real recipe -- she sticks chocolate chips in everything). A sweet gesture, and actually rather delicious.

Reinhard

Welcome! I turn 43 tomorrow and have lost 40 pounds, so I'd say No-s is pretty well optimized for someone in your situation.

I must confess, I haven't stuck with the anti bookmarks system as described above (or used an electronic equivalent). But I have found another helpful, similar system: it doesn't involve post-its, but the back of my beloved daily index card. I draw a little box with an icon of a TV (old-school tv wi...

Repost from the shovelglove group because it's my favorite non-scale victory in a long time, and hey, no-s played a role here too: From: https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11090 My 9 year old daughter and 4 year old son walked in on me doing shovelglove this morning. "You look like a sup...

The Urban Ranger salutes a fellow self-improvement poet!

Self improvement gurus are a dime a dozen, but poets! That is another story.

Belated welcome! I can't assure you that vanilla no-s will solve all your problems with the suspected medically related weight gain, but I have strong suspicion it will help, and provide a solid foundation for further efforts if necessary. Hard to go wrong with moderation, even if you wind up having...

Got it! Thanks!

My 9 year old daughter and 4 year old son walked in on me doing shovelglove this morning. "You look like a superhero! You've got muscles!" my daughter exclaimed, a bit shocked. "I've seen him doing that before, " my son added nonchalantly. Nothing like praise from the mouths of babes and sucklings -...

Glad they still resonate!

More are (slowly) on the way...

I find nothing beats oatmeal for long term fullness. Though I've traditionally preferred rolled oats from sheer laziness, recently I've been eating more steel cut (largely because my wife accidentally bought a large box). The trick I've found to making them not so inconvenient and quite tasty is to ...

I don't take any supplements (except what rubs off my cast iron pans!).

Hi LadyJo,

It should let you choose which month or months you want to see from the drop down menus listing months, years, and number of months. Do those not work for you?

Maybe you need to hit the "show" button? (not immediately obvious, I should fix that).

Reinhard

Thank you! He'll be happy to hear that.

He turns 20 years old this September!

(living evidence that, despite appearances, shovelglove is cat friendly!)

Very resourceful!

Congratulations on improvising such a successful start.

Best of luck going forward and please let us know who it goes,

Reinhard

Thanks for the half-and-half tip! Sounds so good I'm almost afraid to try it

That's right, me the founder. First one in a long time. I was at a wonderful Lebanese restaurant with my diabetic father in law and my 3 year old son, who'd ordered a rice pudding for dessert (Turkish coffee for me!). After a few bites my son decided the spices in the pudding were a little too authe...

In the past, I tended to optimize my oatmeal for convenience (I ate it at lunch work and wanted to be able to prepare it quickly and without much mess). These days because I work so close to home I can actually come home for lunch (and have far more options than oatmeal). So when I do hanker for the...

Another testimonial worth update in the facebook group: I've been No S for about a year now and have lost about 15 lbs. I probably would have lost more if I hadn't fallen off the wagon due to stress when we were selling and buying a house. I've done diets before with little success. This works for m...

I'm glad that resonated with you, MaggieMae. I'm surprised by how cartoonish most discussions of pornography (and sex in general) are these days. On the one had you have the "sex positive," who think that sexuality is an unalloyed good, innocuous and to be innocently enjoyed, celebrated, and display...

"Diet head" afflicts even the fit and trim. And it can be just as destructive (if less visibly). Hard-core athlete Spiritualmalady just posted a very thoughtful testimonial about how No S helped her banish "diet head" and find the path of moderation between excess and punitive deprivation. The resul...

It's definitely helped significantly -- though I can't say it's 100% fixed (doesn't help that my 3-year-old son keeps hiding it!). I feel fine shugging (with relatively low rep counts -- 14-16 usually -- per movement) and can even bang out modest numbers of chin-ups without pain (7 or so vs the 12 p...

Congratulations and thank you for this thoughtful post! I love it how No S works both for people on both ends of the spectrum -- those who under-eat as well as those who overeat. Further confirmation of its fundamental elegance and sanity, I like to think. You're no-no-seconds mod sounds very reason...

Great story!

I think there's no better modern test of functional strength than moving.

Love it that you worked up to this with a skillet!

Congratulations!

Reinhard

Welcome back! Sorry to hear about the work/move stress -- but glad things are more settled now, and that "half-hearted" No S limited the damage on the eating front. Best of luck getting those habits fully back in place! (sounds like you're off to a great start).

Reinhard

Yep, that qualifies! Thank you!

Anna writes: "18 months on No-S. Before, January 2015. During, June 2016. Currently at 20 pounds lost from highest weight. I have 5 pounds to normal BMI. My hip-waist ratio measured at the healthy range this morning. All other health measures are in tip-top shape. Formerly Hashimoto's, no medication...

Thanks for the feedback, MD! Somehow Dave Allen's stuff never quite clicked with me... But perhaps it's worth another look. I think one little rule of his turned my off perhaps a little too much: the "two minute" rule, which holds that if you can do a task in two minutes or less, don't even bother w...

Welcome!

Would be nice to add a weight tracker to the habitcal, and somekind of embed code that could tell not just weight lost but days on habit...

No S for the Soul! 14-Year Jubilee updates on 8 "spiritual" systems: Weekend Luddite, Audiodidact, Chain of Self-command, Low Smoking, G-Ray Vision, Monthly Resolution, Lawful Good Biker and The Study Habit.

https://everydaysystems.com/podcast/episode.php?id=50

Yes... fishy. Blasted her.

Thanks!

Reinhard

What if you've been doing No S for years and it ceases to "work?" Go gluten free? Start WW (weight watchers) III? How about what worked for DaveMc, 7-year No-S veteran: What I've actually used is the much less exciting method of eating a little bit less and exercising a little bit more, while follow...

Congratulations on making it to the biblical span of 7 years! (you had me scared, though, for a minute midway through your update!) I love it that instead of freaking out when No S as you'd been practicing it ceased to be quite as effective as it had been initially and tossing it out the window, you...

I don't... Probably couldn't hurt, but 14 minutes is all I can consistently bring myself to spare, and that would put me over the edge. I have to say I've been surprised though at how "safe" shovelglove has been for me over these 14 years. I've never once injured myself, which is far more than I can...

I would think so. It's modeled after how "normal, healthy" weight people tend to eat. If you have nothing to lose, No S is a great insurance policy. It might also make you feel more in control and enjoy your food more. If you have something to lose, No S will get you there a most pleasant, sustainab...

I got a flexbar thera-band for my "uppy elbow" aka "golfers elbow" that my three year old boy likes using as a sort of shovelglove (well, more like a straight up weapon really), he calls it "the rubber truncheon." Not a bad gateway shovelglove... though now I sometimes have trouble finding where he'...

"Grain-based desserts" are now the top source of calories in the United States, according to a recent analysis in JAMA internal medicine. That doesn't even include "dairy desserts" (number 10) or soft/energy drinks (number 4). Shocked? Disturbed? Depressed? I prefer to look at it in a more positive ...

Wow, these are some beauts. Thanks for posting!

My 9 year old daughter will get jealous if she hears your son is starting -- not sure whether to keep that a secret or use it as a motivational tool.

Best of luck to you both and definitely keep us posted!

Reinhard

Welcome to systematic moderation, S-girl!

(and sorry for the delayed response -- I was on internetless vacation)

Reinhard

1. follow the shade, even if leads you a bit out of the way 2. don't carry around heavy bags (especially backpacks -- if necessary, better to carry a backpack in your hand than on your back on a really hot day) 3. Use an anti perspirant that actually works 4. don't get overambitious. Even a 5-10 min...

I found this fascinating (and rather attractive) infographic in the New York times illustrating the "granola gap," the difference between how healthy various foods are according to scientists vs. public perception (with granola bars the discrepancy was particularly shocking). I don't think it's an a...

The no s diet per se doesn't count beverages as food -- unless they are loaded with sugar, in which case they are sweets, or loaded with sugar and rather massy, like shakes or smoothies in which case they are possible 2 or more esses combined. There is a companion system I follow called "glass ceili...

Wow, thank you for relaying this!

Blog has a great name, too.

MamieTamar -- let's talk. I'll run it by my agent. That would be pretty cool.

Do you have a website or something where we could take a look at your work?

Reinhard

Thanks for the feedback! Interesting how solving one problem reveals the next "bottleneck" -- happens all the time in software. I've gotten a very good handle on "not getting drunk," but now have a problem with slightly too much on a regular basis. It's a far less serious problem, but still, it's no...

One thing I'm curious about: does anyone notice the sound quality being any better?

Reinhard

When I would do shovelglove, I would turn on Netflix and watch a particular program. I would lose count, but as long as that hammer was moving... Another reason perhaps why I've gone to smaller rep count sets :-) and would love to know how your personal S-days go, for example. I'm strict about when...

Sorry for the cross-posting, just wanted to make sure No-essers saw it too:

https://everydaysystems.com/podcast/episode.php?id=49

I'd like to thank NoSDoc for encouraging me to record this update. I'd been considering it for a while, but his was the final nudge I needed.

https://everydaysystems.com/podcast/episode.php?id=49

Hope you enjoy it -- expect a follow-up on the "spiritual/organizational" systems soon.

RAWCOOKIE has lost weight on the nosdiet, but what really impresses me is the psychological benefits she describes (please do yourself a favor and read her whole yearly check-in!): From: https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=10980 The BIGGEST thing that the No S system has given me is CALMN...

That hadn't occurred to me, but that would be a great way to do it.

Reinhard

Rawcookie -- I love this. Congratulations and thank you for sharing this post with us. I love the freedom, the calmness, the sanity; I love the emphasis on habit vs. pounds or whatever. I love that the habitcal is proving a really useful too for you. So great to read about your profound, continuing ...

I'm sorry you had an unpleasant interaction here -- on the whole, it's a pretty warm and welcoming place. I'm not quite sure what happened but please feel free to let me know privately if you'd like me to look into it without inevitable public escalation. I am very happy you're here! And though it's...

Congratulations!

That's a hell of a milestone.

Though it sounds like you're doing great with your 5-pound skilletglove, I have seen full length 6-pound sledges that might be a good next step.

Reinhard

Congratulations!

If it knocked you out so much that you spent the last couple of minutes in stupefied panting, that sounds like a hell of a workout!

Reinhard

Welcome! Sounds like a very sensible mod -- by easing up on the "no sweets" limitation, you make S days less necessary. You could call it the "3 meal diet."

I'm a big fan of "vanilla" no-s, but it's not the only flavor that works.

Reinhard

Welcome! And thanks for the interesting "mod." Certainly sounds like it could work for some people, either indefinitely, or as a stepping stone. I personally would have a hard time with it... I'm on the "lion" end of the appetite spectrum. Huge amounts at one sitting, seconds, thirds, etc. were my b...

Sadly it's just English... if you know anyone will to translate, please let me know and I'll put them in touch with my agent.

NoSDoc gave me permission to post an image of the graph he used to track his progress. Very impressive!

well done!

Welcome! My eight year old daughter is champing at the bit to do shovelglove, but I'm a little hesitant to let her at the hammer just yet. I am confident that in just a few more years we'll have another eager female practitioner reporting from the field. Best of luck -- I've see full-length hammers ...

I'm glad to see the 14 minute thing is catching on...

I always thought it was the most power aspect of shovelglove.

Thanks for the link! I tend to stick with unvaried ungodly numbers of pushups and squats for my travel 14 minutes, this will be nice to mix it up a bit.

Rienhard

nice! Congratulations!

Thank you SpiritSong!

Is this sticky of stickies working?

I'm getting the sense that people aren't visiting these formerly "first degree" sticky threads nearly as much....

Thoughts anyone?

Reinhard

Welcome!

No S is the ultimate cure for diet head.

It wouldn't be much of an exaggeration to say that the only reason is the word "diet" is even in there is to get the attention of diet headers in search of a cure.

Reinhard

Welcome back!

It's certainly possible, but I wouldn't focus on that.

Focus on the habit.

"Eat and move moderately, see what happens."

That's the No-s way to best calibrate your expectations.

Best of luck and keep us posted,

Reinhard

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