Everyday Systems

I hope we can consolidate these great sources, just in case strugglers need more justification. So post here anything that seems to support limiting (but not Eliminating) and of the S's. (I'm even going to link the thread on resources to support no snacking alone.)

I consider the second link to be in support of moderation on our plate, which some might call a corollary. We're kidding ourselves if we think default chowing down on a plate of dense foods is going to get us the delight in food and body that we'd like.

https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopi ... highlight=

http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/l ... story.html

Thanks for that first link - I'll have a good read of all those later today.

The second link? takes me to a page about a child-killer? I think maybe the link isn't working it the way you intended, or am I missing something?

The second link also takes me to an internet page about a child killer. Maybe needs editing or removing?

Thanks! I've corrected it above.

The other one was a mistake, from a unit we are studying in our senior English class on brain research and whether it's valid to try some young criminals as adults. I must have accidentally cut and pasted that URL. Mu!st have been a shock

Sorta long, but some may appreciate the bolstering.

https://www.designmom.com/french-food-habits/

It's true that "French women don't get fat" but, well, we were eating that way in the US up until sometime in the late 70s. Granted, my mom shopped at the supermarket and not at charming bakeries, butcher shops and greenmarkets, but we ate 3 squares a day of pretty decent meals (no presweetened cereal, very few desserts, no snacking) and no one was overweight. Our family was not unique. When I look back at pictures in high school (I graduated in 1974), there were almost no "fat" kids and they were actually just chubby. There were NO obese kids in my graduating class of over 900 students or in my entire high school. My friends in college weren't overweight. None of my parents' friends were overweight. There were just a lot fewer overweight people 40+ years ago, for a variety of reasons, one of which is people just ate less.

This sure isn't the case now, sad to say.

Here are a couple more from different times. Link any you know of here, please!

https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11686

https://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=10810(this one is more from a health POV, not the satisfaction/hunger issue.

Hoping this article is not already posted somewhere. It is long and filled with fluff, but if you take the time to read it through, the summary at the end truly supports the main points of NO S even if a wee bit modified from Vanilla. (I personally am a "3 meals a day/7 days a week anything on your plate" non-vanilla NO S-er like 3-0-7 girl and lifeisablessing)

It also shows that meal timing may need to be a higher priority with someone who has an erratic schedule to avoid waiting too long between meals which this girl learned the hard way (or should I say the hangry way).

Also, I think many of us may relate to the beginning of our NO S journeys having some of the same reactions as this girl did.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/162733- ... t-happened

I find the French eating culture to be very much in line with NO S, so I hope this link is appropriate to add here.

This is a youtube video I just LOVE on French eating habits from an actual French person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRB4nlFo4XA

oolala53 wrote:Thanks! I've corrected it above.

The other one was a mistake, from a unit we are studying in our senior English class on brain research and whether it's valid to try some young criminals as adults. I must have accidentally cut and pasted that URL. Mu!st have been a shock

I guess one of these would be in poor taste?

This French woman promotes much of the same of what I have read about French eating, except that I have NEVER heard of the TWELVE fruits and veggies a day. I would bet that puts her on the outskirts of French culture. The rest of it sounds about right, although it certainly seems like snacking and manufactured foods are making their way in to the culture, too. Quel dommage.

Have you ever read Lessons from Madame Chic? The author talks about the meals she ate with her host family in France, among other things. Pretty darn moderate portions. (BTW, that young woman seems to have parlayed her stay into several books on many aspects of life, including finances:debt-free living. Can't have much excess there.) It's quite interesting in that it seemed like a very simple retelling of what happened but she must have touched a nerve. Whether many readers every actually implement much of what she says is another question. It's more fun to read the books and get excited about who we might be than to actually do it.

We're lucky to have a little tribe to do it with together.

This is from a blog by Brad Pilon. I don't mean to push his protocol AT ALL, but I have appreciated his very reasoned way of talking about the issue. (He even said once that if he thought he could never have X ice cream again, he'd just go buy bigger pants.)
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It’s your day-to-day activities, the mundane of your every day life, that determines your weight, your happiness, your wealth, and your health.

As such, “rutsâ€, or patterns of behavior, are what define who you are.

In other words, who you are is formed through practice and this is where great change can occur.

Consider the following – it is often said the 99% of people who lose weight gain it all back.

This statement is refers to people who lose weight in research studies, then after the study is complete, even with counseling and outreach services, these people tend to slowly gain most (but usually not all) of their weight back.

Why??? Because they didn’t really change their day-to-day practices, they just passed on the responsibility to someone else, in this case the people in charge of the study. When the study was over, they regressed back to their typical lives, with their typical day-to-day practice.

It is your daily, habitual physical AND mental habits that are most important, not the time spent in the gym (which, even if you work out for an hour a day every day, is only 5% of your week).

This is why long term weight loss is difficult. If you’re heavier than you want to be, if you’ve had trouble losing weight in the past, then I’m not just asking you to workout, or even to start fasting one or twice per week, I’m asking you to slowly, purposefully start to change your day-to-day life."

Vive No S! (That's me. )

https://www.nbcnews.com/better/pop-cult ... ncna855206

This is very in line with No S, love the meta rules and what they say about habit. I read the book recently and got lots from it.

Our member Savor liked that article, too, in February. I'm glad it's on this thread now as well. (Consolidation, Baby!) I think if Habitcal alone isn't working for people, it helps to have a lot of sources to bolster the effort, since there's SO much opposing advice out there.

But I do wonder what it means by "kept the weight off." How do they know? Has it been at least two years? But it does sound like their habits are easier to keep in place than "diets."

Also not sure about not wasting calories on foods you don't love. I spent years trying not to overdo manufactured foods I loved. I can't honestly say I love kale as much as I love lasagne, but I know I love a meal with both now more than either alone.

from Cedar's Check-In: 10 Principles
This Blog describes how the author overcame an eating disorder, stopped excessive exercising, & lost weight 18 years ago by focusing on 3 healthy meals.
18 years of maintaining a healthy weight without neurotic obsessive attention is a rare track record.

Thanks for this. I wonder how long ago it was that she made the change? I like especially how she emphasized having the meal and getting on to the next thing.

I know this source is referenced on another thread. It's got several sections. Apparently, the member here who brought it found it first and No S second, though I may be wrong and it's only an incidental fact.

https://www.eatlikeanormalperson.com/

All the links here are very useful and interesting. And this last blog I love!

Yes I love the last blog too, but she hardly updates and it's a little frustrating especially when she has listed the future articles she intends to write..they look so interesting and helpful!

Yes, I agree Cedar!

Did anyone have any trouble with it on Chrome? I found I could not scroll down on the pages. I could on Safari, though.

http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_publi ... id=6330783

A review of another similar system like No-S from a person with 2 years on the plan, I love how this article breathes common sense into this way of eating, and cements to me even further how much nonsense fad diets and being a slave to calorie counting is!

I need constant reminders to stay away from shiny distractions, so thanks oolala for creating this thread!

(PS I am adding this after reading comments on the spark site for this article, I see Oolala you have already read this one! Sorry if I duplicated posting it here.)

I don't mind being reminded. The food manufacturers and diet industry take every chance they can to lure me to their side! I gotta tell you, though, that woman's ultra lean body on the cover of the book triggers me some. But not counting calories: yeah, Baby! I don't have to count calories to know a huge plate of nachos is a bad idea. Etc.

https://www.thespruce.com/eat-like-fren ... ht-1375590

"Snacking is virtually unheard of in France."

oolala53 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzSfpw93cwU

EXCELLENT video Oolala, I liked so much I watched it twice

Thanks, Missy. Although I wish there had been more pictures of "French portions." That pastry thing didn't look that small to e. And I wish it had shown her actually taking a bite! I'd love to see what people typically eat at each meal. I suspect that in volume and density, it doesn't vary that much. And a lot less of "all that X" that article writers hook readers with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUJuZSwy_bA

oolala this video is from a girl who lived with a French family and it shows some of her meals on a plate/bowl, so these are likely to be the portions she has been used to from when she was in France. She has other videos on how the french eat and live as well on youtube.

Thought this one may be helpful to post as well.

Thanks for finding that. I looked at her dinner one, too. I need a lot more vegetable than she serves. I usually have some greens plus two vegetables. And I often have a fruit, too. There is so much space visible on her plates! It does look civilized. I guess I'd be considered a big eater in France.

I read her first book a few years ago. She has sure turned that into a sort of franchise.

http://nourishingminimalism.com/blog/el ... eals-more/

I hope this one has not been posted already, I apologize if it has.

Love the list of benefits to only eat at mealtimes.

I haven't seen that one. What a brave young woman! especially with a toddler but bravo. I concur with all her reasons, and the slim French and Italians do, too, I believe.

I hate to tell you that not snacking doesn't mean my sink stays clear of dishes...

Thanks to those of you who have shared here! It feeds my need to read/ watch " diet " stuff but without making me want to try something new and shiny. I love reading articles about the French eating habits and loved the book French women don't get fat. I sometimes go to YouTube and search '1950's nutrition" and watch old educational films that they used to show school kids about how to eat. Makes me happy. Lol.

I don't think I've seen this article in here yet. I love it. It's by a lady who traveled to Italy and she talks about differences between the Italian and American eating habits. Makes me want to visit Italy and learn their ways.

MM, do you remember where that article on the woman who went to Italy is? I've read several over the years. I remember reading a book written by a young woman who lived in Italy for about five months. She was obese before that, but had started to diet and lose before she went, but it was still a turning point for her. She talked of three meals, no more, no less, and walking walking walking. I'm not sure she stuck to three meals back in the States. What amazes me about her is that she has a website where she has all these recipes of foods she's learned to cook and a bunch of them are sweets, and not diet sweets. I have still never been able to go back to baking. I would likely still eat the whole bowl of frosting.

Another article supporting the non snacking "S"

https://www.elainebrisebois.com/5-reaso ... the-snack/

I find it positive reinforcement to continue to find multiple sources that also think that not snacking is the way to go.

Sorry I just saw this oolala! I didn't realize that the article didn't attach to my post. I will try to find it. By the way, one of the reasons that I haven't been on here lately is something so stupid. On my new cell phone, when I double tap the Forum to make it bigger it still is so tiny that I can't read it and then if I enlarge it to where I can read it I'm constantly taking my finger and swiping back and forth to read the lines. Something so small yet so irritating! LOL

Awesome. tx

The "blawnde" article was awesome! Makes me want to book a flight to Italy to see (and taste) firsthand all the wonderful cultural food practices. I love the focus on fresh foods, if only here in the upper midwest we could access farmers markets for more than just a few months a year. It is so true that fresh unprocessed food is what our bodies truly crave and are satisfied with less of it than fast food, etc. Although that has it's place too, just not an every day occurence.

LOL I love the caption under the first photo, full and happy. Most of us US serial dieters have never been able to utter those two words together, until NO S came along!

A very interesting podcast to listen to or read on line :

https://www.theenergyblueprint.com/how- ... =5d2445d22

It deals with questions we are all asking ourselves, and concludes that the best diet hands up is the one you can stay on, and even if the results are poorer at first than on other diets, adherence is always the winner in the end.

Wonderful resource MamieTamar--thank you for posting! And I agree 100% with your summary: adherence is the key!