Back after 2 years

vcanfield · Post by **vcanfield** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:53 pm

I found this site 2 years ago and thought it was a pretty cool idea. However, I think I was not really ready for it so I slipped it into the "examine this later, if you remember" mental file. So, just 2 days ago I stumbled on the book at Amazon.com while perusing the diet books. You see, I have been on a serious quest for the holy grail of weight loss for about 25 years. Can you believe my mom was okay with me doing Atkins at 14! I was (and still am) 5'0 tall and I was thrilled when I went from 90 lbs to 84 lbs. Ridiculous.

So, after 2 years I am now 10 lbs. over what I was on my first visit here. It is obvious the holy grail of dieting has eluded me. I was doing Core at Weight Watchers and somehow I managed to gain 5 pounds in 4 days after it took close to 6 weeks to lose them. It defies all laws of nature. So, after being castigated on a Core board for daring to describe a humorous encounter with Chocolate Molten Cake (the moderator said I should have just used the words "food porn"- ick or left the lovely food words as blanks) I decided I could not live with the boring food choices and stodgy support to boot.

So, here I am. I love words and I love food. I want them both. Now, at 134 I am hoping to get down to 105-110, which is a good weight for me, and one I have not seen for since my son was born 6 years ago. I am more then fine with losing 1 pound a week. I was doing that before, but the time it took to count, weigh, measure, cook, freeze, chart, etc. was becoming a full time job. I am a teacher and now that summer is over I only have room for one job; losing weight is not the one that pays the bills. Here's hoping the No S diet is the holy grail way of eating.

CrazyCatLady · Post by **CrazyCatLady** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:08 pm

Welcome back, VCanfield. I had some success with Weight Watchers, too. But I remember at Easter, when people were talking about how many calories were in a single jelly bean, and I was thinking, who counts one jelly bean?!? I ate the whole bag! LOL!

I'm not certain that this is the Holy Grail of diets. More like a flashlight shining on a dark path, urging you to go this way. Although it does take some effort, the main thing I find about No S is that I don't need to think about it much. It is a very common sense plan, and while it works slowly, it does work!

Five ft tall and 84 pounds? Shudders!

BrightAngel · Post by **BrightAngel** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:15 pm

CrazyCatLady wrote:
Five ft tall and 84 pounds? Shudders!

84 lbs is underweight,
however, I've found that taller, large-boned women
have difficulty accepting the low weights that are reasonable for small-boned short women.

Here are some numbers to put that height and weight in perspective.
For A 5'0" Female, the majority of Charts say:

A healthy weight for a 5'0" female is between 127 lbs and 95 lbs
with large-boned women at the high-end, and small-boned women at the low-end.
128 lbs is overweight, and 94 lbs is underweight.

The BMI for 127 lbs is: 24.8

The BMI for 95 lbs is: 18.6

Overweight begins at 128 lbs and a BMI of 25 and above,

Underweight begins at 94 lbs and a BMI of 18.5 and below.

Anexoria begins at 89 lbs and a BMI below 17.6.

According to recent studies,
the average American woman is 5'4" and 140 lbs,
while the average Model is 5'10" and 117 lbs.
5'10 and 117 lbs is a BMI of 16.8.
The 16.8 BMI average Model equivalent for 5'0" tall is 86 lbs.

fizXgirl314 · Post by **fizXgirl314** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:46 pm

according to your chart, 84 pounds is anorexic...?

welcome to the boards! i had a similar experience with nutrisystem boards. i would be baffled when people would ask if they could have an extra serving of steamed broccoli for dinner. i honestly thought it was insanity...:/

BrightAngel · Post by **BrightAngel** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:54 pm

fizXgirl314 wrote:according to your chart, 84 pounds is anorexic...?

In the majority of BMI charts,
Aneorexia is defined as a BMI of less than 17.6.
The BMI for 5'0" tall and 90 lbs is 17.6.
The BMI for 5'0" tall and 84 lbs is 16.4.

Nagla929 · Post by **Nagla929** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:10 pm

Welcome, vcanfield.

I am a teacher, too.

I find that during prep periods I get the munchies, so last school year, while I was counting calories to lose weight (I hadn't yet discovered no S) I would try to chew gum and drink water to keep from snacking.

This school year, I will try to do the same and/or drink other beverages that aren't full of sugar. Hoping this will help.

Please let me know if you have any other "tricks" for not eating during prep periods.

vmelo · Post by **vmelo** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:32 pm

fizXgirl314 wrote:welcome to the boards! i had a similar experience with nutrisystem boards. i would be baffled when people would ask if they could have an extra serving of steamed broccoli for dinner. i honestly thought it was insanity...:/

I agree. I'm a member of several dieting boards, but I can only take so much of reading the posts. I sometimes think of how my husband would view a post that reads: "Let's revisit the peanut butter cookie issue"---I don't think he'd believe that it was serious.

fizXgirl314 · Post by **fizXgirl314** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:35 pm

hehe yeah we do get a little nutty with our food relationships... but i knew i had to leave when people who disliked the food (it was aweful by the way) would be given the "you're not committed to losing weight... you must make sacrifices blah blah blah" speech. it just doesn't seem right that one should have to eat vomit in order to lose weight...

fizXgirl314 · Post by **fizXgirl314** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:36 pm

BrightAngel wrote:
fizXgirl314 wrote:according to your chart, 84 pounds is anorexic...?
In the majority of BMI charts,
Aneorexia is defined as a BMI of less than 17.6.
The BMI for 5'0" tall and 90 lbs is 17.6.
The BMI for 5'0" tall and 84 lbs is 16.4.

i'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or what?

vcanfield · Post by **vcanfield** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:51 pm

Nagla929 wrote:Welcome, vcanfield.

I am a teacher, too. I find that during prep periods I get the munchies, so last school year, while I was counting calories to lose weight (I hadn't yet discovered no S) I would try to chew gum and drink water to keep from snacking.

This school year, I will try to do the same and/or drink other beverages that aren't full of sugar. Hoping this will help.

Please let me know if you have any other "tricks" for not eating during prep periods.

I'm thinking of using gum. I don't think that really counts as a snack, so it should be okay.

vcanfield · Post by **vcanfield** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:12 pm

BrightAngel wrote:
CrazyCatLady wrote:
Five ft tall and 84 pounds? Shudders!
84 lbs is underweight,
however, I've found that taller, large-boned women
have difficulty accepting the low weights that are reasonable for small-boned short women.

Here are some numbers to put that height and weight in perspective.
For A 5'0" Female, the majority of Charts say:
A healthy weight for a 5'0" female is between 127 lbs and 95 lbs
with large-boned women at the high-end, and small-boned women at the low-end.
128 lbs is overweight, and 94 lbs is underweight.

The BMI for 127 lbs is: 24.8

The BMI for 95 lbs is: 18.6

Overweight begins at 128 lbs and a BMI of 25 and above,

Underweight begins at 94 lbs and a BMI of 18.5 and below.

Anexoria begins at 89 lbs and a BMI below 17.6.

According to recent studies,
the average American woman is 5'4" and 140 lbs,
while the average Model is 5'10" and 117 lbs.
5'10 and 117 lbs is a BMI of 16.8.
The 16.8 BMI average Model equivalent for 5'0" tall is 86 lbs.

84 pounds was slightly underweight for me at the time. I was only 14 and I was the size of a 12 year old with no real curves to speak of so I was not exactly skin and bones. The fact my mom did not discourage me was the ridiculous part.

I know what you mean about people looking at you cross-eyed when you mention wanting to get your weight down to 100-105. When I am at 105 I usually wear a size 3/4, If I go to 110 I start in on size 5/6, 115 size 7/8 and etc. I don't want to be wearing the same size clothes normal-looking 5'5 girls wear. By then I just start looking dumpy. Although I would take dumpy right now and rejoice. I am waaaay past dumpy, I am well into chunky at this point.

vmelo · Post by **vmelo** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:22 am

fizXgirl314 wrote:hehe yeah we do get a little nutty with our food relationships... but i knew i had to leave when people who disliked the food (it was aweful by the way) would be given the "you're not committed to losing weight... you must make sacrifices blah blah blah" speech. it just doesn't seem right that one should have to eat vomit in order to lose weight...

Yes--I think that happens when people are gung-ho into a program. They refuse to admit that it's less than perfect.

fizXgirl314 · Post by **fizXgirl314** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:50 am

yeah i don't expect perfection from a program... but it should at least have some long term appeal...

btw, being on this diet has been working for me incredibly well. not only do i feel lighter in terms of not being stuffed. but also lighter in weight... i haven't weighed myself, but in only a few days i can already see a difference in the way my clothes fit. i knew this diet was perfect cuz i knew my problem was with extra sweets and extra snacking... any time i've ever lost weight on a program it has been because of any regularity in my meals it produces and less because of the calorie/carb counting...

so i'm thrilled

Nichole · Post by **Nichole** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:35 pm

Good luck vcanfield! You can do it!!

Post by **reinhard** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:03 pm

Welcome back!

No-s is really about training yourself to eat moderately, not about hitting some number, so as long as you honestly buy into that, I think you'll be OK. Eating moderately (and don't forget moving moderately) is a good idea no matter what your weight or height or what kind of genes or "intestinal flora" you may have. And I think most people, with a little patience, will be very happy with the results.

Reinhard

FarmerHal · Post by **FarmerHal** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:39 am

Welcome back! Reinhard said it well;, it's about training yourself to eat a modest meal with normal portions and not eating inbetween.

Keep us posted. I've lost 35lbs now and kept it off even with many, many slip ups. As in, I tripped but did not fall!

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