Doctor Oz
Moderators: Soprano, automatedeating
Doctor Oz
I happened to see the Doctor Oz show yesterday. Rosie O'Donnell was his guest, talking about how she's losing weight: three plates of food a day, no snacks. He was concerned that by limiting herself to only three plates of food daily, she'd lose weight too quickly. She's losing about a pound a week.
On today's show he will be encouraging people to have one cheat day weekly. People who cheat lose more weight.
On today's show he will be encouraging people to have one cheat day weekly. People who cheat lose more weight.
"That which we persist in doing becomes easier for us to do. Not that the nature of the thing itself has changed but our power to do it is increased." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
"You are what you eat -- so don't be Fast, Easy, Cheap or Fake."
"You are what you eat -- so don't be Fast, Easy, Cheap or Fake."
-
- Posts: 140
- Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:59 pm
- Location: Florida
I'm guessing they implied it's shocking because I think she has been rather defiant about her weight and food choices in the past.
I'm starting to look askance at Dr. Oz. His show is almost as bad as a news program. He jumps from topic to topic and obviously has to fill the time but can't expect much in the way of attention span from his viewers. However, I'm sure he does some segment of the population some good.
I'm just about at the point at which I don't want to hear from anyone until s/he has kept the weight off for two years or more.
I'm starting to look askance at Dr. Oz. His show is almost as bad as a news program. He jumps from topic to topic and obviously has to fill the time but can't expect much in the way of attention span from his viewers. However, I'm sure he does some segment of the population some good.
I'm just about at the point at which I don't want to hear from anyone until s/he has kept the weight off for two years or more.
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
I agree. Any fad diet can get some weight off quick, but the major accomplishment is keeping it off. I only pay full attention/want to learn about diet methods that have helped them keep it off long-term.oolala53 wrote:I'm just about at the point at which I don't want to hear from anyone until s/he has kept the weight off for two years or more.
SW (as of 3/25/13): 172 lbs.
CW: 171 lbs.
CW: 171 lbs.
They weren't looking at Rosie's weight loss as an accomplishment, especially since she's only lost about 15 pounds. It was more about the importance of weight loss in terms of health and some of the emotional reasons people may "choose" to gain or not lose.gk wrote:I agree. Any fad diet can get some weight off quick, but the major accomplishment is keeping it off. I only pay full attention/want to learn about diet methods that have helped them keep it off long-term.oolala53 wrote:I'm just about at the point at which I don't want to hear from anyone until s/he has kept the weight off for two years or more.
"That which we persist in doing becomes easier for us to do. Not that the nature of the thing itself has changed but our power to do it is increased." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
"You are what you eat -- so don't be Fast, Easy, Cheap or Fake."
"You are what you eat -- so don't be Fast, Easy, Cheap or Fake."
That is a better focus. I also think it would be great if they talk to her again in a year, if she has kept up the changes, even if she's not thin. I find it hard to believe she won't have lost 10% of her weight, if she's being honest with herself about how much she really needs at those meals.
I think it would be great if he would periodically bring on people who have lost 10% of their weight and kept it off for two years or more. They wouldn't all be skinny and that would be good to see. You don't have to get thin to get a lot of benefit. I actually got more courage to attempt changing my habits again when I saw that it was unlikely I would get as slim as I liked but that it would still do me good, physically and emotionally, just to eat moderately and be less in the clutches of food. Thankfully, in the first year I lost nearly 10% and have now lost 13%. I doubt I could have done it in a more peaceful way, and I have come to appreciate the "peaceful" way to do it.
I think it would be great if he would periodically bring on people who have lost 10% of their weight and kept it off for two years or more. They wouldn't all be skinny and that would be good to see. You don't have to get thin to get a lot of benefit. I actually got more courage to attempt changing my habits again when I saw that it was unlikely I would get as slim as I liked but that it would still do me good, physically and emotionally, just to eat moderately and be less in the clutches of food. Thankfully, in the first year I lost nearly 10% and have now lost 13%. I doubt I could have done it in a more peaceful way, and I have come to appreciate the "peaceful" way to do it.
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
BTW, I went to look at what Rosie said she was doing and it was very disappointing. Her foods sound very constricted. She said she eats mostly vegetables at lunch with a salad. Vegetables with a salad? And a green drink in the morning along with a bowl of cereal. Meat, brown rice and veggies for dinner. It's not that the meals are bad, but that it sounds like she is prematurely constricting herself. Yes, she feels better now. How many of us dieted, felt better, but rebelled and went back to overeating and gaining? I believe No S helped because I was choosing all my foods for my own reasons. I purposely included foods others might not think of as diet foods because I wanted them and I learned that small portions were plenty. I hope no one assumes from this show that her three plates are anything like No S. I hope she doesn't rebound.
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Most of you know I am not a fan of the good Dr. Oz. I see nothing wrong with a pound a week, 4 pounds a month, 48- 52 pounds a year. He must have a supplement, or superfood he wants to sell soon.
Bacon is the gateway meat. - Anthony Bourdain
You pale in comparison to Fox Mulder. - The Smoking Man
I made myself be hungry, then I would get hungrier. - Frank Zane Mr. Olympia '77, '78, '79
You pale in comparison to Fox Mulder. - The Smoking Man
I made myself be hungry, then I would get hungrier. - Frank Zane Mr. Olympia '77, '78, '79
I don't think he meant that 1 pound a week was too fast. I bet he was surprised she wasn't losing more on those measly meals. Good Lord, how little would she have to eat to lose the proverbial 2 lbs. a week?
For me, a pound a week would be glorious! But I'm relatively happy with how I'm eating, so I am determined to be satisfied with the body I get with that until Mar. 20. I think Rosie will have lost a greater percentage than I will have, but let's see where we both are in 2 years.
For me, a pound a week would be glorious! But I'm relatively happy with how I'm eating, so I am determined to be satisfied with the body I get with that until Mar. 20. I think Rosie will have lost a greater percentage than I will have, but let's see where we both are in 2 years.
Count plates, not calories. 11 years "during"
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)
Age 69
BMI Jan/10-30.8
1/12-26.8 3/13-24.9 +/- 8-lb. 3 yrs
9/17 22.8 (flux) 3/18 22.2
2 yrs flux 6/20 22
1/21-23
There is no S better than Vanilla No S (mods now as a senior citizen)