Linda's daily check-in

Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by margot17 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:25 am

It wasn't me who wrote it, I had to google the sq ft, but congratulations it's a big house!

Would you be open to move the meal of the day to lunch for a while, or would it be too inconvenient? I remember when I listened to their very good podcast, one of the 2 keto dudes, who did OMAD, changed from dinner to lunch, and it made a great difference for him.

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Post by lpearlmom » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:25 am

Oops sorry Margot! This new format messes me up! I bet id do good with like a 2pm-4 pm window but I have a hard time of letting go of family meal time. I feel like I will be able to experiment more once my girls are off to college 😢. I just really want them to see me eating “normally “ as much as possible.

Today did not go as planned. Hormones have me wanting to eat everything in sight. Im really afraid of gaining all the weight back. Tomorrow will be better.
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Post by lpearlmom » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:19 am

Do you think, Id gain weight back if I went back to NoS vanilla? Im feeling so burnt out on fasting lately. :/
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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by nonoodles » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:01 pm

I pretty much never comment but love the vibe and philosophy of this board, and find a lot of the people and their journeys interesting and inspirational. And you are one of them!
As to fasting, from what I can see from your posts, it just doesn’t appear to be working for you anymore, and does seem to be causing you lots of stress. Maybe just try to lock in your losses and mix it up again.
There is no law that says you have to eat one way for the rest of your life!
I have had years of vegan, vegetatarian, low fat, low carb and they each felt good in their time and kept my weight in check AS LONG AS I cut the snacking, sugar, junky food and giant portions (ie seconds:) I think the framework of no s is pretty perfect, except for the s day concept. If you can follow the Sometimes part it’s great, but for me it just keeps the bad habits going strong. But that’s just me.
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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by Soprano » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:19 pm

I've thought for a while you might not be eating enough now. Nos would be a great way to start but you might have to be prepared for some increase in weight while your body adjusts.

So I'd say 3 meals but watch portion sizes and composition.

You've done great so far just don't panic

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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by Staff Assistant III » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:47 pm

Hi Linda!

I'm currently doing NoS in a limted eating window....after reading much of the Circadian Code, I think a 10 hour window mainly during the day works well for me. I am in a norma weight range but would love to be a little lower on the scale, and this seems to combine the best of both. I did fast for several months lost (never more than a 1/2 lb a week but that's normal for me on any plan) but felt that OMAD didn't work well for me for various reasons.

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Post by Kathleen » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:47 pm

Linda,
Don't take it as a failure of willpower that you are feeling burned out on fasting. Maybe it is your body that has had enough, and it is best to listen to it. I tried an eating window of 12 hours and gained back 10 of the 15 pounds I had lost with a 7 hour window, so now I am back to the 7 hour eating window. We are all different and have to figure out what works for us. From reading your story, I think it might work for you to lengthen your eating window from OMAD and allow your body to adjust to the lower weight you realized through fasting. Life is short. You have kids at home. Years from now, you may be happy that you enjoyed these years with your kids. One of our children is married. This year, we will drive total of 21 hours to spend 6 hours seeing her get her master's degree, we will fly to Oregon to spend a weekend with her where she has an internship, and we will see her for a few days at Christmas. Yes, we are in frequent contact with her, but personal time together is so limited. Do I regret how much time I spent on dieting? Yes.
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PS. When I am walking at the gym, I listen to podcasts and today I listened to the beginning of a podcast on intermittent fasting in which the person being interviewed said that there can be paradoxical effects (not expected) from intermittent fasting especially in women, negative effects like a rise in the stress hormone cortisol. Podcast is from the Broken Brain Podcast by Dhru Purohit: "Biohacking for Better Health: Intermittent Fasting, Ketogenic Diet and Lab Testing with Robin Berzin."
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Post by lpearlmom » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:25 pm

Thanks you guys so much for the support, compassion and advice. Well I had a piece of toast at 10:30 am and didn’t suddenly gain 20 lbs. I walked the dogs, did my weight routine and just felt really hungry. I thought this is ridiculous, I should be able to have a piece of toast without it being such a big deal.

It sucks because I really really thought IF was the answer for me, but I guess in the end it was just another stupid diet? Idk, I feel kind of stupid and mostly I’m embarrassed. My biggest fear is gaining back weight and seeing those ppl that showered me with compliments but maybe I won’t gain. And let’s face it, I’m already gaining weight (up to 163 lbs today) so I don’t know if it matters what I do or don’t do as far as that goes.

I cried today thinking how much abuse my body has been through. It’s just trying to do its best. It’s been through so dang much with so much extreme dieting and exercising followed my overeating and underexercising and just so much daily judgement no matter what it does.

I know NoS is the answer to all these extremes but I will just never be an “acceptable “ weight with moderation. Oh well , what other option do I have ? Not any good ones.

I think I’ll give myself the option of doing NoS but letting me have that first meal as late as feels good and give myself the option of skipping meals if I want but the point is my 3 plates are there if I need them. I do know I can never go back to unstructured S days again so will need a plan for that. *Sigh*
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Post by lpearlmom » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:55 am

Nono: well I’m glad ypu did comment because what you said made a lot of sense. You’re right, IF definitely just is not working for me anymore. I cant believe i was so blind to it but I guess I just really wanted to make it work. I agree about the S days too. Mine never calmed dowm. I guess it’s back to the basics.

Soprano: Thank you, you’re right I can’t panic. Just time to regroup.

Staffy: I think I’ll beopen to pushing breakfast back or even just skipping it depending upon how Im feeling but I just cant have any hard rules with fasting right now. It really seemed to be causing me some backlash behaviors. Weird that it took this long for them to start to come out. I really loved fasting for awhile.

Kathleen: i know it’s crazy how much time and energy Ive put into losing weight. I guess what was most disturbing to me is that I was starting to have old unhealthy behaviors pop up like near bingeing and obsessive thoughts. I really havent gone down that road in many years. And you’re right, time with our children is precious. Anything that takes from that isnt worh it.

Sooo i dont really know what I’m doing but I’ll figure it out.


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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by Soprano » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:06 am

Have you measured yourself, you are doing some good exercise it might not be fat you are gaining.

How many calories in a froyo bar?

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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by margot17 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:45 am

I can't believe I feel so heartbroken for someone who weighs 150-60 lb... :wink:
Hope things will resolve soon for you! Maybe you have stalled at this weight for enough time for it to have become a setpoint, and you won't gain weight easily. I certainly wish that for you. Get some WELL-DESERVED refeeding phase! then you'll think what to do next with a clearer mind. A hug.

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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by automatedeating » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:33 pm

Sometimes I have a weekend of big eating and I'm shocked at how little I actually gain (I mean, a couple pounds maybe, but not scary horrible). So having a food-fest once in a while is probably good for resting our willpower muscles.

I think you may be on to something. Plateaus are not very motivating, you know?
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Post by lpearlmom » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:29 pm

Thanks you guys! It’s really not so much about the weight as it is about the disordered behaviors for me. I know that’s hard to believe for someone so seemingly focused on the scale but im just so relieved to be away from all that overly restrictive mindset. It was starting to put me back in that scary starve/binge cycle that i havent been since my 20s. Also, the obsessive pre-nos thinking was back in full force. IF was the first thing I thought about in the morning and the usually last thing I thought about each night. Not healthy!

Btw, I realize IF is great for many, many ppl. I think those of us with disordered tendencies just need to proceed with caution however.

Im going to figure this out—really! ☺️
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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by automatedeating » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:55 pm

Hello again - somehow I was replying to an earlier comment you had made when you were still trying to work the IF plan. Then I saw I had missed a crapload of posts this week and my comment didn't really fit with the more recent stuff.

Nonoodles - you should post more often! I second what Linda said - you make a lot of sense and it's fun to have people join the convo.

Linda - I think waiting until you are actually hungry to eat is perfect. It might be 9am or 10am or noon - whatever you know?

Anyway, of course you'll figure it out! You always do!
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Post by lpearlmom » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:12 pm

Thanks for the vote of confidence auto and yes things are happening rapidly on my thread over the last couple of days! Not to be dramatic but I kind of feel like i woke up from a long dream! ☺️
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Post by lpearlmom » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:33 am

Soprano: I used to measure myself every month but haven’t for awhile. I bet some of the gain is from the weight lifting though. I also think the gain will stop now that Im not having backlash eating from IF. Oh, 90 calories in a froyo bar but no way am i going back to counting calories. ☺️

Margot: thanks so much. Im hoping my weight stays here. I’m feeling pretty done with trying to lose more. Not worth the damage to my mental health.

Today was SO good! Feels really good not having to worry about milk in my tea or whether or chewing gum will break my fast. In the end it was just too restrictive for me I guess.

We’re getting our new dishwasher delivered tomorrow. Im excited—its the little things i guess. 😁



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Post by Soprano » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:57 am

I wasn't for one minute going to suggest counting calories :)

But being aware of the fact you are eating a 270 cal dessert on a regular basis might be useful :)

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Post by Octavia » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:57 am

Hi Linda,
How are you today? Hope you are feeling positive and excited about starting a new phase of life. And enjoying your well-deserved toast. It seems to me that IF has been great for you, and you’ve achieved a lot, but most things outlive their usefulness after a while and maybe it’s just the natural way of things, that you’re ready for a different approach. Nothing stays the same, and maybe IF has morphed into something that you’ve had the wisdom to recognise is no longer working. You’ve done it properly, for long enough, to get a good idea of the strengths and weaknesses of the system. So you should feel satisfied and proud! :) So many people dabble with these systems and have to rely on experts to point out the long-term pros and cons. But not ipearlmom, oh no! She does it right! She goes on that quest and learns for herself! :)

I sometimes wonder if there’s too much emphasis on ‘permanent’ success (in dieting or anything...) - yet we all know that nothing is permanent...life is a constant process of tweaking, changing path, adapting....in our relationships, families, hobbies, careers, health, everything. Like nonoodles said, these phases of eating behaviour can all be great while they last...maybe this isn’t a failure for IF, but simply a natural end.

Anyway, keep posting and let us know your new direction! X

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Post by lpearlmom » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:13 pm

Octavia thank you for your thoughtful response and that’s a nice positive spin on everything. Well I can’t speak for others, I can say that for me it wasn’t only not working for me anymore but leading to very unhealthy, disordered behaviors. I see these same behaviors are rampant on the IF boards so that’s worrisome too but like I said I can only speak to my experience.

Yup, Im quite aware of how much Im eating and know how to multiply 90x3 but thanks for that. I’m no longer going to list my food intake. That was just to calm me, not for others to scrutinize.
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Post by margot17 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:50 pm

lpearlmom wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:13 pm
Unfortunately, I can see all to clearly now that for the majority of ppl, IF leads to disordered eating.
Wow that's quite an insight, they sure don't tell you on youtube of this shadow aspect to IF.

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Post by Kathleen » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:07 pm

Hi Linda,

IF led to binge eating when I tried 3 36 hour fasts per week, when I tried OMAD, when I tried a 4 hour eating window, and even when I tried a 6 hour eating window. I did not lose weight with an 8 hour eating window and gained weight with a 12 hour eating window. That's why I settled on a 7 hour eating window. This is my story. Yours is different. OMAD did not work for you long term. Maybe lengthening your eating window could. I don't think it is necessarily the idea of IF that leads to disordered eating. I think it may be the length of the eating window that must be tweaked for each individual.

What I believe may be the indicator of a person who would be successful with IF is that it is easy to not eat but it is difficult to stop eating.

We are all rooting for you. We can give your our thoughts and share our experiences and wish you the best. You have done great. It may be that your body wants a little recovery time from the stress of OMAD.

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Post by Octavia » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:22 pm

...you’ve really got this, Linda, and I certainly do think something positive will come from your new insights. Sounds like this style of eating did lead you to some problematic and maybe scary areas, and it’s good that you’ve identified it before it got worse. And you have the safety net of basic No S to fall back on. Despite my own ups and downs, I still think the vanilla system is great for staying sane! Sending hugs x

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Post by 3squaremeals » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:07 am

Hi Linda

Sorry to hear that IF hasn't worked out for you. I have to admit that I occasionally get caught up in the restrictive eating pattern of IF and the clean fasting camp. IF only ever works for me when I do it Kayla's way, nice and relaxed by allowing myself milk in my tea and coffee and not cutting food groups. As soon as I start thinking about clean fasting and clean eating I start binging. The last few days have been really bad binge days for me, which hasn't happened in ages. I need to stop thinking about clean eating/fasting and get myself back to where I was as I felt in a good place with food. I feel OMAD is the only way for me because once I start eating I can't seem to stop unless of course I make it to my main meal then I have no problem stopping.

At the end of the day you have to do what works for you and if No S is what works then that is great or even a more relaxed approach to IF then that is also great. Disordered eating is awful, I completely understand how you feel xx

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Post by automatedeating » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:04 pm

Here I come in again after missing a boatload of comments. Not surprisingly, I found myself wanting to cut and paste a lot of Octavia's.
Nothing stays the same, and maybe IF has morphed into something that you’ve had the wisdom to recognise is no longer working.
Yes! Or even just a break after which someone can return to something later.
I sometimes wonder if there’s too much emphasis on ‘permanent’ success (in dieting or anything...) - yet we all know that nothing is permanent...life is a constant process of tweaking, changing path, adapting....in our relationships, families, hobbies, careers, health, everything. Like nonoodles said, these phases of eating behaviour can all be great while they last...maybe this isn’t a failure for IF, but simply a natural end.
Really quite poetic. Linda, perhaps you can do like Marie Kondo and pat your IF ideas and thank them for their time with you before taking them to the thrift store. :lol: :lol:
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Post by margot17 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:28 pm

Marie Kondo :lol:

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Post by margot17 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:19 pm

Hey Linda is it all fine with you? how is your refeeding going? do tell us!
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Post by Larkspur » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:46 pm

Seconding Octavia's lovely remarks-- trying new things is not necessarily bad-- you probably learned a lot in this process. If nothing else, your experience led me to some changes which have been lasting (so far) and quite helpful for both me and my husband :)

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Re: Linda's daily check-in

Post by nonoodles » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:48 pm

Hi Linda. It’s me, the Lurker :) I miss your posts! And I miss your girls and your food and your thoughts about anything and everything. Come back!!

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Post by automatedeating » Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:56 am

Linda - I know you'll come back when you are ready (I envision WonderWoman with her shield and awesome metal headband) - but I do miss you. "I ain't missing you at all tonight" - one of the best 80's songs, but we all know that guy was lying..... :-) I miss you. :-)

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Post by lpearlmom » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:28 am

Awww thank you guys! I really didn't think anyone would really notice if i just kind of disappeared. All is well although i have no idea what I’m doing eating wise. I admit i was kind of taken aback by how nonchalant everyone seemed about my recent struggles but I know it’s because nobody could really see how much pain I was in. I called my mom recently to tell her I had stopped fasting and just broke down crying. I told her I just felt like i was letting everyone down. She told me to forget about dieting and that she loved me no matter what. I cannot tell you how long I've been waiting to hear that. Well yeah its been about 41 years I guess.

Anyway, I realized that my eating issues are pretty complicated and am looking into getting some professional help. Thank you all for your support and encouragement but just feel like i need to kind of figure this out on my own for a bit without too much external input. Ill still be checking on everyone’s threads now and then and I’ll be back in a couple of months when Im feeling stronger.

PS Thanks auto, that song brought back some very strong memories! Love it!

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Post by automatedeating » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:31 am

OK, looking forward to hearing more from you when you are ready. And I will be very interested to hear if you find a good counselor for these issues - we will all learn from you.

And pretty sweet that your mom was there for you when you needed, despite how long it took for her to actually do it.
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Post by Octavia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:03 pm

Good luck with your journey, Linda. Do check in if you get time, I will really miss you! I hope you find the good help you deserve. You have certainly helped me. X

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Post by lpearlmom » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:32 am

I feel like Id like to post again. Honestly I feel a little lost without this place. I just feel so much better getting my thoughts down on “paper”. Plus, you all are amazing & you somehow put up with all my craziness.

Auto: yup, my mom is awesome. She’s really good at owning her mistakes.

Octavia: thanks for the kind words! 💗

Alot has happened in the last few weeks:

1) We got new carpet which was uber stressful but so happy we did it. It’s super lush (our old one was disgusting) and the girls are being super good about taking their shoes off.
2) My mil came and we went hot air ballooning.
3) I got eyelash extensions and love, love, love them.
4) Had my first colonoscopy and the prep was ever bit as disgusting as promised but the drugs did not live up to the hype.
5) We hosted a party for docs office staff and i had no idea how many hot young girls he worked with. I have no trust concerns but it did make me feel a bit old. ☺️
6) sweetpea is happy and being respectful but her grades are terrible right now. Not sure what to do. 🤦🏼‍♀️
7) Rosebud is doing great in school but she seems to be gaining a little weight and it makes me nervous. Id never say anything of course and she’s still like a size 4 instead of a zero but it’s interesting how this triggers me. I guess i don't want her to suffer like i have but of course in our weight obsessed society she’ll suffer no matter what her size is. 😞

Speaking of weight mine seems to just keep going up & up. Ive had quite the food fest and this two weeks of pmsing (thanks peri menopause) certainly isn't helping. I realized that the only thing that really helped me from obsessing about food and gave me any hope of having a healthy relationship with food was nos. I wish i never stopped but I gave into the pressure to be thinner and wanted to lose more weight. Well that and i thought it'd help with my reflux. It didn't.

Anyway, id like to try NoS again but i want to do it 7 days, with desserts added on weekends but no snacks. I just don't do good with all that free reign. I can have some true S days on special holidays and bdays but i really don't need them every weekend. Right now i just want consistency and routine. Of course, Im seeing a anti-diet dietician on Tuesday and Ill see what she says. She may want me to do something entirely different. Hopefully not intuitive eating. I cannot go back to 210 lbs. :/

I ate non-stop today and feel absolutely huge.

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Hi LInda, I wish you all the best & look forward to hearing about how things are with you.
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Post by Octavia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:45 am

Hi Linda,
I’m so happy you’ve posted! I actually felt a bit emotional. This forum is incredibly special. We have truly supported each other, and it’s amazing to find how women so far apart in the world are living through the same battles.

Anyway I love your new No S plan. I’m also busy formulating a new way ahead that sounds very like yours. I was very fed up with ongoing failure, or perhaps half-hearted mediocrity is a better way of describing it, and I know I need to modify my S days and take greater care to eat better on my N days. These things are starting to feel non-negotiable. The idea of ‘freedom’ just feels like the freedom to hurt myself through old, addictive patterns.

I can relate to your worries about the girls. My slim DD has become curvy this last year, and I can see how her self-esteem is reliant upon not crossing over that line into heaviness. And like you say, they will suffer no matter what their size is. I too feel I can’t afford to put any restrictions on what she eats (typical teenage diet). Her grades are also very up and down.

Well, I’d better get on and do something! Good luck with the dietician - can’t wait to hear how it goes - I hope she’s good.

PS hope all well re. Colonoscopy. Well done for enduring that...💐

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PPS. I love your motto ‘eyes on your own plate’!!! Here’s to that. :)

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Welcome back! Maybe there is a reason why we never left the No S discussion group even though we committed to intermittent fasting!
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Oooh, I like the sound of this plan!

So happy to hear your updates!
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Thank you lady!

Octavia: thanks for your sweet response! I really love this community too. Good luck with your daughter as well as your NoS plan. The S days always threw me off and those teen years are definitely challenging but we will figure out both! Oh and the colonoscopy went well. They said i don't need to come back for another 10 yrs. *phew*

Kathleen: i know, right? ☺️

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Was so nice eating 3 meals again. Feels so nice & normal My weight is crazy high but after all that pie and pms, Im not surprised. Im not super upset surprisingly enough. I don't even cate about losing weight anymore. It kind of seems like a lame goal right now. Its not going to really improve my life but the obsession with losing weight is definitely going to cause me unhappiness. Maintaining is my goal for now. 160-165 lbs is a fine range for me for now.

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Welcome back!

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Post by Kathleen » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:24 pm

Linda,
I am so glad to see that attitude! The teenage years go by so fast, and I think it is just critical that Mom is available and involved during those years. There is seven years' difference in age between our youngest and our oldest, and we have seen some dramatic differences: a transgender kid in every classroom, suicides in the junior high, vaping as acceptable among teens as speeding is among adults, etc. I don't want to scare you but do want to caution you. Your family is what is important.
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Post by nonoodles » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:28 pm

So glad to see you back. And weight REALLY is totally secondary to eating in a way which makes you feel good and happy and not obsessed. And that can continually change as do all things. Honestly, nobody really cares what someone else weighs. People may momentarily notice if someone gains a huge amount or loses a huge amount, but mostly people care about how they feel when they are with you. Whether they feel heard and understood and cared for and all those things that have absolutely nothing to do with what someone looks like.
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What a beautiful post, nonoodles.
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Thank you guys! So so true nono. I could care less about how much my friends weigh and doc is every bit as handsome to me as the day I met him.

Kathleen: yup a lot of vaping and drugs. My kids tell me all about it. It’s even in middle school here. Somehow they seem to miraculously be smart enough to stay away from all that (so far). I have no issues with transgender kids in their classrooms though. I’ve taught them to accept all ppl regardless of race, gender, size or sexual orientation. I’m super proud of them for doing so.

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Post by Kathleen » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:54 pm

Hi Linda,
This is off topic, but I did want to explain myself. It's "a transgender kid in every classroom" that concerns me. What changed in just a few years (seven) from when there were no transgender kids in my oldest child's high school to today when there is a transgender kid in every classroom? Thanks,
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Post by lpearlmom » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:57 pm

So I have friends that are transgender as well as friends that have transgender kids and it is not a “movement” or a choice. It’s definitely not something that kids are pressured into because of their hobbies. I think we are past the time when we think only certain genders can have certain interests and abilities. Transgender people are simply trapped in the wrong sex bodies and it’s a living hell.

Nobody would willing choose that for themselves or their children as it’s a very difficult and dangerous identity to have due to the fear ppl have about anyone whose different than them. I hope that ppl will educate themselves about what it actually means to be transgender and how brave these ppl are to even leave their houses each day.

I really respect you Kathleen as a dedicated mother and for the support you’ve shown to me and other people on this board but I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. This probably isn’t really the place for this anyway but if you’d like to discuss it further please feel free to private msg me. I think we should move on from it on here though. Thanks!
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Post by lpearlmom » Wed May 01, 2019 2:59 pm

Sorry for that tangent but it is an important often misunderstood issue.

Anyway.... I met with my eating counselor yesterday and it went better than expected. We kind of talked about everything and not just eating/weight things. She said it was a miracle I didn’t have a full blown eating disorder considering my history. She also talked about something I’ve never heard before where ppl freeze up during traumatic events and cannot move till the event is over. That is what happens to me and I still have that sensation when I’m stuck in the dentist chair. It also happened when I was getting my eyelashes done. You have to lie in this recliner for an hour with your eyes shut. I’m stressed the whole time and was surprised that other ppl fall asleep during the application. It all makes sense now.

She understands how problematic intuitive eating is for many of us and wants me to come up with my own plan based on what makes me feel best. I thought about how auto has found a way of eating that just really works for her and makes her feel fantastic. I think she’s hoping I will find something like that for myself.

So I’m not totally sure what I’m doing yet but I feel hopeful. I read Michelle Mays book a few years ago but didn’t realize my counselor had written it with her. She’s got tons of experience and credentials up the ying yang so I feel I’m in good hands. And I’m thrilled she’s not a size 2. 😊

For now I’m supposed to check in with myself several times a day to see how I’m feeling and write it in a journal. I’m really looking forward to our next session. So all and all a good experience.
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Great to hear the session went well!

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Post by lpearlmom » Thu May 02, 2019 4:57 am

Thanks Octavia!

Feeling a little under the weather today. Stressing about my weight too and then ended the day with the girls fighting. Ugh, just an off day I guess.

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Post by oolala53 » Thu May 02, 2019 6:57 pm

Did I miss the post I thought I put up about how envious I am of your body fat content? Not that you need any comments on body stuff. I just want to affirm that you have accomplished a lot. I'm pretty sure my body fat wasn't that low even when I was a teen (though not a slim one, at the high end of BMI.) You may have messed with some mental stuff but I think some of the changes have also been positive. You are making your way! There's only before and during, and during can involve a lot of continuing adjustments.

I'm not sure what to else say because I sense you are feeling rather vulnerable these says, with good reason. I may send you something separately.

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There's only before and during, and during can involve a lot of continuing adjustments.
I love this!!!
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Post by lpearlmom » Fri May 03, 2019 5:53 am

Thank you so much oolala. It really means a lot to me. I know the body fat definitely is encouraging. Not sure how it’s that low though because, although my arms and legs are pretty solid, my stomach is still pretty fleshy. But ill take it & I know I have made a lot of progress. I just need to chill out and enjoy where Im at. Being ultra thin is not the end all be all.

Ive been having to pay close attention to how im feeling throughout the day for my counselors assignment and its been interesting. First of all i cant believe how often i feel unwell and tired and how rarely i feel hungry. Secondly, i didnt realize how much happier I am around ppl. I always think of myself as such an introvert. My girls lift my spirits (when they’re not driving me crazy).

Tomorrow We’re taking sweetpea to Tucson for her bday for the weekend. It’s a surprise and it should be a lot of fun. With her difficult social situation this year she wasn’t really sure what she wanted to do for her bday (sweet 16) so we’re taking her to a resort this weekend and invited one of her best friends. Im giving her a painting of two dancers by my grandmother who was a successful artist. It used to hang in my room when i was a child and id stare at it for hours. She’s been asking for it for years now so I know she’ll be thrilled.

Oh Im listening to a great book on audible called Body Positive Power. Really helping with the body image stuff. Highly recommend it. 💜

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Secondly, i didnt realize how much happier I am around ppl. I always think of myself as such an introvert. My girls lift my spirits (when they’re not driving me crazy).
This sounds like a really important recognition point that will make a big difference going forward for you!
It used to hang in my room when i was a child and id stare at it for hours. She’s been asking for it for years now so I know she’ll be thrilled.
I love this!!! Where has the painting been until now....?
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What a lovely idea for a gift! I’m sure sweetpea will love it. Have a great time in Tucson!

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Post by lpearlmom » Mon May 06, 2019 5:04 am

Thanks auto! The painting is in our living room but ive got some else to replace it with.

Thx Octavia! 💜

We had an absolutely amazing weekend. I never realized how cool Tucson is. Maybe we can retire there one day. Everything was just perfect and sweetpea was so excited. It really made my heart full to see how happy she was. Also, the girls went off on their own quite a bit so doc and i got some nice bonding time which was a nice plus.


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Glad to hear it! Those years of having children at home are fleeting! I am keenly aware of that fact today because we will see our married daughter twice this month but last saw her at Thanksgiving.
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Thanks for wishing me well. I'm confident I'll feel a lot better tomorrow. I'm slightly enjoying having the excuse to loll.
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Linda - so awesome about the great trip to Tucson! And I know you mentioned you and doc bonding, but it made me think about how sweet it is that your girls enjoyed hanging out together!
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Kathleen: I know empty nest syndrome will hit me hard. My girls are my world right now.

Oolala: the best part about being sick is being able to lay on the couch all day guilt free. ☺️

Auto: the girls really are becoming more like friends each day. Sweetpea even gave Rosebud concert tickets for the two of them for her bday.

Yesterday was Rosebud’s bday and I made her favorite dinner for her (portobello mushroom burgers w kimchi. Today is my bday & was really nice but i ate way too much. I was overwhelmed by how many happy bday texts i got from ppl. 3 years ago i was always complaining about my lack of social life. My how things can change. Tomorrow is Tessa’s bday and I still haven’t gotten her a gift. (Our dog).

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Happy Birthday Linda! The Belle of the Ball. :-)

Holy Cow! So all three of you (plus 1 dog) have birthdays in the first couple weeks of May? That is astounding and must make for some wild times!

If you tell me Doc's birthday is next week I'll fall out of my chair.
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Post by lpearlmom » Thu May 09, 2019 4:00 pm

I know, it’s a crazy month. Tikkas (other dog) bday is 4/26, rosebud 5/6, mine 5/7, tessa 5/8 and sweetpea is 5/9. Then there’s Mother’s Day of course. Doc’s isn’t till 7/5 so we get a little break there but May is busy and expensive for sure. A lot of fun though!

Things are going well. The problem is if Im not focusing on weight loss, what do I do with all that time & mental energy. Im also struggling with being a but larger. But if im eating nutritious food and exercising regularly, how can my body size be wrong? Im realizing we’re not all meant to be a size 4 and thats really not a bad thing.

Im listening to Body Positive Power by Megan Jayne Crabbe and its amazing. Love her so much!

More later, time to workout!
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Post by oolala53 » Fri May 10, 2019 3:43 am

Well, the birthdays will be out of the way soon, too. Maybe that's better than having to face them more often throughout the year. And there are some spans where every other year where one of them falls on an S day anyway.

It can be shocking how little food it can take to sustain us.

I'm no scientist but I think most people can't expect to be smaller than they were at the end of high school IF they were pretty active and eating mostly nutritious foods mostly at meals. In other words, what they would have been if they had been raised in a slim culture. And it may be asking a lot to get back to that, if one left it; those cultures don't tend to gain a lot over the years, so there's no having to go into deficit to lose the extra. I weigh less than I did in high school, which I did not expect when I started and didn't come about until years and years in. I wasn't a slug, but I should have been more active and certainly should have done less snacking and a lot less sweet eating. But it's taken some doing getting here and it was not for the weight loss. I didn't expect it. It's tricky stuff. (I admit that now that I'm here, I am willing to be a little vigilant to stay here. I know it's in my best overall interest to eat to sustain it, at least so far.)
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lpearlmom wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 5:55 am
I was overwhelmed by how many happy bday texts i got from ppl. 3 years ago i was always complaining about my lack of social life. My how things can change.
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Post by lpearlmom » Fri May 10, 2019 3:09 pm

Thank you lady!! ☺️

Oolala: thanks for stopping by but little confused by your post. Are you telling me i should fight harder to stay in a smaller body or not to worry about not being at my hs weight or none of the above? Maybe you could clarify? Thx!
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Post by Dandelion » Fri May 10, 2019 9:27 pm

Can I stick my oar in on the HS weight thing? Oh, wait. I already have. I gained roughly 10 pounds right after high school. It was common then to call that the 'Freshman 10" . What they don't say is that women are not necessarily at their full adult body size/weight until they reach that age, so that last bit of weight may be biological and not lifestyle. In my case at least, I believe it was biology - I gained that weight in spite of living/eating at home, having two jobs, cheerleading and playing tennis. When I finally realized this was biology and gave up on the idea that I 'had' to reach HS weight, I found maintaining was effortless and I stayed within a few pounds of that weight (the equivalent of a size 5/6) well into my 40s.

Now that I've passed 60, I'm not interested going even that low anymore. In my family the thin die young, while those with a bit of a cushion go on and on. It's not a guarantee, but it the research I read seems to support it.
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Post by Dandelion » Fri May 10, 2019 9:35 pm

lpearlmom wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 5:55 am
Kathleen: I know empty nest syndrome will hit me hard. My girls are my world right now.
I'm butting in again - but this hit home for me. I don't even know how to put into words how hard this has been for me. I start to type something - and delete it. After 39 years I do not have a child at home. I still have days when I don't know what the point of me is.
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Post by lpearlmom » Sat May 11, 2019 6:12 am

Feel free to butt in Dandy! That makes a lot of sense about the post HS weight gain. So much of weight gain is part of our normal development. When we freak out about it and try to diet it away, thats when trouble starts. When i was 10, I got a little chubby and my parents put me on a diet which started a lifelong habit yo-yo dieting and self-loathimg. When my daughter turned 10 she got a little chubby. I didn’t say a word and two years later she was tall & lean. She’s never once said a negative word about her body.

In college i was about 10 lbs lighter than in HS but I was extremely unhealthy. Too much partying. Too much restricting. I don't even want to be my college or HS weight anymore. I just don't care about losing weight right now. Really I just want to get to the point where food and weight are just a non-issue for me. I used to think that would happen when I got to a certain weight but now I know better. It’s a mindset. I just want to get on with my life. Certainly there must be more interesting things to focus on.

PS Sorry about the empty nest syndrome Dandy. Maybe we should form a support group.
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Post by automatedeating » Sat May 11, 2019 2:16 pm

I like calling her Dandy. That is so cute. :-) And I appreciated her "butt-ins" too. :-)
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Post by Dandelion » Mon May 13, 2019 3:05 am

Well, thank you :) I just wish I felt 'dandy'.

between my three kids and the kids I taught each year for the last however many years, I always noticed that kids usually put the weight on before a growth spurt. Right now my teenager seems thin - but I also have to look up a bit more to look in his eyes :)

I want so badly to stop thinking of my weight all.the.time. I am freakin' 60 years old - which means this has been going on nearly half a century. What a lot of wasted life.
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Post by Octavia » Tue May 14, 2019 8:17 am

lpearlmom wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 6:12 am
I just don't care about losing weight right now. Really I just want to get to the point where food and weight are just a non-issue for me. I used to think that would happen when I got to a certain weight but now I know better. It’s a mindset. I just want to get on with my life. Certainly there must be more interesting things to focus on.
...this reminds me of an affirmation I’ve been using recently, to stop me worrying about things. Rather than saying ‘it’s fine, nothing to worry about...’ , I say ‘it’s not that interesting.’ I find this is more powerful. I’ve been wondering why I spend so much time engrossed in my problems...I write journals addictively and never quite feel settled enough to go out into the world and pursue positive interests...my dad always used to say ‘turn your thoughts outwards’, and I definitely need to follow his advice! like Dandy, I’m feeling that I’ve been wrapped up in negative issues like weight for too long.

Hope your day goes well, Linda. :)

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Post by clarinetgal » Mon May 27, 2019 5:54 pm

I’m just popping by to say hello!✋🏻 I hear you, about wanting to get to a point where I don’t think about food and weight all of the time.
Committing to a fresh start, with 3-4 plates and no snacking.

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Post by lpearlmom » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:11 pm

Thanks for stopping by Dandy, octavia and heather! Im hoping we can all find peace with our bodies and food.

I actually feel like im making progress but still have a lot of work to do. Im still seeing my dietician but not totally sure how i feel about her. I dont know if its just me being oversensitive or what but I feel some judgement from her about my food choices and amounts. What i really think is that she’s still struggling with this stuff personally. I do like her though and it’s nice to have someone to talk to. I also think it’s important i have someone who can balance out my tendency to extremism.

Im basically doing Intuitive Eating but it’s not a free for all nor is it about following strict rules of eating only when hungry and stopping only when full. There’s a lot of gray areas which are harder to navigate in the beginning but ultimately more satisfying in the end imo. My counselor pointed out that many ppl (me for sure) will rebel against any dietary rules no matter how reasonable. I think this is why nos ultimately did not work for me.

(Ack, gotta make kids breakfast. More later!)
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Post by Kathleen » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:40 pm

Glad to get an update! We learn from each other. I do suspect most counselors have had eating issues themselves just as the authors of Intuitive Eating — and NoS — have!
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Post by automatedeating » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:30 pm

LOL - I have a dear friend that is a dietician and even she often jokes about how black and white and OCD they tend to be. It's like perfectionists on steroids. So I wouldn't be surprised if you get that sort of vibe from a dietician, even though their perfectionism demands that they keep their judgements under sweet smiles.

Oh, dear. That didn't sound flattering, did it? But they are just humans like all of us, struggling as we all struggle. And so many shared struggles. My friend would do anything for me. Very loyal.
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Post by lpearlmom » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:20 pm

Hi Kathleen & auto!

No, its not unflattering it’s just the truth auto. My counselor used to have a binge disorder and, if you listen to Food Pysch podcast, they often talk about how it’s very common for ppl with food/body issues to be attracted to nutrition type careers. Hopefully they can work through them and help ppl even more with the firsthand knowledge but Im sure not all get there.

Anyway, we will see how it goes. Im listening to the IE book and it’s helping so much. I also ordered the workbook so that should help as well. Im learning to accept my body the way it is and havent weighed in a few weeks (freedom!) . Im pretty sure I gained a few pounds in the beginning but things have seemed to have plateaued so im okay with it. I really just never want to be at that obsessive level I was before. No thanks!

I also started biking again and that feels really good. I even have this fantasy of doing a century ride but we shall see. Doc and I did 19 miles yesterday—woot! Im going to need a new bike eventually as my mountain bike is just so dang heavy.

Girls are doing good. Rosebud graduated from 8th grade with a special award for getting straight As in all honors classes for 3 years in a row! She just got back from DC with a class trip and had a lot of fun. Sweetpea has decided to stay at her school after i took her to tour the local High school. Things also just have gotten a lot better at her current school and i think shell be just fine.

We have a busy summer planned with 2 weeks on the oregon coast and then the girls will go to camp in California for another 2 weeks. We’re also going to tuscon for a weekend and the girls will have their first weekend alone at home. 😱

Okay hope all is well with everyone. 💜
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Post by lpearlmom » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:14 pm

Omg, omg I suck at Intuitive eating. Back to NoS because that’s the only time I’ve felt sane with food. My Mods will be fruit okay between meals and no grazing on the weekends.

I can tell I’m gaining weight even though I’m not weighing. I don’t even care about losing weight but just want to stop the weight gain. I cannot go back to 210 lbs & I think I’m headed in that direction.

Why do I have to make everything so hard?? 🤦🏼‍♀️
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Post by Kathleen » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:35 pm

lpearlmom,
I feel for you. I tried IE and found that my stomach would growl around food! I felt like I was starving all the time even though my kids nicknamed that diet The Peanut Cluster Diet because I was eating lots of peanut clusters! NoS really is a mild form of IF since you fast between dinner and breakfast.
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Post by automatedeating » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:29 pm

Hi Linda! So so so lovely to see you on the boards!

It has been a weird spring for so many of us. I have been eating everything in my house that has any amount of sugar in it. Stop the insanity.... :roll:

Anyway, we are here. Breathing. And posting cute emojis. I'm reading this book about this little 6 year old girl that started adding in emojis when she talked, such as "Hope you're happy now, Smiley Face!" :lol:
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Post by Thisisnotabadidea- » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:44 am

Even though I'm much younger than you(Probably closer to your daughters, As I'm nearly 22) looking back over your thread I truly relate to what you're going through and have similar issues myself. Lately I've found myself rebelling against any food restrictions even sane ones like no s, intuitive eating kind of works as long as I don't go off the rails and "allow" myself to overeat everyday so I have to reign it in. I keep inexplicably gaining even when I'm eating decent which then causes me to say "f it!" :roll: I'm very tired of it all and just want to give up

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Post by Candace » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:22 pm

Just here to join the cheering section. Hello lperlmom! New to the boards. Mature female, so we may have some things in common, specifically that metabolism slowdown that happens as we age. I feel ya. Keep up the good work! We're here because we care about our health, right? If we didn't care, we wouldn't be here. Cheers to you.
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