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Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:40 am

Mon 15, Tues 16, Wed 17, Thurs 18, Fri 19 -success
Sat 20 - 3 meals + snack
Sun 21 - 3 meals
Mon 22 - failure, supper
Tues 23 failure - supper, and a bit of grazing in the afternoon in stead of a proper meal
Wed 24 failure- afternoon snack
Thurs 25 failure - I didn't make a note of it at the time what went wrong
Fri 26 - success
Sat 27 - 3 meals, supper
Sun - 3 meals, afternoon snack
Mon 29, Tues 30 - success
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Post by Amy3010 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:14 am

You are really on track - well done! :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:44 am

November has been a bit more difficult than usual, with a week of mostly failures which is unusual for me nowadays. My mood and energy have been down, and any attempt to eat lightly enough to lose any more weight has made things worse. However, I have maintained my weight to the extent of not going above the top of Octobers weight range which I am happy with. I did have one pleasant surprise - I tried on a pair of summer trousers I own which have been too tight for me to wear, and they are now a comfortable fit.

I have gone back to writing down my food for every meal, something which I abandoned as unnecessary a little while ago.
Nov weight - 137 - 139.
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Post by Soprano » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:45 am

Sorry to hear you have had a difficult month. Great news about the trousers. Sometimes I think our bodies change composition.

Consistency in eating will keep you on the right track.

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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:51 am

I agree, consistency is one of the key ingredients for success.
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Post by Amy3010 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:16 am

Despite having a tough month, you managed to maintain, which is huge, AND fit into smaller trousers - well done. If we can use our habits to keep ourselves on an even keel even in challenging periods, that is one of the most important things we can learn from No-S. Hope December is kinder to you!

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Post by ladybird30 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:11 am

Thanks for your encouragement Amy.
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Post by ladybird30 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:12 am

Wed 1 Dec - success
Thurs 2 Dec - failure - supper
Fri 3 - success
Sat 4 - 3 meals, supper
Sun 5 3 meals
Mon 6 - ?
Tues 7 - failure
Wed 8 failure - had 3 meals, but ate far too much
Thurs 9, Fri 10 - success
Sat 11 3 meals
Sun 12 - 2 meals plus far too much grazing
Mon 13, Tues 14 - success. After more failures, I am making a determined effort to eat larger meals earlier in the
day and trying to not even think about my weight. That means calorie counting - to make sure I eat enough, and
to give me incentive to plan ahead for meals. Also not weighing myself, as that is part of trying to lose weight.
The alternative seems to be at the moment out of control eating every time I undereat even a little, a sure recipe for
putting back on the weight I have slowly lost over the last year.

On the plus side, my mood and energy levels have recovered to where they should be. This morning I will be going for a walk and then getting on my electric bike to go food shopping.
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Post by pinkhippie » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:29 pm

Congratulations on the smaller trousers!

I definitely relate to your struggles this month! Do you think writing down all your food is helping? I have been having similar issues and I'm not sure what will get me out of the rut I seem to be stuck in. Or the weight gaining incline rather.

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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:47 am

Hi Pink - I stopped writing down my food - frankly, I just couldn't be bothered. And the calorie counting was just briefly, to give me an idea of how much I was eating. The main thing that is helping at the moment is having big enough meals and not trying to lose weight. This means more forward planning and cooking ahead, making sure that I go shopping and having food already prepared when hunger strikes so that I have a proper meal. The grazing urge seems to have abated at the moment. I've have been doing lots of walking which makes me hungrier, but really helps my mood.

Wed 15 failure, supper as hungry
Thurs 16, Fri 17 - success
Sat 18 - 3 meals + supper
Sun 19 - 3 meals + afternoon snack
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Post by Amy3010 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:53 am

You have struggled this month but it sounds like you are working to get your body to trust that it isn't going to be underfed anymore, so that it doesn't send you those binge urges. This makes so much sense! Hang in there!

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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:24 pm

Thanks Amy.
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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:36 pm

Mon 20 - Tues 21 - failures, afternoon snack
Wed 22 - success
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Post by pinkhippie » Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:30 pm

Oh, I see. Thanks for answering! I have never been able to keep up with writing down my food either. yes having big enough meals is so crucial for me! But having them not be too big is also crucial! It's such a tricky balance.

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Post by oolala53 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:44 pm

I suspect it's a tricky balance if we are trying to aim for weight instead of habits and especially for a weight that might be low for our present set point. (I know I am repeating myself.) I have noticed that every time I somehow lose a few pounds, usually by a happenstance of unintended lower eating, an old tape kicks in and I start thinking, huh, if I'm here and it wasn't that hard, maybe I COULD get lower. It just seems that as soon as I think about it, the survival mechanism gets scared. Later eating more suddenly sounds like a very reasonable idea, while also thinking that I can still lose more. But I can't prove that that desire wouldn't materialize just from the lost weight without the thoughts because they just seem to come along with it. Man, this conditioning is STRONG in me. I have tried to wish it away for years, and even went a few years weighing only for a week at a time four times a year. Years before, I even went without owning a scale for a few years. But I just bought one that measures body fat and muscle. I think working on muscle is the real fine tuning I need now. I've been in denial for a long time!

In any case, you are so far ahead of the game in many ways! And thanks for continuing to share.
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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:00 pm

Thanks Oolala.
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Post by pinkhippie » Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:11 pm

oolala53 wrote:
Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:44 pm
I suspect it's a tricky balance if we are trying to aim for weight instead of habits and especially for a weight that might be low for our present set point. (I know I am repeating myself.) I have noticed that every time I somehow lose a few pounds, usually by a happenstance of unintended lower eating, an old tape kicks in and I start thinking, huh, if I'm here and it wasn't that hard, maybe I COULD get lower. It just seems that as soon as I think about it, the survival mechanism gets scared. Later eating more suddenly sounds like a very reasonable idea, while also thinking that I can still lose more. But I can't prove that that desire wouldn't materialize just from the lost weight without the thoughts because they just seem to come along with it. Man, this conditioning is STRONG in me. I have tried to wish it away for years, and even went a few years weighing only for a week at a time four times a year. Years before, I even went without owning a scale for a few years. But I just bought one that measures body fat and muscle. I think working on muscle is the real fine tuning I need now. I've been in denial for a long time!

In any case, you are so far ahead of the game in many ways! And thanks for continuing to share.
Oolal I was actually having these very thoughts today. I realize I am always in my head aiming for a lower weight vs stronger habits. I listened to an interview with Reinhard yesterday and it really reminded me of how important it is to aim for habits as progress, not weight. Anyway, not sure if it applies to you too Ladybird but I thought this was a good insight.

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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:16 pm

Thanks Pink - I think you may well be right. Obviously my thinking still needs some work. Certainly my habits do.
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Post by ladybird30 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:47 pm

Thurs 23 success
Fri 24 - success, although dinner was far too large
Sat 25 - grazing after xmas dinner, not a good idea for my body even if it is the biggest S day of the year
Sun 26 big meals
Mon 27 failure- grazing again
Tues 28 - Fri 31- success, easier because my appetite was noticeably down after the excess food over Xmas.

December summary - not a good month, but I still haven't abandoned the basic framework of 3 meals. That is just part of me now. As far as my weight goes, I weighed in a couple of times at 139. Avoided the scales after the excess grazing because I am still agonizing over the regain of a lb or 2. Definitely need a sense of proportion here.

Jan 1 - in the middle of a heat wave, so went for a walk about 6:30 am for an hour.
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Post by Amy3010 » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:44 am

It sounds like the framework is ingrained, and that in itself is huge, regardless of whether the scale fluctuates. Smart of you to avoid it for the time being if it makes you agonize. Hang in there!

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:00 am

Thanks Amy.

Sat 1 Jan, Sun 2 - 3 meals
Mon 3 Jan, Tues 4, Wed 5, Thurs 6, Fri 7 - success
Sat 3 meals
Sun 3 meals + supper

After a week of not eating between meals, I feel like I am getting back on track, and got out the scales to weigh myself for a baseline. Up to 142, which is not unexpected. I then put the scales away again.

Even after all this time, eating moderately is still a struggle for me at times. A year ago I decided to do whatever it takes to avoid health related weight issues, as far too much of my excess weight is around my middle. The result for the year was positive on the whole.

For Jan I will be concentrating on the following habits:

3 meals a day. To help me do this, I will be planning ahead better so that I always have suitable meals available. Specifically, this means planning my weekly food shopping ahead of time as a first step.
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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:09 pm

Mon 10, Tues 11, Wed 12, Thurs 13, Fri 14 - success
Sat, Sun 3 meals
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Post by Amy3010 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:14 am

Good start to the year! :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:39 am

Mon 17 success
Tues 18 - fail, midnight snack as too hungry to sleep - second day of eating a bit more lightly was one day too many.
Wed 19, Thurs 20, Fri 21 - success, ate more at meal times.
Sat 22, Sun 23 3 meals
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Post by oolala53 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:29 am

If you can do weekly shopping, my hat is off to you. I have depended on frequent shopping for this and that. I do tend to have the makings of good meals around- actually, I could live off what I have, besides coffee creamer and fresh freggies, for a few weeks at least. I am okay with frozen leftovers. But the habit means I spend too much time on shopping. It's almost like a kind of snacking without eating. Hmm...

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Post by ladybird30 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:13 pm

Thanks Oolala!

Covid has changed my shopping habits, especially as we are now in the 'let it rip' phase. Finally getting supermarket shop delivered, rest from weekly farmers market plus home garden. Getting my 3rd shot tomorrow, which is a relief.

My eating has actually settled down again for the moment. Apparently my brain thinks I am now at the right weight for me.
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Post by Amy3010 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:48 am

Great you are getting your third shot - what a relief! Fingers crossed you don't have too much discomfort afterwards.

Covid changed my shopping and cooking habits, too - I used to be much more of a menu planner and shopped more frequently, and now I improvise a lot more with what I have in the house, and shop less often.

Hooray for your eating settling down and your brain cooperating with you! :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:45 pm

Mon 24, Tues 25, Wed 26, Thurs 27, Fri 28 success
Sat 29 3 meals, 1 snack
sun 30 3 meals, but too much
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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:23 pm

Mon 31 Jan - success

Jan summary - compliance mostly good, weight sitting around 142 - 143, so no weight loss.

Tues 1 Feb - Thurs 3, Fri 4 Feb success
Sat 5, sun 6 3 meals
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Post by ladybird30 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:13 am

Mon 7 - thurs 10, Fri 11 success
Sat & Sun 3 meals
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Post by Amy3010 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:01 am

Looks like things are going well for you! :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:12 pm

Thanks Amy, yes I am back in the groove and have lost my Xmas bloat.

Mon 14 , Tues 15, Wed 16, Thurs 17, Fri 18 - success
Sat 3 meals, tho not quite enough
Sun 3 meals
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Post by pinkhippie » Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:10 pm

Such a good feeling to get back in the groove and losing Christmas bloat! I am slowly getting there as well. :)

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:40 am

Mon 21, Tues 22, Wed 23, Thurs 24, Fri 25 success
Sat, sun 3 meals
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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:34 pm

Mon 28, success

February was a successful month, weight range 140 - 142

Tues 1 March, Wed 2, Thurs 3, Fri 4 success
Sat 5, sun 6th, 3 meals
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Post by oolala53 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:37 am

Terrific! Have delightful and peaceful eating in Marc.
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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:13 am

Thanks Oolala.

Mon 7th, Tues 8th, Wed 9, thurs 10, Fr 11 - success
Sat 12 3 meals
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Post by Amy3010 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:18 am

Rowing along nice and steady! Good going! :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:16 pm

Thanks Amy.
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Post by pinkhippie » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:01 pm

Congratulations on a successful February!

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Post by Soprano » Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:16 am

Great to hear you are back in the groove:)

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:33 pm

Mon 14, Tues 15, Wed 16, Thurs 17, Fri 18 - success
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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:27 pm

Mon 21 - Fri 25 success
Sat 26, Sun 27 3 meals
Mon 28 - Wed 30, Thurs 31 success
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Post by ladybird30 » Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:19 pm

Another successful month with the eating in March.

Weight range 139 - 142 lbs.

Fri 1 April - success
Sat 2, Sun 3 3 meals.
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Post by Soprano » Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:57 pm

Well done :D
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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:00 pm

Thanks Soprano. To tell the truth, I am not sure what has made it easier to stick to 3 meals a day. Perhaps just practice, practice, practice.

Mon 4 - Fri 8 -success
Sat 9, Sun 10 3 meals
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Post by Soprano » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:01 pm

Having the habit ingrained does make it easier, especially if you make your mind up to get back on it.

My habits have slipped of late but I decided yesterday to get back in the groove and didn't have any problem doing so.

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:33 pm

Mon 11, Tues 12, Wed 13, Thurs 14, Fri 15 - success
Sat 16 1 meal and 3 snacks so far - was out during lunchtime, hence lunch divided up. Too little as well, hence a snack when I got home. Broke my almost perfect 3 meal a day run - but dealing with so-called imperfection is part of moderate eating. And a bit of leeway is what S days are for.

Thurs 14 -
Have been hungrier than usual the last few days, so having bigger meals. Takes a little while to catch up and reduce my hunger to manageable levels once I start getting over hungry. I realise this is not a problem for some people, but I have always been like that - getting very hungry if I reduce my food intake below what I usually eat. However, I have managed to keep to the 3 meal a day pattern, an important thing for me to do to keep my eating and therefore my weight under control.

Some people have had success in managing hunger by going low carb, but that is not for me. I start feeling loopy and spaced out and then weepy if I don't eat enough carbs. I prefer to reduce my fat intake to reduce calorie intake, although I still eat enough fat with each meal to keep me going to the next one. Not enough fat and I get really hungry.

What I do do is avoid processed food, also known as industrial food products, junk food or ultra processed food. That is food that is specifically designed to get me to eat as much as I can of it, while at the same time providing lower amounts of the nutrients and phytochemicals we need. I am quite unequal to the battle when it comes to that sort of food, so I avoid temptation by not buying it in the first place.

I really enjoy my meals - I think that is a very important factor in maintaining any sort of diet. I have a basic diet of home cooked food made from single fresh/dried/frozen/canned ingredients plus vegetables, fruit and herbs from my own garden. I allow myself whatever I feel like eating at the time from within these guidelines. So it might be a meal of cold meat and salad, or a hot meal of rice, lentils and vegetables. I eat a lot of olive oil, which my state produces in abundance.

Occasionally when I am out socialising I might eat something that is not part of this basic diet, but that is not a regular event. When I do, I enjoy it. I don't eat for the sake of it on social occasions, but choose food that is worth it. I should add that I do have food restrictions for health reasons, so that puts another brake on social eating as well as a reason for eating home cooked food.
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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:45 pm

Something else I wanted to say - I don't worry too much about the no seconds part of No S. If I start being strict about no seconds, I just end up getting too hungry between meals and having snacks instead. So I allow my self careful amounts of seconds if needed to feel satisfied, but keep aware of how full I am getting. Earlier this year when I was food logging, I drew a line on the page after I had finished writing down my food and I had decided I had enough. Only a psychological barrier, but quite effective.

As one of the reasons for my excess weight was eating a meal and then continuing to graze afterwards, it was certainly necessary to find some way of bringing a definite end to a meal.
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Post by pinkhippie » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:07 pm

Sounds like you eat very healthily for you! I am still working on the no processed foods thing. I am the same way when it comes to low carb, but I also need a good amount of fat to feel satiated. I also can't let myself get too hungry or I will have rebound hunger in a major way.

I like your adjustment for seconds. I still sometimes struggle with the no seconds part of No S. Its a tricky balance of eating too much at one meal or not enough and then needing a snack. Sounds like you have found a good way to handle it.

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Post by lpearlmom » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:40 am

i feel like i eat v similarly to you lady but i don’t eat much meat. i really love veggies and fruit and whole grains but i just eat too much of it i guess. i also have my weaknesses—wine, chai, cat cookies!

sounds like you’re doing well though. i love that you allow 2nds if needed. i think that would really help me stick to nos because i feel a little panicky about the 1 plate rule. seems so final?
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Post by ladybird30 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:39 am

I'm all in favour of what ever makes life easier.
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Post by Soprano » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:30 pm

I think once you are well established on no s you can tweak the rules to make it doable for you long term.

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Post by ladybird30 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:47 pm

Sun 17 3 meals
Mon 18 - Fri 22 success
Sat 23, Sun 24 3 meals
Mon 25- Wed 27 success

I have been having rather bigger meals these last few days than usual. After all this time I still find my anxiety about how much I am eating rising when I do this. I remind myself that a few bigger meals won't lead to my putting back on lots of weight and that the best thing I can do is relax and trust that my eating will soon settle back to normal.

Thurs 28, Fri 29 success
Sat 30 3 meals
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Post by ladybird30 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:13 pm

April was another successful month as far as eating 3 meals a day goes, one day with a snack which was ok.

Weight range 138 - 140 lbs, gradually drifting down.

Sun May 1 3 meals
Mon 2, Tues 3, Wed 4, Thurs 5, Fri 6 success
Sat 7, Sun 8. 3 meals
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Post by Amy3010 » Wed May 04, 2022 4:47 am

Sounds like things are going well! :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue May 10, 2022 9:17 pm

Mon 9, Tues 10 , Wed 11, Thurs 12, Fri 13
success

Sat 14, Sun 15 3 meals
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Post by kyl77 » Fri May 13, 2022 6:52 pm

I'm new and want to post for last week.

Sun May 1st: S Day

Monday: Success,Tuesday: Success, Wednesday: Success, Thursday: Success, Friday: Success

Saturday May 7th: S day

So far I'm doing well for this week too. I just need to get through today and I'm home free for the weekend! Hooray! :D

Peace Out!

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Post by ladybird30 » Fri May 13, 2022 8:40 pm

Keep up the good work KY
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Post by Amy3010 » Sun May 15, 2022 6:26 am

Well done both of you! Nice string of green days! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue May 17, 2022 8:24 am

Mon 16, success
Tues 17 success- misjudged how much I needed to eat for dinner in spite of having seconds so went to bed a little hungry which I don't enjoy. Not good for sleep quality either. Outdoor exercise in colder weather has increased my energy needs.
Wed18 - today I will make sure I eat enough. I had been thinking about having another go at the seconds rule, but this is not the time. (My definition of success is that I have had three meals with no snacks, grazing, pre or post meal nibbles. I allow seconds if I feel like a meal wasn't enough, although I rarely allow seconds for the first meal of the day.) Success- 3 good meals, didn't go to bed hungry .
Thurs 19 Fri 20 success
Sat 21 3 substantial meals
Sun 22 3 meals
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Post by kyl77 » Tue May 17, 2022 10:36 am

Checking in for the week of May 8th

Sunday May 8th: S Day

Monday: Success, Tuesday: Success, Wednesday, Success, Thursday: Success, Friday: Success

Saturday May 14th: S Day

So far things are going well for this week. Wish me well.

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Post by kyl77 » Mon May 23, 2022 12:59 am

Checking in for the Week of May 15th

Sunday May 15th: S Day

Monday: Success, Tuesday: Success, Wednesday: Success, Thursday: Success, Friday: Success

Saturday May 21st: S Day

Saturday wasn't an ideal S Day. If you could fail an S Day, I would have failed Saturday. I'm still hanging in there. I can't expect everything to be perfect all the time. Today (Sunday 22nd) was easier. I now know I need to eat a bigger breakfast and lunch. It just takes some experimenting. I hope everything is going well for everyone else.

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Post by ladybird30 » Mon May 23, 2022 7:08 am

Hi Kyl- glad to see that you are going well so far. No failures on S days.

Have you thought about starting your own thread ? It might make it easier for you if your journal wasn't mixed up with mine .
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Post by ladybird30 » Tue May 24, 2022 7:53 am

Mon 23 Tues 24 success
Wed 25 overtired and hungry during afternoon, but managed to distract myself enough to wait for dinner. Success
Thurs 26 Fri 27 success
Sat 28 3 meals, found myself tempted to do some grazing instead of finishing lunch. Probably because I was feeling a bit under the weather. I reminded myself that that way lies madness and resisted. Much easier to resist nowadays after so much practice.
Sun 29 3 meals
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Post by kyl77 » Tue May 24, 2022 11:26 pm

Oh, Okay.

I thought this was where people were suppose to post.

My Bad! LOL!

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Post by ladybird30 » Thu May 26, 2022 8:11 am

That's alright, no biggie.
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Post by Amy3010 » Sun May 29, 2022 5:52 am

It sounds like the last week of May has gone well for you, although I am sorry to hear you've been feeling under the weather - hopefully nothing serious! You are right, though, with practice it does get easier to resist the urge to graze. Enjoy your Sunday and good luck with next week! :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Sun May 29, 2022 8:43 pm

Thanks Amy
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Post by ladybird30 » Mon May 30, 2022 9:19 pm

Mon 30, Tues 31 success

Weight range for May 137 - 140 lbs, down a little more after another month of no snacks.

Wed 1, Thurs 2 Fri 3 success
Sat 4, Sun 5 3 meals
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Post by kyl77 » Sun Jun 05, 2022 12:10 pm

I'm amazed that you can avoid snaking on the weekends too! You're doing great. Keep it up!

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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:51 am

Lots of practice, and I find it easier to stick to 3 meals a day nowadays.
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Post by Amy3010 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:26 am

Lots of practice really leads to those habits becoming so ingrained, well done! :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:47 pm

Mon 6, Tues 7 success

It's a good thing that my definition of success is fairly loose ( 3 meals a day with no grazing)
because I have had a few meals lately where I have realised after that I had eaten too much.

As long as I stick to the 3 meals tho I feel ok about my eating. Such things always settle down by themselves as long as I don't invest too much emotion in them or start trying to compensate for overages by restricting.

Wed 8 Thurs 9, Fri 10 success

Sat11 Sun 12 3 meals
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Post by ladybird30 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:32 am

There are 3 things I do to help me be a successful NoSer

Practice eating 3 satisfying meals a day consistently

Keep tempting food out of the house

This has been a work in progress over the last few
years as I gradually removed the last few foods I was
having trouble with. This doesn't mean that I won't eat
particular foods ever again, just that they don't come
home with me.

It is quite possible that I will break this rule at some
stage. However, ultra processed foods are no longer
part of my life.

Consistent exercise, more for my mood than burning calories
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Post by Amy3010 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 6:02 am

I love this! Focusing on the habits and letting the rest take care of itself, while you get on with your life. It must feel amazing to have a sense of freedom and control with your eating habits.

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Post by ladybird30 » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:13 am

It's been good for how I feel about myself.

I regard myself as being in remission from bingeing and compulsive overeating rather than cured. And the price, which I am willing to pay, is to continue with those practices that help me
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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:37 pm

Mon 13, Tues 14, Wed15 Thurs 16 success
Fri 17 failure - had my mind on other things for a couple of days and forgot about planning my food ahead.

As a result, ended up having a snack before a rather delayed lunch.

Success depends on continued self monitoring. Yesterday (Tues) I broke my usual practice of dishing out just what I intended to eat. Was sitting with my mind on a screen and mindlessly popping a bite into my mouth when I realised that this is just what I used to do . That brought a quick end to my meal .

Sat 18, Sun 19 3 meals
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Post by Skelton » Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:04 pm

ladybird30 wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:13 am
It's been good for how I feel about myself.

I regard myself as being in remission from bingeing and compulsive overeating rather than cured. And the price, which I am willing to pay, is to continue with those practices that help me
I love this post ladybird. I've enjoyed reading your thread, following your journey. It sounds as if you're now in a great place. Very inspirational!
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Post by Soprano » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:55 am

I agree and find myself in a similar place. I was quite stressed last week and had a stirring of the old feelings. I gave in a little to them but not with the usual high carb high sugar foods and they passed uneventfully.

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:31 pm

Thx Skelton.
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Post by kyl77 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:03 pm

I agree with Skeleton. You are an inspiration. I now know, I need to focus on days on habit and not on the end result to get where I want to be. Your the best Ladybird. I always feel better after reading one of your posts. Thank You for being you.

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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:15 am

Thanks for your kind words KYI
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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:36 pm

Mon 20 Tues 21 Wed 22 Thurs 23 Fri 24 success
Sat 25 3 meals
Sun 26 3 meals, supper
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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:28 pm

Mon 27 Tues 28 , Wed 29, Thurs 30 success
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Post by oolala53 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:41 am

Glad to see that the beat goes on. I, too, rarely eat ultraprocessed foods. They just don't have enough of a payoff anymore. I don't have the appetite I once did and feel I need to be more selective. I wonder what life would have been like if that had happened decades ago? It was all out of fear back then. Oy!
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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:41 pm

Another reasonably good NoS month.

Weight down a little more, range 136 - 139 lbs.

My weight is back to where it was in October 2021. I reviewed my thread to see if I could determine what happened to derail my eating and avoid repeating the same mistakes.

The first change was that I started getting hungrier, enough to lead to unplanned snacks. My mood and energy levels went down, accompanied by snacks, grazing and some poor food choices.

By December, my mood and energy levels had recovered.

My interpretation is that I had actually gone a bit below what my brain saw as its preferred weight, hence the increased hunger and decreased energy.

What I plan to do if this happens again is to avoid anything that feels like undereating until my appetite and energy levels are back to normal. That means deliberately eating bigger meals and not waiting too long to eat.

This is of course the opposite of what I used to do, which was try to restrict further in a futile and counterproductive effort to control my eating. Hooray for the NoS framework.
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Post by oolala53 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:31 pm

I think you are so wise. I think a lot of failure out there is because people challenge their set point unnecessarily. There are some cases where it is justified, but even then, it's sure can be a tug of war.

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Post by ladybird30 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:41 pm

Thanks Oolala. I am not sure about the wisdom part, although I like to think that I've learned something about how to live a happier life. But I am fairly analytical.

As for the setpoint thing, I am hopeful that I have managed to lower mine by a few pounds, but time will tell.
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Post by Amy3010 » Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:25 am

Nice! :mrgreen: I love how you look back to figure out what was going on at certain points in your journey, and I agree that the body sometimes has to get used to a certain weight range before it will let you move further, this has been my experience as well.

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Post by pinkhippie » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:10 pm

This happens to me too with the lower weight and increased hunger. I totally agree with your strategy to avoid anything that feels like undereating. It's hard sometimes isn't it after years of dieting? Thank goodness for the No S framework! It helps so much! Sounds like you are doing well!

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Post by ladybird30 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:44 pm

Fri. Jul 1 success
Sat 2, Sun 3 3 meals

Mon 4 Tues 5 , W,Th,Fri 8 success
Sat 9 3 meals
sun 10 3 meals
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Post by Amy3010 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:44 am

Good going! :mrgreen:

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Post by ladybird30 » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:05 am

Thx Amy
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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:24 am

Mon 11 - success sort of - didn't eat enough dinner & was hungry during the night, & very hungry when I woke up. Trying to eat more today. While I am better nowadays at judging how much I need to eat thanks to eating 3 meals and no grazing or snacking, I still get it wrong sometimes.
Tues 12, Wed13, Thurs14 , Fri 15 success
Sat 16 , Sun 17 3 meals
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Post by Amy3010 » Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:10 am

Doing this is definitely more of an art than a science, isn't it? And learning to make adjustments along the way, as well as listening to what the body is telling us, is a big part of it.

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:32 pm

Mon 18, Tues 19 success sort of- again got my dinner size wrong, leading to getting uncomfortably hungry. This is not good, if for no other reason than that my aim is to establish sensible moderate eating habits, not starve myself into weight loss.
Wed success - had a couple of deliberately larger meals until I had lost that tired, strained, undereating feeling. It only takes a meal or two before I get that feeling, one of the reasons I am a slow loser. Obviously fasting is not for me, it just makes me feel too unwell.
Thurs - back to normal, a morning walk with a walking group and home to a late breakfast.
Failure- after dinner snack
Fri success.
Sat 3 and Sun 3 meals
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Post by ladybird30 » Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:18 pm

Mon success. Was briefly tempted to have seconds after breakfast. I don't usually have seconds then, and this time it felt like the start of the slippery slope into overeating, which leads to grazing and then becomes outright bingeing. So I put the thoughts of seconds aside and declared my meal over.
Tues, Wed , Thurs Fri success
Sat 3 meals
Sun 3 meals
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Post by Amy3010 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:26 am

Well done avoiding the slippery slope. Especially at the beginning of the day!

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Post by ladybird30 » Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:33 pm

JuLy - weight down a bit more, 133 - 136 lbs
Being more consistent with no snacks saw my weight drop to its lowest since starting NoS, although it didn't stay there.

August
mon 1, Tues 2, Wed 3, Thurs 4, Fri 5 success
sat, sun 3 meals
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