The Daily Dandelion

Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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Post by Grammy G » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:22 pm

Oh Dande..You and I are having the same thoughts! I too have been trying to cut back on getting involved with the noS bulletin boards. Do you think that is a sign we no longer need the constant reinforcement and encouragement and are really getting the the habit of it all?? I also have been finding myself not thinking about food so much. I love that!
I am plating what I really want and not what I think I "should"be eating. Because of this, I am eating less and enjoying it more!!
My 4 o'clock "treat" is a coffee topped with skim milk that I whisk into a froth and top with a sprinkle of cinnamon. I usually drink black coffee so this seems like something very special to me.
Thank you for looking in on me and, yes, I am enjoying my skinny fingers and toes (just painted my toe nails with a purple chrome polish)..and neck! Now if other parts of me would just join this club!! Many people told me they liked my new haircut the last two weeks...it is the same old cut..I'm thinkin' it may be that my face is a bit thinner..(how do you measure your face???)
Whatever the measurements, I agree with you.. this eating plan is sooo sensible and comfortable and something I can (and will!!) do the rest of my life!! I am a happy eater! ...and I don't think I could have said that before I gave noS a try!
Good for us :D :D
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Post by Dandelion » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:43 pm

Totally agree Grammy!

I hope all who celebrate Thanksgiving had a great one. I was amazed at how easy it was not to overeat. And today i'm happily back to an N day :)

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Post by frugaltexan » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:01 am

It really wasn't hard to not overeat. It was nice to indulge in a few extras - things you may only eat once or twice a year .. but still feel fairly comfortable afterwards.
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Post by Dandelion » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:55 am

That was how I felt, too. I ended up telling some of my family about it, and what they commented on was not that I'd lost weight, but how obvious it was that I was enjoying it so much :)

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Post by kccc » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:53 pm

Dandelion wrote:That was how I felt, too. I ended up telling some of my family about it, and what they commented on was not that I'd lost weight, but how obvious it was that I was enjoying it so much :)
That's wonderful! :) I do think that's the biggest benefit of No-S - -permission to actually enjoy food again. I spent so many years maintaining my weight through an armed truce with food that it's amazing to me to re-learn enjoyment. I'm always so happy to see others who make that same breakthrough.

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Post by Grammy G » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:41 am

Maybe the planets are in a special breakthrough -for-eating pattern right now because I also am feeling that joy of eating that I didn't even realize i was missing! And..and this is a big a"and" for me...I am not turning to food when I am not hungry!! By jove, I think we are getting it!! :D
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Post by Starla » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:19 am

It's very cool to read the Thanksgiving posts in this thread. It struck me so strongly - this is a "diet" board - and everyone's happy, not because you managed to deny yourselves through the holiday weekend, but because you enjoyed the bounty of the holiday. Wonderful, everyone!

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Post by hilly6000 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:31 pm

This is the most sensible plan I've ever read about (no-s), which is why I still am trying to stick to it in a way that makes me comfortable (my version). I wasn't on it on Thanksgiving, but I will be for Christmas... I'm not scared of holidays like I used to be... now I know that I can deal with them... and happily. Glad you are feeling good!
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Post by Dandelion » Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:35 pm

It's so amazing how much easier this gets over time. Habit really does do all the work.

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Post by Dandelion » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:30 pm

I've had a red day or two this week, but I haven't been feeling well. Rotten germs. I'm sick and tired and looking forward to time off.

At least the weather is better. The sun is out and the temps are back in the double digits above zero...rather than double digits below :)

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Post by Starla » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:57 pm

Hey, Dandelion, I'm glad to see you're back, and I hope you're feeling better soon. Sick days ARE S days though, so I hope you're not counting them as failures.

Take care of yourself!

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Post by frugaltexan » Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:01 am

Hi Dandelion,

Hope you're feeling better soon!
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Post by buttercreampillow » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:32 am

Hi Dande!

Good to see you hanging in here!

Sorry to see you've been sick--hope you're feeling better!

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Post by Dandelion » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:41 am

Hi buttercream - glad to see you here. I haven't been around much. Too busy with other things. If I was keeping track, there would be quite a few red days this last week or so. I feel like at this point in the year, I'm doing well to have any green days at all.

Monday is back to real life - and making the days green again.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

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Post by Dandelion » Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:40 pm

I've started something new - haven't decided whether to start an entirely new thread for it.

I'm doing a 90 day challenge, now through March 27th. Ninety days of green N days and not being an idiot on S days which will take me up to March 27th.

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Post by hilly6000 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:08 pm

Hey! Have hope because as long as you get back on the wagon, it will all be fine and a few red days won't undo everything you've done. Besides, your health is the main focus and... just start a new thread if you need to! I was thinking about the same thing, but more like a fresh slate. I'm not sure.

By the way, I liked the Red Dwarf you sent me on my thread! I'm thinking about putting them on my mp3 player because I just got an exercise bike.

-=hugs=- get better and move on from it!
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Post by Starla » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:39 pm

Happy New Year, Dandelion! I hope your new challenge is going well.

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Post by Dandelion » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:10 pm

Happy New year to you as well :)

My new challenge isn't very challenging so far - although in a way, it is more challenging, come to think of it.

I got unexpected company the other day - family I see maybe once a year or so. I declared the days when they were here as S days - now it's New Year's Day - then the weekend. So I'm just doing the 'not being an idiot' thing. :)

How are you doing?

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Post by Grammy G » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:52 pm

Hi Dande! Haven't been posting in a looong time but have been following you and your progress. It seems we are usually on the same page! I too had family here (I am in sunnyland for the winter) for the holidays.. a houseful in fact! ..and I too decided the best I thing I could do was to enjoy their company and "don't be an idiot" abut eating and just "fagetaboutit" until the left. I think that worked for me! I really enjoyed the visit..didn't stress about what I was eating..or what they were eating for that matter...just did it as though food weren't an issue..and it wasn't! :lol:
I am about to hit the 100 day mark..you are too, right? i am not getting on a scale until Monday and i will also get out the tape measure for the first time in quite awhile. I think we have both come a long way in the attitude department..and i think that is more than half the battle! :D
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Post by Dandelion » Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:30 pm

Good to see you! I feel pretty good about how everything has been going. It feels like food is a total non-issue and NoS is just part of normal everyday life for me. Whatever happens, happens and it will all work out.

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Post by Dandelion » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:33 am

I'm so glad it's an S day and the worst I can do is be an idiot.

But, darn, that was good cake :)

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Post by Dandelion » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:11 pm

I just love it when someone comes up to me and says 'you're losing so much weight - you look great!'

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Post by frugaltexan » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:19 am

That is an awesome thing to hear. :)
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Post by Starla » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:13 pm

Dandelion wrote:I just love it when someone comes up to me and says 'you're losing so much weight - you look great!'
Wow! That's wonderful! I'm still hoping to hear that someday, but I'm very happy you've already heard it!

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Post by Dandelion » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:25 am

Thanks :). It was great for my mood - and my motivation.

And it's Thursday - one more N day til the weekend :)

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Post by Grammy G » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:31 am

Hang on to that good thought! I'm sure you are feeling great too!!
Don't you just love the freedom of noS?!? I think the fact that I am the one making the decisions about food choices and exercise choices has made me realize that I can take charge and make reasonable decisions without having to pay anyone a weekly fee or have someone weigh me in or dole out my food for the week. I can handle that...and so can you!! :lol: good for us!!
We are losing weight and gaining confidence...that's got to look good!

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Post by Dandelion » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:50 pm

how true :)

Today was a close one. I very nearly said ' oh, what the heck. I'll take the red day'

but I did not. I'm so glad now I didn't. I hope I remember that next time I'm tempted to wuss out and take a red day.

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Post by Dandelion » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:27 am

Today was such a good day. We slept late, had breakfast, messed about the house a bit, then went to the movie. We saw Avatar at the IMAX - which was very cool. We didn't have lunch til 3 and didn't even miss it. After all our below zero weather during the week, it was beautifully sunny, and warm enough to eat outside.

On the way home, we picked up some chocolate croissants for tea (I'd promised my son yesterday we'd have them today) and some pate. After the croissants, we weren't all that hungry for dinner, so we just had pate on toast and I had a kiwi and kombucha. then watched another movie :)

Tomorrow is supposed to be another nice day. I"m thinking of something on the grill for dinner :)

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Post by Dandelion » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:32 pm

The weather is still gorgeous. Cloudless blue skies and nearly 60 degrees. Went for a walk today.

I am hanging in, but it's not as easy as it was in the beginning. I'm not sure why. Haven't lost weight in about a month. During December that was fine, since it was...well..December. Wish it would get going again. I'd like to lose a few more before vacation.

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Post by Dandelion » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:50 am

So far, no red days, and I've started to lose again even though I'm using a looser interpretation of NoS. Not really a mod - but just not quite as strict as I used to be.

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Post by Starla » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:33 pm

Way to stick with it, Dandelion, and I'm happy to hear your patience is being rewarded!

Food on the grill sounds SO good to me!

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Post by Dandelion » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:39 am

Rats. Usually if I make it from 3-5 pm I'm in the clear. Not so today.

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Post by Dandelion » Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:51 pm

Monday after a fail and two S days. I hope I can make this a good week.

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Post by Dandelion » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:00 am

A good day today.

My husband asked me if I wanted a bite of something he was eating, and when I said 'no, I thought about it, but eating something because it's there even if I don't want it isn't a good enough reason.' He surprised me by saying '..and it's not an 'S''.

LOL. I didn't even know he knew that much about it :)

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Post by frugaltexan » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:29 am

Yay! :D
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Post by Dandelion » Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:09 am

A very green week for me - and so far not a stupid Saturday :)

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Post by Ragdoll » Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:09 pm

Dandelion wrote:918 Although it feels strange to declare the day a success when I ate so darn much. I'm just not used to how this feels at all.

B: biscuits* and gravy*
L: Lunch out with a friend. I had Chipotle posole
D: Chinese - and lots of it, Kombucha*

I'm looking forward to my first S :)

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What is Kombucha?
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Post by Dandelion » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:44 pm

Hello to you, too :)

Wow, that's one of my old days, isn't it? I"m still eating a lot, though.

Kombucha is a fizzy, probiotic drink made from tea. I made it for a while before we left England, but didn't keep it up through the move. You can buy it here, but it gets expensive, so I started making it again.

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Post by Ragdoll » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:49 pm

Dandelion wrote:Hello to you, too :)

Wow, that's one of my old days, isn't it? I"m still eating a lot, though.

Kombucha is a fizzy, probiotic drink made from tea. I made it for a while before we left England, but didn't keep it up through the move. You can buy it here, but it gets expensive, so I started making it again.
Sounds absolutely yums!

How is the weight loss going? Do you feel you've lost a significant amount?
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Post by Dandelion » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:14 pm

I'm down a size, which I think is significant. Due to my ..ahem..age and the fact that I'm hypothyroid and that the weight I have to lose is from taking steroids, I think it's even more so.

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Post by Ragdoll » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:33 pm

Dandelion wrote:I'm down a size, which I think is significant. Due to my ..ahem..age and the fact that I'm hypothyroid and that the weight I have to lose is from taking steroids, I think it's even more so.
Good for you, girl! =) Well done!
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Post by kccc » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:43 pm

Yay! Congrats!

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Post by Dandelion » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:03 pm

Thank you :)

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Post by Dandelion » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:03 pm

Thank you :)

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Post by Dandelion » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:51 am

The month is nearly over, and looking at my habitcal, I see one red splotch in a sea of green and yellow. It's so easy now to stick to, green is the default.

That one red splotch doesn't really bother me. I didn't make a connection at the time. But the red day was the birthday of my little sister who was killed in a car accident when she was 17. So if I had a tougher time than usual sticking to 'the plan' that day, it means absolutely nothing.

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Post by Dandelion » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:51 pm

It was a pretty good weekend. I kept very busy - shopping and visiting family on Saturday, then busy around the house Sunday. I baked bread, and fixed a big dinner with chocolate souffles and cream for dessert.

No weight loss this past week, but it tends to do that. Stay the same for a week or two - then suddenly drop a pound and a half.

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Post by Dandelion » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:36 am

It would be nice if that day was tomorrow. I could use some success about now.

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Post by Dandelion » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:25 am

Friday was a bit tough, since I had the day off so it felt like an S day, but I was determined not to cave in. I even baked brownies and didn't even have a taste, which I thought was quite an accomplishment - and they were great with lunch today :)

It's been a good day here. We worked around the house and tried a new local grocery store. Exciting stuff:).

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Post by Starla » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:23 pm

I think home-made brownies would be my absolute downfall. I could never even consider having them around the house. Even reading about brownies makes me want them! So your ability to resist them is very, very impressive.

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Post by Dandelion » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:54 pm

I've got slightly more than half of them sitting there in the kitchen going stale. They are gonna have to go in the freezer soon!

Even without eating more than two brownies, I managed to have an 'S days gone wild' kinda weekend. Bummer.

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Post by Starla » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:57 pm

If it makes you feel better, I have never in my life seen a stale brownie.

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Post by Dandelion » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:34 pm

These are especially good brownies, too. The way I look at it, one of these days I'll run across these in the freezer and they'll be a nice surprise :)

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Post by kccc » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:29 am

Starla wrote:If it makes you feel better, I have never in my life seen a stale brownie.
Lol! I have a lot of food-storage issues that I never had before No-S. Like, how do you store cookies? I had no idea, because they used to get eaten right off the cooling rack!!! (Except, I wouldn't allow myself to make them, because I knew what the result would be). Once I started No-S, I had to learn what to do with them when they were LEFT!! (Cookie tins work just fine. And I freeze cookie dough, so I can bake just a few cookies at a time and eat them hot, because they really are better that way.)

Oh, and ice cream... I don't like it when it starts getting freezer burn because it's been in the freezer un-eaten for too long. (Plastic wrap pressed down over the ice cream helps delay that... and now I buy smaller-but-tastier versions.)

A whole new world... I still remember when I looked at my husband one weekend and asked "Did you eat all the chocolate eggs?" in disbelief. Up until then, I was always the culprit who ate up the goodies! He admitted it, then added defensively that it had been a month since Easter. Which was true - and a new record for the longest that chocolate has lasted in our house.

Sorry to hijack your thread, Dandelion - this just made me laugh!

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Post by Dandelion » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:06 am

Not at all! I'm enjoying your comments:)

I almost made ice cream tonight. I got as far as mixing it all up, but now I'm too tired to mess with it. I came home from work and made yogurt and bread and tended to all my dairy cultures, cleaned out the refrigerator, helped the kid with homework and fixed dinner. So, the mixture is in the refrigerator for another day.

But yeah - it gets ice crystals and I've been wondering if plastic wrap on the surface would help.

I freeze balls of cookie dough, too. I only bake a dozen or so at a time so they're always fresh :)

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Post by kccc » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:37 pm

Sounds like a busy-enough day without the ice cream!

I've never made ice cream. Something to do this summer (I don't have an ice-cream maker, but would consider getting one. Though I don't care for ice cream until the temperature is above 80... unlike my family.) Would also like to try yogurt, but right now is not a good time for one more new thing.

I freeze chocolate-chip cookies individually - I drop them on a cookie sheet like I'm going to bake them (except closer together), stick that in the freezer for 15 minutes, then peel them off and put them in a plastic tub. Then I can pop them straight onto the baking sheet and cook from frozen (just add a minute to the baking time), and I know how many I'm baking. I've baked as few as 4 cookies at a time, lol!

Loving the artisan bread. Right now, I'm on a focaccia binge. :)

You sound you cook a lot of time-consuming things, but you also work? I cook a good bit, but it's mostly faster things... and I feel like I have to be super-organized to manage what I do. Would love to hear any tips you have on juggling everything.

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Post by Dandelion » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:07 pm

One of the first things we bought when we moved to the US was an ice cream maker so we could make it 'our way' :)

I freeze the cookie dough the same way :)

Love foccacia. I made it a few weeks ago, but not lately.

As far as time goes - I know a lady who is my idol. Her name is Vicky. She works full-time, has two farms in two states, has four kids and she does so much herself, she doesn't even need to go to the grocery store that often.

The thing that keeps me going is my overwhelming belief that what I'm doing is important to my family and our well-being. It's a lot of time, but I'm it gives me a good feeling that I'm doing something important - and doing it well - and I know it will pay off in better health for us all. Actually, I've already seen the evidence of that.

Aside from that it tastes so amazingly good - and life's too short not to eat good food we like :)
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Post by Dandelion » Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:44 pm

It's been snowing all weekend, and still is. I suppose if I'm going to spend a weekend mostly in the kitchen, that's as good a time as any. I'm tired of it though. I've bottled kombucha, made hot dog buns to go with our grass-fed hot dogs, made ice cream, soaked and dehydrated granola, made yogurt (with whole milk and extra cream) in three varieties - plain, with raw honey and one with fruit which I thinned with whole milk and decanted into bottles for my son's lunches next week, baked Bath Buns (soooo good), and prepared ginger beer.

I still have to bottle the ginger beer when it cools and bake bread for next week. Oh, yeah, and I need to make pizza dough for dinner tonight, and possibly chocolate panna cotta for dessert. Everyone really liked it last time I made it and I still have most of that gallon of cream left to use up.

Once I get those things out of the way, I think we might make popcorn (I use an air popper and add *lots* of grass-fed butter and some good salt) and watch a movie. Gotta get some time to relax this weekend. It will be Monday soon enough!
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Post by Dandelion » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:46 pm

It's a sunny Monday and after all that good food over the weekend, it's nice to be back to the N days. Although most of the things I made don't need to be limited to the S days. We did manage to fit in that popcorn and movie, and we even managed to take a snowy walk to the grocery store. I ended up feeling more rested and energetic than I expected for a Monday morning after a busy weekend.

I think I'm finally getting the hang of the ABIF. The loaf I made last night is without doubt the best so far. I'm planning Zuppa Toscana tonight to go with it :)

Didn't make the soup. We had a situation to deal with leaving no time - or enthusiasm - for soup making. Maybe Wednesday...
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Post by Dandelion » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:07 am

What a freaky few days this has been. I found myself wanting to just chuck the whole thing and go home and eat something. It was such a ridiculous thought I had to think about why that even occurred to me, however briefly.

Is No S a hardship? Is it difficult? Is it restrictive or a struggle in any way? Is there anything else I want to do? Nope. So why this sudden urge to rebel when I didn't even really want to?

I think the other situations are so out of my control and stress is building because there is no outlet - nothing I can do about it. In a way it felt like a scream no one could hear.

But it passed...

....and it's time to start fixing dinner...

...and life goes on...
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Post by frugaltexan » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:29 am

I'm glad the temptation passed for you. It's a sinking feeling when you start to give in to it - especially, since like you pointed out, it isn't as though this is a *difficult* eating plan.

I hope the weird situation(s) clear up soon for you.
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Post by Starla » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:31 pm

Wow, Dandelion, I know that "chuck the whole thing and go home and eat something" feeling, and I'm very impressed that you were able to stop in the middle of that and analyze the situation in a way that helped you.

I'm with Laura in hoping your stressful situations clear up quickly.

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Post by Aquapixie » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:00 pm

*hugs* Hope today is better, and like the others, your weird situation clears up.

You've been doing awesome and you keep it up!

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Post by Dandelion » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:20 pm

Thanks everyone. I think I'm lucky it happened in the car, which gave me time before I got home and did something dumb:) And it would have been dumb - eating wouldn't have helped in any way.

I think the whole situation has gotten to me physically, too. I'm feeling lousy today, so decided to take the day off.
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Post by kccc » Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:35 pm

So sorry you're having a stressful time. And am impressed that you're aware that "food is not the answer (because hunger is not the problem)" and are avoiding the trap of self-medicating with food. That's an awesome step.

Hope whatever is going on in your life calms down, and you feel better.

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Post by Dandelion » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:34 am

Thank you. The situation is better today, but the after-effects linger. I decided to mark today as a failure even though I wasn't feeling well. I definitely crossed the line between taking care of myself on a 'sick' day - and being an idiot.
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Post by Aquapixie » Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:49 pm

Hey :) Hope all is going well today. Just wanted to say Hullo!

I ordered Artisan Bread in Five Minutes a Day! It came this morning! I'm excited to try it out. Thanks for recommending it. :)

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Post by Dandelion » Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:07 pm

Let me know how it goes, k? I've got to mix up some more dough this weekend so it will be ready during the week. It'll take... what? Five minutes? :)

Yesterday was a very good day. It's starting to feel like spring here. Not the weather, but the feeling, which helps make it a good day, but we had fun things to do as well. We belong to a local group that supports farmers, local, sustainable, traditional (you know the buzz words) and every couple of months we have a meeting with lunch, speakers and products for sale. Yesterday was a big one. The food was fantastic and I enjoyed being able to load my plate up with samples of everything. I love how I can eat so much more this way. I do not mean 'allow' myself to eat anything I truly mean 'able to'. I used to get full on only a few bites of food. Since I've been NoSing, I can eat a full plate of food like a 'normal' adult - not a three year old.

Anyway, there were soups, stews, chilis and roasts - all from local, grass-fed sources, artisan bread with grassfed, homemade butter, loads of side dishes and fermented condiments - everything organic and homemade.

There was a farmers market afterwards. I stocked up on pastured, organic lard and bought a 25 pound bag of organic rolled oats - I see a lot more french fries and granola in our house in the near future :)

Aside from bottling ginger beer (it's going well - a bit too fizzy, but I'm trying various things to tame the fizz) mixing up bread dough and a little shopping, I'm not sure what is on the agenda for today. I should get moving before the day gets away.
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Post by Dandelion » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:27 pm

Aww...I just saw this post. I haven't checked in for ages. Are you here?
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Post by Dandelion » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:06 pm

Since I'm here ....:)

I don't know how long it's been since I was here last. I suppose I could look, but now that I'm writing I'd rather just keep going :)

May was manic as usual, made more so by unexpected company at the end of the month. June is always a busy time for us - two birthdays and then father's day along with the usual summertime activities. We haven't had much time just for relaxing, but I hope to change that. We've been spending as much time as possible at the pool - but more would be better :)

I've been spending a lot of time in my kitchen (no surprise there!). I'm still making yogurt and granola, and other than buns for the party, I haven't bought bread from the store since sometime last year. I'm brewing water kefir, but put my kombucha culture into storage to focus on Ginger Beer for the summer. It's probably time to make another batch of mead, too.

We've got loads of strawberries this year from our backyard strawberry patch, so I'm going to try making jam and strawberry syrup. I've never done either before :)

In the category of 'things I've never done before' I made clotted cream last week for the first time. It was amazingly good :) This week I'm going to make catsup.

As far as NoS goes, I have really just been going about life without thinking about it much and my weight has stayed the same. I'm not surprised, though. I didn't 'do' anything to lose it other than the NoS basics (ie, I didn't try to cut or control portions, count calories, eat 'diet' foods or exercise) I just let NoS do its work - so there was no 'off' and no 'rebound' weight gain.

Happy first day of Summer to all you northern hemisphere types :)
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Post by Dandelion » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:20 am

Time can be so deceptive - it can't possibly be nearly seven months since I was last here. I'm glad there are still so many familiar faces...er...names ;)
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Post by Starla » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:20 pm

Dandelion! It's SO good to "see" you again! I hope the rest of your 2010 went well. I have to tell you, I read your posts about making mead and clotted cream, and I picture you working in the kitchen of a medieval castle.

Keep in touch!

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Post by Dandelion » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:50 pm

It's good to 'see' you, too :) I'm going to have to spend some time on your thread catching up.

I'm at home today taking advantage of the day off to do some cleaning and cooking, and hoping to spend some time later taking advantage of the nice weather to get out in the sunshine.

The week has gone well - all enjoyable, easy green. Not sure what's in store for the weekend, but I intend to enjoy it as well.
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Post by kccc » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:21 pm

Tried your trick of making biscuits with yogurt instead of buttermilk. Oh my! They were GREAT. I think my recipe will be permanently edited. :)

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Post by Dandelion » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:09 am

Glad you liked it! I made some muffins the other day that were a bit dense - next time I'm going to try adding yogurt to see if it helps.
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Post by Dandelion » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:59 am

Another week has gone by - a week filled with work and family, fun times and quiet times - and as always, lots of good food: from our croissant breakfasts to chocolate filled crepes, with a lot of other good stuff in between :).

I've settled into a routine with NoS that fits me very well. I'm no longer thinking of it in terms of 'success' or 'failure'/ green days or red days. My life isn't like that, bringing to mind the proverbial square peg in a round hole. It is what it is, and one of these days I'll get around to writing how NoS fits into it.

In the meantime, it's time to get ready for the week ahead. The weatherman says to expect snow. I haven't decided if I want him to be right..or wrong.

Hope everyone has a great week.
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Post by Dandelion » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:29 pm

It's rather odd, but lately my biggest problem is that I'm not hungry. I just haven't felt like eating in several days. I suppose to some that would sound like a 'good' thing, but it's not working so well for me.

What had been working was eating three big meals of whatever I felt like eating - and nothing else all day. I discovered I *like* eating that way. I like the rhythm of it. The feeling of being comfortably full and then comfortably hungry just in time to fully appreciate the next meal. I liked being free of planning and snacks and carrying food around. I liked that I could eat the kind of food people on diets only dream about (literally) and still lose weight.

Now for some reason I can't eat. I don't miss the food, since I just don't want it at all. If I eat even half what I usually eat, I feel overfull and uncomfortable, and if I don't eat much, it's tough to make it four or five hours to the next meal. I don't want to add meals to my day or start carrying food around.

Maybe this is temporary, maybe it's the 'new me'. Time will tell
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Post by Dandelion » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:39 am

Time has slipped by for me again. Doing well, though. Spring is here, and that makes so many things easier.
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Post by Dandelion » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:33 pm

So. I'm supposed to be working, and instead out of the blue, I thought - ' It's been a long time since I looked in at the NoS forum.' So I did. I even remembered my password. I can't believe it's been two years since I was last here. It certainly doesn't seem that long.

Many things have changed in my life since I was last here. I've fallen into habits of those around me, and I don't actually like them. The habits - not the people :). I miss the days when I could put away a whole plate of food or get my money's worth out of an all-you-can-eat pizza buffet. It doesn't taste as good anyway, when you're not *really* hungry.

I did have some issues though, when I did NoS before. I don't think it means I can't do it, it just means I'll have to personalize a bit. But I figure that's okay - it just means it will suit me long term rather than for 'as long as I can stand it'. Those issues are better left for another post - assuming I keep posting that is.
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Post by MJ7910 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:29 pm

what were your main issues when you did it before? just curious for i have my issues too. mainly right now just overdoing s days but i think in time i will learn!
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Post by Dandelion » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:40 am

If you're just starting out, it's very common to have wild S days, especially after a history of diets .

I had reached the point where I was sticking to it easily on N days, and S days were no longer wild. I lost a little weight, but not a lot. It didn't bother me too much, though. I'm hypothyroid, so any weight loss was an achievement.

Then I stopped losing..and started gaining. And not gradually, either. No change in diet, and if anything I was more active than I had been. I started having telltale hypo symptoms. I went to my doc and she raised my meds - and I learned my 6+ hours between meals was probably going too long between meals.

I could have just added a fourth meal, but for various reasons, I did a 180 instead. Maybe I just need a change every two years :)
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Post by MJ7910 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:28 am

Well if you read the intro part again, I think 4 meals a day is fine. I hope you can get back into the groove of it soon. Mentally I feel so much better!
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Post by Dandelion » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:27 pm

Apparently, I just can't stay away - or here for that matter. Or maybe this is my yearly check-in.

I don't think I have ever fully abandoned No S. I find I dislike snacking even more as time goes on. It seems everywhere I look people can't do anything or go anywhere without food. And no one I know (IRL) finds it strange let alone undesirable. And I don't mean just from a weight perspective, either - but the whole mindset that more is always better. Not only that - but more *now*.

I feel like a voice in the wilderness - if I spoke about it at all, which I don't - but you get the idea. I am sure it's one of the reasons I check in here every so often. It's nice to be around people who 'get it' for a change.

I think it makes it easier for me to stick to NoS without too much fuss. Sure, I slip up sometimes, but for the most part, I don't have to 'make' myself do it - I do it because it's what I believe.
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Post by eschano » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:27 am

Your Julia Child quote is great. I totally know what you mean about snacking and how pervasive it is. It's true that believing in a value system like less is more makes it so much easier to stick with it.
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Post by Dandelion » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:14 pm

Thanks for the welcome and comments!

Things are going well despite some particularly trying circumstances. It really does help to head off mindless eating off by having a simple 'I don't snack' attitude. There is no thinking, bargaining, no vacillating - it's a simple 'no'. Or in the case of offered snacks, 'no thank you' :)

I am clearly not eating enough at dinner, though, but that's a topic for another day.

Happy Friday everyone!
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Post by Dandelion » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:14 am

After spending the majority of the day doing practically nothing, I must be at least somewhat rested up from this last week, since I'm beginning to feel like doing something. It was particularly stressful and exhausting. I don't say that to brag about how 'busy' or 'important' I am - I dislike having my work take over my life, but events this past week conspired against me. Next week will be nearly as bad, but that's the nature of things this time of year.

Today was my first official 'S' day in a long time and didn't even remember it until about noon. The first time I tried NoS, I was practically white knuckling it through the week and planing all week what I'd eat at the weekend.

I'm not sure why it's so different this time, though I have a couple of ideas. One is the idea I mentioned in my 'I"m back' post the other day. This is no longer something I'm 'making' myself do. Now I'm just living out what I believe. The other is I'm paying more attention to how I feel and being 'kinder' to myself. While I likely won't see the results that I might if I were strictly 'vanilla', I hope that the daily, consistent moderation balances out over the long run.

One thing I know will work against me is the scale. I really need to break the scale habit. Ideally, I'd like to put the scale away for good, but I don't think I am ready for that. How ridiculous that sounds when I put it in writing! I just need to do this. I"ll check tomorrow to see how my first week back at NoS went and that's it until May.
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Post by Dandelion » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:03 pm

It was so nice this morning to wake to the sound of rain. It's turning to snow, now, but hopefully it won't stick around. I am no longer wishing for a snow day. We're so close to the end of the school year now I dislike the idea of adding snow days to the end.

I did weigh myself, though I haven't put the scale away, though I will. I am down three pounds from the start of April. I think the numbers are a bit inflated, since my weight at the beginning of the month likely had a bit of post-spring break temporary increase.

Off to start the day - with Nutella waffles and raspberries for breakfast.
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Post by lpearlmom » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:23 pm

Enjoy your weather for me. It's already in the 90s here!

Your break sounds yummy. Is the Nutella inside the waffles or on top?

Have a great Sunday!

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Post by Dandelion » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:39 pm

The nutella was mixed in the waffles. It was the first time I've tried making these, but I'm softof catering to my youngest who is having a tough time eating due to new braces.

The weather yesterday was certainly cold for mid-April, especially after all the upper 70s lately. The sun is out now and it should warm up.

I took a real 'S' day yesterday: large late lunch, made 'Easter Nests' in the afternoon (shredded wheat and melted chocolate formed into a nest, for cadbury mini eggs 8) ) After all that, no one felt like eating dinner, but we made popcorn and watched a movie.

Not a bad way to spend a cold, snowy April day.
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Post by lpearlmom » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:58 pm

Oh gotcha--what a nice mommy! My kids love Nutella so may try that.

Sounds like a lovely day!

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Post by Dandelion » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:00 pm

A little positivity for the day:

I had a doc appointment. He said 'Good job on the weight loss. Keep doing what you're doing' - or similar words to that effect

:)
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Post by Dandelion » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:18 am

Reflections on a Saturday.

Note to Self: Even on an 'S' day, it's silly to eat food you don't even like. It's even sillier to overeat food you don't even like.
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Great note to self! I think we should carry that one around with us!
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Post by Dandelion » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:07 am

I definitely ate too much today, too, but at least it was good stuff: Croissant for breakfast, Eggs Benedict for lunch, hot cross buns for tea, and BBQ chicken with chipotle raspberry glaze, grilled artichokes and strawberry shortcake for dinner.

Oh yeah, and a couple of chocolate mini eggs in between :)
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Post by lpearlmom » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:23 am

I think we have similar tastes in food. Your posts always makes me hungry. :D
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Post by Dandelion » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:31 pm

That happens to me with a couple of people on here

Reflections on a four day weekend: (Yes, I had Good Friday and Easter Monday off. It was bliss)

I've noticed it is far easier to wait until the next meal when I'm physically hungry than it is when I just 'feel like' eating something.

That, of course, assumes I"m not so hungry I become ill - just moderately hungry, vs just bored or 'head hungry'.

Weird.
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Post by eschano » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:58 am

Delighted your doctor noticed the change and encouraged it!
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Post by Dandelion » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:38 pm

We're only talking about 2-3 pounds, but being my thyroid doc, he knows how tough it really is.

Speaking of tough, it's been a rough week. Nothing particularly bad, just a lot going on. It's always like that this time of year so nothing to do but 'Hold tight and pretend it's a plan' 8) That's what I intend to do anyway.

And laundry. Must do laundry.
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Post by automatedeating » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:00 pm

Dandelion wrote:
Speaking of tough, it's been a rough week. Nothing particularly bad, just a lot going on. It's always like that this time of year so nothing to do but 'Hold tight and pretend it's a plan' 8) That's what I intend to do anyway.

And laundry. Must do laundry.
Haha I could have written this post exactly!!! Are you a teacher?
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