Freegirl New Start

Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

Moderators: Soprano, automatedeating

Post Reply
freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Freegirl New Start

Post by freegirl » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:56 pm

I am making the new start. I am planning to eat four meals for now. Maybe one day I will become 'vanilla No S' person, maybe not. Four meals is still much better than grazing all day.

Some of the things I need to learn:

* This is a lifelong process, and red days are OK
* Red day does not have to turn to WTH mode
* A string of red days is still much better than my previous way of eating

Day 1 - S Day
Day 2 - S Day
Day 3 - Red

***** From Oct 29, 2012 my mini-meal between lunch and dinner is a handfull of nuts *******
***** From Oct 29, 2012 I am on a 5 week cleansing program, so my S days are the same as my N days *******

Height: 5' 9" (175 cm)
SW: 213.4 lbs (97 kg), BMI=31.70

Monday October 29: Food - GREEN; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Tuesday October 30: Food - GREEN; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Wednesday October 31: Food - GREEN; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Thursday November 1: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 1 h of yoga
Friday November 2: Food - YELLOW, S event (no sweets); Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Saturday November 3: Food - GREEN, three meals
Sunday November 4: Food - YELLOW - S day (no sweets)
Monday November 5: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 h of yoga
Tuesday November 6: Food - RED; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Wednesday November 7: Food - YELLOW, S event, no sweets; Exercise: RED
Thursday November 8: Food - RED; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 h of yoga
Friday November 9: Food - YELLOW, S event, no sweets; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Saturday November 10: Food - GREEN, three meals
Sunday November 11: Food - GREEN, three meals
Monday November 12: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 h of yoga
Tuesday November 13: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Wednesday November 14: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Thursday November 15: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 hour of yoga
Friday November 16: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
November 17 - 24 -vacation: I ate three meals, seafood and lots of vegetables. I did have seconds, but my second plate was only fruit. I did not eat sweets, but had a few coctails with sugar in the evenings. I lost one pound.
Sunday November 25: YELLOW; no sweets; one fruits and nuts snack
Monday November 26: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 h of yoga
Tuesday November 27: Food - YELLOW - S event; Exercise: RED
Wednesday November 28: Food - YELLOW - S event; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Thursday November 29: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 1 hour of yoga
Friday November 30: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Saturday December 1: :D - S day
Sunday December 2: Food - GREEN, three meals
Monday December 3: Food - GREEN, three meals; Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 hour of yoga
Tuesday December 4: Food - :D (S event); Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
Wednesday December 5 : Food - :mrgreen: ; Exercise: :mrgreen: (45 min on a treadmill)
Thursday December 6 : Food - :oops: ; Exercise: :mrgreen:
Friday December 7 : Food - :D NWS day ; Exercise: :mrgreen:

CW: 199.8 lbs (90.8 kg); 13.5 lbs lost (6.2 kg) :D
Last edited by freegirl on Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:33 pm, edited 30 times in total.

User avatar
dana2012
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:46 pm

Post by dana2012 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:12 pm

Hi, Freegirl.

I wish you the best on your new start. I don't think there is anything wrong with 4 meals. Some people need four meals. If you are really hungry (as in an empty stomach) then I think it's find to eat. If you are a light eater then your meals will probably digest more quickly than if you eat heavier meals. I agree with you, 4 meals is much better than grazing.

I just started last week so I'll be on the journey with you.

oolala53
Posts: 9661
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:50 pm

Given your history, I agree that this is a smart way to proceed. It's best to do what you consider fair and reasonable, so that when the urges come to eat at undesignated times, you can remind yourself that it is ultimately fair to limit yourself the way you've decided to. You are feeding yourself more than adequately and will not starve or damage yourself to limit yourself to those meals. Things will likely change as time goes on. It might be the frequency, the makeup, or the amount of food on your plate. That is one of the beauties of No S. Either what you do or how you feel about it or both will likely be different after 6 months, one year, two years, etc.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:22 am

Day 4 - SUCCESS
I went to bed hungry, but that's OK; I can tolerate it.

Day 5 Food - RED
I ate fruit between meals

Day 5 Exercise - SUCCESS
1/2 hour on the treadmill

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:16 pm

Thurs Oct 11- Day 5 Food - RED
I ate fruit between meals

Day 5 Exercise - SUCCESS
45 min on the treadmill, 1 hour of yoga

Fri Oct 12 - Day 6 Food - RED
Evening snack

Day 5 Exercise - SUCCESS
45 min on the treadmill
-------------------------------

I had only one green food day this week. I'll keep trying. On the other side, I am happy that I re-discovered how much better I feel when I exercise. I intend to follow the advice that I read somewhere: 'Keep your food goals and your exercise goals separate.'

ironchef
Posts: 1630
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:12 am
Location: Australia

Post by ironchef » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:26 pm

freegirl wrote:On the other side, I am happy that I re-discovered how much better I feel when I exercise.
It's strange isn't it? Exercise seems to be the only thing that I forget that I like. Then I do some, and get reminded how much I love the feeling. I never forget that I like, say, chocolate cupcakes.

oolala53
Posts: 9661
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:55 pm

HA! Forget I like cupcakes!

freegirl, you are doing awesome. Your fails are small and you don't seem to be experiencing WTH. That is huge. Keep on truckin'.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:13 am

Days 8 and 9 - S days
I ate too much - emotional eating. I don't want to repeat these S days.

Oct 15 - Day 10
Food - RED: Ate a lot after dinner.
Exercise - SUCCESS: I made it to the gym, but could do only stretching.

Oct 16 - Day 11
Food - SUCCESS
Exercise - SUCCESS: 45 min on a treadmil

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:20 pm

Wednesday Oct 17 - Day 12

Food - S Day

I am planning S days on Wednesdays and Saturdays. It's easier for me to be 'good' 2 -3 days at the time. Today I ate dried fruit and chocolate after dinner.

Exercise - SUCCESS: 45 min on the treadmill.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:07 am

Oct 18, Thursday - Day 13 Food - RED: Ate after dinner; mainly fruit, but also some leftowers
Exercise - SUCCESS: 45 min on a treadmil, 1 hour of yoga

Oct 19, Friday - Day 14 Food - RED: dried fruit and chocolate after dinner
Exercise - SUCCESS: 45 min on a treadmil
-----------------------------
What I accomplished in the first two weeks:

Food: I had only 2 green days, but I still developed some good habits:
* I did not eat between breakfast and lunch
* I ate once between lunch and dinner ( as planned)
Focus for the next two weeks: keep good habits, plus do not eat after dinner. I will not count as sweet a small portion of dried fruit after dinner ( 1 date or 2 figs)

Exercise:
Went to the gym 8 days, 6 days 45 min on a treadmill; plus 1 hour of yoga on Thursday nights
Focus for the next two weeks:
Add 15 min of yoga in the evenings.

I am soooo glad I succesfully separated my food and exercise goals. :D In the past I would not do anything if I cannot be perfect on all fronts.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:52 am

I made a big mistake on Saturday - I stepped on a scale. I did not lose any weight. I was dissapointed; even though my food was less than perfect, I exercised quite a lot in the past two weeks. That dissapontment triggered WTH syndrome. Not only that, but I was quite upset. I guess a lot of past failures came alive with that. I am so tired of this battle with my weight and everything that goes with it. :cry:

eschano
Posts: 2632
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:20 pm

Post by eschano » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:14 am

Hi freegirl,

God, I know the feeling.
I had a similar experience last week and am now re-focusing on my N days. No mods, but strict vanilla.

You'll get there!
eschano - Vanilla rocks!

July 2012- January 2016
Started again July 2018

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:28 am

I decided to follow 2 S-es: no sweets and no seconds. No sweets means nothing with sugar, and also no dried fruit, no juices and no alcohol. I'll keep eating snacks for now (only healthy food and only when I am hungry). I am currently not eating between breakfast and lunch, but I have my afternoon snack, and sometimes also after dinner snack. I figured out that this approach is better than quitting no S altogether.

Tuesday Oct 23 - day 18

Food: SUCCESS
Exercise: SUCCESS (45 min on a treadmill)

milliem
Posts: 1178
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:30 pm

Post by milliem » Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:47 pm

Keep at it, I see green days outweighing the red which is brilliant for the first few weeks :) compliance will come with practice, and results will follow from compliance! Do you have a plan to reintroduce the 'no snacking', or are you going to see how it goes for a while?

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:43 am

Yes, I plan to re-introduce no snacking in the future. Actually, I hope that it will happen naturaly.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:41 pm

I've read my posts, and I see how many new decisions/mods I've made in just 3 weeks. That's not good. If I am not convinced that something is good for me, and I am changing rules all the time, than I cannot make any progress. The only progress I made is with exercise. I read last night about the benefits of 12 h daily fast (e.g. 7 PM to 7 AM). I will definitely include that rule.

I am going on a cleansing program in the next 5 weeks, so all my days will be N days: no sweets, no seconds, only one afternoon snack, no eating after dinner.

milliem
Posts: 1178
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:30 pm

Post by milliem » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:58 am

Have you read the 'phases of NoS' post in the general discussion area? It can be helpful to focus on the basic habits before trying to integrate anything else.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:16 am

Monday October 29
Food: GREEN
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill

I ate a hanfull of nuts for my mini-meal between lunch and dinner, and did not eat anything after dinner :D
I eat mostly vegetarian diet. I have to make sure to include some protein in my meals. If I eat only carbs (or a lot of carbs), I get hungry sooner.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:13 am

Tuesday October 30 & Wednesday October 31
Food: GREEN
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill

It's getting easier not to eat in the evening. I feel good. I feel much better during the week than on weekends when I eat sweets. In the next 4-5 weeks I will not eat sweets because I am on a cleansing program. After that, I may introduce a couple of S events weekly.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:03 pm

Thursday November 1
Food: GREEN, three meals
Exercise: 1 h of yoga
Friday November 2
Food: YELLOW - S event
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill

I had an S event on Friday evening. We had friends over, I had a glass of wine and some food. I did not eat sweets, though. I feel so much better when I don't eat sweets.
Last edited by freegirl on Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

milliem
Posts: 1178
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:30 pm

Post by milliem » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:47 pm

Nice work on all those green days :)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:07 pm

Saturday November 3
Food: GREEN, three meals

I no longer feel a need for my extra meal between lunch and dinner. But it is important to me that I allow it, and that I still count it as success if I eat it. It helps a lot that I decided that it can only be a handful of nuts - nothing else.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:44 am

Sunday November 4 - S day
One fruit and nuts snack, wine with dinner
Monday November 5
Food: GREEN, three meals
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, one hour of yoga

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:07 am

Tuesday November 6
Food: RED
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill

This was an interesting red day. I had an appoinment after work, and I couldn't wait till dinner to eat. I ate nuts and bean chips. When I came home I did not feel like eating dinner, so I ate a lot of fruit.

In a way I am glad that this day was red. It was needed for balance :wink:

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:53 pm

Wednesday November 7
Food: GREEN, three meals
Exercise: RED

Our friends invited us over tonight. I will only drink water. It's important that today is green, after a red day yesterday.
---------------------
Well, it did not go as planned. I was hungry, and I ate, but not a lot. It's difficult not to eat when yu are hungry and food is in front of you.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:41 am

Thursday November 8
Food: RED
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 hour of yoga

I ate fruit (fresh and dried) after dinner.

eschano
Posts: 2632
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:20 pm

Post by eschano » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:57 am

Considering the amount of exercise you're doing it could be much worse than eating fruit :wink:

Hang in there!
eschano - Vanilla rocks!

July 2012- January 2016
Started again July 2018

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:04 pm

Friday November 9
Food: YELLOW - S Event
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill

We are going out with friends tonight, so it will be the fourth meal. It will be after 9 PM, so I cannot delay my dinner untill then. I will treat situations like this as S events.
-----------------
I ate only a few bites, and I had one drink.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:02 am

Saturday November 10
Food: GREEN - three meals

I stepped on a scale today: I lost 9.46 lbs (4.3 kg) :D
CW: 203.94 lbs (92.7 kg)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:01 pm

Sunday November 11
Food: GREEN - three meals

I don't have S days, but S events. I haven't decided on number of S events per week. Some weeks I may have one ( or none) S event, while others may have 3.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:27 am

Monday November 12
Food: GREEN - three meals
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 h of yoga

Tuesday November 13
Food: GREEN - three meals
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill

There were no S events this weekend. Sticking to three meals was easy.
Last edited by freegirl on Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:49 pm

Wednesday November 14
Food: GREEN - three meals
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill

Thursday November 15
Food: GREEN - three meals
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 h of yoga

Three meals are so natural now. And just a few weeks back I was so afraid to give up snacking!
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:48 am

Friday November 16
Food: GREEN - three meals
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill

I am off to my vacation today!
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

milliem
Posts: 1178
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:30 pm

Post by milliem » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:11 pm

Have a great holiday! And well done on your green week :)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:14 am

Thanks, Milliem! I came from vacation early this morning. It was great, warm weather and swimming in the ocean.....
I lost one pound on vacation! I ate three meals, seafood and lots of vegetables. I did have seconds, but my second plate was only fruit. I did not eat sweets, but had a few coctails with sugar in the evenings.

Today is an S day. Besides three meals, I ate one fruit and nuts snack.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

eschano
Posts: 2632
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:20 pm

Post by eschano » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:05 am

Wow, that is an amazing resume after your holidays! I saw on you November challenge that you're doing really well. Let's both make this week green!
eschano - Vanilla rocks!

July 2012- January 2016
Started again July 2018

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:50 pm

Yes, eschano, let's make this week green! :D


Monday November 26
Food: GREEN - three meals
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 hour of yoga

Tuesday November 27
Food: YELLOW - S event
Exercise: RED

Sometimes my S days are the same as my N days. At other times I have something extra on N day, as today, and I call it S event.

Wednesday November 28
Food: YELLOW - S event again - still PMS
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:08 am

I lost 6.2 kg ( 13.6 lbs) in a month! :D

When I re-started No S on Oct 8, I was very afraid to give up snacks. So, I allowed myself fruit and nuts snacks. However, it did not work so well. On Oct 29 I started with a new mod: if I need snack in the afternoon, I can eat only nuts. I ate like that for 3 days, and after that I no longer needed my afternoon snack!

Also, I did not eat sweets for the entire month - the sweetest thing I ate were dates (in the past couple of days). I have to be very carefull with sweets - I don't feel good if I eat them often. Right now I did not make a rule not to eat them, but I choose not to eat them. When I re-introduce them, it will be max once a week.

I have to say that exercise definitelly helped - it helps me with my emotional stability. Without it, I would not be able to stick to No S.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

User avatar
ZippaDee
Posts: 741
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:14 pm
Location: No Quit Zone

Post by ZippaDee » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:18 am

Congrats on the weight loss! Woot woot!!!!!! :D
"Rivers know this: There is no hurry. We shall get there some day." ~Winnie the Pooh ~

A Flower does not think of competing with the flower next to it. It just blooms!

Diets Don't Work.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:25 pm

Thursday November 29:
Food: GREEN - three meals
Exercise: 1 hour of yoga
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:23 am

Friday November 30:
Food: GREEN - three meals
Exercise: 45 min ona treadmill

I am happy how November went. I am planning December with not too many S events.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:24 am

Saturday December 1:

I was hungru between breakfast and lunch, so I had a snack (rice cakes, hummus, fresh pepper). I had a proper lunch, but wasn't very hungry for dinner, so I did not finish it. However, when we came home from the movies I felt a sudden hunger that felt like an emergency. I ate a lot of fruit and some rice chips.

I don't like this 'out of control' feeling. I am wondering if I should indulge more on S days to prevent this from happening? I was having S events rather than S days lately.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

oolala53
Posts: 9661
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:13 am

Might be a little too early to worry much. Although you might spend some time reminding yourself how you felt after giving in for future reference. I think learning to resist when it's hard is part of the repetoire of skills. Strong urges are likely to come on and off for a long time. There might be some ideal behavior to eliminate them, but it's got to be tricky or it would have become common knowledge.

You are doing great!
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

milliem
Posts: 1178
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:30 pm

Post by milliem » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:21 pm

Perhaps rather than thinking of it as 'indulging' just allow yourself the freedom of S days. If you only have one or two S's over the weekend then great, if you have more, that's fine! As oolala points out, it's early days and most people need the release valve of S days where they don't have to think too much about what to eat or when.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:51 pm

Thanks oolala and milliem! Opinions of succesful No S-ers really help.

Sunday Dec 2: GREEN - 3 meals

Monday Dec 3:
Food: GREEN (3 meals)
EXercise: 45 min on a treadmill, 1 hour of yoga

Tuesday Dec 4:
Food: YELLOW - S event ( getting together with friends tonight)
EXercise: 45 min on a treadmill
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

User avatar
~reneew
Posts: 2185
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:20 pm
Location: midwest US

Post by ~reneew » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:39 pm

I just noticed that you've hit "one"derland! Yea! Your weight now starts with a one! That's my goal! Keep it up, you're doing great!
I guess this doesn't work unless you actually do it.
Please pray for me

Sweetness
Posts: 1148
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:54 pm
Location: Fall and winters in Cuernavaca, Morelos Mexico and summers in St Paul, Minnesota

Post by Sweetness » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:02 pm

~reneew wrote:I just noticed that you've hit "one"derland! Yea! Your weight now starts with a one! That's my goal! Keep it up, you're doing great!
Freegirl,
Congratulations on the weight loss! Renee's comment makes me think you must now be a "one hit wonder", now that you've "hit one derland" :lol: OK I know, a groaner... :roll:
Patty

Anxiety in a person’s heart weighs him down, but an encouraging word brings him joy. (Proverbs 12:25 NET)
I'm a glutton for encouragement.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:43 pm

Thanks Renee and Patty!

I keep reminding myself to be patient, and not expect weight loss every week. There are so many other benefits to focus on !
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

oolala53
Posts: 9661
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:04 am

Not sure how much you think you have to lose, but not focusing on weight loss EVERY WEEK is certainly good, I'd say. I would have given up LONG ago as I went months at times with no change and even regained for awhile. Maybe something would have speeded things up but I'll never know now.

I'm convinced beeing committed to learning to feel and tolerate hunger for about an hour at least twice a day (before lunch and dinner) will result in weight loss, though it may be slow or in fits and starts. And it certainly has made me feel more sane around food.

But I do salute the weight change your sanity so far has brought on.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

Sweetness
Posts: 1148
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:54 pm
Location: Fall and winters in Cuernavaca, Morelos Mexico and summers in St Paul, Minnesota

Post by Sweetness » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:36 am

Have you looked at spark people? Great meal pans with calorie counting for free. 8)
Patty

Anxiety in a person’s heart weighs him down, but an encouraging word brings him joy. (Proverbs 12:25 NET)
I'm a glutton for encouragement.

oolala53
Posts: 9661
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:02 am

I've been on Spark for longer than here but I haven't used the food trackers much since I started No S. Even with the convenience, it's time consuming and I think puts the focus in the wrong place. It makes me want to either beat my calorie count or see what I can get away with. Both backfire eventually, and it doesn't usually take long enough to have been worth it.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

Sweetness
Posts: 1148
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:54 pm
Location: Fall and winters in Cuernavaca, Morelos Mexico and summers in St Paul, Minnesota

Post by Sweetness » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:51 pm

Sweetness wrote:Have you looked at spark people? Great meal pans with calorie counting for free. 8)
oops, this was supposed to go to a different thread. Someone who was having to pay for menu plans etc. Ipad is too "touchy."
Patty

Anxiety in a person’s heart weighs him down, but an encouraging word brings him joy. (Proverbs 12:25 NET)
I'm a glutton for encouragement.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:47 am

Red day today :oops:

I was very hungry around 4 PM, but managed not to eat anything till diinner. However, after dinner I kept eating dried fruit and nuts, even some chocolate. I don't feel stuffed, though.

On the bright side, I finished 45 min ona treadmill and will do 1 hour of yoga.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

oolala53
Posts: 9661
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:29 am

In my opinion, it's a victory that you didn't turn your small fail into "crashing the car."
and kudos on the exercise.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:29 pm

December 7:
Food: :D - NWS day - had a buffet lunch, visiting friends tonight
Exercise: 45 min on a treadmill
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:26 am

December 8 & 9: S days
I ate a lot. I did not try to restrict my eating for the first time in over a month.

December 10:
Food: :oops:
Exercise: :mrgreen: - 45 min on a treadmill, 1 hour of yoga

I ate arond 3 PM: apples, dried pineapple, nuts. I am so tired and depressed today. These dark days really get to me.
Last edited by freegirl on Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

Sweetness
Posts: 1148
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:54 pm
Location: Fall and winters in Cuernavaca, Morelos Mexico and summers in St Paul, Minnesota

Post by Sweetness » Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:56 am

Keep up the exercise, it should help for the depression. Wish I could send you some sunshine! 8)
Patty

Anxiety in a person’s heart weighs him down, but an encouraging word brings him joy. (Proverbs 12:25 NET)
I'm a glutton for encouragement.

oolala53
Posts: 9661
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Post by oolala53 » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:17 am

Never believe your thoughts after you've been eating a lot. Overeating definitely affects your thoughts, especially too much refined food. It's also part of the habit, so the two get linked.

I'm not sure how busy you have to be, but humans for millions of years led lives greatly reduced in activity during the shorter days of winter. I think it's natural to be a little more tired and even good to rest more. It don't think it's wasted time. I don't even necessarily sleep, but just sit or recline quietly, shifting my attention around to the different sensations in my body. I wish I had developed the habit decades ago. You'd be surprised how much is going on all the time! I've found the more often I pay attention, the more pronounced pulsing I feel when I do it.

Of course, if you get caught up in distressing thoughts, you may need either more pleasurable or productive activities or more strict meditative techniques. You certainly don't deserve to suffer.
Count plates, not calories. Three a day. 9 years & counting
Age 65
SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Mar/18 22.2

There is no S better than Vanilla No S.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:13 am

Thank you Patty and oolala! Your kind words mean a lot to me.

I am prone to low grade depression, especially in winter. So I crave sugar, but as oolala pointed out, eating a lot of sugar only makes it worse. I also have food sensitivities to gluten and dairy (learned it the hard way). Believe it or not, they trigger depression in some people (and unfortunately I am one of them). I ate a birthday cake on Saturday with cream in it. It was delicious, but I am paying the price today.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:14 am

Red day again :oops:

I wasn't depressed today, but I still ate a lot. It was as if I was rebelling against all limitations caused by my food sensitivities, and others that I imposed on myself even though they are not necessary. I guess I was rebelling against my lack of control in other areas of my life. I was rebelling because I can't get what I want from life no matter how strictly I follow No S.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

Sweetness
Posts: 1148
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:54 pm
Location: Fall and winters in Cuernavaca, Morelos Mexico and summers in St Paul, Minnesota

Post by Sweetness » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:02 am

Those of us who are easily depressed have to watch out for negative self talk, and be careful not to beat ourselves up! I have been in pain for the past 2 weeks, and it's tempting to feel sorry for myself. Today, instead I was counting my blessings. It really helped me feel better! 8)
Patty

Anxiety in a person’s heart weighs him down, but an encouraging word brings him joy. (Proverbs 12:25 NET)
I'm a glutton for encouragement.

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:36 am

You couldn’t have said it better, Patty! It's not circumstances of our lives that bring us down, it's our self-pity.

Today was red day again, although it was better than yesterday. My main concern now is not to sink into depression. I may try a carb snack before bed (it's supposed to help with serotonin production).

I exercised in the morning - changed it to 1/2 hour on a treadmil and 15 min on weight mashines.
51 year old female
New start Oct 20, 2014
Ht. 175 cm (5'9")
SW 98 kg (216 lbs)

freegirl
Posts: 160
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post by freegirl » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:40 pm

Happy New Year to everyone!

I decided to try again with these mods:

- fourth meal 3-4 hours after dinner (carbs to trigger serotonin production and prevent depression)
- 1 square of dark chocolate after dinner (it works better for me than eating a lot at once)

I am making some other adjustments - I need to get used to failure without getting discouraged. Even 50% compliance rate is much better than not trying!

I will check-in weekly.

Sweetness
Posts: 1148
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:54 pm
Location: Fall and winters in Cuernavaca, Morelos Mexico and summers in St Paul, Minnesota

Post by Sweetness » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:15 pm

freegirl wrote:Happy New Year to everyone!

I decided to try again with these mods:

- fourth meal 3-4 hours after dinner (carbs to trigger serotonin production and prevent depression)
- 1 square of dark chocolate after dinner (it works better for me than eating a lot at once)

I am making some other adjustments - I need to get used to failure without getting discouraged. Even 50% compliance rate is much better than not trying!

I will check-in weekly.
Sounds like a good plan. When I first started No S,I allowed myself extra dark chocolate on No S days. It has lots less sugar than sweetened yogurt, which Reinhard allows. Now I keep the chocolate bars to weekends, but I add some Hershey's cocoa powder to the ground coffee in my percolator in the morning. Then I add vanilla and milk, and some times stevia to sweeten,sometimes unsweetened. 8)
Patty

Anxiety in a person’s heart weighs him down, but an encouraging word brings him joy. (Proverbs 12:25 NET)
I'm a glutton for encouragement.

Post Reply