Kate's daily check-in

Counting carbs/calories is a drag. Obsessive scale stepping is a recipe for despair. If you want to count something, "days on habit" is a much better metric. Checking off days on a calendar would do just fine, but if you do it here you get accountability and support. Here's how. Start a new topic in this forum called (say) "Your Name Daily Check In." Then every N day post a "reply" to that topic as to whether you stayed on habit. A simple "<font color="green">SUCCESS</font>" or "<font color="red">FAILURE</font>" (or your preferred euphemism if that's too harsh) is sufficient, but obviously you're welcome to write more if you want. On S-days just register that you're taking an S-day. You don't have to do this forever, just until you're confident you've built the habit. Feel free to check in weekly or monthly or sporadically instead of daily. Feel free also to track other habits besides No-s (I'm keeping this forum under No-s because that's what the vast majority are using it for). See also my <a href="/habitcal/">HabitCal</a> tool for another more formal (and perhaps complementary) way to track habits.

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Post by wahine » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:57 am

Hmm,

I suppose I could have put it as an S day. But I think for me it is better to mark all unplanned eating etc as red. Even if I feel it is justified in some way. Otherwise I am very likely to start taking liberties.

Successful Wednesday and Thursday.

Sweetcorn is finally really cheap and plentiful. I think this time last year I was on some Low carb malarkey and avoided it. Yum.

Breakfast- porridge, banana and yoghurt
Lunch - peanut butter and spinach sandwich, tomato, Apple
Dinner- sweetcorn, chicken, salad, barley, apricot, banana (huge dinner, oh well)

I am still doing 5 min of Italian every day, just not writing the menus.
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Post by wahine » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:02 am

Hey cool, page two! I'm going to aim for a page 3 one day....
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Post by lpearlmom » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:03 pm

Yay for page two and enjoy that sweet corn! Your dinner doesn't look big to me esp since most of the food is on the light side.

Have a great day!

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Post by Queenie » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:54 pm

Is that a peanut butter and raw spinach sandwich? I'm trying to picture it...

Oh, sweet summer corn! Yum!

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Post by wahine » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:01 am

I wrote a whole reply about the sandwich but it doesn't look like I posted it. I think the moment has passed.

I had a tough weekend and then was sick on Monday. Back on track today, with the eating at least...
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Post by Queenie » Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:17 am

Wahine wrote:I wrote a whole reply about the sandwich but it doesn't look like I posted it. I think the moment has passed.
So be it. Thanks for all the typing, and I will take it that it's not time for me to learn about this exotic sandwich. : )

Wahine wrote:I had a tough weekend and then was sick on Monday. Back on track today, with the eating at least...
Sorry about the rough waters plus not feeling well on Monday. Hope March improves, and good to know your No-Sing was on track today.

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Post by wahine » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:37 am

Wow, my motivation was suddenly just...gone :(

I think it's because I've been off colour? I was like, what's the point? I'm fat anyway.

But, this system is the right thing to do for me. Maybe I should actually read the book?

Onwards and upwards.
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Post by Queenie » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:04 am

Awww. {{{ Hugs, Kate. }}}

(I haven't read the book yet either.)

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Post by wahine » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:36 pm

Queenie wrote:Awww. {{{ Hugs, Kate}}})

Thank you Queenie! Back on track now I think. Although hard to tell because it's the weekend!

Hmm need to work out some better strategies for when I get down.
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Post by Queenie » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:39 pm

Hope this week is going easier for you, Kate.

Did you get the book?

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Post by wahine » Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:41 am

Nah, didn't get the book yet.

Not a great week last week eating wise. Secret chocolate eating and such like. Right, start of a new week!
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Post by wahine » Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:32 am

Feeling Soo much better. Thank goodness. So, what have I learnt? Well I was sick, but it wasn't in bed with a fever sick or throwing up sick. I mainly felt really really tired. So, I thought I should stay on plan. But then I didn't and then I was just WTH and off on a bender.

Soo, next time I am sick I would be better to really have S days then when I am better really have N days.

Pretty much on track. Maybe I should take the fruit bowl off the table at dinner time because I do tend to take a piece of fruit after dinner when we are sitting around talking.
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:33 pm

Thanks for the love, Kate - much appreciated.
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Post by wahine » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:58 am

I bought the book! It's pretty good :)

successful Wednesday, more or less. I need to put my piece of fruit by my dinner plate at the beginning of the meal and include it in my visual assessment. I'm apparently not going to stop eating it without significant effort.
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Post by Queenie » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:41 am

Wahine wrote:next time I am sick I would be better to really have S days then when I am better really have N days.
That is brilliant. I will aim to follow your advice when I'm sick.

Sick days are S days. I believe it.

And N days are really N days. I like that.

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Post by Queenie » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:44 am

Wahine wrote:I bought the book! It's pretty good :)
Nice!
Wahine wrote:I need to put my piece of fruit by my dinner plate at the beginning of the meal and include it in my visual assessment. I'm apparently not going to stop eating it without significant effort.
I like how you recognize your habit, and you're making it part of your N-day. You're respecting your body (which clearly wants its piece of fruit) and you're respecting your commitment to No-S.

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Post by wahine » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:56 am

Success. Mussel cream sauce on rice tonight. Yum. I finally worked out to get the pliers to pull the mussel beards out instead of getting sore fingers. Now I might start cooking them more regularly. Cream sauce may not be the best default?
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Post by wahine » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:26 am

Success Friday and Monday. I'm sure this is good for my teeth and any dietary changes I might make in future will be easy to keep track of. But I do wish I was getting slimmer. Sigh.
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:28 am

I think a bit of cream is OK - this isn't a low-fat diet - it's just three meals No S. I keep my fat pretty low generally - and too much refined wheat will push my weight up (flour, pastry, pizza, bread).

I've probably said this before, but I almost always have a piece of fruit with each of my three meals; I don't put it on the plate - it's just not a big deal, but it feels 'right' for me and healthy and a little bit sweet I guess - but it's not a big sugar-sweet thing - it's mostly water - it's fruit!
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Post by wahine » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:41 pm

I have been away from home for more than 2 weeks. I did use no S as some sort of structure but didn't think to come online.

I have decided against screens at bedtime too so may not check in so much as I often did that in bed at night....
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Post by wahine » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:36 am

Yay I am feeling steady, as though NoS is really the easiest thing to do.
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:57 pm

Wahine wrote:Yay I am feeling steady, as though NoS is really the easiest thing to do.
Excellent!
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Post by wahine » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:14 am

Another easy day. Still eating good hearty meals mind you.
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Post by wahine » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:14 pm

Fail last night. The whole Friday night wine vibe made me think it was fine to have an extra plateful of chips then a banana. Now I have regret.

So I need to be extra careful on Fridays.
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Post by RAWCOOKIE » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:18 pm

Friday night here now :lol: and I'm trying to get an early night and failing - but not eating :D

Enjoy your weekend :) (I fancy chips .......... will have them next weekend probably as I'm at work from midday to bed-time on Saturday and Sunday this week. Next week - chips!
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Post by Queenie » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:45 am

Hi Kate,

I've been on vacation (last week) and just haven't been visiting the forum as often lately.

But I wanted to say Hello.

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Post by wahine » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:13 pm

I've been on a different "code". Back to this one starting this morning.
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Post by gingerpie » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:31 pm

Welcome home. :wink:

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Post by wahine » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:44 am

gingerpie wrote:Welcome home. :wink:
Thanks gingerpie.

It's 6.40 pm, my OH 's cooking night, but he isn't home yet. I am starving. This is usually when you would see me standing up in the kitchen eating out of the peanut butter jar with a spoon. I am sitting in the living room drinking miso and browsing the boards. So that's a win.

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Post by wahine » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:33 am

Eek. Failure on only my second day. Which means I have to write out everything I eat. So boring to do! But this will be my disincentive for going crazy once I have broken the rules.

B eggs, tomatoes
L egg, beetroot hummus, almonds, carrots, beans, celery, tomato
Fail: some kind of homemade Indian sweet baking that had been left out at work for us to eat. I was tired and fed up...
2nd fail: ate the rest of my lunch in the car on the way home. Almonds and an Apple
D prawn curry
3rd fail: still hungry after dinner, ate more almonds, because I couldn't think of anything else.

Prevention- a mid afternoon walk would have been a better choice. Also serve up more for dinner.
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Post by wahine » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:15 am

I've been enjoying my weekend. But eating standing up on impulse doesn't feel right.

Ah well. I will see how I go next weekend.
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Post by wahine » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:36 am

It's hard to stop the snacking. So today was a fail, but I kept in mind I would have to write it all out. I was home all day, as was my teenage son who had a cold. I felt a bit out of sorts.

B mushrooms, feta, sweet yoghurt. I had eggs planned but I was too full
Snacks - 2 hard boiled eggs and some almonds
L haloumi and green beans. More yoghurt . 3rd egg
Hot chocolate in the afternoon
Miso soup - I am ok with miso soup as a drink late afternoon. Sugary drink like hot chocolate is more problematic.
I decided to have book club snacks for dinner instead of dinner. Carrots, cucumber, cheese, almonds, crackers
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Post by wahine » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:42 am

Success. But I had to white knuckle it when I was cooking dinner.
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Post by Merry » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:52 am

wahine wrote:Success. But I had to white knuckle it when I was cooking dinner.
Good for you!
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Post by wahine » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:47 am

Wednesday and Thursday have gone well. Seems to be getting easier to remember when I first get home from work.
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Post by wahine » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:09 am

Fail today. Which is my second Monday in a row I've had trouble with. The rest of last week went well.

Today had
B Chia Bircher with coconut cream, figs and nuts
L eggs, fried haloumi toast

My plan was to eat the book club snacks as my dinner. But I didn't last. Had the leftover breakfast about 6pm. At book club had 3 glasses of wine, mussels, stuffed picantes, crackers with dips and cheese, 2 chocolates, nuts

A very Low vegetable day too. i am craving vegetable soup.
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Post by wahine » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:43 pm

Ha, must have forgotten to click submit on my last post. I am struggling because I have had a few days of poor sleep and Low mood, which makes my decision making less than perfect. It has just dawned on me there may be a reason for my troubles. I am being tested for coeliac and I have been back on large doses of gluten so the test will be valid. My symptoms started about 5 days after I restarted the bread.

I find this comforting, because before I was thinking "I did not know I hated my job that much! And why only this week?"
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Post by wahine » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:45 pm

OK. It’s Monday morning in spring where I live and I’m back. Taking a few years to lock in these habits....

B: porridge, frozen berries, banana, oat milk
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Post by Larkspur » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:14 am

How did the celiac testing come out?

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Post by wahine » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:01 pm

Larkspur wrote:How did the celiac testing come out?
Thanks Larkspur. I had the gene / HLA type like my brother (the gene is pretty common) but not the antibodies. Thank goodness. It would be so inconvenient for travelling!

First day was hard. Hunger felt intense, but then it goes away.

L: cooked “breakfast†at a cafe. Including mushrooms, spinach and tomato
D: crackers and cheese, salami, Apple, banana, grapes
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Post by automatedeating » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:10 am

Welcome back!
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Post by wahine » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:35 am

automatedeating wrote:Welcome back!
Thank you automatedeating :D

Today stuck to again. Streak of 2!

B: porridge fruit
L: potato and bean and veg curry, fruit
Resisted cake at work!
Dinner: Dahl, rice and potato dish
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Post by wahine » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:11 pm

Yesterday went ok. Streak of 3!

B: porridge fruit
L: leftover curry, silverbeet, fruit
D: crackers and dip, chips, hummus on toast, banana

Beautiful spring weather
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Post by wahine » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:23 am

Aargh! I came home from work early today to sort something out and now it’s 5pm, my partner who is on cooking Thursday nights won’t be home for at least an hour. This is extremely high risk for snacking. I have decided to drink tea and not try and do anything productive until dinner appears.

B: porridge fruit
L: bought sushi, apples from home
D: who knows???
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Post by oolala53 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:34 pm

Keep going! Whether anyone knows it or not, or feels it or not, it takes several years to get really solid with eating less. A lot of people don't know or accept that and give up way too soon. Just know that every day you stick to a decent eating pattern and reasonable amount of food for who you are right now, you are winning. Vow to keep racking those up until they are the default rather than the other way around.
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Post by wahine » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:23 am

oolala53 wrote:Keep going! Whether anyone knows it or not, or feels it or not, it takes several years to get really solid with eating less. A lot of people don't know or accept that and give up way too soon. Just know that every day you stick to a decent eating pattern and reasonable amount of food for who you are right now, you are winning. Vow to keep racking those up until they are the default rather than the other way around.
Thanks oolala. That would be so great if decent eating was the default.

Anyway I got through last night more or less. I did have a second helping.

Today
B: porridge fruit
L: felafel in pita, nuts, fresh fruit
D: fish and chips
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Post by wahine » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:21 am

S day today.

Extras were:

A snack bar someone had given me that I found in my bag - eaten alone
French crepe with white chocolate - eaten with company
Gin and tonic

Went for a bike 🚲 ride in the wind and got my 10th day in a row of exercise. Yay.
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Post by oolala53 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:35 pm

I think recording whether the extras were eaten alone or not is a good touch.
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Post by wahine » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:11 pm

Sunday extras
Chocolate, ice cream and caramel sauce - eaten with company
Fruit and almonds because I was starving while cooking dinner - eaten alone

Need to dig out the soda stream and keep fizzy water in the fridge. That seems to be the answer for the hour before dinner.

Daylight saving has just started. It is a dark and rainy Monday morning right now, but there is the promise of Long sunny evenings outside...
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Post by oolala53 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:41 am

I'm sending you a message on something you asked about because I am of the mind that it is far enough from the zeitgeist, if that's the right use of the word, of No S that I'd rather not bring much attention to it.
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Post by automatedeating » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:13 am

The hours between about 3pm and 6pm are the roughest for me! Even now, after 5 years! But if I take the time to acknowledge the hunger and then make myself a nice glass of tea, I'm usually fine. If I still remain truly hungry (and I can't tell you how I really decide it's true hunger, but I trust it more now than I used to), then I'll have a 1/2 cup of milk. That always does the trick and I know I'll be green for the day. :D
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Post by oolala53 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:26 am

I call those hours the witching hours, and they seem to be the tough ones for a lot of people. It doesn't matter for me what I've eaten for lunch. I can feel stuffed from lunch and will still want to nosh. Whatever it takes!
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Post by wahine » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:01 am

Successful Monday

B: muesli, banana
L: cafe with my 88 y old mother. Was a bit yuck - vegan hollandaise sauce with turmeric in it....
D: pumpkin salad, rice, chickpea and fig curry

Pre dinner I drank fizzy water.
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Post by wahine » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:07 am

Tuesday
B: Bircher muesli
L: chickpea curry and rice, mandarin

Mid afternoon had a sore throat and felt fluey. I ate the pear and Apple in my bag. I’m marking that as an S day. The rest of my family have been home sick with colds in the last week. On the other hand I think I could have found some miso soup sachets in my filing cabinet which would have been more noS.

D: falafel and salad in pita bread
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Post by wahine » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:47 am

Wednesday
B: Bircher muesli with boysenberries
L: cafeteria lunch x pasta + green beans
D: pasta again + peas and carrots . Had second helpings though so that’s a fail.

I still have a cold. :|
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Post by wahine » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:57 am

Thursday

B: porridge, boysenberries, kefir
L: toasted cheese and chutney sandwich, fruit
D: pasta, salad

Feeling worse with cold. Will try to come home early tomorrow
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Post by wahine » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:43 pm

Monday. Starting my 3rd week.

I’ve just been away for the weekend for a course. Live in, eat in.

I started to feel very headachey and ill on the Saturday and then realised it was caffeine withdrawal!! I was talking to a lady who gave up coffee tea and alcohol. I am tempted to start that. But I will be sensible and wait for a bit. Maybe I will start a record of how much coffee I drink. It is a pretty serious habit.
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Post by automatedeating » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:56 pm

LOL good on you for trying to give up coffee!! It is one of the joys of my life and it will be staying put. I consider it a health food, haha.

One thing for sure - don't try to give up coffee AND alcohol at the same time! Yikes!!!! That would make mornings and evenings tough. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by eschano » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:00 pm

I agree that the timing needs to be right. I gave up caffeine 3years ago when trying to get pregnant and the withdrawal was crazy. But I never went back on it and my husband gave it up with me and now he has some about twice a month when he needs and extra kick - he says that is probably how we are meant to use it: an occasional kick. But then again, there are way worse things than caffeine to be worrying about.
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Post by wahine » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:56 am

Monday

B: Porridge and blackberries

L: beans, veges, rice, fruit

D: peanut, vege, lentil soup, fruit

2 stovetop espressos and 1 bought coffee (large latte)
2 herbal teas...trying to think positively about herbal tea.

Yes I’ve given up coffee once on purpose and I was really ill. Another time I had pneumonia and as I was recovering I had terrible headaches etc. They thought I might have meningitis...once I worked out what was wrong I was too embarrassed to tell them. Just quietly drank a few coffees and got better. :roll: :wink: :roll:
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Post by Soprano » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:13 pm

Re the herbal tea, I struggle with that but found a yogi classic tea with cinnamon cardamon and ginger. You have to leave it a while to brew but I love it now, a real comfort drink.

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Post by automatedeating » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:14 pm

wahine wrote: once I worked out what was wrong I was too embarrassed to tell them. Just quietly drank a few coffees and got better. :roll: :wink: :roll:
Ha! That is so funny!
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Post by wahine » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:26 am

Tuesday
B: porridge blackberries
L: toasted cheese sandwich, 2 apples
D: minestrone soup and toast
After dinner snacks - banana, figs
2 plunger coffees and 2 instant coffees

So that’s a fail. Wasn’t satisfied after dinner and ate standing up without thinking while I did the dishes. Still on a streak with the no sugar anyway.
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Post by wahine » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:31 am

Soprano wrote:Re the herbal tea, I struggle with that but found a yogi classic tea with cinnamon cardamon and ginger. You have to leave it a while to brew but I love it now, a real comfort drink.

Jx
Thanks soprano. I think it’s probably mostly getting used to them. I think I’m going to like the spicy warm ones better than the grassy or fruity ones. I’ll look out for your one.
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Post by oolala53 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:49 pm

Coffee is controversial. Not everyone regards it as a health detractor. There were articles back in 2015 and 2017 that showed correlations with drinking a few cups a day to longevity. But it depends on how you feel it affects you. And I agree that unless you know it's a hazard for you, don't try to unhook from too much at one time.

Hang in there!
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Post by TexArk » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:08 pm

Just to add a thought and more confusion to the coffee discussion. I have an autoimmune liver disease and the specialists say that coffee is good for your liver and to be careful with herbal teas. On almost any food/drink you can find opposing views and studies!
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Post by wahine » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:01 am

So I don’t have strong feelings for or against coffee. But it seems bad that I got physically ill from withdrawal just because I spent a weekend in a place that only had instant. So I aim to reduce my dependence at some time in the future.

Texark interesting about the herbal teas. I only want them for the warm wetness not the herbs. Perhaps I will end up on hot water when I’ve had my quota of coffee for the day.

Anyway slight fail today as I had second helping of dinner.

B: porridge blackberries banana
L: cheese and crackers, baked beans
D: salad, pasta, mandarin
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Post by wahine » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:35 am

Thursday
B: porridge blackberries
L: tinned spaghetti on toast, dates
D: salad, risotto , banana

2 plunger coffees, 3 instants and a decaf ...getting towards the end of the week
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Post by wahine » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:56 am

Friday
B: porridge blackberries banana
L: chickpea curry & veges
D: platter, lamb stew, bulgur wheat, salad

So that’s a fail on the seconds again because 2 courses at the restaurant.

But have completed 21 days of no sugar (except on weekends )
:)

Only one fail for snacks in these first three weeks. Seconds I have not yet mastered but I’m sure I’ll get there.

3 plunger coffees, one bought coffee and I think an instant as well.
Kate

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Post by oolala53 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:42 pm

I bet three weeks of no sugar (which is even stricter than the rules ask for) is a BIG victory. It was for me just not to have sweets. But a blessed one. I aspire to keep to it indefinitely.
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Post by automatedeating » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:00 am

Wow - congrats on the 3 weeks of No Sugar!!
I guess I don't eat sugar on N Days at all. Not really since January except for little blips when I go crazy. :roll:
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Post by wahine » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:31 am

oolala53 wrote:I bet three weeks of no sugar (which is even stricter than the rules ask for) is a BIG victory. It was for me just not to have sweets. But a blessed one. I aspire to keep to it indefinitely.
Just to be clear, I only followed the rules. 5 days with no sugar, then 2 days of sugar if I wanted, x3. But I’m still very pleased with myself. Thank you both for the encouragement. Now to get the same consistency with snacks and seconds...
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Post by wahine » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:33 pm

Monday
B: porridge fruit
L: black beans, veges, crepe, rice
D: peanut and carrot soup, black bean and vege stew, rice, asparagus,2 pieces of fruit

3 plunger coffees 1 bought coffee

I find it hard to stop eating at dinner. Last night I wanted ice cream so I had fruit. Also our family has the food in the middle and we all have several helpings. The easiest would be to get up but I want to stay and talk. Tonight I’ll try getting a hot drink as soon as I have had one plateful.

How do others count the soup or salad before main scenario?
Kate

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Post by oolala53 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:21 pm

I put my salad on my plate. If I were to put it in a bowl, I would leave a space on the plate for it. I put small soup bowls on the plate, too. I can always take it off to eat. But I leave the space for it unfilled. This means for most of my lunches and dinners, only about half the plate has proteins and starch on it.
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Post by automatedeating » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:18 pm

So neat that you stay and talk at the table!!! Wow!!!! Can you remind me of your kids' ages? Do you have other neat ideas for family dinners?

Re: salad, I've started putting the salad on the plate, like Oolala does, or the whole meal is a "bowl" meal (like tonight's will be, actually). I've started adding the protein (beef, salmon, or tuna) to my salads, to make the salad the main dish.
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Post by wahine » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:38 am

automatedeating wrote:So neat that you stay and talk at the table!!! Wow!!!! Can you remind me of your kids' ages? Do you have other neat ideas for family dinners .
Automatedeating I don’t think it’s as idyllic as you are imagining! Only one left at home now and he is 16. Tonight we were hanging around after dinner basically doing competitive googling for an argument. Meanwhile I extended my meal by two pieces of fruit again.

The boys have had a cooking night each per week from 10 y on. This worked better with the older one. With the younger, he got discouraged because his older brother was critical of his cooking. 14 y olds are mean. He got kinder at about 17. But you know, every family is different and you already have heaps of systems for your own family.

B: porridge blackberries
L: cheese toasted sandwich, pear
D: Dahl, rice, chutney, banana, apple
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Post by wahine » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:14 am

Wednesday
B: porridge blackberries
L: filo spinach pie, random sandwiches from a function, fruit
D: celery, cucumber tomatoes hummus, chips

Snack: Some samosa
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Post by wahine » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:02 am

First real success in no seconds for a few days. Hurray!

B: porridge blackberries
L: pizza, cheese,banana
D: chicken, salad
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Post by automatedeating » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:02 pm

Yay! And S Days will be here before we know it!
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Post by wahine » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:11 pm

Friday
B: porridge, boysenberries
L: sushi, wedges
D: gnocchi, mushrooms

Now it’s Saturday morning. I’m a bit disappointed in my lack of vegetables yesterday. I did stick to the rules technically. Very tempted to aim for launch and dinner half veggies. Is that a mod? Maybe not if it’s not a strict rule?

Anyway happy weekend all.
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Post by automatedeating » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:07 pm

I think adding in your veggies would be technically considered a mod. And so you might decide if you think it would too many "willpower" muscles to work out, which might derail your other green days. It took me 5 years to change what was on the plate; but then again, I was pretty stubborn....
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Post by oolala53 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:52 pm

I put the veggie addition would under the "intelligent dietary default" category. It's really what most slim cultures do. They have set courses of meals that are made of similar building blocks. The portions are relatively se, too, as is the balance of light and heavy. I think it's a reasonable evolution in the system, if one is ready for it. But if you find yourself stressing over it, and you have no medical reason to be more careful, I think it's best to keep the success guidelines wide, meaning it's still a success if your plate is mostly dense foods.

You could keep a separate habitcal for veggies.
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Re: Kate's daily check-in

Post by wahine » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:59 pm

5 years later and back again. This regime is so sensible, wish I’d stuck with it.

Anyway better late than never.

All that time at home with covid and now still a lot of working from home means I tend to graze all day which hasn’t been good for my constitution!
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Re: Kate's daily check-in

Post by wahine » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:04 pm

Day 2.

Yesterday was actually Sunday :D
I did notice afterwards I had a second helping of dinner with no thought at all.
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Re: Kate's daily check-in

Post by wahine » Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:16 pm

Day 3.I had a successful noS day on Monday, despite my OH bringing home and eating a packet of chocolate biscuits. Yay me.
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Re: Kate's daily check-in

Post by wahine » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:42 pm

I had a successful Tuesday. It’s definitely difficult to be even a bit hungry at home with all that food around, but that’s why I need rules!
Kate

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Re: Kate's daily check-in

Post by wahine » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:10 pm

Saturday morning now!

I got through my first week. Except Friday night we were in weekend mode and ate our dinner in front of the tv with wine. I ate 2 pieces of fruit after dinner was officially finished. So that was a fail, but I don’t feel too bad about it.
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Re: Kate's daily check-in

Post by ladybird30 » Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:14 am

Looks like you had a pretty good week overall, well done.
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Re: Kate's daily check-in

Post by wahine » Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:00 pm

Thanks ladybird!

This week so far Monday was good. Tuesday I went a little off the rails. It doesn’t take much stress/disruption before I am comfort eating. Aiming for a green day today.
Kate

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Re: Kate's daily check-in

Post by ladybird30 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:03 am

It took me a lot of practice, and longer than one would think, before I stopped comfort eating, but I got there eventually. Well done for keeping on going afterwards.
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Re: Kate's daily check-in

Post by Soprano » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:31 am

I still comfort eat from time to time but what I eat now is much better and more controlled :)

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