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ceo418



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Location: Plainsboro, NJ

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did finally take some of the candies out yesterday to enjoy for an S- day, and the wait was worth it. Friday night we went out for dinner and I was considering dessert despite an N- day, but ended up deciding to not feel overfull and not turn the day red.

I've never had a root canal done so I'll see how it goes. Hopefully it won't be too bad of an experience (except for the hit to my wallet!).

Saturday S- day:
Breakfast: scrambled eggs, toast, banana
Lunch: two cut up hot dogs, ramen, carrots
Dessert: 2 pieces of chocolate, 2 cookies
Snack: a few pieces of chocolate over the course of the afternoon
Dinner: two slices of pizza, bread sticks
Dessert: cookie

I actually had 2 cookies and more chocolate planned for dessert after dinner, but decided I really didn't want the rest. Instead I did an aerobic workout (Have I mentioned that I love Leslie Sansone videos?) and that was the end of eating for the night.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ceo (love your name),

Wow, it's been awhile since I've done a Leslie Sansome video- they are great! What a good reminder that I do have an opportunity to walk, even now that winter is upon us!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said, I've had many root canals done and this I can say: unless you now have an infection, any discomfort and pain you may experience is WAY less than you would have eventually if you let the situation continue. Inuits committed suicide over tooth pain after whites from the lower 40 brought sugar, flour- and tooth decay. I might have considered it, if I had been in the same situation. Mine just went on for about a month, when my dental discount policy could kick in. I paid a lot, too. But the alternative...

Besides a bit of sting from the shot, mine didn't. It just takes a long time, you feel a lot of pressure, and you hear a lot of noise. But I'm always grateful dentists can take care of the problem!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Worth It. They're actually my initials! Smile

Thanks, Oolala. It's nice to have some reassurance.

Sunday S-day:
Breakfast: raisin bran, milk, banana
Snack: two donut holes while waiting to get my cat's picture taken with Santa Claus
Lunch: 2 slices leftover pizza, diet pepsi, baby carrots
Dessert: 2 pieces of chocolate, 2 cookies
Dinner: vegetable soup, corn muffins, diet pepsi
dessert: 2 cookies, assorted chocolates

Like Saturday night, I eventually just put some of the chocolates I had planned to eat back in the dish, where they will now stay until Saturday. I was feeling lazy most of the day and watched football and napped, but did get some housework in and worked out again. Even though sometimes I have to sternly tell myself I should do it, I don't think I've ever really regretted doing one of the aerobics videos, even one of the shorter ones. It just makes me feel better.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday became a red day. I didn't get a lot of sleep Sunday night, and on Monday I was tired all morning. I went to the doctor and weighed in at 201, which just shocked me given how good I had been feeling and how my clothes still fit well. Then I started reasoning out the fact that I was wearing layers of clothing, it was afternoon after two meals, and an impending time of the month, and decided it wasn't as bad as I thought it was. On December 1st I weighed 191. This morning when I was on the scale at home it read 195, which sounded more reasonable than the 201 from yesterday. Actually, that's what I weighed around this time of the month in November...a pattern, perhaps? We'll see after things calm down with my body next week.

I set a current goal for myself of 170. That's what I'll need to be at to be out of the "obese" BMI range and in the "overweight" BMI range. It doesn't seem to far off, considering when I first started No-S I actually saw the scale read 179 at one point. I guess I really need to be honest with myself and figure out what I can do to start the scale moving down again. I don't want to buy physically smaller plates, but I can definitely control what goes on the plates I do have. I've gotten better at listening to myself when I get full, but I do still have a lot of times when I think maybe I shouldn't have eaten so much. Maybe some of the weight gain is from living with someone else, someone who doesn't eat leftovers? Sometimes I feel like I have to eat more at meals so I'm not constantly squirreling food in the freezer for a future time. I need to change that mindset, and make it okay to throw away some food if I'm not going to eat it in the next few days.

So it was a failure yesterday, but not WTH. I think I've actually learned some control when I decide to do something that will make the day red. I had 2 sugar cookies, 2 mini peanut butter cups, and 4 Hershey's miniature bars. I can't say I felt better after eating them, but I also didn't feel like the world was going to crash in on me. I got some blood work done this morning to check on a few things, although my new doctor (same clinic, but my former doctor left) didn't test for cholesterol because she said my results last year were good, and my blood pressure was better than hers, so there was no reason to check it. So at least I can feel good about that!

I don't often like to bring up my actual weight on here, but I figured if I was going to confess to a failure, I might as well bring up the "why" behind it. On New Year's Day of this year I saw 190 on the scale and nearly cried, vowing that it would be different this coming New Year. And it probably will be, just not in the direction I'd like to go. But I have to keep thinking back to my successes in those first weeks on No-S and figure out what I was doing so well. I love the sanity of three meals a day with no snacks in between, and I am going to keep to it! This is the first time that I can remember where I feel like I have at least some control over my eating habits most of the time, and I want to keep that up for the rest of my life.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ceo418 wrote:
I love the sanity of three meals a day with no snacks in between, and I am going to keep to it! This is the first time that I can remember where I feel like I have at least some control over my eating habits most of the time, and I want to keep that up for the rest of my life.


Good for you! Setbacks are always rough, but I love that your attitude here, and hope better days are ahead.
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28.5 lbs. down, 34.5 to go. Slow and steady wins the race.

"...slim cultures...value not overeating. They don't eat more of a food just because it's good. They enjoy the food more."--Oolala
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probably weren't doing anything that differently. You were on the honeymoon. Also the principle of the hedonic treadmill will kick in when the novelty wears off. And the habit will not usually go down without a fight. It will create thoughts and sensations that convince us to go off the path. The habit really believes it's saving us!

We can save ourselves.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi CEO,

Wanted to check in on you and say hi. For me, the scale is EXTREMELY triggering, so I commend you for not having the dr's weigh-in turn into a WTH day.

I am a recent return"ee" back to No S after a year away having tried many other diets, etc. I am probably about 10lbs heavier and "wish" I had just stayed with it instead of leaving.

Anyway, the good news is that you are still here and still plugging away- I will continue to draw strength from you and everyone that continues on with the journey, even when the going gets tough!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice green day yesterday after what felt like a wild two S-days.

I have been contemplating trying another mod, but I don't really feel like saying much about it until I've put it into practice. I'm enjoying N-days for the moment and realizing that my main problem has been S-days. So, I'll go ahead and commit to the mod for a month, actually starting yesterday, and I'll post about whether I feel it's a success or not sometime in mid-January.

The company is giving us breakfast on Thursday, but it's at an odd time for me. Last year all I had was part of a bagel and some orange juice, but I think this year I am going to have some fruit for breakfast at my usual time and then go down around 9 to get the food and bring it back to my desk. It's going to be busy and crowded in the cafeteria and I don't feel like pushing through people to find a seat. I might as well take advantage of one of the few free things the company does for us, though!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great virtual plate idea
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah ha- it was you who I was talking with about the Leslie Sansome videos! She just keeps coming up on our threads and I think she is great-surprisingly harder work than I remembered. Anyway, just remembered that it was you, so thought I'd stop by to "dish".

Hope you are having a Happy N Day today!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had several failures this week. I can't even excuse it, they were just moments of "I don't care" and other emotional reasons. My root canal went fine on Friday, although my meal times were off and I compensated with ice cream that night.

Saturday S- day:
Breakfast: 2 donuts, banana
Lunch: hot dog, ramen, piece of fudge
Dinner at Bahama breeze: shared onion rings, cheeseburger, fries
Dessert: piece of fudge, eggnog Ghirardelli square, mint Lindor truffle, chocolate cookie

I got my employee breakfast on Thursday, but if they do it again next year I will probably just have my normal breakfast and do a snack type thing again. It really threw off my schedule and led to more snacking Thursday night.

So this holiday season is not going well so far, but at least I've not given up. I'm still going to give my mod a try and see how it goes for a month. I still have plenty of this month left to stay on track and Christmas Eve and Christmas Day to get through with the habits. 😊
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Floundering here, too. Boy, that opportunistic tendency is powerful! But it's not insurmountable, I have to believe.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 pounds down at the doctor's office, in nearly identical circumstances. That was a nice feeling.

Sunday S- day:
Breakfast: Golden Grahams, milk, banana
Lunch: turkey sandwich, pretzels, Orange
Dessert: 2 cookies
Dinner: General Tso's chicken, lo mein, egg roll, diet coke
Dessert: 2 cookies, egg nog, lots of chocolate

Monday:
Breakfast: honey nut Chex, milk
Lunch: peanut butter sandwich, Orange
Dinner: macaroni and cheese, hot dogs, salad
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ceo418 wrote:
2 pounds down at the doctor's office, in nearly identical circumstances. That was a nice feeling.

Sunday S- day:
Breakfast: Golden Grahams, milk, banana
Lunch: turkey sandwich, pretzels, Orange
Dessert: 2 cookies
Dinner: General Tso's chicken, lo mein, egg roll, diet coke
Dessert: 2 cookies, egg nog, lots of chocolate

Monday:
Breakfast: honey nut Chex, milk
Lunch: peanut butter sandwich, Orange
Dinner: macaroni and cheese, hot dogs, salad


congrats on the two pounds down, that is if your goal is to lose weight. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooo, eggnog. I'd forgotten about it. Will take some to at least one event this weekend.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think this weekend went well. I had a nice breakfast and a small lunch on Saturday, worked out for an hour, then enjoyed a decadent dinner out. I felt slightly stuffed, but it was more the wine that got to me.

Today my boyfriend and I opened presents, then while he went back to bed I worked out and had a few chocolates. Then we went to his parents house where I had a plate of appetizers, then had some beef and sides. I had seconds on the sides, and limited my dessert to a piece of cake and a cookie. I felt a little overfull, but it was not as bad as previous holidays.

I haven't even been tempted to eat since we got home, and tomorrow I'm sending leftover cookies and sweets to my boyfriend's work. Then it's back to N days while I make a plan for New Year's Eve.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool very cool
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday was a good N day. My breakfast was two small cinnamon rolls with sausage and fruit, but it was on one plate and I wanted to finish the rolls. I had a Subway sandwich with chips for lunch, and my boyfriend and I ate Hamburger helper with bread and salad for dinner. I had one glass of wine before dinner, and only tea to drink afterwards. It felt good to not have anything overly sweet. (The cinnamon rolls were borderline, but since that wasn't all I ate I'm not going to mark it as a red).

This week will actually be a good time to put the mod that I've been thinking about into action, so we'll see how it goes. I've already noticed that the idea of buying discount Christmas candy is not appealing. The only item I might try to get is a bag of Hershey's kisses, so I can make those peanut blossom cookies. I didn't get to those during the holidays, but I could probably make some to freeze and have on S-days in the next couple of months.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had oatmeal for breakfast the past couple of mornings, and yesterday I didn't get as hungry as I usually do midway through the morning, although I was definitely ready to eat by lunchtime. This morning I mixed it with a bit of milk and some peanut butter, and then had a banana separately. It all tasted good, was easy to fix in the microwave, and filled me up. I think I might try that every work day next week (I have Monday off for the holiday) and see how it goes.

I think we're going to dinner at the Cheesecake Factory tomorrow evening. I'm already looking forward to it. I've tried several of their cheesecakes, and definitely have a couple of favorites. I also like their Chinese Chicken Salad, although the portion is often too large for me and salad is something I don't like to take home with me because it never tastes or looks as appealing the next day. I could always try something different, because their menu is huge!

I'll weigh myself tomorrow morning and then not do it again until the end of January. Whatever the number is, I'm not going to beat myself up. I may have gained some weight according to the scale this year, but I still fit comfortably into my clothes and I'm still exercising regularly.

Something I need to work on in the New Year is S-days. N-days, too, especially after these past couple of months, but I really need to start going in the direction of "sometimes" on S-days. I know it's important to realize that I can have any treat I want, but I think it would also be good in the long run for me to realize that I've had a lot of treats in the past, and I can wait to have a particular one again.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the book at one point, Reinhard says eventually S days will look very much like N days with probably only one exception per weekend. Even after seven years, I'm not there! But I always assume it's because I'm single and have little routine on weekends in general, never mind with meals.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My scale at home read 189 this morning, so I will start the new year 1 pound down from last year. I'm satisfied with that given some of the weights I saw in the past couple of months. I'll try to only step on the scale monthly, to keep track of my progress in that area.

Happy New Year!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that you didn't gain is impressive, since it's so common for people, even more so the already-overweight/obese, to gain weight as time goes on. Halting that is progress!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's very cool that your mid morning appetite surges have decreased. Your body, adjusting to the new order Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S- days:

Saturday:
Breakfast: 2 small cinnamon rolls, 4 sausage links, banana
Lunch: leftover pizza, veggies
Snack: cookie, 2 pieces of chocolate
Dinner: Chinese chicken salad, bread, Oreo cheesecake
Snack: 2 chocolates

Sunday:
Breakfast: honey nut Chex, Orange
Lunch: ramen, veggies
Snack: 3 cookies after lunch, 2 freshly baked cookies mid- afternoon
Dinner: hamburger helper, garlic bread, salad
Will have for dessert: peppermint ice cream
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S-days:

Saturday:
Breakfast: eggs, toast, banana
Lunch: summer sausage, cheese, crackers, cucumbers
Dessert: cookies
Dinner: personal pizza, salad
Dessert: ice cream

Sunday:
Breakfast: cereal, milk, sweet roll
Lunch: sesame chicken, rice, egg roll
Dessert: 2 pieces of chocolate
Dinner: steak, salad, bread
Dessert: cookies

Not a bad weekend at all, S-wise. It snowed here all day Saturday and on Sunday I made a small snowman on our balcony. I almost sacrificed some Hershey's kisses for the mouth but decided that orange slices would stick better instead. It will probably be gone by mid-week since it's supposed to be almost 60 by Thursday, but it was fun to do.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I adjusted my work hours starting this week, so instead of starting at 7:00 I start at 7:30. This means I'm now eating breakfast almost 45 minutes later, and that seems to be making a difference in my mornings. I still have to push through some hunger as lunch gets closer, but mentally having six hours rather than almost seven hours in between breakfast and lunch seems to be working well for me. I just enjoy my tea throughout the morning and enjoy my lunch!

I'm not really tempted by any of the Valentine's day candy that is now in the stores. Part of that might be that I still have quite a bit of chocolate still in the cupboard from the holidays. I'm also trying to look ahead to the Easter season, so I'm planning to skip most of the Valentine stuff (except maybe a small box of those candy hearts) and wait for the Cadbury eggs and chocolate bunnies to appear!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S-days:

Saturday:

Breakfast: donuts, banana, tea
Lunch: cup o noodles, pretzels, cheese
Dessert: cookie
Dinner at TGI Fridays: shared chips and salsa and pot stickers, bacon cheeseburger, fries
dessert: a few pieces of chocolate

Sunday:
Breakfast: peanut butter toast, apple
Lunch: tuna casserole, peas
Dessert: cookie
Dinner at Red Robin: shared small order of onion rings, chicken tenders, fries
Dessert: mudd pie

All in all, not a bad weekend. Definitely calmer than other recent times. I wasn't overly stuffed either day and I didn't eat anything after dinner on Sunday night. I woke up nice and hungry this morning!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ceo418 wrote:
I start at 7:30. This means I'm now eating breakfast almost 45 minutes later, and that seems to be making a difference in my mornings

Sounds like your schedule is working well for you. That's great!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S-days:

Saturday:
Breakfast: 2 slices toast with butter and jelly, banana
Lunch: hot dogs, ramen, peas
Dessert: cookie
Snack: 3 fun size candy bars
Dinner at Applebee's: shared mozzarella sticks, sirloin stir fry, apple chimi cheesecake for dessert

Sunday:
Breakfast: golden grahams, milk, banana
Lunch: soup, crackers
Dessert: cookie
Snack: peanut butter M&Ms, regular M&Ms
Dinner: orange chicken from the slow cooker, rice, salad
Dessert: chocolate and marshmallow swirl ice cream

I've pretty much settled back into the routine of just having cereal and fruit for breakfast. It tastes good to me, I enjoy not having something too overwhelming in the morning, and it gets me through most of the morning at work. Occasionally I'll switch to some toast and peanut butter or buy a breakfast sandwich on the way to work, but cereal is it most mornings.

Sunday was a little heavier than I'd like S-days to be, but we ate dinner unusually early so I wanted the ice cream to help with my appetite. And of course, you can't do S-days wrong! I never felt overstuffed on either S-day, so that's a good sign.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After some red days and continued wild S- days, I think it's time to set some limits. I will continue to work on getting my N- days back in line. And after reading the "S- days gone wild" podcast I am going to set some limits on weekend S- days. I will have up to two S- events each weekend day. Holidays and birthdays will still be free and more relaxed but I feel that limits will help me on weekends. I need to get my weight moving down. And I'm tired of feeling out of control on Saturdays and Sundays.

I've been doing well with getting exercise, though. And I am taking Valentine's Day as an S- day.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being tired of the overeating was my main motivation to reduce wild days. They never went away on their own. It wasn't suddenly easy, though. I had to white knuckle it a lot because the body still sent me signals to eat.(This stilll happens, but I can't blame it on No S. Just have a hard time filling my time.) But I am never sorry when I just wait for my next meal.

And the memory of the experience of green N days really helps, but you need to have them to look back on them for strength when the time comes... in case you need a little more incentive.
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There is no S better than Vanilla No S.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valentine's Day was a nice relaxed S-day for me. I had most of a Hershey bar at work (actually threw away the last few pieces because it felt too sweet) and some small cookies after lunch. I snacked on some tortilla chips while waiting for my boyfriend to get home so I could make dinner, and then we had tacos (we went out for a nice dinner Monday night instead of last night). A little bit later we had some red velvet cake and I also had a couple of mint chocolates.

I'm looking forward to limiting my treats this weekend. Limiting it to 2 S's each day will make me think harder about what I really want to eat. And with a full-on S-day for the holiday yesterday, I'm not feeling the need for anything outside of my three meals right now.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My S-days went well with the new mod. On Saturday I had a mid-afternoon snack of a couple of cookies and some mini chocolates, then had a few more cookies as dessert after dinner. On Sunday I had a nice single-serving piece of cake that I bought from the store for dessert after lunch, then had some chocolates after dinner while watching TV. I didn't feel overstuffed and planning the treats out helped me to enjoy them. On to a week of N-days!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My S-days went well with the new mod. On Saturday I had a mid-afternoon snack of a couple of cookies and some mini chocolates, then had a few more cookies as dessert after dinner. On Sunday I had a nice single-serving piece of cake that I bought from the store for dessert after lunch, then had some chocolates after dinner while watching TV. I didn't feel overstuffed and planning the treats out helped me to enjoy them. On to a week of N-days!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curious to know what the S days were like before. (My early ones started with syrup-drenched pancakes and were a chocolate-and-carb all day fest for a loooong time.) Was it a lot of snacking?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I felt was the main problem was the "It's an S-day so I'll just grab something any time I want" mentality. For example, I'd have lunch and end with a dessert of some type, then go back and get some more snack-type foods, then have dinner and probably a dessert and maybe some more snack-type items. Small stuff, but enough that in recent months I've come close to not feeling well by the end of the weekend. So I decided it was time to try limiting the opportunities. For example, on Saturday I probably had about half the cookies/chocolates I'd normally have, but they were at two discrete times and I sat down to enjoy them instead of grabbing a couple of cookies here and there. Same thing on Sunday. It was gratifying to practice some self-control while still enjoying my treats. That's where I'd like my S-days to be.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

S days were never supposed to me we would permanently eat just because we could. I needed a lot of lessons in this. I felt unwell countless times! But I kept hoping the desire would just go away on its own. It didn't. I finally instituted mods, though you got uncomfortable AND fed up much sooner than I did. Good for you. It's so surprising that the desire for food doesn't necessarily go away just because we know we don't need more and will likely suffer if we have more. And the capacity to nibble is elastic for most of us. It used to be an evolutionary advantage!

It sounds like things are progressing nicely. Sweet!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided that I am giving up fried/crispy chicken for Lent this year. As I really enjoy it (one of my favorite dishes is sweet and sour chicken) I think that's a good sacrifice, but one that is also gentle. I can have grilled or roasted chicken, but not anything with that fried coating on it. I think this will truly be a challenge for me!

A bit of a red yesterday as I had a chocolate Cadbury egg after dinner. I mainly kept to the 2 S-events per day this last weekend, although I did also have about 7 little pretzels and a few jelly beans before going out to dinner on Sunday. But you can't fail on S-days, and otherwise it was calm.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giving up the fried food sounds reasonable. Offering it up for Lent should help dispel feelings of resentment. No one is making you do this and you're not asking for anything back.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a red day yesterday. My Dad sent me some of the S'mores Girl Scout cookies that are being sold where he lives, which are a different kind from the ones being sold out here. I didn't want to wait for the weekend to taste them, so I opened the box and had two cookies. They were delicious, even better than the ones out here, and I put the rest away for future S-days. Of course, now I hope to find more of the kind he sent when a different council out here opens up their sales. (Having been involved in Girl Scouting in one way or another for roughly 33 years, I keep track of the local councils and what they're doing). Smile

I had a good S-weekend. Again, I stuck to the two S-events each day with a few pretzels as an extra S. I was craving ice cream on Sunday, so I went out and bought a package of Klondike ice cream sandwiches. Smaller items like that tend to work better for me, as I'm not opening a carton of ice cream and then leaving it to sit for a week in the freezer. It's easier to resist temptation when you know each ice cream sandwich is in its own package and not getting iced over or anything like that.

We had a carbon monoxide leak at work on Friday. It was out in the warehouse. The office portion I work in was actually built into the warehouse for the company, and has its own separate heating/cooling system, although doors are opened and closed often enough that air from the warehouse could very well get in here. So the building was evacuated and I ended up outside with only my jacket and keys, no purse or wallet. Several people were taken to the hospital (although we were told yesterday that they're all recovering well). One of my co-workers let me use my phone to call my boyfriend for a ride home, but luckily the building was safe enough to re-enter in time for me to go in and get my stuff, then get back out and let him know I could drive myself home before he made it all the way there. It was kind of a nerve-wracking experience as we weren't told much about what was going on and those of us who weren't ill were corralled into a smaller empty warehouse behind the main building and held there until it was deemed safe to go back in. We could see all the emergency vehicles and people being assessed for their health, but very little info came from the people in charge at our company.

So my boyfriend and I ended up going out for dinner because I didn't feel like cooking. We went to TGIFridays, and while we shared an appetizer I didn't count it as red because the two pot stickers could have fit on the plate with my cheeseburger and fries. I didn't order dessert, and I didn't have anything outside of the three meals, so it was still a green day. Good for me on a personal note, I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, after two years on NoS, I think I am going to try yet another mod. Like a previous time, I don't want to say too much about it, but I am committing to it until Easter to see how it goes. I've been strong about not having any fried/crispy chicken during Lent, even though I was very tempted to order a chicken tenders platter at a restaurant last Friday evening. I honestly didn't think that I'd miss it as much as I do. I'll be looking forward to some sweet and sour chicken in April, for sure!

We had our health screens done here at work last week. According to the scales they used I am five pounds down from my doctor's visit in December, so I am happy about that. I feel like I've lost maybe more than that, but the scale at home always puts me at the same weight. Maybe it's just time for a newer scale, since I've had this one for quite some time. And the rest of my numbers all fell within the normal ranges (good blood pressure, good cholesterol, good fasting glucose) so I can take that with me, at least.

I'm going to be going on a cruise in July. My dad and his wife are taking me and my boyfriend and my brother and his family on an Alaskan cruise! I'm excited, but I'm also already a little nervous about all the eating opportunities. I don't know if I should already be deciding on a plan now, but I think I'd just like to keep it to three meals and maybe a special snack for most of the days. If I see something worth trying, I don't want to pass it up, but I also don't want to get entirely too off habit. I know that it won't make me feel good to eat too much, along with the fact that I've never been on a cruise before and I don't know how much my motion sickness will kick in. It's mostly planes and small boats (and some amusement park rides) that I have problems with, and I'm hoping the sheer size of the ship will help.

So, on to a mod that I think will help me, especially with the still wild S days that I can't seem to shake. Overall, I still believe that No-S has really helped me change my eating habits. I think about the times (now pretty far in the past) where I'd have three or four of those extra-large Hershey bars a week, pile seconds onto my plate, and snack quite often. A lot of memories are associated with food, and sometimes now my mind just goes "yuck" when I think about how much I used to eat. I actually stopped quite a bit of it even before No-S, but putting the habits into play really helped a lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been doing my mod for a week now and I think it worked very well. Simply put, I'm trying something similar to what other people on the board have done. I'm still not having seconds or snacks. I'm eating 3 meals a day, and including a small sweet thing if I want it. I think keeping the strictness of no snacks and no seconds while allowing that bit of sweets really kept me on track this past week. I didn't have a sweet every day, but when I did it fit on my plate.

However, I still have S days on which all those rules will be relaxed. Those will be holidays and birthdays that I spend with people as they celebrate. I might occasionally add other S-days, as people doing vanilla will have NWS days, but for the most part it's 3 one-plate meals 7 days a week. I was able to keep to that even over the weekend, although Sunday afternoon became challenging. I like the feeling of being able to keep some strictness in my habits while being a little flexible.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great job making modified NoS work for you! Getting to the point where it comfortably fits in with your way of life is what it's all about! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had another good week. 3 meals a day, with one planned S day where I didn't go too crazy at all. The weekend was a little challenging at times when I wanted to snack in between lunch and dinner, but I held strong. Being able to have a sweet with the meal helped. I also exercised both weekend days. I feel like this is a sort of 21-day challenge for me in keeping to the three meals a day all week, but I'm looking forward to keeping this going until Easter and evaluating how I do.
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Well done!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ceo418 wrote:
I feel like this is a sort of 21-day challenge for me in keeping to the three meals a day all week, but I'm looking forward to keeping this going until Easter and evaluating how I do.

Good for you! I committed myself to small plates for a time since Jan, then in Feb, I added the small sweet to cut down on my wild S-days. It's three months now and still going well.

I wish you well with your No S
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I had a red day on Friday and one on Monday. I think Friday was just one of those "I'm going to have what I want when I want it" days that still happen despite two years on No-S, but it was still kind of tame compared to what I would have done in the past. I had one candy bar during the afternoon and some pretzels while I was waiting for a late dinner. On Monday I donated blood, and while I would not normally consider the two snacks I eat afterwards to be a red, I ended up eating more after dinner. Again, not horrible, but not great, either.

This coming weekend/early next week will be Easter, my boyfriend's birthday, and my birthday, all in row. (Yes, somehow I ended up dating someone whose birthday is the day before mine.) Since I am doing a mod allowing sweets with meals, but only three meals a day all week, Easter and the birthdays are part of the few actual S-days that I am allowing myself. I don't plan to eat ALL the chocolate on Easter, but I will allow for snacking and seconds when we're with his family and through the day. (I'll also work out that morning as usual on weekends). On my boyfriend's birthday probably the only S will be dinner out at Joe's Crab Shack (their chocolate s'mores cake dessert is wonderful). And on my birthday the rules will once again be relaxed, but I don't anticipate a lot of eating beyond meals. Maybe some treats at work and a special dessert at home, but we're going out the weekend after to celebrate.

So some delightful S-days coming up, but I'm looking forward to moderate treats and feeling good after eating. I don't want to be overfull any more. That kind of eating doesn't appeal to me. It's amazing how the one-plate rule sticks with me now, and even the mod of not having seconds or snacks on weekends seems to be going well. I'm still trying for a full 21 green days with that, but my failures have been small. And I seem to have lost about three pounds since doing No-S this way.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I stopped doing No-S in April to try intuitive eating again. I am already tired of trying to figure out how hungry I am and what my body really wants to eat. I am starting over tomorrow with 21 days of Vanilla No-S, because this really is the way I want to eat for the rest of my life. I just got back from a cruise and finally noticed how the weight has been sneaking up on me. I went back to my old habits of making sure I had snacks in my drawer at work, and of course indulged in all the goodies that were brought in. I'm getting tired of sweets and know I need some boundaries around my behavior towards food.

One good thing is that on the cruise I mainly stuck to three meals, although dinner always included an appetizer and dessert. That format really appeals to me. I want to lose the weight that's been on me for most of my life.

I do know that I need to be strict with myself and seriously think about what should be considered a special non-weekend day. I'm ready to start this over again and make some changes to my life.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nearly three days into my restart, so far, and it's going well. The past two days have been work anniversaries for other people in my department so we've gotten e-mails about how there are treats nearby to enjoy. I looked in at them, but honestly wasn't even tempted. Maybe I'm still too tired of recent sweets binges (especially those chocolate filled breakfast pastries on the cruise! So good!) and that helps somewhat. I'm trying to decide if I want to actually plan a treat for this weekend or just go ahead and take the days as they come. Either way, I'll be looking forward to the S days.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S-days:

Saturday:
Breakfast: cereal, apple
Lunch: taco meat, ramen, beans
Dessert: cookies
Dinner at Bahama Breeze: shared onion rings, most of Chicken Adobo bowl
Dessert: ice cream

Sunday:
Breakfast: cereal
Snack: cookie
Lunch: personal pizza, cucumbers
Dessert: cookies
Snack: peanut butter m&ms
Dinner: pork chop, rice, salad
Dessert: ice cream

I bought some chocolate bars for future S-days in case I feel like having them. Honestly, I've had wilder S-days in the past. The ice cream both days was one of those frozen cones you can buy in boxes at the grocery store and I really enjoyed them. I've realized once again that it's usually better for me to buy ice cream in some sort of pre-made form, because otherwise I'll just have way too much.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ceo418 wrote:
I've realized once again that it's usually better for me to buy ice cream in some sort of pre-made form, because otherwise I'll just have way too much.


I'm that way too! We've had klondike bars a few times lately, and I eat way less when I just have one of those rather than a "dish" of ice cream.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

S-days:

Saturday:
Breakfast: 2 donuts, tea
Lunch: taco salad, tortilla chips
Dessert: Twix bar
Snack: cookies
Dinner at TGI Fridays: shared appetizer, chicken fingers, fries

Sunday:
Breakfast: cereal, milk, apple
Lunch: sweet and sour chicken
Dessert: cookies
Dinner: chicken, spaghetti, salad
Dessert: ice cream sandwich

I think this weekend was more like how I'd want future S-days to be. Since restarting all my N-days have been green.

I've been walking around the parking lot at work on my breaks, as I've been doing for many years, and a few weeks ago I realized that I didn't like walking so fast that I'd end up sweaty for the rest of the day. Plus, my hip would sometimes start to hurt. So I've slowed down my pace and just enjoyed being outside and away from my desk, and I think it's made me happier. It also seems to be less stress on my body. I also started eating at my desk rather than going down to the cafeteria because I find that I usually want lunch a bit earlier than I was letting myself have it. So far that also seems to be working out.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This past Saturday was a really nice S-day.

Saturday:
Breakfast: lemon poppyseed muffin, grapes, tea
Lunch: leftover pizza
Snack: cookies
Dinner at Cheesecake Factory: bread, Skinnylicious Asian Chicken Salad, and Chocolate Mousse cheesecake.

Sunday:
Breakfast: lemon poppyseed muffin, milk
Lunch: leftover pizza
Dessert: M&Ms
Dinner: stirfry with chicken, veggies, and rice
Dessert: cookies

I did my in-home walking workouts both days and felt good about it. I'm facing my 40th birthday next April and would like to get some of this weight off before then. I've been overweight/obese for 30 years and I'd like to change my body. I know it's going to be slow, but I do have some motivation.
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August has been a mixed bag for me No-S wise. Most of my N-days were good. When I was on my trip in the middle of the month I had a few days where I meant to be strict and then just relaxed about it. I realize I'm not perfect and that those days were meant to be an exception. I went and donated blood yesterday and enjoyed two snacks there at the location. The day would have otherwise been green except that I decided to have some cookies later after dinner and I then marked it as red. I'll have many opportunities to improve my vanilla No-S through the next couple of months.

I'm really hoping to be more strict during the holiday season later this year. I feel like I gained several pounds around this time last year and really relaxed the rules for myself by trying a variety of mods during November, December, and January. I'm starting to come to the realization that I don't need as much food as I usually eat, and even when we go out to dinner now I always give the "sides" or "salad/soup" parts of the menu serious consideration before picking out something else. Part of me sometimes just gets overwhelmed at the amount of food I've consumed in my life, but it's hard to think about that when a meal is approaching and I'm hungry!

So, all in all it's been a good month and a half since coming back to No-S. The foundation is there and I know what I need to do.
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I'm down about 4 pounds since coming back to No-S in mid July. I want to try to use September to slowly get myself away from reading other weight loss sites or articles and try to focus solely on the good things No-S can do for me. Some of my friends on Facebook have been ramping up their efforts with other diets and when I see their posts I almost always shake my head, although I don't know if it's because it temporarily makes me feel bad about my own body or if it's just wondering how they'd react to something like No-S.

So, slow and steady it is. I'll continue my walking for exercise and remember that it's really one of the few things I'll ever find to be enjoyable and sustainable for life.
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