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Larkspur



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7/ Trader-Os, milk, mini Wegman's sticky bun
11/ homemade soy latte
1230/ lovely white beans with proscuitto and tomato, bread with butter and fig jam, nectarine, a few chips and salsa and a few pecans; seltzer with orange juice. Could have bagged the chips and salsa. I eat generous lunches!
5:30/ handful of cashews because I knew dinner would be late
7:15/potato with broccoli, cheese, ham

Lifted weights-- sore!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope you enjoyed every bite! I like having one generous meal a day. When working, it tends not to be lunch because I get only 35 minutes.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday, let's see-- ah yes:

7/ 2 small pieces french toast with butter and jam
1230/laaarge lunch of bagel with brie, nectarine, dried fruit (so sugary! so good!), some pecans and some peanut butter puffins
7/ (lunch lasted well, anyway)-- Blue Apron: pork chop with a shallot/mayo sauce, marinated veg, and potato salad; soy latte

Hot flashes have been rough Sad Otherwise feel good.

7/soy latte, egg, toast with butter, nectarine
1230/McD's cheeseburger, half a McD's pumpkin pie, cashews
130/ derailment of "the rest of lunch" involving a nectarine, popcorn, and some dried mango
7/ slice of chicken pie and a nectarine
1.5 hour hike on the beautiful A trail

7/ awesome just-full-enough breakfast of mango smoothie, PB puffins and a slice of sourdough and butter
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lately I have discovered (rediscovered) eating beans. They are awesome for satiety. Also rejoicing that I continue not to think about food much between meals-- I used to routinely crave food at four but that has gotten almost miraculously easier. I have, however, been having one diet soda a day. Which is terrible. I have LPR (the silent kind of reflux) and I should not be indulging in that dreadful stuff. Coping with what seems to be a sharp plunge into menopause-- taking black cohosh, turning the thermostat to two degrees above absolute zero at night, and taking melatonin for the sleep trouble.

Still not plating properly. I sort of just get things out and eat them, though I don't usually do seconds.

I have more time this year, which I hope to parlay into better fitness and better food and dropping a few pounds. I so want to set an example for my much-loved DD.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh seems like we're dealing with a lot of the same stuff-reflux, menopause etc. My daughter is a vegetarian so we eat A lot of beans. They're so versatile and nutritious. What a great food item.

It's hard giving up those drinks isn't it? I used to drink a venti mocha every single day and never thought I could give it up. After several months I switched to sugar free, no whip version. Then when I had to give up coffee & chocolate because of my reflux I switched to tea. It then found that even bother me so I drink this tecchino chickory coffee like drink. But really I find I just need some sort of ritualized drink to carry around with me. Lately even some unsweetened almond milk w/ a teaspoon of honey over ice is enough to keep me happy.

That's a long way of saying you'll be surprised what you can get used to. I do better with substitutions rather than completely cutting something out so maybe keep trying till you find something to take the place of those diet sodas.

Great you'll have some more time for self-care!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I baked All The Things for the church bazaar last week. I chewed gum and sipped drinks and generally tried, but I still had too much of the wrong things and biliary pain (no gallbladder anymore, but I still sometimes get that) and realized I was just eating too much fat. It was enough to turn me Vanilla. So I have been Vanilla so far this week. Still aiming for more fruit/veggie/legumey meals. There's a little bit of Fear of Eating going on-- so many things are thought to be Wrong depending on your dietary creed.

B/ raisin bran, mango/banana/apple smoothie
L/ half a bagel with cheese, some carrot sticks, half a banana, small bag of smartfood
5/cafe mocha and carrot sticks
D/ stewed chicken, mashed potato, salad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the fear is not from the effects the food might have on your reflux? Which would be legitimate.

I have to admit that I've gotten to the point at which I am not comfortable with the idea of eating just anything at my meals. I actually never did eat willy nilly, but I felt like it should be okay if I did. There's no doubt in my mind that SAD is not going to sustain a person longterm, and that even eating non-manufactured food it's better to have certain ratios, as traditional societies do, though they don't aim at that. But I don't want it to be a reason I go into WTH if I don't meet the standard.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
There's a little bit of Fear of Eating going on-- so many things are thought to be Wrong depending on your dietary creed.

If you have pain/discomfort when you eat certain foods than I think you probably have a relatively easy way to know what foods you should limit your personal diet. My best-case dietary needs may vary from yours so ultimately the only standard you need to follow is your own.

Perhaps commit to vanilla for a month (or the magical 21 days) and see where you stand at the end of it.

Best of luck to you
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do get some sort of not very obvious heartburn after eating. And too much fat does not go down well. But the greater discomfort is mental, when I let myself get lost in the Venn diagram of tasty/plant-based/satisfying/slimming. My lovely mom died when she was a little younger than I am now, so my dietary fretting has a bit of a sharp edge. But, overall, I feel pretty good-- not the cast iron digestion of my youth, but I'm okay.

A super nice, cozy day. Weather finally seasonal, if drippy. Helped DH at work since his office manager is out. He was away for almost a week and it has been so nice to have him back. National events are so stressful and upsetting, and yet my little town feels decent and safe, people are good to each other, I've lived here a long time and have a good web of friends and acquaintances. When I shorten my focus, things are good. I don't want to stop doing what I can to "heal the world" as my rabbi friends say, but it helps to shut down the headlines for a while.

B/ mango/apple/banana smoothie, English muffin with butter
L/carrot, cottage cheese with flax seed, pecans and raisins, a few spicy chickpeas, and Smartfood
4/coffee with soy milk and a few chocolate chips
D/ macaroni and cheese, homemade applesauce, 2.5 strips bacon
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the national news is distressing. Sometimes we can heal the world, and sometimes we need to retreat to our own sanctuaries. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend not to buy too much into all that dietary noise out there. Everyone has an agenda. Balanced diet with all the food groups mostly home cooked food everything in moderation including a little junk food now & then.

I thought of this article when you were describing your town:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-will-survive-this/2017/08/01/7be9322c-76f0-11e7-8839-ec48ec4cae25_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.f5b9d695baac

I'm very politically active at the moment so I do focus on the news a lot but every now & then I have to take a deep breath and look around me. Most people are still basically decent.

Gl w/ the reflux. It's a pain I know. :/
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linda-- re ignoring the noise, wise advice. I get into certain worry patterns, and that is a familiar and well worn pattern. I have a few favorite themes my brain likes to fall into. Have to kick it out again. That was a great Garrison Keillor piece, thank you!

This week I kinda had one of those moments where I realized I just need to kick it into gear. I can't seem to manufacture these moments, they just seem to come. I was pretty much vanilla all week. My S days are Friday and Saturday. Friday was a little fitful and aimless as I had some sense of trying to "fit things in." I love to bake but my younger daughter is not eating much of that stuff these days and we can't really go through it before it gets beyond its best. I don't want to buy a lot of sweet stuff cause I don't really want to open the door, you know? Nothing I had yesterday really hit the spot of "that was great, so glad I did it!" I think I did slim down a bit during the week of Vanilla and that's heartening. On some level I felt like it wasn't working for weight loss (though I love it in every other respect) but of course I wasn't really conforming. There's still the problem of avoiding sweets during the week maybe making me too greedy on the weekend, but I'm going to try to cope with that as it comes around and see what happens.

I was pecking around the internet last night and pursued a discussion of the Gilmore Girls actress's health habits. I was always mildly annoyed by their modeling eating tons of crap food without any evidence of harm to their health, figures or complexions. People found it refreshing to get away from "girls have to eat salads" but it also implied they belonged to some super race exempt from the laws of thermodynamics (there are some people like that!) And in fact Lauren Graham eats 1700-1800 calories a day of very simple, whole food. She had a spit bucket for all that junk food on the show. She also exercises hard for an hour a day. She says she thinks consistency is important and the less she eats, the less she thinks about it. So in some ways it was helpful to see that I am not necessarily being victimized by my metabolism Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larkspur wrote:
Linda-- re ignoring the noise, wise advice. I get into certain worry patterns, and that is a familiar and well worn pattern. I have a few favorite themes my brain likes to fall into. Have to kick it out again. That was a great Garrison Keillor piece, thank you!

This week I kinda had one of those moments where I realized I just need to kick it into gear. I can't seem to manufacture these moments, they just seem to come. I was pretty much vanilla all week. My S days are Friday and Saturday. Friday was a little fitful and aimless as I had some sense of trying to "fit things in." I love to bake but my younger daughter is not eating much of that stuff these days and we can't really go through it before it gets beyond its best. I don't want to buy a lot of sweet stuff cause I don't really want to open the door, you know? Nothing I had yesterday really hit the spot of "that was great, so glad I did it!" I think I did slim down a bit during the week of Vanilla and that's heartening. On some level I felt like it wasn't working for weight loss (though I love it in every other respect) but of course I wasn't really conforming. There's still the problem of avoiding sweets during the week maybe making me too greedy on the weekend, but I'm going to try to cope with that as it comes around and see what happens.

I was pecking around the internet last night and pursued a discussion of the Gilmore Girls actress's health habits. I was always mildly annoyed by their modeling eating tons of crap food without any evidence of harm to their health, figures or complexions. People found it refreshing to get away from "girls have to eat salads" but it also implied they belonged to some super race exempt from the laws of thermodynamics (there are some people like that!) And in fact Lauren Graham eats 1700-1800 calories a day of very simple, whole food. She had a spit bucket for all that junk food on the show. She also exercises hard for an hour a day. She says she thinks consistency is important and the less she eats, the less she thinks about it. So in some ways it was helpful to see that I am not necessarily being victimized by my metabolism Smile


That irked me, too!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My brain was trying to pull all kinds of tricks to keep me from working out, and once I got started, it was barely a thing. No problem. Why am I so silly?

Fairly N yesterday, though dinner at a Mexican restaurant is a little hard to calculate. No sweets, anyway.

B-- whole wheat fruit-injected cereal
L-- pita pizza, a few leftover sesame chicken pieces, mango/pear/banana smoothie, a few prunes and figs

Expect to serve homemade soup and grilled cheese for dinner. College daughter is home and so is DH after he was away for more than a week. Good to have them back in the fold.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RE: thin female characters famed for eating a lot. Grace Adler on Will and Grace. Even if it were true that she could gorge and stay skinny, I still resented it. Their kidding of her was the only price she had to pay for gorging.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feeling good about my No-Sing. Still fairly vanilla-- had an extra spoon of potato salad last night, but that's not too egregious. I was reading up on resistant starch and made my friend's fabulous potato salad, so a win all around Smile Getting better with plating though that still needs some work. I feel like that last week or so I have been easing up on my meals sizes (fewer instances of feeling Way Too Full) and I have shed a little fat, yay.

I read with interest an article that Linda linked-- the one about the best longevity being associated with a BMI or 26 or 27. I had read elsewhere that "normal" BMI was revised downward from 27 to 25 some years ago.

*Maternal worry rant ahead-- just processing LOL

That said, I continue to be somewhat distressed and ruminative about my eldest daughter's weight. (I worry about my youngest's weight for opposite reasons, sigh!) She's the most awesome person imaginable-- kind, helpful, academically competent. She's not gorging on twinkies or anything but she eats every few hours and it's often something like tortilla chips and cheese. It's just that she gained most of this weight at Oxford and I'm not used to it-- she was normal weight until about two years ago, got a little roundy and hippy, then overseas and wow. Maybe 40 pounds. We haven't been able to talk about it, really. She's like my husband-- a highly duty-driven, kind, conscientious person, but she doesn't like to be perceived as less than perfect (neither does he) which keeps them to a high standard, but they're not the most, um, receptive to conversations which bring up the things they struggle with. I'm just worrying she's doing intuitive eating which I am convinced is probably good for a lot of things but fairly useless at keeping you clear of obesity. (I suspect she was somewhat depressed overseas and a conversation here made me think that eating probably kept her from feeling worse.) My belief is that is just locks you into a constant struggle with food. Am I hungry? Am I really hungry? What do I want? How much do I want? No S is so much simpler and healthier but it does take time to adjust. And of course, every person has to find their own path-- you can't impose a system from the outside. It won't stick and she wouldn't stand for it anyway.

This is all in my buffer-- I haven't said anything. I'm trying to figure out what to say and how much. I always emphasized that weight is a number and not a measure of personal worth. I wish we could talk about it free of shame which doesn't belong. Overfat is a manifestation, not a moral failing. I know most people would advise me to leave it completely alone but if I saw her drinking too much or doing lots of weed I would say something. Is this really different? I'm not sure.
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