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ironchef



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang in there Crystal, you are doing really well!

Sounds very sensible to wait a while, and then perhaps take stock of what other (moderate) changes you are willing to make long term.

I've recently taken stock of what's on my plates (and in my glasses) and made a few choices to reduce calories without counting. Mostly to drop the alcoholic beverages, and stop overfilling my dinner bowls - but I'm also dealing with some heartburn issues, so I have extra motivation for that.

The other thing (I may have missed this further back) is that if you feel you are truly eating moderately and that you don't want to make any other changes, are you moving moderately? Moderate exercise (urban rangering, etc) won't make a huge difference to your overall energy balance, but it can get things going again in the right direction. Plus it's just good for us Smile
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SpiritSong



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, we're at a similar point with our thinking. Is it time to cut back already? Geez, I gave up snacks, sweets, and seconds, and now I have to change my meals?

Best of luck to you!
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Ironchef and SpiritSong. Thankfully, I finally lost another pound. What a relief to see the numbers go down a tiny bit again. I guess this should teach me to be a bit more patient and try not to get discouraged so easily. Just trust the process. Ironchef, to answer your question about exercise: Yes, I exercise, but maybe not as much as I should? I am doing about all I can handle at the moment, which is daily walks with my dog. 30 to 40 minutes 7 days per week. On those days when it’s raining and I can’t walk him, I do a 30 minute aerobics video from YouTube. So I do workout every single day. But most days, it’s just walking. I love wine but only drink a couple glasses every 2 or 3 months. If I do try to cut down calories, it will mainly be by cutting back on the amount of calorie dense food (as oolala calls it, I think-great description) and trying to eat lighter foods. I do eat a ton of veggies, but they are by no means the simply steamed variety, haha. I’m sure they are not light on calories. Stir-fry, creamy soups, baked but topped with butter, salads with real salad dressing, etc.

Yesterday and today (Tuesday and Wednesday) were both successes. Can’t believe tomorrow is Thursday. Looking forward to Saturday and the chocolate stash I have in my freezer. Gonna try to enjoy it without eating too much of it.
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on having the scale move for you! I think I have discovered that my dog walks aren't enough exercise to shock my body into releasing the weight. Crying or Very sad When I lost weight with No S the last time, I was doing at home workouts about six days per week. So something a little more intense may work for you.
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today (Thursday) was a success. Had a little full fat vanilla yogurt for breakfast. (The good yogurt here comes from Australia and man is it good!! I’ve tried a few and Dairy Farmers brand is my favourite so far. Love their lemon creme flavour and the carmalised fig flavour as well. But honestly, any full fat yogurt is amazing IMO.) Lunch and dinner were big salads with lettuce, cucumber, corn, vegetarian chicken nuggets and Japanese sesame dressing. Delicious and really fast to put together.
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Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today was a bit difficult and technically a fail, but not too bad. Had a lot going on and dealing with a lot of negative emotions. Had the urge to eat all day. I resisted the urge, for the most part, all day. I did have one of those bite size peanut butter cups. But I stopped at one. And at dinner, I had a vegetarian Indian set meal that came with a small portion of payasam, a soupy, milky dessert. Which I did eat because I can’t resist most Indian desserts and kind of justified it because it came with the meal, haha. Truthfully, I knew it wasn’t on plan to eat it, but I’d resisted so much all day that I just didn’t have the will to resist anymore. But it was just those 2 small failures and it could have been much worse. I don’t have too many of those days where I am so tempted all day. And interesting to see how much my craving to eat was directly tied to my having a bad day. Well, tomorrow is another day and thank goodness it’s Saturday.
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Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crystal wrote:
Today was a bit difficult and technically a fail, but not too bad. Had a lot going on and dealing with a lot of negative emotions. Had the urge to eat all day. I resisted the urge, for the most part, all day. I did have one of those bite size peanut butter cups. But I stopped at one. And at dinner, I had a vegetarian Indian set meal that came with a small portion of payasam, a soupy, milky dessert. Which I did eat because I can’t resist most Indian desserts and kind of justified it because it came with the meal, haha. Truthfully, I knew it wasn’t on plan to eat it, but I’d resisted so much all day that I just didn’t have the will to resist anymore. But it was just those 2 small failures and it could have been much worse. I don’t have too many of those days where I am so tempted all day. And interesting to see how much my craving to eat was directly tied to my having a bad day. Well, tomorrow is another day and thank goodness it’s Saturday.


I hope tomorrow is a better day! I always appreciate "small r" red days where we can see these kinds of successes--the behaviors that are different from how we might have responded in the past. Well done!
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much Merry! I really appreciate your kind words. ❤️

I’m really glad the weekend is over. I overindulged and felt gross. Went to bed last night with a stomach ache and woke up groggy. I didn’t even eat all that much, but I did have a few pieces of chocolate after lunch and also after dinner. Yesterday was not a good day in general and not eating moderately made me feel worse. Feeling so much better now, at the end of Monday. Had breakfast, lunch and dinner and was successful in not eating anything besides that. I had one cup of tea in the afternoon. I’m about to go walk the dog and then turn in by 10 hopefully. Which is super early for me. Feeling so much better also lately (besides a few yucky days these past 3 days) by making a real effort to get to bed earlier. Listened to a podcast today called Hidden Brain. The latest episode is all about sleep deprivation and how it’s much worse for a person than we could ever imagine. It’s a real effort to go to bed early in Singapore. It’s part of the culture here to go to bed so very late. Most everyone I know goes to bed anywhere from 12 to 2am. Some even later. And then get up early to go to work! I don’t know how they do it. Maybe that’s why everyone looks like they are in a bad mood on the public buses and trains, haha.
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s Saturday afternoon here. Even though I promised myself I’d check in every day for the rest of the year, I just didn’t this week. I’ve been PMSing all week and have been tired and not really in the mood to check in. But I’ve been compliant all week despite lots of cravings to eat between meals. I’ve stayed green all week. I didn’t lose, but I just started my period and I didn’t gain either. Still at 246. Usually, I’m a few pounds up the first couple days of my period. So I’m hoping the scale will move in a downward direction in a couple days. I’m actually considering not weighing myself everyday. But I don’t want to weigh only once a month as I know how much weight fluctuates from day to day. So I might weigh myself for 3-5 days in a row once a month. Maybe from Tuesday to Saturday on the last week of the month or something like that. I’m not sure yet. But my weight loss has slowed so much in the past month that I’m finding daily weigh-ins a little discouraging.

On another note. I’ve been reading that some of you do intermittent fasting in addition to No S. I kind of by accident do as well. This is because I’m not a breakfast eater on most days. So I naturally go from around 7:30pm to noon or later the next day without eating. So I usually only eat 2 meals per day. However, I DO drink milk in my 2 morning cups of coffee. (No sugar only bc I prefer it that way.) I know this is technically not IF. I think it was Linda (?) who mentioned the importance of “clean” fasting. (If it wasn’t Linda, I apologise.) But I just wonder if I can really drink black coffee. And if it would really make a difference. I love my morning milky coffee. Can I really learn to love it black? I’m considering. I guess the only way to find out is to try. I may try it for a week just to see if I can handle it.
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Crystal, well done staying strong when you have PMS, I can really struggle around those few days. Doesn't matter what the scales say, the most important thing is that you stayed strong and stayed green! Keep going! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crystal wrote:
However, I DO drink milk in my 2 morning cups of coffee. (No sugar only bc I prefer it that way.) I know this is technically not IF.


I have read that it is okay to have 40-50 calories in the morning, so I don't worry about the milk in my coffee. I tried it black for a couple of days and didn't like it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Crystal,
Honestly, it's hard for me to believe the dollop of cream in your coffee is really what has caused you to stall in your weight loss. If you really love your coffee the way you have it, I encourage you to take a good long, honest look at what you're eating at other times and try to find a way to reduce the amount of calories you're eating in other areas. In my opinion, eating a bit less pasta/rice/potato/ bread will yield greater results that are pretty easy to sustain and overall be less noticable. I don't mean measuring or counting. I literally mean - take 3/4 of whatever amount you normally take or make an open face sandwich instead of a full size sandwich then fill the empty space on your plate with vegetables or possibly fruit.

That being said, making small changes over many different areas can really add up over time. The important thing is that the changes you make feel natural and not punishing. Some of the things that folks have adjusted are plate size; ratio of dense foods (pasta, rice, cheese, potatoes etc) to light foods (vegetables, soups, fruits); eliminate drinks that add calories (Starbucks) Many people have also found it helpful to add 15 minutes of exercise of their choice. The exercise doesn't burn many calories but it works magic on your brain.

Both those things being said 😉 I gave up cream and sugar in my coffee many years ago ( unrelated to no-s) by switching from cream to 1/2 and 1/2. Then to whole milk then to 2% milk. When I finally got to skim milk there just wasn't any reason to continue to use it so I quit all together.

Whatever you decide, good luck and warm regards.
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Bluebell, for your encouragement for me to keep going! ❤️ Thank you SpiritSong for your comment too. I’d love to continue drinking milk in my coffee. I just don’t like it black, and I love my morning coffee so much. Thank you Virginia for your comment and advice as well. I truly have been thinking about what you wrote and how to implement it in my plan. I do exercise 7 days a week, but it’s just a 30 to 40 minute walk with the dog. Actually, I do this mainly because as you mentioned, it’s a great motivator and makes me feel good. Also, I just want to stay healthy. Walking has so many health benefits. Starting in January, I’ll be taking public transportation to bring my daughter across singapore so she can attend a special needs school (due to her moderate cerebral palsy.) Instead of taking a bus to get to the train (hour long train journey each way) I can walk. (Pushing her in the wheelchair.) Then walk again from the train to her school instead of taking another bus. All in all, it’s 4 walks per day (to and from the train both ways) that are 15 to 20 minutes each way. So that’s over an hour of walking not including walking the dog. I’ve been looking forward to that.

Truthfully, I need to do 3 things: 1. Put less amounts of dense food on my plate. 2. Stop drinking so many milky drinks between meals (I average 2-3 per day! Usually tea with milk or an iced latte with no sugar. I could use low fat or skim milk. I currently use whole. Half n half is almost nonexistent in Singapore. Starbucks doesn’t even have it.) 3. Just keep doing No S and don’t freak out over the slow weight loss.

Today (Monday) is not over, but I’m calling it a success because I don’t see myself failing today. I don’t fail often. My only concern is that I don’t get too frustrated at the slow loss and throw in the towel altogether. How sad that would be. I’ll be ok I think. I just need to figure out how to consume a few less calories and stay on plan no matter what.
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday (Tuesday) was a success. It started out ok, and I skipped breakfast as I do most days, but by noon, I had a migraine. I was expecting one to come any day as it’s that time of month I usually get one. But it was pretty discouraging. It just ruins your day. But it’s Wednesday now and it’s over, hopefully for another month. I did want to do some comfort eating but I didn’t. I stayed green. I ate 2 meals yesterday and that’s it. Also tried to go lighter on my drinks. Weight was the same this morning.

In the beginning, when I was losing so well, weighing every day was great. Now, not so much. Even though I’m very compliant, weight loss is so slow. That, despite the fact that I’m not even near “normal” BMI range (or even “overweight” range) and don’t ever expect to be. My N days are green and my S days are tame. So I’ve made a decision about the scale. I’m going to stop my daily weigh-ins after this week. They are just a way to wake up in the morning and start the day with bad news. I’m not giving up the scale altogether because that doesn’t work for me at all. But I’m going to weigh once a month instead. Or, more precisely, I’m going to weigh 5 days in a row one week out of the month and not worry about it between now and then. If this doesn’t work for me, I’ll change it.

Looking back over my log in the Happy Scale app, I have lost about 2 pounds in the past month. I guess I should be grateful I’ve lost anything. But I haven’t lost anything in 2 weeks. They weren’t good weeks-my daughter was sick, then I was sick, then PMS, then migraine. But I was green throughout. And seeing the scale go up or settle back down without anymore loss has just been getting to me. I’m not a very patient person. I’m hoping weighing less frequently will help me not stress so much about the stupid scale. I don’t want to become a person who obsesses about the scale.
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday (Wednesday) was a success. I had no breakfast, lunch around noon at my favourite vegetarian cafe that serves vegetarian versions of local favourites. Had an iced coffee around 3pm. Dinner was 2 breakfast burritos and salad. But I was full after eating only one breakfast burrito and the salad so I put the other burrito in the fridge for breakfast or lunch today.

Good scale news today. I’m down another half a pound. Finally. I’m going to weigh tomorrow and Saturday, but after that, I’m not going to weigh for a few weeks. Seeing my weight fluctuations was ok when I was down one or two pounds a week, but seeing the same number on the scale for 2 weeks straight is just not very fun. This is just an experiment. If I find my habits slipping as a result of not weighing every day, I’ll adjust. Maybe weigh every week on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Or something like that.
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s Saturday morning here. Yesterday was a success. I don’t always skip breakfast. Yesterday I ate breakfast around 11am. (That’s why I usually skip. I’m not hungry until then so I usually feel I can wait another hour two for lunch and just skip breakfast. ) Had egg salad sandwich and strawberries. Lunch was Chinese noodles and veggies. Dinner was corn soup and one breakfast burrito that consisted of eggs, cheese, sautéed mushrooms, lettuce and tomatoes.

I weighed roughly the same this morning. I’ll weigh again in a few weeks.
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monday and Tuesday: small failures. Has a couple extra bites of this and that after dinner.
Wednesday and Thursday: success
So, I was tempted to step on the scale on Wednesday and it showed a loss, so I stepped on Thursday and Friday (today) as well, and yes, I have really started losing again. Down 3 pounds! 😃 So, i seem to have broken through that little plateau, without changing anything. Yay!!!!

Tomorrow is Saturday and I’m taking 2 visiting friends out for the day to try some of the culinary delights Singapore has to offer. Plan on having an epic S Day, haha. 😂 No, I’ll try to be reasonable. But I’m not going to worry about it. Can’t wait!
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Crystal. Just dropping in. The idea of being able to go out to eat in Singapore sounds pretty good right now, even as I've been reading sources that recommend simplifying our meals and limiting our choices, at least at any one meal.

Hope you enjoy the experience before, during, and after you have it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Oolala! I definitely did enjoy the experience. And I didn’t go overboard. Stuck mainly to lunch and dinner with an iced coffee in between. Oh yeah, and one small dessert. Everything was delicious.

Friday was a success. Saturday and Sunday were good. I *may* have eaten a little too many mint chocolates on Sunday. But whatever. 😂

It’s Monday night here and I’ve finished dinner. I don’t think I’ll be eating anything else so today was a success. Hope everyone had a nice weekend!
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuesday: Well, this was either a failure or a Non-S Day event (not day) which I think I’ve taken maybe once since I started (restarted?) No S in July. I had lunch with a friend at a vegetarian cafe I’d never been to. They sell amazing vegetarian versions of local dishes. They also had gourmet ice cream sandwiches. Ice cream sandwiches are one of my favourite things in the whole world. They are also almost impossible to find in Singapore. These were a locally made ice cream sandwich-very high quality ice cream like Haagen Dazs. So, after much debate, I decided to go ahead. It was delicious and worth it. One of the best things I’ve eaten in a long time. I treated the rest of the day as an N day. I don’t keep a habitcal currently, so I don’t really know if I’d call that a red day or not. I tend to think Non-S Day S days should be decided upon in advance and not a spur of the moment decision just because I was tempted to eat something. But I didn’t feel any guilt at all, and I didn’t use it was an excuse to eat whatever I wanted the rest of the day. So all is good.

Thinking about all the delicious food I’ve eaten over the past 4 months or so since I started No S makes me feel so grateful for this way of eating. I’ve never eaten so well on any diet in my life. It’s amazing to me how enjoyable this way of eating is. Not only do I get to eat delicious food that is real food, I’m actually hungry when I eat, so the food automatically tastes that much better. And I am losing weight. I started out at 269 and I’m currently 242, so I guess that’s about 10 percent of my weight. Yes, the weight loss is slow, especially compared with other diets I’ve been on. But I was never able to enjoy the other diets. The way I ate was not sustainable and not enjoyable. I thought about food and the diet obsessively. On No S, I pretty much don’t think about diet at all. And I enjoy my meals so much. I feel so much healthier as well.

Another great thing is that my daily walks have become something I very much look forward to. If I can’t walk the dog for whatever reason (like rain) it’s not even a question of whether or not I’m going to do a YouTube workout. I just do. I think these workouts are good to throw in a couple times a week with the walking anyway because they focus on things that maybe just walking doesn’t. I definitely feel sore a day after a video workout. I used to have a lot of back pain, which is something I have occasionally struggled with all my life. I can definitely tell a difference with how my back feels. It’s so much better now. I think the daily walks as well as the stretching I do have helped with this. I’m sure losing 10 percent of my weight hasn’t hurt either.
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Crystal,

I'm glad to hear things are going so well for you. What a special treat that Reinhard has given us with this "system of moderation" of his. Smile

Regards,
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Virginia! I completely agree!

Thursday: Success.
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42 years old. 5’6”. Long time vegetarian.
Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all such good news, and your weight loss is not slow at all on No S. In fact, it's rather stunning! I think most people don't lose that fast.

I agree with you that ideally, NWS days should be designated in advance. Otherwise, it will take precious decision currency from automaticity, as the brain would probably scan for opportunities to eat food that seems ''worth" eroding the habit. With what I know now about food seduction, believe me when I say it is wired for that.
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Jan/12-26.8
Mar/13-24.9 Stayed at +/- 8-lb. for three years Sept/17 22.8 (but more fluctuation)
Dec/17 23.8

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Oolala! I guess I was losing fast in the beginning, then it slowed way down, and I began to wonder if I’d keep losing just doing No S. I’ve never stuck to No S this long. And this is the only moderate eating plan I’ve ever attempted. My other temporarily successful weight loss efforts were on very strict diets that required tons of mental energy and included heavy doses of guilt and shame. (But the weight loss was fast-70 pounds off in 6-8 months.) This is pure freedom, especially compared with that. I guess I am just hoping I can continue to lose weight, albeit slowly, on something so moderate and enjoyable. And you know, I would think it would be much easier for me, at a starting weight of almost 270, to lose over 25 pounds in 4 plus months than for someone at a much lower weight. So I know not to expect this relatively fast weight loss to continue. I just have to make peace with the slowness of it. I probably won’t reach my extremely moderate goal weight of 190 for another year. Or longer. But we will see. At any rate, I have come to love this way of eating, weight loss or not. And I totally agree about NWS Days being planned in advance. If I was keeping a habitcal, I’d probably mark that as a red day.

Friday was a success. Saturday was a delicious S Day that included a scoop of vanilla bean ice cream on a waffle cone and a very big chocolate chip cookie from Starbucks. Haha, just remembered that at least one third of that cookie is still in my purse because I couldn’t finish it. Starbucks cookies are very big. 😂
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, almost all people reach a standstill in weight loss, and it's rarely at as low a weight as they want. The body can do a lot to protect its fat stores and keep its set point. It thinks it's saving your life! Even if you were ever thin, having a higher weight for longer than a few months means that point has gone up, sad to say. And it's harder to maintain the new weight on the same amount of food as someone that's always been at that weight. Sigh.

Apparently, eating a lot less manufactured food can help lower set point.

But the other benefits are great, no?

I'd bet, though I haven't tested or examined it yet, that more exercise that includes some resistance sessions could alter that fat content of the body and result in a lower size because of greater leanness and let the set point adjust lower. It's a nice hypothesis. If only I could muster the will to find out!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd bet, though I haven't tested or examined it yet, that more exercise that includes some resistance sessions could alter that fat content of the body and result in a lower size because of greater leanness and let the set point adjust lower. It's a nice hypothesis. If only I could muster the will to find out!


I'm experimenting to see if resistance training works this way for me. So far I'm a little stronger, which is worth having.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monday: Success
Tuesday: Success
Wednesday: Success

Lost another pound. Yay!! 😊
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whittling away!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Oolala...that made me smile. 😊😊😊
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thursday: Success
Friday: Success (with a large dinner-but it fit on one plate!)

I’m really looking forward to tomorrow. I’m going to the cinema, complete with popcorn and a soda.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s Monday night here. Today was a success.

The weekend was good. I ate a few snacks here and there, and was never very hungry for meals. I did eat my meals anyway but did not enjoy them nearly as much as I do when I’m hungry. Being hungry for meals is one of the best things about No S.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuesday: Fail. Was successful all day until just now (after dinner). My little girl wanted ice cream. I was feeding her so she wouldn’t make a mess (tired of cleaning messes all day!) and *somehow* 4 or 5 bites ended up in my mouth instead of hers. Oops. Well, I’m for sure done eating for the night and still need to walk the dog before bed.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a small fail. Not using it as a reason to carry on eating is a win in my book!

I find that I do better when I allow myself a small 'dessert' after my meal - usually fruit with or without yoghurt, sometimes a few nuts, or a couple of dates. Sometimes it's a cup of hot cocoa in the evening. These things have all helped me stay on-habit.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks RawCookie. Great suggestion as well!

Wednesday: Success

Thursday: Fail. Was successful all week until someone gave my husband a tiny pack of tiny homemade cookies. There were 5 dollar coin size chocolate chip cookies in the pack. I was giving them to my daughter, and just shrugged and ate 2 myself. They were tiny, but still. I don’t like that I barely hesitated before just eating them. That was about an hour after dinner. It’s crazy-I would not have gone rooting around the kitchen looking for a snack. I just don’t do that anymore. But when handed something tempting (homemade cookies are oh so tempting for me) I went ahead and ate them. Sigh. I need to make sure this doesn’t become a habit.

Friday: Success. Skipped breakfast so only had 2 meals and made sure they were healthy-ish and smallish.

So I rarely have fails. But I had 2 fails this week. But at least they were small and contained.

I did not lose or gain this week. Well, I’m down .2. Lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to make excuses, but honestly, humans are opportunistic eaters! That's why it takes scarcity or cultural habits to keep people trim. You're still learning the "culture' and it can happen even years in to the veterans... Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven’t felt like checking in for the rest of December, but January 1 is coming to a close in Singapore so I thought I’d better get back to it. I had a pretty successful week last week. Probably ate a bit too much on the weekend, but it was the weekend. I just considered today a normal day and made a success of it. I lost almost half a pound last week. So slowly but surely. I’m really looking forward to being 239 because that will mark 30 pounds down for me. 30 down, 50 to go, LOL. Wow, that sounds like so much when I write it out like that. Oh, well. What do they say about how to eat an elephant? One bite at a time. Probably not the best analogy coming from a vegetarian on a diet.

Just want to say that No S has been one of the highlights of 2017 for me. I’m so grateful for that awful moment in July in a hotel when I stepped on a scale for the first time in years and saw 269. As soon as I returned home, I started No S and haven’t looked back. Really looking forward to No S in 2018 and seeing how I feel/how I’m doing/what I weigh this time next year!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love hearing that NoS was a highlight of your year! It's so calming, in many ways.

Happy New Year! Congrats on your beautiful progress and here's to another great year of moderate eating!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crystal wrote:
What do they say about how to eat an elephant? One bite at a time. Probably not the best analogy coming from a vegetarian on a diet.


Laughing Ha! This cracked me up!

Great year, and I hope you continue to do well in 2018!
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Thank you so much for the kind words automatedeating and Merry!! I hope you both have a fantastic 2018 as well!

Tuesday is coming to a close. It was a success. Really glad the holidays are over and life is back to normal.

I lost another pound. Weight is a funny thing. I can be plugging along at the same weight for 2-3 weeks, then lose 2-3 lbs in a week. Then back to maintaining. It is all averaging out to about half a pound a week.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes the scale feedback can be sobering and useful. I'm glad you didn't use it to run to food, as paradoxically that often happens.

There are all kinds of reasons weight loss doesn't often proceed in a linear or truly predictable way. That's why days on habit it such a great metric.

Besides, it's very hard to know how to alter something for better results until there's a very strong baseline.

Happy New Year and see you later.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:38 am    Post subject: Crystal’s Weekly Check-In Reply with quote

Thank you Oolala! I hope you have a wonderful 2018 as well. I always appreciate your kindness, straightforwardness, and words of wisdom.

I’ve decided to change this to a weekly check-in. I’m not very good about checking in daily and I’ve got a lot on my plate with my daughter just starting school at a special needs school. On public transport, it takes about 2 hours each way. But there’s a lot of walking involved too, which I’m happy about.

Wednesday: Success
Thursday: Success
Friday: Success
Saturday: S Day
Sunday: S Day

I have been really busy and I pack a small lunch with me when I take my daughter to school. I eat dinner, but have so many chores in the evening I don’t have time to think about food after dinner. I’ve been pretty hungry this past week, but I don’t mind hunger like i used to. But I was also on my period so the scale actually showed a 3 pound gain. Ugh. Definitely feeling the hate part of my like/hate relationship with the scale this week.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, my, that commute to school sounds really hard! 2 hours ONE way? If so, I guess the main positive is that you and your daughter will be spending LOTS of time together! Laughing

Glad you're getting walking in!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm humbled thinking about how demanding your schedule is. Shocked Hope your daughter likes and makes progress at her school, esp. with the commute.

I think it's actually an advantage not to have time to think about food much. If you feel you aren't eating very smartly, you can take a look at that and make plans for how to make it easier to have other stuff ready later. It's a lot to expect to have timing and content all figured out at the same time. That's what diets try to do for us; it doesn't work much except in the guru's book.

And don't worry about checking in every day here. It might be good to keep SOMETHING like habitcal somewhere easy to see. Habit theory says that alone makes a difference.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, starting from where I left off last week:
Monday: Success
Tuesday: Success
Wednesday: Success
Thursday: Success
Friday: Fail. Success all day, but by the evening, after dinner, I had a glass of wine which somehow led to 4 small cookies. I’m usually not tempted, but I was tired after a long week and after the glass of wine, I just didn’t seem to have the will to resist.
Saturday and Sunday: S Days in which I ate quite a bit.
Monday: Success

So, I’ve finally just about made the 30 pound loss mark. I weighed 239.4 today. According to my Happy Scale app, I’ve lost 29.6 pounds total, but only 9.6 pounds in the last 90 days. So round that up to 10 pounds lost in 3 months. The first 3 months I lost 20 pounds for that 3 months. But it’s slowed way way down, as expected. Even though my habits have stayed strong. But as long as it’s going down even a little bit, I’m ok. The app said I have lost 1 pound in the past 7 days. The couple weeks before that I lost .2 pounds per week or nothing. In 30 days, it says I’ve lost 2.4 pounds. On previous diets, I was consistently losing that in one week, every week. But those diets were not sustainable. I find this interesting because I’ve never lost weight like this before...so slowly but surely. I’m really glad I had an initial fast weight loss or I would’ve had a hard time sticking with Vanilla and not making it much stricter so the weight would come off faster. Or giving up altogether in defeat with the idea that, “See? Nothing works. I cannot lose weight.” Turns out I CAN lose weight, and eat like a normal person without cutting out carbs or counting calories. It’s just that it’s WAY slower and much more of an exercise in patience than I ever thought it would be. But it is absolutely wonderful eating this way. I feel like an entirely different person around food. It’s weird that it’s likely going to take a couple years to get to my “ideal” weight, whatever that is, but as so many have said before, that time is going to pass whether I do No S or not. And this is really the way I want to eat forever. I have never said that about any diet I have ever been on before.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:34 am    Post subject: Hi Reply with quote

I just LOVE your above post!!! You are such an encouragement to me!! Patience. That’s what I need. I have a huge amount of weight to lose, but as you said, the time is going to pass anyway. We might as well not be miserable along the way! And once you do make goal, you’re already following the maintenance plan!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love this post, too - it captures so well why No-S is what I'm staying with over the long term. Well done, Crystal, and much continued sanity and success!
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Crystal wrote:
Turns out I CAN lose weight, and eat like a normal person without cutting out carbs or counting calories. It’s just that it’s WAY slower and much more of an exercise in patience than I ever thought it would be. But it is absolutely wonderful eating this way. I feel like an entirely different person around food. It’s weird that it’s likely going to take a couple years to get to my “ideal” weight, whatever that is, but as so many have said before, that time is going to pass whether I do No S or not. And this is really the way I want to eat forever. I have never said that about any diet I have ever been on before.


Congratulations and thank you for inspiring us all to have some patience and to enjoy the process. You are doing great!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crystal, thanks so much for your inspiring post. It’s great to know that No S has worked so brilliantly for you. I feel really encouraed by your words. 💐
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A few weeks ago, a friend was asking me a few questions about my eating in such a way that I could tell she thought it was a diet thing, something I was doing and not living. Even though she has known me the whole time! She's seen my drop and maintenance, but she somehow has the idea that it's because of some things I did temporarily. There's a small amount of truth to that, but the backbone is what has made everything possible. But, I told her, this is the way I'm eating forever, with small adjustments as needed for activities, aging, etc. I'm never consistently going back to more frequent eating/S's. At least, I'm not sitting around waiting to.

BTW. she texted asking for my opinion about two books: Younger Next Year which I have no problem with because it pushes exercise and NOT trying to lose weight, but just cutting out manufactured food. (Yeah, cutting out. I always snort when that's recommended. As Reinhard has said, that kind of rule ignores the foundations of human psychology.) The second was one of the Jorge Cruise franchise. I told her IMHO, avoid all 58,000 traditional diet books on Amazon. (She actually did The South Beach diet in this interim. I felt scared for her because I know the odds, and they seem to me to have come to pass. Weight gain after two years. Hers has gone up even more since then.)

However, I don't think junk food is her issue. I think she may be in a bit of denial about whether she's overeating or not. She never had to think about her eating when she was young. She ate quite a lot of food, but not junk. Anyway, 'm a little nervous about her asking because I would actually love having a close ally in my actual social circle and I know I can't be quite as nonchalant about whether she accepts or not. If her interest fades, it will feel a little more personal.
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Wow, you guys! Thank you so much for such lovely, kind words. Thank you tobiasmom, Amy3010, Jenji, Octavia and Oolala. ❤️

By the way, Oolala-I’ve loved reading about your decluttering efforts via the KonMari method. I’m a bit of a minimalist myself. I think minimalism has a lot in common with No S. Not owning lots of stuff frees up so much time to do and think about other things. The time I spend cleaning and picking up the house has drastically reduced since getting rid of so much stuff. I’ve always been a bit of a minimalist, but I’ve made more efforts toward this in the past few years. Stuff has a way of creeping into my life and house even if I don’t buy it though, so it’s a work in progress. I have to work to maintain it, but it’s way less work than it would be if I was constantly trying to clean and organize a bunch of stuff. I’m not an extreme minimalist with only one suitcase full of stuff (though that lifestyle appeals to me). But I do own much less than the average person. For example, my wardrobe consists of less than 30 items (not including undergarments), we each have 2 towels each, one sheet for the bed. I own 2 pairs of shoes, one pair of earrings. You get the idea. It did take me years to get to this point. I’m definitely NOT at maintenance when it comes to my weight, but I am at minimalism. It’s still a work in progress, though, just as my weight will always be a work in progress. I’ve never actually read Marie Kondo’s book, but I’m kind of familiar with her method. I think it definitely has value, but I don’t really like the idea of keeping or discarding items based on the “Does it spark joy?” question. I don’t know-i don’t really like the whole idea of joy coming from material things. I keep things mainly because they serve a purpose in my life, but I hope my real joy comes from inside myself, from other people in my life and from my faith. But take that with a grain of salt because I haven’t even read the book! 😂 Sorry, I could go on about this topic forever. I should have left this on your thread.

Monday: Success
Tuesday: Success
Wednesday: Success
Thursday: Success
Friday: Success
Saturday and Sunday: S Days

My period started a week early so lots of stupid weight fluctuations in the upward direction. PMS and periods are a real pain when it comes to dieting for many reasons.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for clarity, I don't use the Konmari method. It's a mishmash of Flylady, a teeny bit of KM, and lots of me. I got stalled by getting caught up in wanting to have a chance to offer things in my neighborhood (I've gotten some useful stuff for free. Want to make the gesture).

I have to tell you, when I read that you have TWO pairs of shoes, it was as close as spraying a beverage out of my mouth in astonishment as I've ever come. No hiking boots? Athletic shoes? Sandals for summer? Cleaning/gardening shoes? I bow to you.

The "garage" stuff and the PAPERS are a higher priority for me now, but when I"m done, I'm going to reward myself with the book, The Tidy Closet. I wish my library had a copy, as it might be a little too chic for my needs. In SoCal, some people might be misled! In the meantime, I am determined to actually wear some of my "work" clothes when I got out instead of the chronic cazh that it is the norm almost everywhere.

If I may, I humbly suggest that you think of eating maintenance rather than weight maintenance. And maybe minimalist (only daily needs and a little kick for celebration) for eating down the line. Wink That way, feminine fluctuations will not be so ego-bruising. They are meaningless in the habit formation, which is where the real goodies are.

I promise I'll keep working on my material stuff in parallel with you and No S stuff. Actually, by the standards of most of the general population of my age cohort, my digs are quite simple. I was going to say "pretty" simple, but honestly, there's not a lot of pretty things. (Been working on assets that make money rather than decor, though that's not always successful. Crying or Very sad) I'll work on a little bit of pretty when I clear the space.)
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s Wednesday afternoon. Last week was ok, but I did have a fail.

Monday: Success
Tuesday: Success
Wednesday: Success
Thursday: Success
Friday: Fail. Did great all day, but by the time i got home from the 2 hour commute (train and walking, pushing my daughter in her wheelchair) from my daughter’s school, I was feeling tired and frazzled. It’s been raining a lot here, and pushing a wheelchair in the rain is not fun. We have umbrellas and rain panchos, but it’s still a hassle. Plus, the hour long ride home on the train at peak hour is tiring by Friday. I’m using that frazzled feeling as an excuse to eat a couple small cookies after dinner. Like, I just want to sit on the couch, eat cookies and watch tv. I do stop after 2 or 3, but I really don’t want this to become a habit. I need to figure out another way to wind down. Honestly, just a hot cup of milky tea would probably do the trick.
Saturday: S Day
Sunday: S Day
Monday (this week): Success
Tuesday: Success

Another thing: I think I’m drinking too many caloric drinks between meals. I don’t drink soda but I do order iced lattes from places like McDonald’s when I’m passing the time while my daughter is in school. That would be ok, if it was just one, but sometimes I buy a bottle of sweet tea in addition to that a couple hours later. When I’m at home, I don’t drink sugar in my tea or coffee. But sweet iced lattes and sweet tea sure are delicious when I’m away from home! I need to figure out a workable solution to this.

I lost 2.2 pounds this past week.

Oolala, I know you are so right about thinking in terms of habit maintenance instead of weight maintenance. I hope I’ll get there in my thinking one day!! I think I’m getting better at least. I used to panic when the scale would stall out for a few weeks. Now I take those numbers more in stride.
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Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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oolala53



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response re:shoes. Still impressive. So is losing 30 lbs.!

When the time comes, you may be willing to cut back on the lattes and sweet teas. Officially, coffee and tea between meals are supposed to have just a spoonful of sugar or so. The commercial ones would likely be considered sweets, but wean yourself as you can. I myself have always been on the side of doing the least needed to get some of the change wanted. Then there's always room for more adjustments, if wanted or needed, when they seem less wrenching. Even my decaf mochas or lattes were not really canonical, as I use[d] stevia that sweetens more than a couple of teaspoons of sugar would. I'm rebounding on that habit now for awhile as I get used to having more free time in the day. I'm going to start counting it as a fail even though I'm not claiming to stop the habit again. Gearing up.

You sure have your work cut out for you. I think it's an advantage to have exercise be so functional in your life, but it doesn't make it easy. (I'm reminded of an interviewer once asking Reinhard why he walked to work. He said it was because his boss would fire him if he didn't show up. Wink) Would that we all had such a rational way of making our choices.
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Crystal



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s been a couple weeks since I checked in I think. In the past 2 weeks (or however long it’s been since I checked in) I’ve been mostly successful with 2 failures. Failure #1: I ate 2 bites of a piece of cake my daughter didn’t finish before throwing it away. Failure #2: Another “I’m frazzled, it’s Friday night and I don’t care” failure. I ate 1 and a half packs of single serving m&ms. Sigh. It wasn’t a huge deal, but I don’t like that I am repeatedly failing on Friday night. I seriously need to figure out a solution to this problem.

I lost another 1.4 pounds since my last check-in. I think my weight loss has picked up again since I’ve greatly increased my walking. I walk a minimum of one hour a day now (in 15 to 20 minute increments just getting where I need to go instead of taking the bus.) Often, it’s more like 1.5 hours per day, and once or twice a week, it’s 2 hours per day. But it doesn’t feel like I’m exercising because it’s just short walking periods and it’s done with a purpose-it gets me where I need to go.
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Fairly strict Vanilla No S.
Starting Weight: 269 (17 July 2017)
Current Weight: 234.2 (24 February 2018)
Initial Goal Weight: 190
Final Goal Weight: Wherever my weight eventually settles on No S.
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Imogen Morley



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know your thoughts on weighing, but I do my weekly weigh-in on Saturday morning before breakfast. That usually eliminates Friday night fails, because I'm curious about how much weight I've lost during the week and I don't want to miss the weigh-in or falsify it with Friday binges. I track my weight week to week, and am very diligent about it. Being a data junkie sometimes helps!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that you asked but something that helped me get over wanting Friday Freedom was making a Bisquick biscuit- yes, just one!- and topping it with strawberries fresh or frozen, and plain yogurt with a whiff of stevia. I would have that at lunch or dinner, and it felt like I was looking forward to something almost wicked even though it was completely canonical. But I saved it for Friday.

So maybe you can have something like that, if you don't already.

You are doing so well! I think you see the Friday thing in perspective.
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SBMI Jan/10-30.8
Jan/12-26.8
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Dec/17 23.8

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