As I wrote in my daily check-in, I participated in that quintessentially American holiday today, by utterly gorging myself! I can't believe I used to eat this way every day.... I'm horribly uncomfortable after having eaten so much .... bleah.
So Thanks to Reinhard for devising such an elegantly simple and healthy eating algorithm!
And isn't it funny how in America we've come to associate giving thanks with eating far more than we need to the point of discomfort and then crashing on the couch to watch football, parades, or reruns of Heidi in a dark tryptophan-induced haze! Yet more evidence at how we as a country/society romanticize and celebrate sloth and gluttony!
On Thanks Giving
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On Thanks Giving
JWL[.|@]Freakwitch[.]net
On Thanksgiving
Hell yes! It's a great country! :wink:And isn't it funny how in America we've come to associate giving thanks with eating far more than we need to the point of discomfort and then crashing on the couch to watch football, parades, or reruns of Heidi in a dark tryptophan-induced haze! Yet more evidence at how we as a country/society romanticize and celebrate sloth and gluttony!
Kevin
1/13/2011-189# :: 4/21/2011-177# :: Goal-165#
"Respecting the 4th S: sometimes."
1/13/2011-189# :: 4/21/2011-177# :: Goal-165#
"Respecting the 4th S: sometimes."
I don't think Thanksgiving or other feast days are symptomatic of a problem. Feast days are as old as humanity. The problem is that we now feast 365 days a year. Distinguishing between feast days and ordinary days, like we used to, can be a positive help in recognizing and limiting (and, occasionally, enjoying) excess.
If every day is a feast day, of course, then official feast days become monstrous orgies, feasts of feasts (literally so, in the case below). Here are two thanksgiving horror stories that were related to me by coworkers:
1) One coworker doesn't like thanksgiving because he and his wife are the only non-obese people in his family, who eat not one, but two thanksgiving meals. The first an Italian thanksgiving (lasagna, etc), then a few hours later, a full "American" one (turkey, etc.). He feels disgusted at this spectacle and like he's condoning their excess just by being there.
2) Another coworker's family used to compete on thanksgiving. Everyone would weigh themselves before and after the meal. Who ever gained the most "won" thanksgiving. Last year, my coworker gained ten pounds and was sure he'd won. But a cousin gained twelve. They decided then that maybe it would be a good idea to discontinue competitive thanksgivings in the future.
Reinhard
If every day is a feast day, of course, then official feast days become monstrous orgies, feasts of feasts (literally so, in the case below). Here are two thanksgiving horror stories that were related to me by coworkers:
1) One coworker doesn't like thanksgiving because he and his wife are the only non-obese people in his family, who eat not one, but two thanksgiving meals. The first an Italian thanksgiving (lasagna, etc), then a few hours later, a full "American" one (turkey, etc.). He feels disgusted at this spectacle and like he's condoning their excess just by being there.
2) Another coworker's family used to compete on thanksgiving. Everyone would weigh themselves before and after the meal. Who ever gained the most "won" thanksgiving. Last year, my coworker gained ten pounds and was sure he'd won. But a cousin gained twelve. They decided then that maybe it would be a good idea to discontinue competitive thanksgivings in the future.
Reinhard
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DebHi Reinhard, I think we may be saying similar things, from a different perspective.
Feast days are, by definition, exceptional or out of the ordinary. When, as you say, every day is a feast day, it indicates at the very least a society that is out of balance.
To clarify my hastily-written point above, it is the very fact that we don't differentiate much, and that sloth and gluttony have become a cultural norm, that is the problem.
Feast days are, by definition, exceptional or out of the ordinary. When, as you say, every day is a feast day, it indicates at the very least a society that is out of balance.
To clarify my hastily-written point above, it is the very fact that we don't differentiate much, and that sloth and gluttony have become a cultural norm, that is the problem.
JWL[.|@]Freakwitch[.]net
Contrarian
Hey, I hope I didn't offend FW. I was just being contrary.
You know, I do think a day full of food and football is a good one. I do like eating a big meal and watching the tube (sort of a modern day camp fire if you use it right). I like arguing with my brother in law (a - gasp - Dallas fan) and my other brother in law (a sensible, if misguided Giants fan). It's fun.
But I also understand that in this land of plenty, many demand plenty in excess. And that's sad. All the more sad if they aren't thankful for it, and don't realize that they have this plenty by the grace of God (substitute fate or luck if you wish, I don't take offense) and not through their own hands. That ingratefulness is an aspect of this society that I do find offensive.
You know, I do think a day full of food and football is a good one. I do like eating a big meal and watching the tube (sort of a modern day camp fire if you use it right). I like arguing with my brother in law (a - gasp - Dallas fan) and my other brother in law (a sensible, if misguided Giants fan). It's fun.
But I also understand that in this land of plenty, many demand plenty in excess. And that's sad. All the more sad if they aren't thankful for it, and don't realize that they have this plenty by the grace of God (substitute fate or luck if you wish, I don't take offense) and not through their own hands. That ingratefulness is an aspect of this society that I do find offensive.
Kevin
1/13/2011-189# :: 4/21/2011-177# :: Goal-165#
"Respecting the 4th S: sometimes."
1/13/2011-189# :: 4/21/2011-177# :: Goal-165#
"Respecting the 4th S: sometimes."
No offense whatsoever, Kevin or anyone else. You'll have to try much harder than that if you want to offend me. 
I agree a day of football is fun, but for my money every minute spent watching it on TV should be spent actually playing it outdoors. Double the minutes if you are a Dallas fan.... heh
We are a vicarious nation when it comes to sports.... most people would rather watch/listen to the game than go play it.
James, who grew up in Cincinnati and is thrilled to see the Bengals resurgence... Marvin Lewis for President!
I agree a day of football is fun, but for my money every minute spent watching it on TV should be spent actually playing it outdoors. Double the minutes if you are a Dallas fan.... heh
We are a vicarious nation when it comes to sports.... most people would rather watch/listen to the game than go play it.
James, who grew up in Cincinnati and is thrilled to see the Bengals resurgence... Marvin Lewis for President!
JWL[.|@]Freakwitch[.]net
Marvin Lewis
Yet another excellent coach that the Skins let get away while they went for flash. Sigh.
Kevin
1/13/2011-189# :: 4/21/2011-177# :: Goal-165#
"Respecting the 4th S: sometimes."
1/13/2011-189# :: 4/21/2011-177# :: Goal-165#
"Respecting the 4th S: sometimes."